Best souls confirmed.
What went right?
DaS3 IS the best souls, but sells have nothing to do with the game being good
going by that logic, call of duty games and FIFA are the best games in the world
Is is really the best Souls yeah?
I skipped DaS2 but I loved DeS and DaS
>>334905059
tuned out after dark souls.
never understood the appeal.
though bloodborne mite be cool.
>>334905215
DaS2 was made by From's B team. Not a bad game but how they designed and changed it didn't sit well with some fans.
DaS3 is by the original creators and it shows.
Might not be the best place for this, but i need help.
My pc constantly crashes when i try to play das 3.
Right after character creation, or a death, or last time, after i hit contimue in the main menu.
All my drivers are up to date, and my rig should easily handle it, i can play tw 3 at 60 fps.
What the fuck can i do? Reinstall?
>>334908127
It's the fucking light effect. Turn that in low. The rest can remain high, but the lights are fucking buggy.
>>334905059
ayo hol up
who dat cute girl?
>>334908320
>Girl
It's slime monster dude.
>>334908320
Rip in estus.
>>334905215
>I skipped DaS2
You did nothing wrong.
I played all DaS games, also DeS&BB.
And DaSII is the shittiest out the bunch also the ugliest (shit looks worse then DaS/DeS)
>>334905059
>What went right?
normies
E3
Should I get Scholar of the First Sin for 20 bucks for PS4?
>>334908319
Ok thx, tried it, but still when i hit continue, it crashed out, saying your computer is low on memory.
I have 8 gig ddr3 memory
Of course it sold the fastest. Shit's got billboard advertisements in US cities. Souls games hang with the big boys now.
I haven't even played 3 yet, but that's great that it's one of the better ones. I'm happy to see the niche series I had to import from fucking China to even play at all garner so much praise.
>>334905059
compare anor londo to lothric castle
>>334905215
play it, the level design is not as creative but it's amazing story wise, don't listen to memers
It attracted casual, which explains why I'm still seeing bosses, shortcuts, and treasures untouched during an sl 91 invasion against three checking estus addicts
>>334905059
The casuals were lured by legends of "hardcore" gamers
do i buy
y/n
i have a 7870 and never made more than 3 characters between ds1 and ds2
watched a 5hr stream of it by ster and it looks damn good but also some places seem clogged up, like the undead settlement and stuff.
the real thing that has me interested is the better bow mechanics and PVP, which i never got to try in the other games.
if its laggy for people with great internet chances are its going to be unplayable for me (rural australia) so i'd like to know peoples experiences with the online play and their respective connections.
i guess ping is the bigger deal though hey..
>>334905059
>You can't make a character that looks this cute
From why
>>334913024
No, the game is a rehash full of horrible design decisions, don't waste your money.
If by the time they release their ultimate cash grab edition with the 20 dollar patch incorporated they have fixed its problems, then get it
>>334905059
Casuals followed the meme
Pandering to casuals. The game is much easier than previous entries bar one or two bosses and the invasion system is heavily skewed towards casual babies who need 2 friends to hold their hand through the whole game.
>>334905059
Justin Bieber's tickets sell pretty fast too.
Your point?
>>334913082
I was really upset you can't have actual white hair, instead its some shitty grey.
>>334914102
Invasions are fun as fuck if you join Aldrich and invade right after the Pontiff bonfire. You get priority to worlds where there is an invader present.
The most popular game in a series is the worst by default. *tips*
>>334908658
Is it on sale?
>>334905059
I still like Dark Souls 1 more. DS3 reuses too many ideas from BB and Demon's Souls in terms of level design
>>334914102
It's actually the hardest Souls since you can't just roll a cookie cutter. Shields are pretty much useless because of the shield breaking and critical follow-up in PVP and bosses will just fuck your stamina up if you try to block anything
>Get more popular to normies
>Best anything
This just means they will pander more to the common market i.e casual scums
>>334905215
>skips a good game because he listens to people on the Internet who say it's garbage
What are you fucking gay dude? Why would you skip DaS2? Are you actually that gullible? That's like skipping Metal Gear Solid 2. Sure it's not like MGS 1 or MGS3 but fuck me up the ass if it isn't a solid game with great story.
>>334917998
DaS2 is not only a terrible Dark Souls game, it's a terrible game on its own. Like really, I found literally no enjoyment with it, its design is primitive and obnoxious I bet Miyazaki has nightmares about it to this day.
>>334905059
If Gwyndolin hated his feminine side then why was he wearing a lipstick before he died?
>>334905059
I did my part
>>334905215
>I skipped DaS2
You made the right choice.
>>334918132
Oh wow, it was the first Souls game I played before I even knew what Souls was and I liked it a lot. You just don't like because everyone else says it's garbage and you'll constantly have that on your mind everything you think of DS2. Try actually playing a game without any critique and you'll see how enjoyable it really is. If you play games with the mind of a critic then you'll never truly enjoy games ever again.
