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Are Blizzard loosing grip on the games market? >RTS is dead
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Are Blizzard loosing grip on the games market?

>RTS is dead
>WoW is dead
>Hearthstone is p2w
>Diablo 3 ruined the series
>Heroes of the Storm is a ghost town
>Overwatch will be forgotten in 6 months
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>WoW is the most popular MMO in the world
>Hearthstone is one of the biggest E-Sports and highest viewed on Twitch
>Diablo 3 broke sales records
>Heroes of the Storm revolutionized the MOBA genre
>Overwatch will be the best PC Exclusive of the year


Dunno how you can deny this, Must be a nostalgiafag or valvecuck. Sucks to suck senpai
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>>334927514
WoW is still the most popular subscription MMO on the market, Hearthstone is making an offensive amount of money, and Diablo 3 is fantastic now. Fuck off.
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>>334927880
Nice bait fampai
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hearthstone isn't necessarily p2w and should honestly be played at a casual rate
overwatch will enjoy vanilla tf2 success for a while
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>>334927514
>blizzard haters
I agree on Diablo 3 and Hearthstone but jesus christ, why don't you blizzhaters just stop it? You're worse than blizzdrones.
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>>334927880

Overwatch, believe it or not, is multiplat
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>>334927514
>Are Blizzard loosing grip on the games market?
Absolutely.

I thought they where gonna die after Wow subs dipped but they are still going.

>MFW the movie is going to be terrible.
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>>334927514
>Are Blizzard loosing grip on the games market?

More like tightening it.
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>Diablo 2 ruined the series*
ftfy

Diablo 3 was actually a return to the source
Only casuals who never played diablo 1 hates it
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>>334927880

Eh, not sure if you've been playing either game, but both D3 and HotS are pretty much dead in terms of people actually playing them. Yes, D3 broke record sales numbers, but that was with pre-orders and the like. Once people actually found out what kind of game it had been turned into, the game died after about 3 months.

HotS is currently at its record low number of players, and the numbers have been steadily declining over the last few months.

I don't know anything about Hearthstone, but all my friends, I'm talking the hardcore ones that dropped $100+ into it, have given up on it since its latest expansion, and even THEY are calling it pay to win trash now.

The MMO genre itself as a whole is dying, and WoW right along with it. WoW might have the highest numbers, but those numbers are at an all time record low since Warorc of Orcraft pretty much wrecked the game in more ways than one. Legion is also being developed by Jay Wilson, the same person who wrecked D3. That expansion is likely going to be the final nail in the coffin if what he did to D3 is any indication.

I haven't been following Overwatch, so admittedly, that could bring Blizzard back, but who knows. Ever since Activision took control of Blizzard, that company LOST all of its good talent. They are not a good company any more, IMO.

>prepares for fanboy backlash
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>>334928090

H A T E
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>>334927514
The main problem is Blizzard is poisoning the well with shitty yet successful products and support.
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>>334928431

Baito kai
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>>334928460
>HotS is currently at its record low number of players

Are Blizzard releasing player numbers? Genuinely curious.
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>>334927514
>RTS was dead before Blizzard touched it
>WoW is still the #1 MMO with its only competition having a GCD longer than a Content Drought in WoW
>Hearthstone is still the #1 Esports Game and constantly top 5 on Twitch
>Diablo 3: RoS was a brilliant return to form that saved the series
>Heroes of the Storm is literally the only good Moba
>Overwatch already breaking sales records on the PC

Very dead.
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>>334927514
They're monopolizing.
John Titor told me that in 2026 all videogames will be property of Blizzard.
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>>334927514
>RTS is dead
for now
>WoW is dead
not true
>Hearthstone is p2w
untrue
>Diablo 3 ruined the series
d3 is the best diablo out right now
>Heroes of the Storm is a ghost town
not true, again
>Overwatch will be forgotten in 6 months
>implying you can predict the future
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>>334927514
>RTS is dead
The genre is dead. Killed by MOBAs
>WoW is dead
It's not. Very successful still.
>Hearthstone is p2w
It was casual shit from the start. MTG is p2w as well.
>Diablo 3 ruined the series
It was pretty good but people are into ARPGs anymore.
>Heroes of the Storm is a ghost town
Yeah, this was a failure.
>Overwatch will be forgotten in 6 months
We'll see. It's got a low skill cap and plays a lot like a MOBA. Casuals love these team based games because people can't absolutely shit on them, they get a bunch of free 'I win' buttons that hard counter other characters, no skill required.
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>>334928460
D3 sold 12 million in 2012. the last numbers given were 30 million in August 2015.

i don't like the game much but arguing it's been a failure (financially) or that the sales were completely frontloaded is simply incorrect. casuals adore it.
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>>334928820
>John fucking titor

tell me moar
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>>334928736
>RTS was dead before Blizzard touched it
SC2 was very much alive during WoL and most of HOTS. LOTV literally killed it.
Heroes is complete trash, literally even more casual than LoL(that's a fucking achievement).
>heartstone
>pay2win cardgames
Nope, fuck that.

