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Lore thread because the other one is auto-saging
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inb4 vaati steals all this lore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz8KJYpRh28
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So I know great souls get recycled, does that mean Solaire's soul wasn't all that great? He hasn't returned.
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Also, why the fuck were 2 of the Darkwraiths waiting at the doors of the Artorios building?
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>>334872380
He was just a warrior.
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>>334872380
Solaire is still alive senpai
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>>334872460
What made Onion bro so great then?
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Where did Gundyr get his championship belt?
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>>334872293
where is the proof?
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>>334872293
Can't he be bothered to speak coherently? That fake lisp is fucking terrible.

>>334872525
Siegward =/= Siegmeyer
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>>334872293
Stop shilling your stupid fucking video you dumb cuck
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>>334872512
He's a peepee poopoo bird now.
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>>334872548
He took it, by force, from the Undertaker in a Hell in a Cell match this saturday night on RAW
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>>334872525
He was the true "quest" of DaS1, DaS3 onionbro is his descendat and has a somewhat important context in DaS3 too i think
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why is there a fucking painting of Nashandra and the throne of the iron king in in Annor Londo?
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Top 3 bosses
1. Nameless King
2. Street fighter 2 turbo Champion Gundyr
3. Soul of Cinder
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>They actually care about the lore in these games

Enjoy your endless debates of purposefully obscure information.
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>>334872596
well maybe compared to your lisp it's no good
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>>334872779
Did you want a little more time to work on that one? You can do better.
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>>334872753
1. Giant tree
2. Ice dog
3. thats as far in the game that I have gotten
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>>334872703
Some Deacons of the Deep found them and probably thought they'd look comfy?
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>>334872753
only correct list tbqh family
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>>334872753
Soul of Cinder
CHAMP
Lady Maria's beautiful baby boy who likes to pretend he's Guts and who doesn't get along with his peers.
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>>334872753
I loved deacons tho even if it's shitty after the first time in gets you for good when you first enter the room
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>>334872770
>Enjoy your endless debates of purposefully obscure information.
Its similar to archaeology anon and exploration.
People love to consider meanings, implications and history. Mystery is naturally intriguing.
Otherwise we wouldn't be a successful human species.
But you do seem to go against that trait.
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>>334872770
its ok anon its not for everyone
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>>334872770
>endless debate of purposefully obscure information
So? Do you understand that is what people have been doing when it comes to great art since forever ago? There are still people out there that argue about Hamlet m8. But I understand in the dawn of Hollywood you need everything spoonfed to your little babby mouth.
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>>334872770
Killing that dragon by jumping on his head was pretty sweet too
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>>334872753
>Literally the embodiment of everyone who played Dark 1
>Cycling between a ton of different weapons
>Wrath of God
>Power Within
>Fucking Dark Wood Grain Ring flip
>Refills his health bar and turns into the Gwyn fight that Gwyn should have been

I can't think of a better way to end the series. It was a perfect fight in every conceivable way.
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>>334872770
I do, now go and shitpost in one of the "Litterally impossible :^)" threads
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>>334872401
they got nothing to do the darkwraith biss is dead
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>>334872753
the only bad thing about nameless king is that killing him will make all the other bosses seem fucking easy
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>>334873502
>Kaathe
>dead

calling it now; he's in Londor and we'll meet him in the DLC
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>>334873460
He's the only final boss in this series that is legitimately awesome.
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To all those who think Aldritch didnt eat Nito, take a look at the end of his staff. It's the Gravelord Great Sword.
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>>334873621
how many DLCs are we getting? those DS2 DLC were pretty sizable
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>>334873621
oh my fucking god, GIMME THAT
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>>334873502
Doesn't the Darkwraith slut even mention Kaathe?

Or do I mix up the lore with Vaaties ramblings again?
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>>334873718
You can get that in DaS1 and it doesn't mean he doesn't have 1 too when you fight him you dummy
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>>334873829
Yeah but that huge ass gravelord sword was Nitos fuckin arm. There isn't any other way to get one looking like that.
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>first time up against Abyss Watchers
>kill the main guy easily
>get fire guy down to about 15% health
>die
>try again 10 times
>half the time die to the regular gank squad
>never get the fire guy down to even 50%
What the fuck? I have been making literally zero progress with this boss so far. All of the others were piss easy.
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>>334873741
2 were announced
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>>334872401

