If Abstergo and Assassins were real, which group do you side/agree with?
neither
they're both made out of edgy retards who terrorize civilians in one way or another - especially in the modern setting - and they should be put down like the parasites they are
Instruments of the First Order
>>334900991
I'd like to think I'd pick the assassins, but chances are I'd be a pussy and go with templars.
50/50 I'd suddenly flip like a retard on the spot for no reason if confronted to make any kind of semi-important choice, and get myself killed on the spot like a nobody.
Templars, they did literally nothing wrong
The Assassins are a bunch of edgy delusional pricks
>>334900991
Templars, they're literally always right, not even being edgy.
>if
>>334903268
>they did literally nothing wrong
Outside of nearly killing all the people they purposely made homeless in New York.
Neither, they're both retarded.
I've only played 1, 2, ACB, ACR and watchdogs.
Are Assassins still "We will save the world by giving them freedom and kill any Templar in our way" and Templars are still "We will save the world by secretly taking control and kill anyone in our way"?
>>334900991
Assassins, because I don't hate freedom
>>334900991
Probably Templars
Generally I prefer lawful alignments and orderly shit over chaotic stuff
>>334906592
Pretty much. You should play Rogue, man.
>>334900991
I don't know enough about either group to make a choice.
I dropped the series when they introduced ayyliums in 2.
>>334900991
If I had to be a part of one of the organisations than a Templar.
If I was an uninvolved civilian I'd hop Assassins would win tho.
>>334908046
You missed out. The alien shit is pretty easy to ignore.
Just don't ever buy Unity. Syndicate is shit too, but much less so thanks to some sweet outfits, weapons, dlc, andBEING PLAYABLE AT LAUNCH.
>>334908046
Good choice.
Templars
>>334908046
>not playing Brotherhood and Assassins of the Carribean
>>334908532
Brotherhood was great, and the only thing really wrong with Revelations was Desmond/Ezio/Altair's face.
Everyone likes to jerk off over Black Flag, but I found Rogue to be more fun.
III was pretty shit in most parts, and Unity was cancer
>>334908453
syndicate is pretty fucking boring overall.
>>334900991
Templars.
They are the real good guys of AC.
>>334908453
>Just don't ever buy Unity
>not playing Templars were right:the game
>>334908976
If anything, buy it used. Ubisoft doesn't deserve money for releasing the buggiest AC yet.
>>334908046
pirate black flag
its fucking great
>>334908850
I agree. And that crossdressing character didn't help.
I just play pretend with Evie in Shao Jun's outfit or Jacob in Sherlock Holmes.
>>334908805
Brotherhood was good but the series took a plummet after that. 2 is undoubtedly the best though.
>>334908976
>not playing Templars were right:the game
You mean Rogue - the AC game that let's you join the Templars, has a better story and characters, and wasn't completely fucked at launch and still only lesser so today?
>>334900991
Neither, the Templar's plan is essentially Big Brother, while the Assassins have gradually lost sight of their purpose and just fight any authority they don't like.
>>334909316
*still is
>>334909151
You cheeky bastard
>>334909183
>Shao Jun
Don't fucking remind me. We could've had a full 3D Assassin's Creed China.I'm waiting for AC Chronicles China to go on sale
Templars.
Stopped playing after AC: Rogue though after I heard Unity and Syndicate were shit; just saved myself the trouble and checked out some of the story shit on youtube.
Game went from being a kind of interesting observation on two shadowy groups with morally ambiguous to generally lawful/chaotic ideologies to this...preachy mess of nonsense. Fucking Karl Marx, really?
I mean, if Ubisoft had any balls, they'd set the next game during WW2 with Hitler as an ally of the assassins and the Templar Council of Doom or whatever are Jews--bankers, industrialists, etc.
They won't do it though. They'll never go after Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Atheists, Gnostics. The Pope is fair game though.
They are both fucking wrong, grovelling for control over a speck of dust in space when really they should be teaming up against the 'Gods' to free humanity.
>>334909550
They weaseled their way out of more modern settings in IV. There was a document stating something about driving vehicles putting the brain/memory into a different state - blah blah.