>>334918132
The disjointed design really does it.
The game feels like a bunch of cool concept art thrown together with no real thought behind logic/progression
>>334918281
>xbone
why tho
I mean, unless you like handegg ESPN integration
>>334905126
>DaS3 IS the best souls
What makes it the best?
>>334918790
Best console this gen imo
It's not the best souls game, it's literally worse than DS2. The only reason it's popular now is because it reached meme status. The series is dead. Only DeS and DaS have any real creative integrity and value, the others are ctrl+c ctrl+v
>>334907757
>it shows
>instant estus recovery
>One snap-in backstab animation like DS1 that takes a fuckload of time to recover from if you miss it
>Invincible while traveling through fog door
>covenants are widely inferior
Also, DLCs of DS2 were on par with previous games in the series, and that was "B-team" as well. Dark Souls 3 PvE content is superior overall, but the player interaction took a step backward in many ways from DS2. To my knowledge, a director swap mid-development of DS2 threw a wrench in the whole thing and we got vanilla DS2 in the end. If the team had built the game up like they did with the DLCs it would have towered over the previous games by a longshot. Oh well.
>>334908863
Turn everything down to low, see if that works.
>>334919091
DS2 was a good game. You only think it was bad because you're a memester yourself.
>>334905215
No, it's significantly worse than DeS, DaS and BB.
Is this game like Dark souls 2? big bosses with big swords ?
or does it actually have more cool bosses?
It's really good. The nameless King Fight is one of the best Boss Fights in the Series and even tho the only new thing it brought was Stances it builds on the previous games instead of actual being worse like DaS II was.Bloodborne is still better tho
Why Gwyndlin become cuter than he was alive?
>>334919556
The biggest boss is a tree. It goes full gank squad on you until you really h the second phase.
Did Aldrich consume more than one god? He only looks like Gwyndolin
>>334919206
Those all sound like pluses, though (minus the covenants)? Harder doesn't equal better. Might want to leave the git gud cult already and realize that from a design standpoint those things are better
>>334913238
>one area in the game calls back to a crucial story important area in the first game
>it's a shameless rehash
Do some people not understand what callbacks are? But then again, if you're complaining about shit kike this pot is the exact same one from DaS, or this boss swings similar to this old boss, than you have WAY too much spare negeativity to throw at what is literally nothing.
I'mve heard sitting on a bag of dried ice solves that problem right away.
>>334918281
you have cute legs anon
>>334905059
There are lots of objects you can roll into and break more than any other souls game.
11/10
>>334905059
What happened Bloodborne bros?
HOW TO FIX THE DOOR CRASH
LIGHTING LOW DID NOT WORK
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>334920181
stop
>>334917998
>Comparing the best MGS game to DrS 2
this guy
>>334914102
I've done DeS and DaS1 SL1 runs and one-tried almost every boss in DaS2 and BB, and I'm still having trouble with some places in DaS3. Where the hell did this "it's the easiest yet" meme come from? Irithyll's enemies alone are harder than most everything in the previous games.
>>334919584
Nice Eva reference, any idea from which episode that is?
>>334918563
>Try actually playing a game without any critique and you'll see how enjoyable it really is. If you play games with the mind of a critic then you'll never truly enjoy games ever again.
>just don't think so much :)))
Fuck off. Not being critical of the shit you imbibe is not a good thing. There are plenty of good games to play that at least survive some scrutiny.
Damn, the fromshills are going full force
>summon two purples at once
>mexican standoff til we all decide we're not getting ganked yet
>tense as hell fights against enemies where everyone's trying not to hit each other
>trying to fight while keeping both purples where I can see them
>I get sidetracked, lose the purples, come back to them dueling on a bridgeI fall off a cliff like an idiot just as one of the purples dies
some of the most fun I've had in a osuls game in a long time
thanks purple bros
>>334919206
>DLCs of DS2 were on par with previous games in the series
I love this meme.
>>334920627
what?
I feel so incredibly sorry for Gwyndolin. All his life he was shat on by everyone but he never stopped trying to make everyone happy. He pretended to be a girl to get dad to love him, and even tried to make the undead happy by giving them hope that even in these dark times the city of the gods still shone as brilliantly as before despite his sister abandoning him, his covenant consisting of only one woman and his dad gone hollow trying to keep the world alive. All that and for what? So he could be THE ONLY GOD to get devoured by a sludge monster.
it is selling well due to pandering to sexual deviants
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz8KJYpRh28
>>334919451
I don't think it's a bad game. I think the DLC is top tier shit.
>>334920487
>listen to me guys I got into the series with das2 just last month!
>>334918790
oh look at mr Enlightened Intelligence here who doesn't like sport
>>334918281
>xbone
Full retard.