We can assume the legion fight with the darkwraiths so I figured they were going there to finish off the legion while they were weak.
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>>334873936
get out of their range senpai they attack each other two just focus on the first one
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>>334873936
Summon people.
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>>334873936

I find a weird thing in Dark Souls where the first time I try something I do really well and then each time after that I get progressively shittier until I try cheese tactics
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Who is farron and why is it associated with Astorias? I would get if it was Sif but you know
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>>334872293
Me and DaveControlLive worked on a lore vid together a year ago and he stole our whole theory and uploaded it right after ours.
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>>334873460
When he started to flip, I had the biggest grin on my face. One of my favorite boss fights in the souls games.
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>The last, uncorrupted Abyss Watcher must stand his guard forever against his brethren as they continue to rise every time the Bells of Awakening ring, for that is his duty
>The Chosen Undead actually awoke Gwyn in DS1 by ringing both bells

But my questions
>What is the "Deep", will we explore it in DLC, just how bad is it compared to the Abyss?
>What is Londor's stake in all of this? Why did they want the Unkindled One to usurp the flame?
>Does this game's existence and lore mean that in DS1 the Link the Fire ending was canon, and that the CU never fought Gwyndolin?
>So if Brolaire wasn't Gwyn's firstborn erased from the annals of history, who was he? Just someone who wished to be as incandescent as the sun, or something else entirely?

One thing I dislike about DS3 is it removed a lot of the ambiguity of DS1 and made certain choices and stuff "canon"
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>>334873936
The 2 that come later attack the dude with
red eyes, that's why you see them fighting in the cutscene. You just get in between their slap festival and get bitchslapped
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>>334873956
Post your face when you see the name of the final boss of the final DLC: The Furtive Pygmy
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>>334873936
The biggest edge you can give yourself in his second phase is to just have patience. You'll be surprised how easy it is to dodge his attacks if you just stay back. Hit him during obvious openings
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>>334873460
>tfw didn't get to see all this crap because I killed him really easily
seriously fuck nameless king he made me git gud
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>>334873936
Learn how to roll through his attacks and run away the moment you notice another watcher getting up so they fight each other, keeping awareness of the other guys is the key here.

In phase 2 keep on rolling and backstab his ass and hit him until he's on his feet again.
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>>334874340
>wanting to fight combo wombo dark man again
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So, there is a dead dragon in the High Wall zone. Its body seems to be releasing ashes. Any time a dragon has ever died its body always turned into energy, and they have hard scales that wouldn't just ash up for no reason. infact, the only thing ashes seem to be synonymous with in DS3 is Undead risen by the bell. They are always releasing ash and cinders.

Does that mean the undead curse is now afflicting dragons? Or perhaps there were dragons who linked the flame in ages past?
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>>334874495
Did you say combo?
CAN YOU SMELLLLL WHAT GUNDYR IS COOKING?
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>>334873621
>we'll finally get to see the full body of a primordial serpant
it's just a hand that's a bit past where their model ends
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>>334874629
Those arent ancient dragons dummy.
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>>334874629
sick fashion m8, mind telling me the armor pieces?
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>>334874340
>find a broken crown in the area before
>beat cursed bearer boss
>Aldia shows up after

Please From, you bought back Andre, you don't give two shits.
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>>334874629
obviously, the flame is the spark of creation/ aka god aka baby jesus
now we all know jesus was black
therefor, dragons that know about jesus get ashy like a black person in the winter
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>>334874312
ds2 tells us that even if you choose to not link the fire. Someone else will come along, kick your ass and link it instead.
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>>334874629


>mfw just realized that I beat the game without ever getting pyromancy
also they are wyverns
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>>334874681
Could the Champ beat Mike Lient: BBBRRRROOOOOOCCCCCKKKKKK LLLEEEESSSSSSNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRR?
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>>334874781
Yeah, but the Soul of Cinder fight having a lot of connections with a Chosen Undead (and assumed to be your Chosen Undead) makes me think the Link the Fire ending is meant to be canon, especially since we don't see a lot of stuff that suggests the Dark Lord ending ever was canon
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>>334873594
>Most DS3 fights feel easy after beating the BB DLC
Bloodborne bosses are fucking tanky as hell.
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>Beat Dragonslayer Armour
>Start noticing the weird flying things around Lothric Castle
>Read the Dragonslayer Armour's Soul description, realize they're called Pilgrim Butterflies, immediately make the connection
>Rush back to the bridge outside Undead Settlement where all the dead pilgrims are
>They're all NOT hatching into butterflies or even already cracked open and discarded
What the fuck, From? That would have been the coolest shit ever.
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>>334874792
The lothric items describe them as drakes which, unless im mistaken, are just yung dragons
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>>334874915
>>334874781
the ending for DS:SotFS edition is intended to be that you get the merged crown from king vendrick and your character it healed and can return to his old life and generally doesn't give a shit about the flame
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>>334873704
What about Gerhman?
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>Nameless King (humanoid) + Storm Drake (scaly, furry, matte skin) = Priscilla

