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Meme makers are the ultimate balancer for online 4v1 invasions and such. Just toss down a soapstone and make peace with whatever side has the least amount of players. If there is a scrub host trying to run around with 2 phantoms, turn against him. MEME MAKERS WILL BALANCE DARK SOULS 3.
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>balance
>implying I don't always just help kill the red phantom first just to piss them off even more
if I can kill a few blues while I'm at it that's just a bonus
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>Looking forward to joining this covenant before release
>Game gets released
>Miss covenant completely
>Twice
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Oh look, it's the never getting summoned after first month covenant.
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>>334891198
>purple
>putting down summon sign
you're doing it wrong, friend
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>>334890956
>Not helping invaders kill the host

You're doing it wrong.
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They need to fix the covenant. Currently there's no real incentive for summoning purple phantoms over other ones. Either make it so they can be summoned while the host doesn't have an ember or give bonus souls/embers/etc for using a purple phantom.
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>>334891198
I put down summons at road of sacrifices and farron keep and get summoned regularly.

Same with the catacombs for some reason.
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>>334890602
>Use the soapstone
>Host immediately tries to kill me or runs from me and eventually kills themselves.

All I wanna do is be a normal phantom that helps you through the zone and gets rewarded if you end up being a dip and dying.
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>>334891334
Well if they put down a red soapstone vertibros can still help the host while not aggroing enemies. That is if the host trusts them enough to not attack them when they try to make peace.
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>>334890602
why would anyone ever summon a moundmaker? They are just white phantoms that can (and will) betray and kill you. Invading as a moundmaker is exactly the same as invading as a red except now the mobs will annoy you.
There should be some incentive and risk in summoning them, such as moundmakers having ember form health, or having a higher sl/weapon bracket. That way they are better than summoning a white, but also have a downside that they can try to fucking kill you.
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>>334891390
Cemetery of crosses or whatever that bonfires called near the crabs always gets me summoned if I throw down my sign. Usually it turns into a shitfest of Host+Bluefags/whitefags vs furries vs invaders vs meme makers
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>>334891521
Oh man i want to try this.
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>>334891429
> Invading as a moundmaker is exactly the same as invading as a red except now the mobs will annoy you.

you don't get attacked by enemies if you invade as mound maker, only if you use the white sign soapstone.

Also it's a lot easier to win as moundmaker compared to red phantoms because you can win by killing other phantoms OR the host, so you have more options
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Hardly anyone summons in NG+ though :(
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>>334891615
Probably cause NG+ is lame as shit this time around.
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>>334891615
>being in NG+ already
most people have lives so maybe in a week or two you will get summoned
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How do you prevent niggas from sliding around when you invade? Only time they don't slide is if they invade me.
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>>334891810
Pray.
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>>334891810
turn off cross-region matchmaking
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>>334891673
>Souls fanbase are literal normalfags
What happened?
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>>334890602

>play as red, always 4 V 1 gankfests
>Decide to try playing as purple
>1st summon host fights 1 V 1
>2nd summon spawn in the middle of dungeon have to fight my way to host
>3rd summon, play PvE Coop with host until invasion
>One invasion leads to another
>2 red (I swear to god 2 reds in the same game), a blue, and the host in the middle of an angry mob of npc mobs
> 2 V 2 V 1 V Mob ensues
>I'm playing Grape escape
>You always win as long as you kill somone
>Most hosts are fun because they expect a wildcard

Why didn't you fags tell me it was so fun to be a grapeist. Jesus christ fuck being a red, purple is where it's at.
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>Invading in Ithryl valley with the xanthous crown, the dusk dress and a pitchfork
>The host + phantoms still try to kill me regardless

How do I make my joke invasions better?
Where do I get the mimic chest head?
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>>334891917
Thanks, but looks like it's already been off all the time
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>>334892080
Remember, you can fuck people over by drawing mobs towards you with the atonement spell.

This works insanely well in the catacombs if you do it right.
You can get like 20 fucking skeletons to show up on that bridge.
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>invading as sunbro in post-pontiff pvp area
>find host at starting area
>he bows
>I bow
>we fight
>pretty good fight, he has a phantom that is just sitting there watching
>no estus chugging
>no running to mobs
>no ganking
>just fight

>about halfway through the fight, 2 blue sentinels pop in at once
>immediately attack me without warning
>host can't do anything, he and is summon aren't attacking and are seemingly try to calm blues down but they can't get rid of blues
>die
When you are going to pvp, don't be in fucking way of blue. idiots.
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>>334892107
>That feel when the Avarice hat kills me too fast for a good joke invasion

I usually just run around naked in Xanthous crown and spam "HELLO" while kicking shit.
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>>334892307
>host can't do anything, he and is summon aren't attacking and are seemingly try to calm blues down but they can't get rid of blues
Thats hilarious. Literally the no fun police.
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>>334892307
I exclusively target blues when I invade as a purplefag.