After 5 fucking games
and the netcode is still GARBAGE
I have optic fiber and never reach more that 15 ping in any other game
Yet I'm matched with third world country shitter
what the fuck FROM
>>334919091
They basically remade DeS in DaS, you know. That's how the Japanese do things. They do it over and over again until it's perfect. Sort of like how Kojima has been trying to perfect the same game for 25 years.
Does it work? Sometimes. Not always. It's just how they are.
>>334921612
Nah. I love my Xbox.
>>334921495
>Emperor Palpatine fanclub
god i forgot how much I liked this guy
>>334921828
I'm still pretty butthurt Bamco forced Miyazaki into making it so linear.
>>334921892
You want non-linear go outside
>>334921951
>>334921892
you can can kill the princes in the first 20 minutes you dumb fucks
>Established IP sells more than previous installments.
Woah.
Impressive.
>>334921885
You're probably a shill yourself.
>>334922142
What am I shilling? The truth?
>>334922006
So you can kill the other 3 cinder lords in less than 20 minutes? That's some kind of record
>>334905059
Glad to see my favorite game series in recent times going mainstream and getting the recognition and player base it deserves :::^^^)))
>>334905059
>fastest selling = confirmed Best
Wow, I guess Fallout 4 must have been the best RPG ever then.
>giant bro tossing fuckhuge javelins at your enemies
still not as good as bloodborne
I can't believe the didn't retcon Dark Souls 2. Dark Souls 2 is one of the worst games ever made and they include into canon like they are okay with it existing. That is my biggest problem with Dark Souls 3.
>>334922896
Don't go up the tower on NG+
>>334922229
Dumb frogposter.
>>334923029
This. I felt offended just seeing ds2 armor sets.
>>334921885
>I like my console
>YOU'RE A SHILL!
Calm down anon
>>334923029
Eat a dick
>sweet gwyndolin got devoured by a literally who blob monster for no raisin
why
>Harder doesn't equal better
I know that the game is designed around quicker enemies and movement overall, and the game would be frustratingly hard without quick estus recovery and fog wall invulnerability. The consequence it has on PvP is still shit, and that's just the way it is.
And why someone would think anything about Dark Souls 1 backstabs, which trivialized world enemies as well as PvP, is a plus and worth bringing back is astonishing. When I said "miss", I should have clarified that attacking near someone's back will often initiate the whole animation while your opponent continues rolling away. That's just plain bad, inferior to DS2. To compensate for this in the pve they upped the tracking and span of enemy attacks, while adding additional moves that hit you from behind. It works for the most part (black and silver knights are still a joke), but is it the best they could have done?
>tfw no moon goddess (male) to serve
remember to kill every aldrichfag you see
>>334919206
>t-the entire game was shit but the dlcs were good!
>t-that means the b team isn't so bad, guys...
>>334919770
maybe Aldrich copied Priscilla's appearance from his dream?
I am glad they didn't do something retarded like have it be console exclusive again. PC made the souls franchise what it is.
>>334923029
>Dark Souls 2 is one of the worst games ever made
Man, the things you read on this board.
I played it non stop the first week days it was released.
But, by the weekend I was ready for a break.
I might pick it back up this weekend, I left off in the Boreal Valley ghost town area thing, and was gettin' my ass kicked.
The challenge of the game is gone since I can just run from bonfire to bonfire, or bonfire to boss without having to actually fight anything other than the bosses. I literally found 3 bonfires in the area without killing shit.
>Pleb's Delight: Dark Souls 2.
>Normie memes: Dark Souls, Dark Souls 3.
>Hipster Bullshit: Demon's Souls.
>Patrician's Choice: Bloodborne.
>>334918790
>>334921612
Xbone is easily > PS4, winning by controller design and better online service
>favorite covenant npc gets eaten by some retarded blob "lord" who's only back story was "he eats things"
I'm still mad, and to top it all off the Darkmoon Blades are borked AGAIN. Fuck off Miyazaki.
>>334923108
What happens?
I really don't know what to think about it. During some parts I definitely felt like it was the best ever, and other parts I felt like it was disappointing. It reminds me of Demon's Souls more than anything in terms of level design, enemy placement, pacing and overall creativity, which is a good thing.
It's conflicting because despite being better than DaS2, it needed to do more than just return to form, especially being the last game in the series. Relative to DaS1, there's almost no forward progress here, just slightly better graphics and a tighter late game. And weapon skills, i guess.
DaS3 doesn't seem to take any risks or do anything innovative, and that's doubly frustrating because we saw hints of that early on with shit like making your own bonfires and the phantom swords and other things which didn't make it in. It's a reminder of DaS2 throwing the torch concept out the window after the entire game was designed around it. I actually didn't like Bloodborne as much, but it at least tried some interesting things which show that Miyazaki and crew have fresh ideas, so I don't know why they were afraid to implement them here.
>>334923695
>Demon Souls & Bloodborne
>In a Dark Souls thread
Seriously, no one cares.
>>334905059
I don't know man, I'm not satisfied with the weapons in DS3
So it has happened. Dark Souls is popular and therefore /v/ must hate it. Like clockwork.