Dunno about Overwatch, might turn out to be cool.
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>RTS is dead
So bad infact that starcraft2 has gotten twice the amount of expansions that starcraft1 did
>WoW is dead
Legion says otherwise
>Hearthstone is p2w
how does translate into bad finance? hearthstone is THE mobile super giant right now.
>Diablo 3 ruined the series
who cares games is alive and got an expansion
>Heroes of the Storm is a ghost town
you don't make tv commercials for ghost towns
>Overwatch will be forgotten in 6 months
hopefully, but we all know it won't happen.

Blizzard has finally reached it's final form and embraces the casual market, everything they lay their fingers on turns into mainstream goldmines. All their games are juggernauts taking huge portions of the genre audience and you will be directly competing with them if you are developing in their field and so far how many have succeeded? Path of exile is all I can think of.

Not even a blizzdrone infact I have played less than five games from them. I just know a succesful dev when I see one.

What's next, OP? Sony dropping out of console market? Devolver Digital having competition on the indie market? Treyarch quitting the CoD franchise?
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>>334927880
Good bait familia
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>>334927514
nah they have a stranglehold on the casual audience.
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>>334927514
>RTS is dead
True
>WoW is dead
True
>Hearthstone is p2w
No
>Diablo 3 ruined the series
No but dead
>Heroes of the Storm is a ghost town
True
>Overwatch will be forgotten in 6 months
True
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>WoW is dead

As much as everyone would like to believe this, theyv'e still got a more subscribers than any other MMORPG.
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>>334927880
your last two greetext aren't set in reality.
keybored blizz warrior go back to sleep.
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You can hate Blizzard all you want, but they are still printing money.
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>>334929406
>SC2 was very much alive during WoL and most of HOTS. LOTV literally killed it.
That's actually wrong
The decline started at the end of wol/early hots by the time lotv was released the game was already dead and everybody had already jumped ship to hearthstone/mobas/cs go
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>>334927514
>Overwatch will be forgotten in 6 months

I hope not I just bought origins
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>>334930401
Bloodlord/Infestor almost killed it.
Then HOTS came, with mines and swarom host shittery and almost killed it again.
Then LOTV happened. LOTV is basically Blizzard literally taking the 'gook clicking simulator' meme and turning it into reality.
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>any time someone makes a blizz shitpost they always say nothing relevant about OW or say some really stupid shit like it will die or something

Face it, OW is handing you anti blizzdrones who are mad about Nost the biggest L you've ever taken in your life. You're so mad you're saying a Blizzard game is going to die. L O L
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>>334928460
yea man they lost talent like Mark "literally spends millions of $ on a BUS and can't pay employees, also vanilla WoW took SKILL" Kern, who Nostfags are championing as some kind of WoW design god or something
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The d3 expansion actually fixed a lot of things wrong.
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>WoW is dead meme

the worst of memes
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Yes

They just don't build worlds anymore.

Diablo 2, Starcraft And World of Shitcraft were immersive as fuck. Even WoW for some people (not me I always thought it was stupid)

But Diablo 3 is WoW lite now, and looks like shit, SC2 is a fanwank anime and WoW is a giant dungeon Queue wait. Heroes of the Storm suffers of this because all the characters are from these failed revivals and not from the classic Blizzard that build the fanbase. The game is fun but shallow. And Overwatch is generating less and less hype each week for some reason I don't know.

But the worst thing they truly did was Diablo 3 in its entirety. Holy shit there's so little redeeming about it.
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>>334930873
my second favorite blizz hatebot meme, second to "Overwatch will die nobody wants to pay for videogames anymore"
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>>334930873
> when the WoW is dead meme is dead
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>>334930590
"the gook clicking simulator" was there from day 1
It was called "mechanics" before the autists on /v/ decided to brand it gookclick
The game died during early Hots because blizzard didn't give a single fuck and had given the game zero support
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>>334927880
D3 sold well purely on D2's back. It's the main reason "fuck that loser" flusters my fanny so much
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>>334928431

I actually can agree with this. I load up D1 more than I do D2 anymore. D2 had a really silly atmosphere. I really enjoyed D3 return to just hellish environments.
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>>334930976
Yeah direct counter this argument is hots which flopped dead within 6month even though it was f2p
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>>334927514
>RTS is dead
And they tried to bring it back
>WoW is dead
He says for the 25185648 time sense WOTLK
>Hearthstone is p2w
Yes and?
>Diablo 3 ruined the series
They tried to fix it
>Heroes of the Storm is a ghost town
Hard competition
>Overwatch will be forgotten in 6 months
We shall see
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>>334927880
D3 sold a lot because a lot of people expected d2

Not many people bought RoS because the original d3 was so shit

I never heard the expansion sold so well
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It doesnt matter when Overwatch gets forgotten, its a one time buy game.

Same with Diablo and whatever. As long as they get those early sales they make the big cash.
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>>334927514

This entire post, Nostraluscuck suicide letter.

Outside of WoW Blizzard is fucking killing it everywhere. When 2.4 patch for Diablo 3 came out most other ARPGs just gave up. Hearthstone is ridiculously successful, don't know much about HotS as I loathe DOTA type games. SC2 is pretty much a religion in Asia so that will never stop being successful.