Fuck them and their broken covenant.
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>>334892080

Also
>Summoned
>Host + Sunbro ready to slap my shit
>I make friendly with them
>They start toward the boss door
>They probably don't realize I cannot enter with them
>Try madly to get their attention, they just keep going for the door
>WELP
>Host enters fog
>Backstab and instakill sunbro, his body falls through the fog door as the boss battle begins

I wonder how that turned out.
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>>334891615
What platform you playing on? There's tons a invaders during my late game NG++ run on PS4? If anything, it could just be no one's on or people are actually taking their time with the game.
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>Invade as purple
>It's already a 2x1
>Cast Warmth
>People dance around my flame all day
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Why does every god damn host think I'm going to kill them?

IM TRYING TO DEFEND YOU FROM PHANTOMS
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>>334892694
I'm on PS4, and I'm at Johnny Cash's lake of fire. Put a good 40 hours in already, I've been spending lots of time seaching for everything, fighting everything, and tons of PvP stuff. Usually I'll Coop/PvP and then spend the souls on items so I don't over level.

Shits fun yo.
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>invade as crazy purple man
>host tries to gank squad me
>3 other crazy purple men immediately join the instance
>host+3 spirits vs 1 vs 1 vs 1 vs 1
that was fucking hilarious
too bad i ruined it all by parry stabbing the host to death
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>>334891334
Or maybe having a purple phantom doesn't increase your PvP priority like normal phantoms would.
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What does invading as a Moundmaker actually do? Does it prioritize worlds with a lot of people or what, and where's the most chaotic zones for PVP?
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>>334893048
it's exactly like invading as any other covenant except you can hurt/can be hurt by all types of spirits
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>tfw addicted to the PvP in this game

I found it shit in other Souls game but I feel this game hit the sweet spot.

Just going to finish farming those silver knights before I start a full PvP build.
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>>334893048
>What does invading as a Moundmaker actually do?
Grapebros whether summoned or invaded will always be hostile to mobs, but they will also complete their task if a invader/phantom dies.
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>>334893381
invading moundmakers are not hostile to npc mobs
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>>334891673
I go to college full time, have a part time job, and hang out with friends/co works almost every day. I also have a gf

I've beaten the game 3 times. No excuse.
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>>334890602
I already killed the tree and I just helped Sirris kill the bridge monster, but I don't see her summon sign in the pit anywhere? I've pretty much completed the game minus the final boss and haven't spent any tongues, I even just got the ring from her. Am I screwed somehow?
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>Invade
>Have to deal with ganksquads 99% of the time
>Grape invade
>Host is by themselves 50% of the time, and the other half they only have one phantom
Fucking grapes hogging all the good invasions.
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>>334893048

Don't invade ever

Use the soapstone

Basically it's the world vs. you. Everything can hurt you, your only goal is to kill either a phantom(any color) or the host. It's a wildcard covenant, you never know what the fuck is going to happen. Shit gets hilarious as you're fighting both for and against the host.

When using the soapstone the summon priority doesn't get fucked up, and you usually end up with hosts that aren't too rigid in their gameplay, so it tends to be more fun.

Usually you will spawn somewhere ahead of the host though, since you're purple the dungeon mobs are actually hostile toward you so be prepared when you spawn in.
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Why not just make the summon sign look like a normal summon?

Lay on by the bonfire, people think they are summoning a normal person, bampf your purple ass shows up.

Also I've only seen 1 purple summon sign the whole time i've been playing.
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>>334893597
The problem with red invasions is that priority is given to hosts with friendly phantoms. This means you will at the very least be down 2V1, WoB will auto summon a blue which typ puts you at 3V1. Since not many people are having fun playing as red, you rarely ever get another red bro to help you against the hordes.