>>334923695
Patricians are scum
Stop posting and go back to listening to Kid A
Precision.
I don't get people's seething hatred for Dark Souls 2.
I mean do you people forget how shitty and unfinished the second half of Dark Souls 1 is?
I feel like people dickride DaS so hard because it was babby's first souls experience. It would be interesting to see if people who started with DeS hate DaS2 and much as people who started with DaS.
>>334905059
What went right is people not listening to /v/ being retarded and saying that it's shit when they actually haven't played it yet that's what.
It's a good game. Way better than DS2.
>>334923852
These hitboxes are pretty good. I rarely felt cheated in boss fights.
>>334923904
/v/ has become its own worst enemy. Dark Souls is exactly the type of games they whined they weren't getting in these days and now that they get them, they whine that it's too popular to be good.
>>334923792
>"I don't care! No one does. But I mean I had to reply (because I care so little) to tell you that nobody --NOBODY-- cares!
Kek. Retarded.
>>334905059
What order should I play the Souls series? I have access to them all.
>>334905215
DaS2 on it's own doesn't fully live up to DaS1, but with SotFS it comes down to opinion.
If you are a fan of the series literally zero fucking reason to skip the game.
>>334923876
I started with DeS, bought a ps3 to import it after seeing thecomfythreads on here.
DaS2 is still a huge disappointment, while DaS actually improved on DeS in most ways besides not having an area I love as much as Tower of Latria.
In my opinion: DaS = BB > DeS = DaS3 >>> DaS2
Haven't finished DaS3 yet though. Despite what I think its place in the series is, DeS will likely remain one of my favorite games ever because it revitalized my interest in games in a time when every single game was a huge disappointment to me.
>>334923876
I don't hate DaS2, but it was disappointing. It definitely lacked the polish that its predecessors had, and the quantity over quality approach left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths. The story and NPCs were a real letdown, especially.
>>334924062
DeS, DaS, DaS 3, DaS 2, Bloodborne
>>334921478
Gwyndolin really had a hard life.
>>334924062
Release order, always.
>>334924062
Demons is not connected, but worth a play. Bloodborne is also not connected, but it's a great game.
1 definitely, 2 is entirely skippable, and then 3 of course.
>>334918281
You have nice hair
>>334921478
Gwyndolin was being swallowed, meaning that his suffering was prolonged intentionally by Aldritch. Pretty rough way to go out.
>>334924293
>2 is entirely skippable
just fuck off
>>334905126
>DaS3 is the best Souls game
>straight swords are the most overpowered weapons in the game
>boss and enemy designs literally got harder for the sake of being harder and are not actually well designed
>Miracles, Sorceries, and Pyromancy are dogshit
>NPC quests are downright cryptic
>Easily the worst covenant systems in the entire series
Sorry man, Das1+Artorias DLC is still the best Souls game. At worst this game is slightly better than DaSII. And DaSII actually did a few things far better than this game.
>>334920658
People actually think mgs2 was the best?
Ho boy that's rich
>>334924343
Mediterranean genes do this to you.
why are leonhard, laurtrec, and yurt so fucking good. depending on your first game, you can tell they are sketchy but don't see then as an actual threat. till they fuck you over. I don't know if ds2 had an assassin, because I missed it on my first playthrough.
>>334924440
It was and still is.
>>334921156
>getting this butt frustrated
Who hurt you anon? Was it uncle Pete?
>>334923852
The first couple of loops I saw that, I was thinking: "Wow, he takes no damage? Must be a bug". But then I realized that hitboxes aren't supposed to be invisible.
>not killing yourself when you realize you just summoned Ping Wan from China
>>334905059
PCucks were ravenous and frothing at the mouth because they missed out on Bloodborne 2bh.
>>334924372
There will be a DLC where we can go back in time with the help or Yorshka and save Gwyndolin...right? I'm legit upset by this, Gwyndolin was my favorite NPC in DaS1 next to Solaire. I don't mind him dying, but the way it happened was just so awful and disrespectful. I would have been cool if say, he saw Anor Londo dying and the world decaying long after the CU linked the flames, he attempted it himself but fucked up.
But no, he got slowly eaten by some retarded blob thing that you never actually see outside the intro to the game.
>>334924407
You forget that in DaS1, enemies acted like MMO mobs and bosses were easily defeated with halberd and greatshield. It's like every time a sequel gets released, /v/ believes the previous one was perfect. It's not. DaS1 has boring as fuck enemies that aren't bosses. BB actually fixed this by making them aggressive.
>>334924602
It's not like Gwyndolin was a massively important character either. You could play through DaS without ever seeing him. Most people who played DaS probably didn't even realize Gwynevere was an illusion.
>>334921478
>He pretended to be a girl to get dad to love him
he was raised as a girl you idiot
>>334924606
>BB fixed this by being aggressive
Yeah, and Miyahacki forgot he was making a Souls game and not another BB game. So enemies are faster, more aggressive, have infinite stamina, but the MC is still a slow and sluggish piece of shit compared to The Hunter.