Yet in Unity, there's a WWII segment. And in Syndicate, acool but lazyWWI one.
>>334909550
>heard Unity and Syndicate were shit
You don't like contextual weapons and see-through-walls Eagle Vision?
>>334909772
You've got to be kidding me.
So...trains, stage-coaches, ships, boats, horses (since the first goddamn game), those are good, but the second you get into a car it's all ogre.
I get the feeling that a woman made that decision.
>>334910062
;^)
>>334900991
Like most of the "free" world today - The Templars.
Order above all.
>>334910156
Where's the new one?
I believe people ultimately need to be kept in line and controlled, for things to run smooth and efficient. Freedom to an extent is all well and good, but too much can be damning.
So Templars. Wish they were the protagonists in more games.
>>334900991
Templars did nothing wrong.
Assassins are terrorists compared to them
also this >>334901762
>>334910306
Shay a best.
>>334910264
Do you mean assassins creed syndicate?
>>334909393
>some slut in "abstergo hub world" says "happy pirating"
great game
>>334910371
>>334910264
Wait is this real?
Also, I gave up a couple hours into black flag, is it really worth going back to? The gameplay is decent fun for me no more. Does it have great settings or set pieces later on, or a good story? Otherwise I don't see myself going back to it
I also bothered to see some reviews and skim through bits of lets plays of unity and syndicate and while the game might be bland gameplay and innovation wise, the settings in paris and london look like a lot of fun. Are they worth pirates?
>>334910371
whew lad
>>334910371
The one added in either that or Unity, I think. It added "sexual identities" or something similar.
>Assassins
>Anything but Retards ever since Altair left
>>334910470
I'm still playing it, but I'd say it's worth playing more of of you love pirate shit and don't mind tailing missions.
Rogue is better overall, in my opinion.
>>334910513
That's it
>>334910470
>>334910481
>>334910470
Honestly it seems like it might just be a matter of taste. Black Flag was really open and the ship stuff was a shit load of fun for me. The characters too were pretty decent--Edward Kenway was a good protagonist in that he had some pretty big flaws, and while it's an AC game, he was really a lot more into pirating than getting involved in some bullshit feud.
Also, the settings were varied, which I loved; so you had these like...proto-colonial cities and forts, jungles, and the underwater shit that where you had to dodge sharks that was pretty intense. And the ship battles were tight--I mean, blasting the bejezus out of a Man-o-War in a storm, dodging rogue waves, then boarding that sucker and killing everyone on board and looting that bitch.
But if trains and frogs are more your thing, there's Unity and Syndicate. That they got rid of the ship stuff was one of the big reasons I decided not to bother with it, and the Fry twins in Syndicate looked just...really, really cringey. These walking clichés that are ultimately forgettable.
>>334910652
I like Rogue, I just wish they had given better reasons for Shay's defection besides a misunderstanding that could have been talked out.
The asses didn't know what the artifact would cause and Shay was a fool to think they wanted to demolish a city on purpose. It really would have been easier if Shay told them calmly what the fuck happened.
>Assassins
>Bunch of snobby fucks who can only give shit eating grins and communicate through sarcastic "cool" one liners
>Meanwhile, on the templar side
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRbI05b6Qv4
>>334910717
I didn't even touch the series before IV was announced. Pirate stuff and the Caribbean hyped me so much that I bought all the games up till IV and actually enjoyed them all.
I really liked the background lore tidbits and overall thought the games were solid 7/10 and 8/10 with the exception of Liberation (5/10) and IV (9/10).
>>334910787
Didn't they already try it on a different site, and the same thing happened?
>>334910958
>saying anything positive about IIII enjoyed it with the exception of how drawn out the young Connor segment was.
So is there any word on the next title? I've been a bit worried for a while now about how they handle historical shit the closer they get to modern times. To be honest, I'd be kinda happy if they just kept it pre-20th century, because 1)they just can't help themselves with the plot, and 2)it'll eventually become Creed of Duty.
>>334911095
Yeah, Haiti I believe.
Sure, the didn't want to destroy cities, but it was clear to Shay that at that point they were so desperate to get some kind of advantage after getting wrecked for centuries that they didn't bother taking precautions.