I can't wait to chug your tears when Blizz announces p2p private vanilla servers.
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>have active wow account because I'm a giant faggot
>get booted to the server list a coupl weeks back
>low
>low
>low
...
>finally like 3 high and 2 full
Bittersweet kek
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>>334931191
>flopped in 6 months
>is at its biggest point now
>was released just short of a year ago

nah
>>334931332
they won't even cry about it, they'll take everything back and sub like the cucks they are
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>>334931416
>at the biggest point

>Twitch viewership lower than that of smite or destiny

>quick match queue takes 10 min

>balance is so shitty no one plays hero league seriously

>global servers like korean or chinese are already dead, can't get a single queue for 50 min

Do tell more kid
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>>334931332
>SC2 is pretty much a religion in Asia so that will never stop being successful.
no it isn't idiot
Every korean either went back to sc1 or started playing lol
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>>334931410
>blizz will never consolidate their servers into some superserver system
>>334931650
>despite all of this(most of it isn't true btw) they're still making money hand over fist

not like it matters?
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How are people even making the argument that HS is the #1 esport? Your best players regularly play tournaments with less than $100k USD payouts. That's laughable compared to Dota or League.

The only area Hearthstone is a "#1 esport" is that it has a lot of twitch viewers, which means absolutely nothing because it's also the most heavily viewbotted game on twitch.

Watch a big Dota 2 or League tournament and then come back and tell me HS is a real esport. You have casual meetups with cash prizes, not tournaments.

Also, the game is P2W.
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>>334931728

>gooks can't into new content and decide to play the same shit over and over again.

Why am I not surprised.
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>>334931789
>Watch a big Dota 2 or League tournament and then come back and tell me HS is a real esport.
Sure I can, the same way I can tell you that poker is treated like a real sport.
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>>334931789
Its bait don't fall for it friendo
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>>334929454
>Legion says otherwise
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>Overwatch will be forgotten in 6 months
What makes you think that bullshit?
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>RTS is dead
Yes.

>WoW is dead
Dying, but not dead. We'll see how the movie effects it.

>Hearthstone is p2w
With the introduction of standard, not really. Also it's a huge cash cow for Blizz.

>Heroes of the Storm is a ghost town
Has a nieche little community. Not a cash cow, but still profitable.

>Overwatch will be forgotten in 6 months
On Consoles, yes. On PC, its gonna be EPURTS CENTRAL and likely another financial pillar.
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>>334927514
>all these things are fale
>thread still reaches this many responses
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>>334932053
it's a shit game outclassed by tf2 in every single way
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>>334932254
TF2 is dead.
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>>334931410
JUST
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>>334932053
they're dumb, really really dumb

people were already getting sponsored teams months ago when it was closed beta only, they had millions of people(not even counting multiple accounts) register to be in the beta, millions of preorders, etc

>>334932119
The movie probably doesn't help them much unless they're getting a big cut of the movie money(which will, unfortunately, be huge)
>>334932254
L O L
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>>334928069
No, it's waste-your-time-to-win if you don't wanna pay, especially if you have bad RNG.
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>>334927880
This. Why do people keep underestimating blizzard? Diablo 3 alone made it it to top 10 Vidya sales.
> overwatch dead within 6months
How? It's easy as fuck to pick up and play and has enough depth to keep people interested.
>hearthstone
One of the most popular games and it prints money.

One of Blizzards strength is marketing and how they make games that everyone can just pick up and play. People keep shitting on d3 but 30 million + autist bought the game.

You cannot underestimate the blizzard community. They have been here for a long time supporting the company and will buy whatever blizz shits out. You can't underestimate the power of autism
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>blizzard hate threads are now a meme
I'd love to see the 180 /v/ pulls if Blizzard announces legacy servers. This place is going to turn into blizzard ass kissing board.
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>>334932367
nice meme

>>334932427
>L O L
i'm not wrong
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>>334932537
Also stsrcraft legacy of the void sold like 2 million on the same release time frame as fallout 4. A fucking strategy game
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>RTS is dead
The marked plummeted after casual players found RTS light version (DotA2, LoL, etc)
>WoW is dead
WoW is not doing as well as before but it is far from dead
>Hearthstone is p2w
Every TGC is pay to win. Also this game costs almost nothing to develope. They even recycle and crop images for cards. This is by far Blizzard's best movement in years.
>Diablo 3 ruined the series
Definetly
>Heroes of the Storm is a ghost town
Not doing as well as LoL =/= dead
>Overwatch will be forgotten in 6 months
Nah they are doing exactly what Valve did with DotA, but Blizzard does it with TF2.

Yes, Blizzard is no longer leading the market. But then again, is there a single company that is doing well, and you can trust that their next release is a master piece?
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>>334932660
>implying blizzard hate threads are new
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>>334932680
>still holding on to the corpse of TF2

Anon..you just got to let it go..

It had a good life; it lasted longer than most.