>>334923909
Yeah, I was amazed at the amount of times a boss swung clean over my head after my character bent over while swinging his weapon. Grab/charge hitboxes are still pretty fucked tho.
>>334924407
>npc quest are cryptic.
maybe if you're blind or retarded.
>boss designs harder.
there is no boss in ds3 that stands out in difficulty from other games except nameless and cinder.
>covenants
I'd rather have 3 overlapping covenants then pointless ones.
everything else is kinda valid though.
>>334905215
>Never played DaS2
I wasnt that lucky, don't play it is boring af
>>334923909
grabs are still fucked
nameless dragon thing hit me with his spord a million times even though it went clearly above me
otherwise it's been pretty gud
>>334924407
DaS has the worst gameplay.
>Dogshit poise that wrecked the game on its own, dumbing down the game to manipulating poise and BS defense.
>Oki BS is too easy.
>Worst movesets in the series, degrading every encounter to smash r1.
>DWGR.
>Ultra weapons pretty much garbage 1-handed and completely unusable.
>Upgrading a weapon improves the hit-stun, meaning you have no idea how weapons really work until fully upgraded.
>Weapons in a class have different swing speeds which means some have optimal combo proclivity while others are absolutely garbage.
>Stagger animations when you miss swings with some weapons.
It's trashman tier.
Soundtrack is pretty ace this time around, no real standout winners like in DaS1 but very good balance all the way through, and the multi-phase tracks are a slick bonus.
>invade somebody
>they immediately summon three phantoms
>get squashed
I fucking hate this shit
>>334924764
>what is Pontiff
>I'd rather have 3 overlapping covenants than pointless ones
Not saying the other covenant systems were better, but this game has by far the worst compared to DaS1 and DaSII. BLUE SENTIALS AND DARKMOON BLADES DO LITERALLY THE SAME FUCKING THING. WHY BOTHER PUTTING THE VELKA STATUE TO ABSOLVE YOUR "SINS" WHEN THE DARKMOON BLADES DON'T EVEN GO AFTER SINNERS ANYMORE THEY'RE JUST SHOE-HORNED INTO THE WAY OF BLUE LORE
Fuck.
>>334924293
>2 skippable
I mean, sure the vanilla game it's much worse than the rest, but it's still a good game, specially the DLCs, that have 9/10 quality and one of the best bosses in the franchise. Almost hard to imagine they were made by the same team.
>>334924985
Whoops, meant to say
>Not saying the other covenant systems were perfect
Obviously I am implying they were better.
>>334923703
>contoller
No, ds4 is much better.
>Better online
people say this but I have never actually met anyone who has had issues only people here bitching 'cuz their parents won't spring for anything better than dial up
>forgetting games, hardware, fan base, legacy, support
xbone. not even once.
>>334905059
At least it was a good send-off for the series.
Did From say what's the next game their gonna go for?
>>334918281
>xbone
ahahaahhahaahahahha
>>334924985
the covenant system can't be worse if rats and grave servants aren't in the game anon. also pontiff didn't fuck me that much. I do feel you on the dark moons though.
>>334905059
Nithibg its shit.
>>334921674
its not running on magic anon
if you invade somewhat on a shit tier wi fi connection you'll get shit
what the fuck do you expect ?
its not server based is p2p
>>334925152
Wouldn't expect them to deviate from the formula too much. Bloodborne 2 is probably a given, and then we'll get some new IP that plays similar but has a completely different premise.
>>334925206
But aside from the stupid invading limitations, the covenants in DaSII were a lot better in this game
You had your
>Blue defenders
>Red invaders
>Dickass Rat covenant
>Belfry Gargoyal covenant for ganking fun
>An actual single player oriented covenant
With no overlapping anything
>>334921674
Because japs can't into netcode and they only bother testing this shit in japan where everyone has low ping relative to each other.
>>334908863
Close as much background running applications as you can
>>334925045
Just saying it as I see it, sure the DLC are above the vanilla game, but some parts of it are still pretty dogshit. Blue smelter (and I'm not excusing the 3 asylum demons), 3 npc boss fight with their amazing cheating AI, that whole ice area with the reindeers only to fight 2 copy pasted bosses from the same dlc. The level design is good, but only because the base game is fucking shit compared to it
>>334908539
>Stare at the AMAZING CHEST
>got shot by a giant fucking arrow in the back
fucking cockblocker knight piece of shit
>>334919219
And if that works, you can turn up settings until you start crashing now again.
>>334905059
I'm 90% sure you're all just trying to fit in. Beaten all of them, except bloodborne, and Scholar is still my favourite.
>>334924260
I think I'll go with you as I'm playing Demons Souls right now and want to get 3 soon but could squeeze DaS in before.
>>334905059
>What went right?