>Gwyn (humanoid) + Seathe (neck tentacles, scaleless, iridescent skin) = Yorskha
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>>334874998
what? nigga the dlc shit was easy, the chalice dungeon bosses were the true bitches. Even then its been so long since I did them that I don't think it affected me. They are fucking tanky though, my weapon looked like it should be doing a shit ton of damage but it never did
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>>334873785
Yeah, she does when you kill her. I know because I managed to fuck up every NPC questline on my first playthrough except Siegward's.
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>>334875047
remember the valley of drakes in DaS 1? Drakes, Dragons, Wyverns are all different here
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>>334874998
>Bloodborne bosses are fucking tanky as hell.

if you keep on top of weapon upgrades and gems, they're not so bad

if you've ever seen someone BL4 run through bosses at NG+7 they still do 1500 damage with a full charge attack because korean gems are not to be underestimated
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>>334875094
Moon Presence. Gehrman and False King Allaint were great but they're not the final bosses.
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>>334875154
>Bloodletting Beast
>HMPH HMPH
>WHAMMU Beast
>Defiled Amy
>Isz Ebby
>Hot Doge
That was true hell, specially without good gems.
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>>334875013
there are hollows turning into pilgrim butterflies in Lothric castle. There's a bunch of hollows worshipping them near that ash monster on the roof.
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>>334874312
The ambiguity of Solaire being the firstborn of Gwyn was rabid fanboy shit in the first place.

He was just a good man, maybe even the best man but why do people have to make him a son of a god and not notice how he simply can't be? He could get brainwashed by a maggot and even his would be faggot brother would be bigger than him, hell even silver knights. It's a fact that Gwyn and family were simply greater than man. Pun intended.
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So what the hell was going on with the first boss turning to whatever the black blob was? and same with other hollows in the high wall?
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>>334872380
dlc 100% , the fanservice wont stop
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>>334874340

>darkstaalker kaithe boss trophy
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>>334872060
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCrW5C1uyyw

ashen one I'm ashen.
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>>334875363
Well, he was the final boss in by first playthrough and it was an excellent book end for the game.
>First boss is a veteran hunter
>Last boss is THE veteran hunter
it was great
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>>334874915
But the description of the Soul of Lords says that many many people have linked the flame since Gwyn did. That would explain for a start, how the Soul of Cinder is able to use so many different styles of attacks. So then it follows that even if your own Dark souls 1 chosen undead didnt link the flame, someone else came after you and did it just fine.

In that sense, it means that either ending in Das1 can be cannon, but that in the end it doesn't actually matter which one is because no matter what, the end result is the same.

Also h o l y shit I never thought From would be able to pull off a satisfying final boss fight, but fuck me in the ass if Soul of Cinder wasn't everything i'd ever hoped for.
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>>334875561
>kingseeker frampt boss trophy

I want my revenge on that DUPLICITOUS SERPENT
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>>334875196
Oh right, I did too, thanks for reminding me where I have heard that.
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Any wishes for the DLC? Any returning gear you would like to see? If this is gonna be the Harmony of Despair of the Souls series, might as well indulge in it.
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>>334875561
>>334875673
>both
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>>334875612
>Doing the fight as normal
>Think nothing of it
>Suddenly those small hints of piano notes
>"Is that what I think it is?"
>Song goes into full on Gwyn theme

The fact that the fight takes place in the Kiln of the First Flame after Anal Rodeo and all the other nostalgia bait, I got fucking chills
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>>334875741
Moonlight greatsword if its not there already, also more shit about the abyss or dragons
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>>334875363
I feel like Gehrman counts as the final boss, where Moon Presence is technically optional, because you can end the game right after Gehrman.

Although, maybe that would then make Mergo's Wet Nurse the final boss because you can also end the game right after her and that doesn't make any sense at all
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>>334874340
>It's a meager hollow at first sight but then he turns into Orphan of Kos on crack
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>>334875741
DLC that explores what the Deep is (beyond just being worse than the Abyss)

Maybe show us more of how Aldrich went from a man, to a God devouring monstrosity
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What was this ALdrich and the ocean bullshit I kept hearing about?
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So, it's pretty much confirmed that it will get DLC, and keeping with From tradition, the most important story elements will be in the DLC.