>>334911220
It's supposedly in Egypt and will have "a Witcher feel"
Keep your expectations low.
Templars
DEUS VULT
>>334911318
inb4 we wuz
>>334911409
Oh you know it's gonna happen.
>>334911318
Oh boy. WE WUZ ASSASSINS AND TEMPLARS AND SHEEEIT!
And "a Witcher feel"? So--you'll be roaming the country side slaying monsters?
>>334911095
>>334911260
In Haiti they didn't know the cause of the earthquake was the removal of the artifact. To them it was a coincidence and Shay could have explained what happened in Lisabon without blowing up in everybody's face.
Sure the assassins then were kinda uptight but they would have listened (especially Liam) if Shay didn't barge in and trying to murder the nigger straight away.
>>334911208
I disliked Connor a lot throughout the whole game but as a yuropoor the setting was interesting for me and the new mechanics were cool, not to mention Haytham being probably the best character in the franchise.
>>334911471
Maybe they meant the combat. Anything is better than the contextual shit we've gotten lately
>>334911409
>subsaharans are the original creators of actual first civilization
>ligtskinned egyptians worship the oppressive aliens
>dindu civilization is burned to ground by alien magic
>game starts with slave dindu fighting for freedom and becoming night itself - the assasin
>>334911497
>Send guy to remove artifact
>City destroying earthquake
>Send another guy to remove artifact
>another city destroying earthquake
Are you seriously implying that they needed more proof? Maybe try a third time to make sure?
When Shay arrives and starts throwing insults all Achills does is dismiss him with "it's impossible, shut up or you're grounded." It's not like it was the hat of the moment or anything either, even after Shay "dies" they have plenty of time to check the facts and see that Lisbon was indeed completely wrecked. The norma reaction would be "woah, hold your horses, maybe Shay was unto something" but instead they go full speed for the next artifact and only make the connection hen they're two feet away from touching it.
>>334911723
For some reason, I don't think "Assassin's Creed: KINGS AND KWEENS" is really going to do so hot considering--despite their best efforts--most people who play vidja games are in fact, white males in their teens to their thirties.
>>334911409
>>334911471
If they go with the Project Osiris/Black Flag document artwork, you'll be playing as a dindu.I liked Liberation and even Freedom Cry, but this sounds awful
>>334911818
I hope it bombs. They should do China or Japan.
>>334911818
Lets make hip hop the first human music and thus a game mechanic
Kids love hip-hop right?
Is Unity worth it for $11 off Amazon? Even if it's not too fun, a friend has it too so we could co-op and that could offer some decent fun together.
>>334911895
I'd buy it used myself, but that can be a real gamble sometimes. So yeah, $11 is fine.
>>334911895
They patched the microtransaction chests to open without money now and the frame rate is mich better than release, so I'd go for it. Don't expect much, character-wise
>>334900991
Abstergo is the Jews and the Assassins are the Freemasons
They are both parasites that need to get gassed
Abstergo is neocon jewry, Assassins became leftycucks, Illuminati all the way senpai.
>Ubisoft loves to release them Prince of Persia games
>Planned spinoff game about assassins turns into its own game
>So succesful it becomes new cash cow
>Eventually people get bored
>Make assassin game with sailing minigame and everyone loves it
>They drop the ball and continue makig assassin games
Those fools should have seen the pattern and start a pirate IP
>>334911887
The Old West and Japan were considered around Black Flag's release, apparently.
these games were kinda fun when they had the light conspiracy elements and you found templar shit in the old paintings and historical puzzles you solved. shame that 3 (i guess 4 gets a pass) onward were such a huge franchise destroying entries.
>>334911824
Let's say they make Ancient Egypt the way this fucking meme's been going for the least 10 years or so--everyone was black as the Ace of Spades and they invent everything and they're super smart and noble and have an empire and yadda yadda yadda.
Naturally, you'll have the Templar, or Proto-Templar faction cock it all up. I'm guessing they'll go with a lighter skinned version of an Egyptian here, because hell, why not? Hell, maybe have it be like, the Romans=Templars and the Egyptians=Assassins. Romans are all whiter than polar bear cum, Egyptians are black as the night.