But you have to bury it sometime.
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>>334932680
tf2 fun but competitively is a fucking joke and your iron opinion isn't going to sway me otherwise
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>>334927514
>are blizzard
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>>334932830
>implying they haven't took off and tripled within the last few days
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>>334932680
>This new game is shit, play that other game that you played for the last 10 years!
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU GOT BORED OF IT? PERFECTION IS NEVER BORING!
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>>334927514
I just want Warcraft 4 :/
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>>334932967
>implying most people aren't just waiting for an excuse to shit on the disgrace that is blizzard
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>>334932380
Just what?
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>>334932775
And LotV has gotten shit for the stupid ass story and the MP being even more dead than usual.
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>>334933039
They'll probably fuck it up again
Hero units were a mistake
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>>334933119
That's not the point. The game still sold a shitload of copies like every other game with a blizzard name attached to it
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>>334932254

>it's a shit game outclassed by tf2 in every single way

Holy shit.....is this what steamfags truly believe? No wonder their games are always such overhyped garbage.
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>>334933039
Real talk, why there is no some indie kickstarter for "Warcraft" style RTS. It would be funded in 3 minutes.
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>>334932775
That number is fucking inflated because internet cafes in korea or china would buy sc2 in bulk

Only 1 out of 50 of their customers might play the game, but they just get the game installed anyways

One cafe might buy 30-60 copies single handedly so that number is fucking unreliable
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>>334932660
I'm more amused by the Stockholm syndrome cucks that are begging for legacy servers after the company spat in their faces and responded with ridiculous statements such as "You think you do, but you don't". And they still are begging them for an opportunity to give them money. Nowhere else would this shit fly. Cinema, music, car sales, nowhere else. Only in videogame industry can you shit all over your fanbase and they will still beg you to let them shower you with freedom coupons.
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>>334932872
I'm not holding onto anything, the game is still very much alive.

>>334932886
>tf2 fun but competitively is a fucking joke
so is overwatch, minus the fun part

>>334932993
how you personally feel about the games is irrelevant, tf2 is still alive and objectively way way better
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They're making bank, so no. I mean if we want to talk about losing your grip, we can look at Nintendo.
>That new Star Fox game
It's like they don't give a fuck.
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>Hearthstone expansion on the 26th
>Overwatch Beta on the 3rd
>Overwatch release on the 24th

So /v/ is gonna be non-stop blizzposting for the next couple months. Joy.
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>>334933315
>Shitloads
That explains why so many people bought HotS and LotV.

WoL sold, so did D3.

HotS, LotV, RoS sold 1-3 million copies in the same timeframe.
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>>334927941
>WoW is still the most popular subscription MMO on the market

Ignore the fact they lost 10mill subs since FT

>Diablo 3 is fantastic now
>Diablo 3
>fantasic

Still no open trading POE stole most of there players and POE is shit.
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How does it feel when legion will sell more copies than your favourite game?
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>>334933425
>Apple

>"Give us more cuckholded version of mac so we can pay more"

Blizshills and macfags sound so much like cult
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>>334932798
>Nah they are doing exactly what Valve did with DotA, but Blizzard does it with TF2.
Take a long-standing, massively rising competitive game that was rejected from the other company because they're money-hungry dipshits and cater it as much as possible to the competitive market to the point of overtaking the national sport of south korea?

I mean, 21 tick alone should be proof enough blizzard don't give a fuck about the game in a competitive setting.
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>>334933586
They pretty much are
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>>334927514
Hearthstone is actually the only highly successful online TCG.

Sure, sc2 is only attractive to very hardcore fans
Sure, WoW has been played by literally everyone who wants to by now. It's running dry but is still the most polished MMO on the market.

D3 did ruin the series. It was fun as a first playthrough but they did so many things wrong that I simply wasn't interested after that.

I really dislike Heroes of the Storm's gameplay. Everything feels like a 5man zerg. Rather than farming objectives and playing your opponent in lane, you can just roam around as a huge ball and destroy solo/duo players with little recourse. The heroes are not fun to play and few of their skills feel highly impactful. Mana limits are nonexistant, you can spam skills very frequently with the nearby fountain in every lane. Lack of item and gold rewards leads to lack of character customization and bland gameplay.

Overwatch is just TF3. When I played in beta, it wasn't very fun. Some maps are highly unbalanced, with Defense respawning on top of the final point, offense having to expose to a huge number of angles, etc. Worst of all, most heroes aren't fun or compelling. There are maybe 1 or 2 that I actually enjoyed playing - Tracer feels like she has a ton of potential.
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>>334933519
Protip: dont click those post
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>>334933334

It would be fucked with a cease and desist letter within an hour after it's funded.
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>>334933629
tickrate is a meme it literally doesn't matter
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>>334933334
Because making a good multiplayer rts is way over the capabilities of indie devs, as it was proven by planetary annihilation.
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>>334933039
It's coming in 2020, anon. Don't die yet.
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>>334933495
TF2 has more maps, that is the only thing that TF2 has going for it.