Moves look cool
>>334925485
I'm enjoying the covenants in this game as afinger invader. you never get good situations like the mound makers turning on their summoner, or invading with the watchers of farron. I never like the dark moons, so it may be my bias.
>>334924717
>but the MC is still a slow and sluggishgit gud
>>334905059
>not using denuvo
>still make a profit when pirate exists
RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>334905215
DaS>BB>DeS=DaS3>DaS2
>>334925707
WE DRAGON'S DOGMA NOW
>>334925735
I meant to say you never got good situations like that in ds2. I've done those things in ds3 and they are great
DS3 is too short.
>>334925912
>just fuck my shit up:the meal
>>334925912
Agreed. I went pretty slow and it was still only 30 hours. $60 for 30 hours of entertainment is still incredibly worth it though, and it's not like I won't replay it. But yeah, 1 and 2 were both longer for me.
>>334925782
He's right. Unkindled handles like a shopping cart with a bum wheel compared to Hunter. Also that didn't stop me from 1-shotting every boss but Twins.
>a trap in a popular game franchise for once
>gets eaten alive
god dammit miyazaki, I wanted to serve the boipucci once more and strike down sinners.
>>334926048
Well, we still have the DLC. How many will it be, 2?
>Wolfdick covenant
>Finally get summoned after a billion years
>The player is fighting the NPC phantom with the Xanthous head
>Phantom targets me, player tries to run back to bonfire
>Player spends the next 20 minutes running away, it is nearly impossible to get any hits in and he is able to chug estus anyway because it is literally unpunishable
Every single invasion is like this. Every fucking time.
>tfw no money to get DS3
>>334926048
To be fair, while it is shorter, the areas are also more dense and interesting than most areas in 2.
>>334925912
I shouldn't want this.
But fuck I want this.
Goodbye, my heart.
>DaS2 was a bad game
i seriously hate this meme
>>334926429
it's a pretty good game. but bad compared to other souls games.
>>334925102
Playstation network goes down for days at a time regularly.
And
>DS4 much better
Anon please. The DS4 is worse than the DS3, and that's impressive.
>>334925554
I agree with those complains but have in mind that all of those things you mentioned are all from separate optional areas (which btw, you are supposed to play them in coop), and this franchise has a history for lazy optional areas like ashen lake or the recent smouldering lake. This doesn't justify it, but still, the obligatory levels all have great quality, like in DaS3.
>>334926048
I should also mention I played the entire game at a sub 30 framerate, as bad as 17fps in abyss watchers for example which make it more difficult than it should have been by far.
Strange, I can run scholar at 50-60 at all points, heaps of this just runs like ass though, and I updated drivers.
>>334926429
I'll just say it
DaS2 was far, FAR better than this game for PVP. DaS3 PvP and covenants are a fucking joke compared to DaS2's. The covenants and DaS3 completely feel like an afterthought.
>>334926706
>Playstation network goes down for days at a time regularly.
No it doesn't. That's happened once.
>>334905059
not being the let down in all aspects except player options that is dark souls 2.
>>334926706
>Steam loses connection at least eight times a day
>Game forcibly returns to the title screen immediately
>>334926176
Only the starting area (High wall, settlement and cathedral) that is dense and interesting.A
These level are comparable to the crowns trilogy.
The rest of the area felt really lacking, and who the fuck think Smouldering lake is a good idea?
Also, its way too fucking linear once you get your feet on sacrifical road. holy shit it felt like a mario games where you go to levels after level and occasionally went into some hidden/bonus level.
>>334926886
I'm no defender of DaS2, but at least you could invade hosts that didn't have a thousand phantoms with them 90% of the time.
>>334927187
git good. dont expect fair fights just abuse the npcs n shit
I guess its a shame you can't just fuck with one guy doing his thing anymore
>>334926048
I beat it in 27 and a half hours which is roughly half the time it took me to beat Dark Souls 1 for the first time. I don't know if that's because I got gud since I've had four games worth of experience in me or if it's because it's short.
>>334921478
>Gwyndolin gets eaten alive by a blob "lord" of cinder for no reason, Aldrich is a literal nobody character because he's just a mass
>Darkmoon Blades are bastardized and turned into Blue Sentinels 2.0 for no reason even thought there's a Velka statue to absolve sins
Did Miyazaki just really fucking hate Gwyndolin for some reason.
>>334921674
that webm would go well with benny hill music
>>334927382
How do people do this. Did you not explore at all? Do no optional bosses or areas?
>>334908863
On mobile so I don't know if you solved it, but you need to increase your virtual memory. I was having the same problem. Google "how to increase virtual memory for your OS".
>>334925980
>he doesn't know about appetizer samplers for being out with a lot of friends.
>>334926886
>>334927187
fucking scrubs I swear.
>>334928257
I did 30 hours, all optional bosses, explored everything. 30 hours is a long time anon, I assume anybody who took longer than that spent most of it in pvp or is just new/bad at these games.