They could actually go with that and no one credible would call bullshit on it. No review site or magazine or anything is going to say that it's historically wrong or suggest that maybe Ptolemiac Egyptians had more in common with the Greeks or that the Nubians (actual darkies who took over Egypt) only reigned for about 100 years or so and probably not during the time period the game would be set in.
But let's say the gameplay was shit and legitimately was just a bad game, regardless of skin pigmentation or cheesy plot. Nobody buys it; huge shitstorm and suddenly there's a lot more clickbait articles about "Are gamers racist?" and "We need to do something about white privilege in gaming it's [Current Year]".
>>334912116
I have a feeling they will only make the japan game once sales plummet immensely, as a final attempt to make cash
Neither?
They're both cartoony retards
>>334909550
That's because christianity is an evil scum fuck religion
>>334912246
Sales already plummeted immensely, which is why they're introducing a 1-year break before the next game.
>>334912353
*tips fedora*
>>334912402
*tips back right at you*
There's a reason why every non-abrahamic culture on earth sees christianity in general and catholicism in particular as a huge cult-like scam
Why not just set the next Assassin's Creed in the future?
WE WUZ
>>334912210
Remember about the most important partWhite Semites are even more magical and perfect than black demigods but constantly enslaved by white cavemen
>>334912560
According to the leak, the main character is Nubian.
The Assassins never create for the sake of creation they only ever build themselves up so they can destroy something.
Fuck them.
Templars for life
>>334912563
I think I know exactly what you mean
>>334912542
Because they have no way of making a futuristic ass creed without firearms. Turning the series into FPS or TPS would upset fans of the current gameplay.
>>334912542
That'd take some actual effort.
Unless it's a post-apocalyptic future where everything's been brought back to medieval-tier technological level.That'd actually be very cool.
>>334912514
t. Council of Voodoo Masters
>>334912514
such a euphoric post!
>>334912654
>european civil/ethnic war happens
>poor innocent muslims lose to savage white cavemen
>europe sees another dark age
>Assassin's creed:__________Name it
>>334912829
>Socrates is on there.
>despite the fact that he believed in the greek pantheon
>>334912906
AC: Shoah?
>>334912560
>not Amunet
Fuck me.
From the wiki:
>By the time of the Renaissance, Amunet was respected as a great Assassin, and a statue of her had been placed in the Assassin Sanctuary of Monteriggioni.
>>334912906
How aboutliterally the first game?
>>334912906
Assassins CreedPremonition
>>334912906
Assassin's Creed: Idiot Can't Keep Politics Out of a Video Games Imageboard
>>334912906
A New Golden Age
>>334911318
>yfw First Civ uses the Stargate
>>334913046
I really enjoyed the Stargate movie.
>>334912560
So this is going the be the new and improved Freedom Cry?
>>334913142
Didn't think I'd like the movie as much as I did, still gotta give the series a proper watch though instead of an episode or two every time Dad watched it
>ywn ride the tricycle with Amanda Tapping and Claudia Black
>>334900991
>Assassins fucking each other continuously, abstergo infiltrating them like there's no tomorrow, have been near the border of extinction several times, have to hide to live, and in constant fear of what everyone might do
>Abstergo successful everytime that a great mentor hasn't been around, always rich, always in big corporations with all the commodities present, can't get infiltrated because the people trying to get in are convinced to either join them out of free will or are too strong mentally that they stand out like a sore thumb
Yeah, I'd rather live in richness and join Abstergo mind you
>>334900991
Neither. The Emprah of Japan was right when he thought that they were both cocks using his people as pawns to a goal he couldn't care less about.
>>334906592
Is Watch Doges in the AC universe?
>>334912085
>Deus Ex
>not siding with Tong
Do you hate freedom?
>>334913849
There's some reference in both games to each other.
BlackFlag and Rogue mention Blume which is the bad guy company in Watch underscore dogs, and in Seeing puppers you kill a character from Blackfag in a side mission
>>334900991
Probably abstergo because of my christian upbringing and an innate dislike for Islam
>riminder both assassins and templars are christian and Muslim
>>334907794
Is rogue a good game? I assumed it was just copy pasta of black flag, that is why I haven't played it yet
>>334900991
The assassins are a bunch of faggy hippies and the templars are a bunch of fascist faggots.