>inb4 weapons
60% of them are never used unless you played it for 1 day. The rest is basically the same as in Overwatch, with the exception that OW has things from Dota, CoD and others too.
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>>334932798
>Every TGC is pay to win. Also this game costs almost nothing to develope. They even recycle and crop images for cards. This is by far Blizzard's
>always knew there was WoW TCG
>decide to check out the boxes in my lgs
>turns out hearthstone not only copies the images, but most cards are just a dumbed-down version of themselves from the tcg.
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>>334927514
>RTS is dead
True, they fucked up the E-sport scene
>WoW is dead
It's dying, it's still gonna sell milions when the next expansion hits the market
>Diablo 3 ruined the series
I wouldn't go that far but it was prett shit
>Heroes of the Storm is a ghost town
I think it has a pretty solid playerbasr that spends enough cash on the skins and heroes to make blizzard get their money back
>Overwatch will be forgotten in 6 months
No it won't, Blizzard's marketing team is doing an amazing job with that game and the hype is crazy. I went to Gamescom last year, the biggest gueue was for Overwatch, you had to wait for atleast 3 hours to play it. At the event they sold collectable figures of the different characters, they were sold out within a few hours. Overwatch will be a big thing.
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>>334933425
You ever see Nintendo fans posts?
They will get on their knees and ask for seconds for anything Nintendo shits out its ass.
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>>334933715
DELUSIONAL
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>>334933334
Kekstarters don't have jew lawyers to fight blizzord
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>>334933629
21 tick client side, not server.

Basically, if you have shit internet you'll have a shit time. That same concept applies to literally every online game ever. And they made it so that tournament games will allow you to set the tick to 80.
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>>334933707
>blizzard invented fantasy settings in rts
Literally just change the characters name and it would be fine
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>>334927514
Counter point: None of these things are true.
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>>334933781
>The rest is basically the same as in Overwatch
You've never played either game before. Keep shilling for nickels though.
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>>334927514
I hope they crash.
Ever since the blanda up with actijews they have been shit.
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>>334927514
Yes
I'd go so far as to say MMO's as they appeal to the mainstream market are dead.
Most cardgames are pay 2 win, that isn't anything new.
Sure
Why wouldn't it be?
I can't even imagine anyone selling an arena shooter considering I feel the genre itself as Free 2 Play.
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Blizzard doesnt make good games or games for that matter anymore.
Just let them die.
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>>334933813
>No it won't, Blizzard's marketing team is doing an amazing job
Yea we're currently experiencing it right now.
Fuck off you stupid shills
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>>334934056
You mispelt Valve
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I like how everyone shitposting about D3 act like RoS and patch 2.4 didn't fix everything that was wrong with D3.

I've put hundred of hours into D2: LoD and I'm enjoying the current build of D3 just as much. Outside of not having trading and offline more for PC version. I'm happy with what Blizz has done with D3 post Jay 'Fuck that loser' Wilson.

Warcraft on the other hand is a fucking shitfest. Legion isn't looking any better either. DH is all style and no substance, the pruning is unreal and garrison missions are a huge thing again. It's like Blizzard is intentionally killing WoW.
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>>334934110
Valve doesn't makes any game period
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>>334933942
>lel you never played it.

Go on, please do tell me which weapon from TF2 is NOT available in OW in some form.
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>>334933931

No it wouldn't.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/blizzard-sues-over-hearthstone-ripoff-as-open-beta-goes-live/1100-6417255/

Pardon the Gamespot link.
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>I think it has a pretty solid playerbasr that spends enough cash on the skins and heroes to make blizzard get their money back

Thing is that only na server is currently active enough to even queue a game. Rest of the world, the game takes 600-1000 sec queue to get a single game

And they spent millions and millions doing advertisement for various countries beside us so I really don't think they are getting much money back

Plus bliz is forcing 'esport' tourney for a game that gets less viewer than fifa 15 and wasting money for the prize pool, so yeah again, not getting much money back
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>>334933495
except overwatch is much more strategic and focused than TF2

also yea the opposite of TF2 competitive "fun"
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>>334934065
>if smeone speaks positively about a game I don't like they are a shill
You can't fucking deny that they are doing a good job, the hype outside of this shithole is pretty crazy, even here on /v/ there were plenty of threads during the weekend beta.
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>>334934153
I'm pretty sure that was my point
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>>334927880
>> HOTS
Worst and least popular moba
>> Diablo 3 ROS
So unpopular that blizzard had to give copies of vanilla d3 away in China for free and include them as ROS sales. Worse than d3 vanilla
>>WoW
Is dying because blizzard is hiring the failed Diablo devs and the amount of content being delivered is a joke. The game isn't dying because of how many fuccbois like you there are shilling.
>> Hearthstone
Pretty good for a card game, really the only success story as of late
>> SC2

Never played it, herd it sucked
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>>334934246

holy fuck....talk about time wasted. How can you even put more than a hundred hours into that pile of shit game.
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>>334934149
D3 pre patch and D3 post patch is a huge difference. Truly demonstrates how shit D3 was at launch, but thank god they fixed that.
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>>334934246
every heal beam that isn't the default
hitscan pistol
every thrown item
every melee weapon
every bat item
every spy item aside from default revolver
every heavy weapon(lmao no the fucking minigun is not in OW, stop being a sperg)

and so many more
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>>334934246
hurr durr tf2 has monopoly on guns
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>>334934149
>Even had the problem to begin with