>There are people who skipped DaSII
I bet you didn't play Invisible War either you casuals.
>>334928473
>he fell for the Scholar of the First Sin is bad meme
Us Dark Souls II haters amiright guys?
>>334928473
Please explain to me how DaS3 pvp and covenants are better than DaS2's.
I'm waiting asshole.
>>334928257
>How do people do this.
I wonder too, probably using phantoms to clear bosses or areas faster
Took me 38h to beat it, I explored a lot but not everything, skipped Smouldering Lake too, offline mode.
On the new builds I make and now that I have online, I can clear like half the game in 5h.
>>334928473
Here (You) go, enjoy it.
>>334928690
No Soul Memory
Back to DaS1 focus on invasions instead of honorfaggotry
Full Red Eyed Orb
Twinking no longer possibleNo fucking Soul Memory
>>334926936
Yeah aside from
>worst enemy placement than DaS2
>forced artificial infinite power armor/stamina on enemies
>worst weapons lineup
>shittiest armor lineup, majority of them is a recycled armor
>least amount of content
>poise is fucked up on both end
>bigger slower weapon doesn't do as much poise and damage per stamina/speed compared to medium weapon
>boss weapons is outright fucking useless aside from its special gimmicky move due to its shit scaling and the fact that it can't be infused
>recycled weapon/equipment for a fucking boss weapon holy shit
>linear with a single branching at most
>gimmicky boss (Fucking Yhorm and wyvern are the worse)
>infinite adds on some bosses
>covenants is SHIT
>you can use red soapstone as Sunlight Warriors and kill the host, rewarding you with Sunlight Medal (nice one FROM)
>worst NPC questline in term of triggers
>worse netcode than DaS2 (that can cause bugs n shit)
>shitty optimization (levels are still rendered despite not being in view what the fuck) with crash issue etc
>shameless fan pandering (look at these mountains of corpse of the things you know lol)
>weapon art is shittier than power stance
>worse lore when it comes to expositions and narrative (where is the equivalent of Kaathe and Frampt?)
if they fix watchdogs/dmb/blue sentinels not working at all whatsoever for a large amount of players, it'd take over dks1 for my favorite. But as it is, I still like how pretty much everything in dks1 still fucking works.
>>334928887
>Twinking not possibleIt doesn't check for rings
>>334928690
you know its weird how people who like DaS2 are also the ones who have shit-tier opinions on everything in Souls games.
>>334928887
>Twinking no longer possible
Twinking in DaS2 require the most attention to details, dedication as well as skill to pull it off.
Which is why there is almost no such thing in DaS2, so the words 'no longer' does not apply here.
>Back to DaS1 focus on invasions instead of honorfaggotry
In DaS the red phantom have the OPTION to engage the host fairly.
You may hate honorfaggotary, but it is something that some people want to do.
>Full Red Eyed Orb
The only plus from DaS2, but still a step down from DaS3 because it is the ONLY Eyed Orb that have the same function across the covenants.
>>334929416
I'm not even saying DaS2 is better as a game you fucking drooling moron, I'm saying THIS CERTAIN ASPECT of DaS2 is better.
>DaS2fags invade the thread
Can someone post the pontiff copy pasta that starts with from his chamber in shit city
>>334929687
You know, at least they tried to reasons with poster who disagree with them.
The haters on the hand;
>its shit its shit
>greentext
>reaction image
Instead of properly reply with their own arguments etc.
Ya know, like what you just did.
>>334928257
I did everything in 40
and that is counting idling or going for groceries while sitting in firelink because I'm too lazy to start the game up again
Everything considered it's probably closer to 35 as there were many shits inbetween too
>>334928690
I really don't understand how people like DaS2 when it failed badly in every regard. Especially PvP.
DaS2 had no proper place for your "honor pvp", soul memory was goddamn shit it ruined EVERYTHING.
DaS3 focuses a whole lot of invasions and that is fucking fun. Mound Makers trumps everything DaS2 tried to do.
>>334929687
>op claim is about best souls game
>other people prefer other game in series
"Wah wah not conforming to the hivemind"
Fuck you.
>>334929665
Didn't read your post because you're not addressing Soul Memory.
Soul Memory alone made DaS2 a shit game, it could've done everything better than 1 it would still be a shit game for Soul memory alone.
>>334929687
>talk about how X game did some things better than Y game
>present arguments
>instead of trying to refute points, Y game people spout memes, post reaction images, and do not attempt to refute the points
If your first Souls game wasn't Demon's you have no right to talk shit about any sort of "fags"
>>334929837
>they
I want to use Smough's hammer
At a staggering 45 str requirement, how much str do I need to just 2 hand it? Do I still lose scaling bonus damage by wielding it this way? Can it be infused?
>>334930035
DaS2 have more than double the amount of consistent player than DaS because of the healthy PvP.