I'd pick templars. they seem to have a better grasp on reality.
>>334914056
>in Seeing puppers you kill a character from Blackfag in a side mission
I don't rememmber that bit. Who do you kill?
>>334903417
assassins are muslim-commies
the choice is clear
>>334914338
It's just a shorter Black Flag with some positive and negative additions to sailing(Puckle gun and notoriety respectively), way worse characters in every respect on both sides including Haytham who they somehow ruined, a better future segment(It's still the BF gameplay, but the characters are more interesting), and way way way better islands with more variety compared to BF. Seriously, River Valley has great islands, it's just garbage to actually sail in.
It's alright, it's just that there's almost no characterization for any of the Assassins so you have no real investment in killing them, the Templars are way too nice up until the last handful of missions, and Shay is just boring as a character.
>>334914608
The then CEO of Abstergo entertainment : Olivier Garneau
>itt edgy contra-contrarians can't enjoy simple vidya plotline without turning it into "templars did nothing wrong"
>>334914712
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZguS4D5s8vQ
>>334914712
Gist was a pretty cool guy
>>334914769
>simple vidya plotline
Not really dude. They're fucking around with history and the sad thing is this generation probably learns more about history from the AC series than from doing actual research or learning shit in school (although an argument can be made that shit you learn in school isn't a whole lot better)
>>334909316
>has a better story and characters
>Shay
>Spends months stewing in his anger on his boat ride back, yells at his mentor, and then betrays everyone he knew because of an argument without even thinking on it and kills them without remorse after killing a mercenary that helped him once. Makes his own luck.
>Achilles
>He's just more short-tempered than in AC3, that's about it.
>That poison girl
>She's friends with Shay and shay's best friend. Kind of flirty.
>Shay's best friend.
>Says he's Shay's best friend and cracks wise with him once and that's about it before you kill him.
>Random American Indian.
>Pissed at Shay the whole game on both sides.
>Random pissed off French guy on his ship.
>Is pissed off at Shay and constantly talking down to him.
Templar side.
>Haytham
>Take the AC3 Haytham, remove any and all playfulness and sarcasm and just make him cold-blooded and ruthless despite being after the first portion of AC3.
>Gist
>Overly cheery the entire game to make you like the Templars.
>That one colonel or governor or whoever
>Overly cheery and good to make you like the Templars when you betray the Assassins.
>Rest of the AC3 crew
Granted, Arno just wanted to bang Elise, Elise wanted the same, and there's Pisspot dude, and they were all basically just cardboard cutouts rather than characters outside of Pisspot guy who stuck to his duty and tried to train Arno right The AC:R crew.had almost no character as well, hell, Haytham's only good moment was with Adewale.
AC4 was shit but became godtier once I figured out how to prematurely board enemy vessels.
>>334914712
I just bought it online, why not its cheap second hand now. I havnt played an Ac game since unity
[Spoiler]which I actually liked [/spoiler]
I picked up blag flag for the ps4 too, cheap as well.
I played it on pc (I pirated it, ohh the irony)and 360 but not on new gen yet. Its got extra missions on ps4
>>334915114
>fucking around with history
>fiction
pick two
Abstergo
>Not!Ubistoft Illuminati
>>334915449
>>334914712
>Bitching about Haytham being cold blooded
>After the fact that it was after his trip back to Europe and Africa and he killed his mentor.
If anything they kept him in character.
>>334916261
It's not about him being cold-blooded, it's about him being overly serious and not having any of his sarcasm or general attitude like he did in 3. But you're right, Forsaken was happening during that time.
>Asscreed 4
>You play as a Ubisoft employee developing Asscreed 4
Is Black Flag the most meta game?
>>334900991
At the risk of sounding like a wanker, here's my take.
The Templars are cunts. They just are, they're whole "super peace at the cost of a few personal freedoms" modus operandi's OK and we saw in Rogue and a few other games that not all Templars are mustache twirling psychopaths who want to rule the world. Some of them are people who genuinely care about the common man and believe "Control" is the best way to achieve world peace and a happier existence for everyone. However, their credo definitely attracts more despots and tyrants than the Assassins. Hence the mustache twirliness of most of the game's bosses. When you're organization wants to control people doing it ethically is probably too much work for most of them due to the aforementioned mustache having.