Fixing fucking god awful trash only makes barely playable game, doesn't make it a great game

Jay Wilson fucked up so good it took 3 years to just clean his mess and the game is just meh at 2.4, can't play this game for more than 2 weeks
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>>334928902
They gave away 20 million copies in China and counted them as sales
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>>334934534
That's not how it works. Sorry.
>>
Reminder that if you buy Overwatch you are supporting criminals and are just as bad as WoWcucks.
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>>334934265
But that's an actual rip off
All you'd have to do was change the names and units a bit and there would be literally nothing they could do
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>Are Blizzard loosing grip on the games market?
No they lost quality control and became more of a business than a games developer.
Whether you like it or not Hearthstone is extremely profitable and popular
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>>334934632
Feels good to support criminals.
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>>334934632
>criminals
please explain
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>>334934632
Tell me one good reason not to support criminals?
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>>334934514

>the game is just meh at 2.4, can't play this game for more than 2 weeks

That's kind of the point with seasons. They know people will leave after 2-3 weeks. So we get new season every 3 months or so. Each new season revamps old sets and adds a few new things. Not exactly ground breaking but a crafty way to get people to come back and play a game that is nothing more than loot hoarding.

It's pretty hard to make a ARPG stay addicting over long periods of time. After a while you get to the point where you are just min-maxing and upgrades are nothing more than .1% extra dps/surv. So yeah, they have done pretty well at keeping people interested in D3 after only one expansion in the 5 years (?) it's been out.
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>>334927514
>loosing

Kill yourself
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>>334934632
i vote for trump bro im already cool with that
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>>334934681
>>334934702
>>334934739
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/128252-a-short-history-of-activision-blizzard-or-how
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>>334934632
>nostfags
You'll never play your Vanilla cancer servers ever again faggot.
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>>334934674

They did change the names and units. Just re-used some of the skins. They also made a fucking Warcraft themepark lel. Chinks don't give a shit.
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>>334934632
Over watch sucks dick anyway.
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>>334931332
>>Diablo 3 is killing it
People play for like 1 week and quit, and less people play seasons then POE
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>>334934832
Feels great man.

>>334934835
lmao did you see that petition
it's taken so long to just get 200k signatures.
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>>334934832
im not gonna read all that shit but thanks for your reply
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>>334934887

>he didn't get into the beta.
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>>334934925
Meanwhile I saw one for saving starving children at for 4 weeks..50k, lol.
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>nost babies still this upset
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>>334934925
>200k signatures worth nothing
>Blizzard will just laugh and use them as toilet paper
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>>334935014
I did and hated it. CoD and halo is a much better fps.
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>>334934596
Thats how it happened honey

They don't announce the sales number for gaming nerds like you to take it as hard facts

They announce it to trick shareholders and investors who do not really care about silly vidya
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>>334935056
if there is a petition more pointless than legacy servers it's saving starving children
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>>334935145
That had me keking
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>>334934317
>except overwatch is much more strategic and focused than TF2
you shills are fucking hilarious, keep going
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>>334935145
>CoD
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>>334935056
lmao

>>334935124
If they really wanted to make a dent, they should have aimed for at least half a million. At least that's a hefty revenue stream added. I mean really, if there was actually that big of a demand for it, reaching 500k should be easy.

>>334935156
No sorry, that's just not how it works. I feel bad that you bought into some retarded rumor sweetie.
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So how long from Blizzard announcing legacy servers at Blizzcon will they be released?

Will they be static, go through patches, or go through expansions?
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>>334934471
>every heal beam that isn't the default
Mercy has Kritzkrieg type dmg boost, Zenyatta has AOE Uber, Lucio has AOE Quick Fix, No vacc, unless you count Shields as a resistance bonus.
>hitscan pistol
McRee.
>every thrown item
+1 for you, there are debuffers in OW tho.
>every melee weapon
Which one? every character has melee in OW.
>every bat item
McRee has Sandman stun
Zenyatta can debuff
No triple jump +1 for you
every spy item aside from default revolver
McRee has Ambassador (unless they nerfed him)
every heavy weapon(lmao no the fucking minigun is not in OW, stop being a sperg)
Diva Mech is literally default minigun.

So yeah, unless you want to be a spy (you can be Reaper which has the same role, but is not the same), there is a chance that there is a hero in OW that you will like.
>>
BLIZZFAGS ACTUALLY BELIEVE IF A GENRE IS NOT AMONG BLIZZ'S LIBRARY THEN IT MUST SUCK
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>>334935272
lamo if you really think tf2, the comp game where you either only push with picks or a med is more strategic than overwatch

keep at that iron rank though
>>334935436
kritzkrieg=/=constant flat damage boost beam

there is no accuracy or damage ramping on d.va minigun, it also has infinite ammo and no spinup and does shit for damage, if that's just like heavy minigun you might as well say the beam weapons are too
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>>334935560
Name one good game that wasn't made by Blizzard.
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>Overwatch is super strategic and hardcore goys!
>P-preorder it now!
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>>334935145
Responses like these are why I come into these shitty threads
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>>334935560
Here's your (You)
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>>334935395
Blizzard is going open legacy severs right, and you can play them all but you can copy your character over right, so when you've played vanilla and want to move on you can copy to a bc realm, right, and so on, but the catch is... each copy over is $30
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hello im here from BlizzPhone, sorry blizzard we did not change the name yet

we are proud to soon be the #1 cell phone ipad pay to win colors flash on the screen retard make big smile app maker in theworld!!

if you dont like it, you'll like it

the future is now
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>>334935659
Diablo 1
Diablo 2
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>>334935659
I have it here, the (you)
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>>334935665
>memes
>>
All I know for certain is that Bobby Kotick was always right.
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>>334935698
Anon, i see this is bait and youre autistic but i could see them doing that
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>>334936000
>>334935698

Why?