When you play purple the host knows what they are getting into. Suddenly you're not paired up with Coop babbys who are offended you dared to invade them, and the whole online gets infinitely more enjoyable.
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What are the pvp zones
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>>334894043
Being red wouldn't be so bad if the npc enemies somehow appropriately scaled with the number of phantoms. The problem is that the progression is very clearly tailored to one player. So when you have multiple players they litterally just clear-cut the world. Once you take away the fear of the world you have a 3 v 1, which you will almost always lose due to how easy it is to get stunlocked by that many enemy players.
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>Grape with phantom ring
>help host to reach far after killing mops with him
>host get jumped by 2-3 mobs including me
Idk what that senpai was expecting
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>Only 5 Vertebra away from Warmth

Finally I can stop being a mad phantom and start being a glad phantom.
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>>334894474
>Lure the gank into mobs
>Mobs are blown away immediately
>Use the opportunity to attack somebody
>Forced stunlock break. Target rolls away
>You just dove into the gank, enjoy your stunlock
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>>334894806
Holy shit, I'm only five away too! All the gank squads! All the 4v1 cheese fighting! It'll all be worth it when I finally max the covenant.
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>>334895132
Exactly. Noone can say reds can "use the mobs" because the mobs and the levels are not designed for coop play.

There's a reason many games have a split coop and singleplayer mode, because they need to have a different balance.

The best part is if you even bring up how boring coop is because how easy it is people will just straw man the "reds cry lik ebabbys when they dont get muh honoruabu samurai duel." Do people really have fun by breezing through the game without any challenge?
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>>334890602
>grapes can't enter boss fog
For what purpose?
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>>334890602
>mememaker

The PC playerbase needs to be wiped from the earth.
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>>334896556
Oh yes, because only the PC players got that covenant, right?
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>>334896375
Maybe to keep you from fucking up their boss attempt? I can imagine a lot of people backstabbing the host when they're close to finishing for shits and giggles.
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Blue Sentinels should be able to put down a blue summon sign that would allow a host to summon for regular coop and if a red phantom shows up blue can fuck his shit for the covenant, but if not its just a regular coop session. As it is right now Blue Sentinels is fucking dead.

side note: Anyone else disappointed with pic related? Its a shit sword that can't cast miracles despite having "cleric" in the name and it can't self buff itself. I was hoping it would make a good weapon for my spellsword but its just a clusterfuck (its ability is weak too, would have been ok if it was in bloodborne as there were a lot of dark places that needed light, but lighting in DaS3 is fucked).
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>>334894806
too bad its a shit spell.
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>be Farron Watchdog
>killed pontif
>step out, get invaded by aldrich faithful
>lure him to arena away from mobs
>start fighting, evenly matched
>another aldrich faithful invades
>new guy comes in and backstabbs, almost dead
>manage to get away and heal, first faithful backs off so i can 1v1
>kill new invader, fight old one
>get invaded again by another faithful

>rinse and repeat for 6 times, all done in wolf knight armor with wold knight greatsword

>Aldrichs face when he is a fuckboi and his faithful are shit

Watchdog master race, shame i can't get something for killing people not in the forest
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Would like to see fewer covenants (maybe 4-5) and have each given its own phantom color. I think it would foster more pride and prejudice among the player base. Each covenant would have an area it calls its home base and would be auto summoned to defend it from invaders while also having unique objectives and traits for coop and invasion.
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>>334891334
reds should be able to summon purples
there should be a bonus to killing host as to give purples incentive to help out host
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>>334898796
i mean incentive for purples to kill host
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>>334892307
>host can't do anything
Black Sign Soapstone those blues the fuck out of there.
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>>334898887
>>334898796
no incentive needed. purples are mad men, there is no method. Reds summoning purps is a good idea though, would add to the madness.
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>>334892307
I didn't think anyone actually used Way of Blue. I've been running all over as a blue sentinel and haven't been called once. I'm only level 24 but I've been hanging out at the Undead Settlement and Road of Sacrifices and its been lonely.
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>>334899270
i actually got summoned a few times at cathedral of the deep. i dont know why its not just 1 covenant and a special ring to wear the toggles auto summoning like DS1
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>>334899376
>i dont know why its not just 1 covenant and a special ring to wear the toggles auto summoning like DS1
I was thinking the same thing. Would have made things so much easier.
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GOD FUCKING DAMMIT FROM, JUST ADD A BLUE EYE ORB AND MAKE DARKMOON AN ACTUAL COVENANT. FUCK YOU ALDRICH
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>>334891130
Same here. Fucking sucks.
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>>334890602
>tfw no one summons me to bro it up

God damn it, i like the idea so much but no one fucking summons mad phantoms
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