So despite knowing where the Templars are coming from I'd have to side with the Assassins based purely on the knowledge that even though a few of them may have the best of intentions, most of them would full on reeducate me and have me be a drone for their psychopomp pseudo utopia.
THAT BEING SAID
The Assassins are a bit shit too. Their whole thing is freedom, which is great, I can get behind that but what does an Assassin run world look like? Everyone has freedom, awesome. But like....there'd still be rules...otherwise some fuckers would definitely take advantage, and some fuckers still will.
So the Assassins just assassinate the folks who don't agree with them, just like now. But at that point they've basically become the badguys because their just murdering any dissenting voice so it doesn't disturb their free utopia. Ironic though that may be.
Mainly the Assassins exist just to stop the Templars, and whilst the Templars are around the Assassins are definitely the moral choice, even if they do big up gang violence and organised crime, at least they won't lobotomize your children. But without the Templars to fight the Assassins have no plan and they'd become almost as bad.
>>334916363
But here did have that general attitude of when you meet him as playing Connor.
>>334916421
cont.
They'd end up creating a shadow dictatorship, where any voice that wasn't there's was cut down in the middle of the night out of fear of a Templar resurgence.
I guess my answer, edgy though it may seem. Is that I'd be an Assassin, right up to the point where the Templars were destroyed for good, then I'd do everything in my power to destroy the Assassin's whilst they were still weak from the final battle.
Frankly the planet could do without both organizations, they're fucking poison. They wreck whole countries with their bullshit and they both still have the gall to pretend they're in the right. Fuck the both of them.
Templars are worse but not by enough, take they down, then wreck the assassins from within. Boom, safer world for everyone.
>>334916421
Fucking hell I should have proofread this, I apologize for the grammatical fuck ups. I'm usually good at it, I swear.
>>334916468
He was serious and cold-blooded when he was with Connor the first time, but he was also sarcastic, overly-confident, and generally playful as well. In Rogue he has none of that, he's never joking around with Shay or anything, he's just by the books and completely serious in his tone 100% of the time.
Again though, Forsaken was happening during this time which is true, so it would be stewing in him as well, but even when they go after Achilles he's still just crazy serious about everything when he wasn't just that.
>>334916776
To be fair he might have just, on a primal level, liked being around his son more. Shay was just some guy from work.
He loved Connor, in his own way sure, but love was there, showing is softer side was part of that I guess. None of that for Shay.
>>334916908
Fair point, he was extremely professional with the other Templars in 3 as well now that I Think about it.
>>334900991
Templars
>>334916380
it's the most shit game, that's for sure. those parts were the moment i shut off the game and never touched it ever again
>>334901762
this, it's like choosing between the freemasons or the illuminati
can I play rogue before black flag? does it have any overlapping plot elements or even small references? or does rogue meta/present story picks up right after BF?
>>334900991
Templars, glorious warriors controlling humans.
Instead of silly sand niggers crossed with hippies talking about freedom and shutting down the system.
Fact: if the assassins were in control we would have no video games, no internet, just fucking killing each other in the name of allah
>>334900991
I'm a free thinker, I'm not bound to stupid religious gropus that worship ancient gods.
Muh first will
living inside a computer so I can worship a sentient god AI. sounds good to me.
>>334917981
Rogue is a sequel to Black Flag. Like, the story takes place directly after and you even meet main characters from BF in it. Same deal with present day in it. AC3 takes place after it storywise for the past, but present day is before Black Flag.
>>334900991
Would you even know that they exist?
assassins had weed and grills
templars are basically a gay satanic bathhouse
>>334901762
This, both sides should just fuck right off
>>334900991
Templars
the templars, one I dont have to hide in a cave, two lods of emone, three free vidya, four deus vault, five sweet ring
>>334908805
2,3 Rev, and 4 are godtier, 1 is decent, and 3 is awful. Haven't played the rest.