Blizzard can charge whatever they want, and implement them however they want.

The public reaction will be universally positive, even if they jew it to the maximum they will get no backlash for it.
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>>334936116
Because anons thinking they know how huge million dollar corporations make decisions is laughable.
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>>334936116
This is what you think, Blizzard developer. You will lose your job soon.
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>>334935628
>there is no accuracy or damage ramping on d.va minigun, it also has infinite ammaccuracy or damage rampingo and no spinup and does shit for damage, if that's just like heavy minigun you might as well say the beam weapons are too

Yes, if you're going into damage ramping, accuracy falloff etc. then yeah, it's not the same.

90% of people that will play overwatch will see "Constant stream of bullets in a wide cone, wow that's like Heavy from TF2 I'll play that"
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>>334935213
woah calm down edgelord
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>>334936428
i dont mean it in an edgy way, I mean it's aboslutely pointless to make an online petition for starving children when you can donate such a small amount of $ to help directly, or play Freerice
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>>334936331
I don't understand why anybody would want to play the heavy from TF2 desu
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>All these shitposters complaining about games they don't even play.
>Meanwhile I'll be fapping to Mercy's thighs and hips.

wew
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>>334936742
is there anything worse than waifufags
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>>334936884
Who said shes mai waifu? She just has nice thighs and hips.
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>>334936884
Yes, shitposters like you
Now go suck Valve's dick and never browse /v/ again.
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>>334936884
Mostly because the rest of the game is so shallow and boring the only thing to do is masturbate over pretty character models.

ie: Fallout4, Skyrim, VNs, League
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>>334937048
>he says this as he has blizzard's dick 9 inches up his ass
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>>334927514
At least blizz was smart enough to not release a warcraft 4 and only hand out the models in an starcraft update for people that actually care for the game to create their own version. It's the best for the series if they don't touch it anymore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rr1GpV2rCg
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>>334937228
>implying I ever payed for a fucking Blizzard game
You're fucking delusional, little shittylord. I only pirated WC3 and never touched another Blizzard game, but since you're a faggot I might also start buying them, so that Blizzard can anal fuck your dear, lowclass Valve and her cancerous platform called Steam. And Steam is will come from the tears you'll drop in the fucking desert because you'll be poor as fuck since Valve will betray you and close your Steam account and steal all your games.
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>>334937228

>valve cuck reposting the same shit meme as he's bent over his desk typing on his laptop while Gaben is mounting his tight little boipussy.
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nice game
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>>334937858
>Invisible
>He still shows in Who
He lost a lot of points there
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>he prepurchased Legion
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>>334927880
(you)
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>>334937858

>Tanaan Jungle dead

Anon, WoW is currently dead as fuck. Only people playing it are gold farmer on their garrisons.
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>>334937962
>Prepurchase Legion
>Use lvl 100 boost
>Ask for a refund
>Will rebuy Legion once it is released again
>New boost
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>>334937115
Whether or not a game and shallow and boring is entirely up to opinion.
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>>334938054
They won't refund Legion if you used the boost. Get cucked.
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>>334927514
>HS is pay to sin

I've reached legend many times and haven't spend a single dime, I even beat people with legendaries back when I didn't have mine.

Git gud
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is overwatch shit? i dont care abotu the ass pose drama. i just want to know if its a comfy game to play for years like i did with TF2
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>>334938290
Yes they will, I did it. They just lock the character
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>>334938291
> win*
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>>334938032
it's 4am on a weekday, my server is usually pretty populated most of the day
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>>334938312
Yes, it's comfy as fuck.
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>>334938312
>is overwatch shit?
Yes. It's way worse than TF2.
>>
>>334938312
Don't listen to the shitposters. The game is fun if you enjoy team shooters. The best part about the game is the uniqueness of each class.
>>
>all these salty nostcucks

jesus christ take a break alreadyt
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>>334938312
It doesn't matter. It was made by Blizzard so it's automatically shit.
>>
>oh look its another /v/ shits on a major publisher episode over nitpicking
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>>334935665
>>334937228
>>334935272
>>334934832
>>334933873
>>334931986
This is a nostcuck btw. He's in every thread related to nostalrius. Since he can't get his will he spends all his time on /v/ spreading disinfo and FUD
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>>334938808
Stfu blizzshill. your game is shit and dying.
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>>334936742
I love MERCY
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>200,261 supporters
>200,261 supporters
>200,261 SUPPORTERS
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>>334927514
>19bn in revenue
>literal generation of cucks willing to eat shit

They only have two real problems:
>No titles pandering to new generations
>obsolete publisher bottlenecking acclimation of new market concepts

Candy Crush makes more than HS. That will be a problem for them.