Soul memory does not stop these because they manage to adapt to the new system and mechanic rather than just walk away from it just like you did.
>>334930071
I would have to disagree with that last point but I like all souls games. I'm a different fag btw
>>334925554
>Slog through the bullshit Winter Wonderland the first time
>Those Reindeers with heatseeking and lock on and the obnoxious, though admittedly cool, blizzard gimmick
>Finally reach the boss
>LMAO 2CAT
>First one jumps down and instantly smacks me twice for 50% while I was in full heavy armor
It was the first and only time I straight up said "no" and just left the area forever.
>>334922229
>Hurdur someone has a different opinion from me
Really anon this is exactly why people hate the psn community
>>334930606
You're talking about the optional area anon.
Each DLC have this 1 area with ridiculous mobs and boss at the end.
They throw these area in specifically for co-op run with a room that allow a higher summon range and for those without the DLC to be brought in.
You can still challenge this area solo, but it would, just as you just experienced, a fucking pain in the ass.
I've already bought it twice. 9/10 IMO
I wish I could post screenshots but they're way too big
>>334921398
>implying he's wrong
The real meme is the one about DaS II being a bad game.
>>334930867
Oh I'm well aware of the optional areas and what you're meant to do, but it was the first time the game had presented me with such quanitity of bullshit that I didn't even feel like giving it a second go. The ganksquad and Cool Ranch Smelter at least have a relatively short and horrific run to their respective boss gates, while the tundra zones is just miles of fluffy white bullshit.
>>334924020
Okay, timmy
>gimmick bosses are terrible
>anything other than 'hit it in the ankles with your sword until it dies' is a gimmick
I can't be the only one at least enjoying the variety here. Shoot the cyberdemon until it dies-tier bosses are fun and all but it never hurts to mix things up a little.
Ancient Wyvern was pretty cool and I'll even use the c-wordcinematiceven if I whiffed twice because the fucker reared back in mid-drop. Tree is a pain with any weapon other than straight swords but it forces you to change your strategies and move around a lot instead of just circle right, roll, stab.
DaS2 got a lot of heat for lots of single big knight enemies, they went in the complete opposite direction with 3 and people still be bitchin.
>>334921398
I'm playing them for the first time back to back and so far the DLCs have captured the conceptual grandness of the first game far better than the main game's stuff. I won't argue that the main game should of had this level quality from the start though.
>>334929837
>>334930071
Is this bait?
There has been arguments against Dark Souls 2 both by the community, devs and press, why would I need to repeat what have been said countless times?
But ok, here I go. It's mostly terrible enemy designs and patterns, terrible level design and enemy placement, thus resulting in most gameplay situations being the same (this counts for bosses too). And graphics even worse than DaS1, further ruining the atmosphere.
Bonus: the world design is a step back from DaS1, not only it's linear, but there is also no incentive to go back in any area once completed and while in DaS1 you spent most of your time on foot traveling around the world being lost and shit, here you spend a lot of your time looking at loading screens or thinking about where you'll teleport next because the game requires you to teleport all the fucking time. Basically it's like a worse version of DeS. The attention to details simply isn't here too, it's like they barely scratched the surface of what makes a Souls game interesting.
And by the way, it's OK for a game of your favorite series to be shit, it's not the end of the world, the devs themselves admitted it wasn't supposed to be that bad and that developments issues crippled the product, there is reasons for it to be worse, objective ones.
And yes Demon's Souls was my first one but I don't see how it matters.
Could someone give me a close up of Patches? Trying to make a Patches character.
>>334931404
I'm completely fine with it
It's like they took the idea of DeS bosses but made the fight more interesting.
>>334905059
If it sells the most, therefore, it is the best.
It really is a very solid souls game. There were no bosses I can say I truly disliked, and really enjoyed most. Weapon arts are fun, and the new riposte for shield breaks punishes shield fags in PvP.
Probably the best up there with BB.
Just got a pair of eyes. I now have the option to wish for a world without flame.
Should I do it.
>>334931987
It unlocks best song in the game, do it.
You can still reverse it if you change your mind.
>>334931983
>mfw stun ripostes for bosses returned from BB
>>334931404
I think the average quality of the bosses so far has exceeded the other souls games, though I'm only at Irithyll Dungeon. Abyss Watchers, Pontiff, Deacons and Greatwood were all pretty unique and fun to figure out. They don't quite beat the series' best moments, but they're very enjoyable.
>>334928427
I don't see friends around that table.
>>334931987
pointless as there will always be embers that appear in the darkness
>>334931404
>DaS2 got a lot of heat for lots of single big knight enemies, they went in the complete opposite direction with 3 and people still be bitchin.
It's almost like there is a concept of middle ground. Going from one extreme to another never turns out good, see MGS4 and 5 for example
>>334905059
Same thing as pokemon,the name sells.
>>334907757
>Original creators
It was made by the D-Team and it shows. They just copied all the assists from Dks1 (and a lot from Dks2)