>>334909530
Just buy the collection, it's cheap anyway, plus muh physical
>>334910470
It's got probably the best mission design in the series, outside of the tailing missions.
>>334920968
>3 Rev
>god tier
nope
>>334910556
I'm glad revelations touches on that, why does it got such a bad rep? I thought it was a fantastic game.
i stopped playing after 2 but i remember some shit about the sun going supernova or some shit. what ever happened with that?
>>334914053
No, that's why I merged with Helios.
>>334912168
4 wisely had basically it's own self contained story, other than that anything after the Ezio trilogy is awful.
>>334921291
I guess the badguys weren't batshit enough ike the Borgias? That and tower defense, but honestly I just did that the firt obligatory part then forgot it.The big bad is pretty chill and yet you help his batshit brother into power because "hey at least he's not a templar right?"
Hookblade movement mechanics were fucking neat.
>>334913849
You kill that Oliver guy from Black Flag in Watch Dogs but I think Ubisoft stated that was just them having a bit of fun and non canon. Rogue has a character heavily imply he either went into hiding or killed himself after he found out the truth about the Templars.
>>334912654
Which if they bring backJuno,it could actually happen
>>334910817
Unpopular opinion but Unity is my fav. I fucking LOVE France and the revolution. I know how to speak French and I gotta say the game is pretty amazing when you have language set to it.
English everyone just sounds cockney "ooiii, sum feeeef dun stol mie peerrrsee". There were some faults graphically, but I picked it up after all the patches so it was smooth enough for me.
>>334909550
They already established in the Ezio games that every major player in WW2 including Hitler was a Templar.
>>334910817
>>334916776
Am I the only one who thought Haytham felt like an "evil" Ezio?
>>334922279
He acts nothing like him.
>>334918124
The assassin ideology is really about that of Solidus.
Templars because it's easier than being an assassin.
>>334921270
Oops didn't mean the 3 with it, but no i really think revelations is awesome, i liked istanbul and its crowdedness.
>>334900991
Templars and Assassins are real and still here with us, but under other name. Who are they?I like the idea of USA and ISIS
>>334921767
Ezio at that point was kinda single minded, but he was starting to age too. Reminded me of old snake in a way. Plus bard mission.
Every Ass Creed game since 3 has been gradually making the Assassins look like incompetent assholes and having the Templars do literally nothing wrong because their big evil scheme was foiled ages ago and they've been twiddling their thumbs since then.
The goddamn Black Flag team is making the next AC and is set in Ancient Egypt.
It's like a dream come true, I've always wanted this. Suddenly I don't give a fuck about Ass Creed in China anymore, even though that would be pretty cool as well. Hopefully they'll make an ancient trilogy like the leaker implied. Ancient Egypt, Rome, Greece, damn. And with the same protagonist please, I'm sick of having a new one every time. Let us bond with the character, like with Ezio.
>>334922307
Kinda sarcastic, witty at times, both have a tendancy to be ruthless for different reasons. I didn't like haytham though at all, he was a colossal douchebag to me.
>>334922560
I think bonding with ezio is why the ezio trilogy is so highly regarded.
>>334921202
I liked Black Flag, but about 90% of the missions were fucking tailing missions. Even when the mission put you on a boat and you thought things were gonna get good, nope, you've gotta sail about fifty feet behind another boat. Because everyone knows that a tall ship can't see a brig from fifty feet away.
>>334922673
That's exactly what it is. I really loved Edward and Altair, but they've overdone it with the new character every new game schtick. They need to a trilogy with a character again.
>>334922760
Yeah some of those were bizarre, like are they totally retarded? i liked the freeform stealth though, where it didn't feel like you were shoehorned into a specific path like in 3.
>>334922770
I haven't played rogue, unity, or syndicate yet, but i've heard the characterization in those 3 are terrible.
>>334900991
Templars ofc.
It is widely known that you play as the bad guys in Assassins Creed.
Everytime you kill a target you have a conversation where they justify their actions, while you merely spout some random crap about "Freedom cannot be achieved through force" or whatever.
>>334923179
they are
>>334913013
You should play as an FBI agent in it with an imaginary friend
>>334923862
Why don't they make an assassin's creed game during the early cold war, in east germany.