Otherwise they are going to have to accept mobile or suffer the fate of Nintendo. The esports fad has 5 years st best.
>>
>>334939134
dunno, it's still pretty alive where I play
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>>334939134
let me know when your petition reaches 5 million signatures
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>>334939261
Oh no! Blizzard is in danger now!
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>>334927514
Highly unlikely senpai
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>>334927514
>RTS is dead
Mostly.
>WoW is dead
It's heading there, and quicker than ever due to WoD.
>Hearthstone is p2w
It's also a shitty game ontop of that.
>Diablo 3 ruined the series
True.
>Heroes of the Storm is a ghost town
Wouldn't know, the gameplay looks like a crappier version of LoL.
>Overwatch will be forgotten in 6 months
Definitely not, the fanbase seems like a bunch of retards.
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>>334927514
When did you first realize you were delusional?
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>>334938112
You can objectively tell if a game is shallow
If it is boring or not is opinion though
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>>334934380
>Worse than d3 vanilla
Are you for real?
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>>334927514
hearthstone makes a stupid amount of money for what it is
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>>334927514
Diablo 3 has been more than fixed.
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>>334927514
>>334927880
>Diablo 3 broke sales records
>Diablo 3 is the 10th best selling game ever, with 30 mill copies

Blizzard keeps making worse and worse game, but keeps getting more and more money. Video game industry is so fucked up.
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>>334939205
DELETE THIS
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>>334927514
Blizzard has a monopoly on the RTS, MMO, Computer CCG market.

Already has established itself king of a genre that is barely born yet (and the only real competitor is TF2).

Diablo 3 is the most popular ARPG by a long shot.

Honestly, Heroes of the Storm is the only place where they really went wrong
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>>334941172
All of my irl friends and myself bought D3 at launch so we could look at countless error messages as we tried in vain to play the game on some server because it's online only. Fun times.
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>>334929406
>LOTV literally killed it.
So wrong.
The game has never been better.
The interest is just not there anymore. Its not a ghost town but the interest is very low in SC2 currently.
There is a chance that SC2 can get resurrected with the big ladder revamp that is planned.
Honestly it is looking bright for SC2 as a game but the following is rather dim at the moment.
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>>334933734
Basically this.

Even old school RTS games wouldn't be able to keep up with the standards there are today when it comes to balance.

To much effort for too little payoff unless you are a big name like Blizzard
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>>334941358
Yeah. SC2 is far from dead.

Mainly, because you need a lower population to sustain a game where the competitive mode is 1v1.

Its obvious the novelty will have worn off after so many years, but there is pretty much nowhere else to turn to if you still want to play RTS games
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>>334927880
>>Heroes of the Storm revolutionized the MOBA genre

I haven't laughed this hard in years, thanks.
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>>334941172
Its just cool to hate whats popular. Let haters hate while people who play games, play games.
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>>334941750

Yeah, I like some Blizz games but that anon is completely off his rocker.

HotS is a giant steaming pile of DOTA shit. Giant waste of resources. Blatant example of Blizz going full jew and trying to take over every popular Esport genre.
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>>334941781
It's even cooler to hate what sucks.
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>>334927514
>Overwatch will be forgotten in 6 months
no, it will continue to gain popularity and players because Valve is saving it, the SFM porn will keep Overwatch popular for years upon years.
>>
Holy shit so many delusional waste of space people in this thread
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>>334944642
Nah I only see one right now
(it's you)
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If you're looking for "innovastun" then you're not gonna find it in AAA game devs.

They only make what most people want which seems to be either sandbox games or chrome-plated hamsterwheels. Blizzard has the latter in abundance.
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>>334931650
just took a quick look and HotS currently has a few thousand more viewers than smite or destiny so I dunno where you pulled that out of but okay
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Why are Blizzard shills so obvious to spot?
>Overwatch has that Blizzard POLISH!

Yeah? So did Diablo 3, HOTS, Starcraft 2 and every goddamn wow expansion since and including Cataclysm.

It means jack shit with this dogheap of a company.
And now we got SJWatch.

Fuck you. Fuck that game and fuck Blizzard for being the Lucifer of PC developers.
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>>334941750
Well it did revolutionize it.

It is a worse game than DoTA2 and LoL and nobody plays it, but there is no other moba that made changes as big
>>
i literally cannot even make words to explain how bad of a company blizzard is, the warcraft movie could easily be the last blizzard product i ever purchase

even if they stopped making ipad card games and poor pay to unlock dota clones i just have no confidence they'd ever make a warcraft 4 and sell it to us for the price wc3 was with the same amount of content and no pay-gates and cash shops
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ros fixed EVERYTHING
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>>334949237
Yeah fixed it but its still meh because the starting point before fix was nightmare shitspawn of hell
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>>334946741
>SJWatch
Zarya is the only one you can say that about, Blizzard said a big fuck you to the SJWs with Tracer and her pose
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