>>334900991
Revelations made the Assassins look like tools.
"Of course. And when things fall apart, and the lights of civilization dim, Ezio Auditore can stand above the darkness and say proudly, 'I stayed true to my Creed."'
>>334925270
In some ways that's admirable though, that he's not willing to abandon the convictions he has.
AC3 showed that the Assassins are chasing a admirable but unrealistic dream. The Templars can achieve their goals. It's one reason why I like the game. It finally really showed how flawed the Assassins are. So I guess the Templars, but only if they are like they are in AC1 and AC3. They area bunch of asshats in AC2 thru Rev.
>>334925573
His convictions are dogshit. The whole point that guy was trying to make is that when Nationalistic ideologies come to a head in the modern world, it could very well destroy civilization, or at the very least halt/negate its progress. "Liberty can be messy, Ahmet. But it is priceless." That's literally all this fucker could say, and not once have the Templars ever implied that they would dictate every personal aspect of a person's life. They just want globalization to become a full-fledged reality.
>>334925270
Rogue was even worse.
They delibaretly made the Assassins fucking idiots, like actual fucking retards, to make Templars appear like really chill and good uncles.
>>334925917
I agree with ezio though, i don't ever want true globalization.
>>334925638
AC2/Brotherhood templars are pretty much only the Borgia who are batshit insane.
And the guy in charge of the templars in Revelations was pretty alright, the one really big faggot was the fat guy who they were using to get funds.
>>334926014
Then I don't know what to say to you, man. Both concepts are flawed, but at least one side can half-ass defend theirs.
>>334916078
Is that an 8 in Vivian's hair?
What the fugg
>>334900991
Honestly I can't even tell you what each is about anymore. It was fairly straightforward in 1 and 2 but since then they sound more and more similar. I genuinely have no idea how the Assassins are all "anything is permitted" with how neutered the characters are by their leadership. They are never allowed to do anything until shit gets out of control.
And the Templars? They never seem to have an especially tight grip on anything. Even Abstergo. People go in and play characters but nobody monitors them much apparently. Huge security breaches go unnoticed for a long time and when they crack down they just fumble around until they catch someone in the act.
The meta in the series has really shit the bed the last few games. Which is fine, I never cared to begin with. I just enjoy exploring historical settings. But if Ubi wants it to matter they need to get some focus again.
>>334926014
>he doesn't want to live in Star Trek
Fuck you buddy.
>>334925961
>That one French sailor who is nothing but an absolute dick to Shay the entire time, even when you're chasing him to kill him.
>The American Indian who is also nothing but a dick to Shay the three times you meet him.
>They force you to kill the ailing Washington after he says stuff about how his life was right and how he doesn't fear anything on top of saying he didn't want his son in the Templar/Assassin mess.
>Shay has just been on a trip for months absolutely pissed after the absolute destruction of the one city.
>Rushes in to bitch out Achilles and explain what happened as soon as he lands and why Achilles didn't tell him what happened(Which Achilles truthfully didn't know and he told him as such)
>Achilles immediately brings up rank and every single person in the room is like "What in the hell is this moron doing?" to Shay's shouting.
>They're all immediately ready to murder Shay expecting his betrayal to the point that there's Assassins lying in wait everywhere around the Davenport manor.
>Achilles only realizes his mistake moments before the end of the game.
Meanwhile, as soon as you betray.
>Colonel guy puts you up in the Templar-sympathizing house who are nothing but kind to you.
>Colonel is basically saying "Aren't we amazing Shay? Look at how kind we are!"
>Gist sucks up to you right until Shay gets inducted into the Templar Order, at which point he does a 180 and tells you he would have murdered you where you stood if you had a hint of betraying them.
>>334926612
And this is why Shay and Rogue in general suck.
Rogue is overrated here, I've seen some people even saying it's the best.
It doesn't hold a candle to Black Flag in ANY fucking department.
>>334926428
I haven't followed along since Black Flag, has anybody from Ubi explained how solar flares/CMEs can literally rip the Earth in half?
>>334927521
Because it's a videogame were ancient aliens created the humans and the last of them currently lives on the internet.