What do you think it will be? Personally I think it's going to be about how the fuck Anor Londo sank into a valley, and how a mountain came up to its side where there was a fucking drop off before.

Seriously, there's no way the terrain would change so drastically, but the city would remain intact. Either one or the other happens.
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Why did they have to pander so much? It is really annoying. This game may as well have been made by gearbox
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>>334874312
I think Gwyn's 1st born was the nameless king.
> stripped of his name/title because he fought alongside the dragons
> Uses lighting
> his swordspear resembles the weapon of the statue of the sunlight altair, which could have been a statue of him before it was destroyed
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>>334875860
>he doesn't change size or form, there's just dark spewing out of him that gets more intense as it goes on
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>>334875741
I want the OG armor in.
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>Pilgrims of Dark was never elaborated further
>You'll never explore the abyss
That was one of the genuinely cool parts of vanilla DS2.
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>>334876013
There is no thinking about it anon, the Nameless King IS Gwyn's firstborn
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>>334875972
>Pretty much comfirmed

I allready paid for that shit, it IS comfirmed
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>>334875972
>Seriously, there's no way the terrain would change so drastically, but the city would remain intact. Either one or the other happens.

I'm sure the terrain is similar. Lothric is built upon seathes archives.
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>>334876013
i would do a slowpoke joke but im too tired
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>>334875972

The terrain is shifting. Lothric just appeared one day, half of anor londo crashed into eleum loyce. You can see the wreckage of different cities collided at the kiln
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>>334875741
Personally I want to see the Manus/daughters of Manus storyline from Das2 finally wrapped up. I mean we're never going to get another chance, I need to fucking know more about it.
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>>334876135
I thought of that, but Seath's archives were no where near that big, and the precipice the archives sat on weren't that big either.
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>>334875382
Is that a JoJo reference
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>>334876003
It IS a sequel. It still doesn't hold a candle to Armored Core shenanigans.
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>>334875962
Aldrich is a tube worm that eats living gods and absorbs their souls

Eldritch is a term coined by HP Lovecraft to refer to the unknowable [not that the thing can't be known, but that it's logic is inhuman, so we can't comprehend it]

Lovecraft also had a fondness for shapeless tubeworm like monsters that could form any given array of snarling teeth, tendrils, or claws called shoggoths, as well as a litany of sea animal based elder gods
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>>334876160
This is interesting, but where are you getting this? Also where do you see Eleum Loyce? Aside from the snow that is.
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>>334876091
nothing will ever top fluted
I wanted to play a knight game and i got it with Demon's Souls
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>>334876249
>and the precipice the archives sat on weren't that big either.
I don't think you can see what Archives are sitting on in DaS can you?

Either way, it's close to where the old archives were which would explain why ocerios started poking around.
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>>334876256
Yeah, Abhorrent Beast starts doing storm punches when he heats up.
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>>334876160
those sideways cities didn't just collapse near the kiln
they were purposley up ended to feed the cities inhabitants to the kiln and prolong it's burning
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>>334876358
>fluted better than EK meme
When will it stop?
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>that sense of "holy shit" when you find Orsteins equipment on a body after the Nameless King fight

So Ornstein was the fake in Dark Souls 1, whereas Smough was the real one?

Also can someone explain to me the Dragonslayer Armour? Like what it is, is it related to Ornstein somehow?

And what the fuck were those whack ass skeletal dragon things flying around Londrick castle throughout the whole final chapter of the game?

And do Angels actually fucking exist? Do we ever find out what happened to the thing in the birdcage in the top of the Archives?
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>>334872380
He linked the flame.
I guess he is part of the Soul of Cinder now.
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I made a thread earlier but no one replied. How strong is the Ashen/Unkindled One compared to the previous Souls protags?
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>>334876504
>cloth and material and BELTS on a suit of armor

looks like shit m8
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>>334876358
>We'll never fix the missing Archstone and explore the Land of Giants.
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>Loyce sacrificed their whole city to contain their Chaos source
>Yhorm put that shit out BY HIMSELF
Why is Yhorm such a badass? You literally have to cheat him to stand a chance.
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>>334876461
I get the feeling that everything just got pulled in to the kiln, I don't know why people forget time and space are twisted in these games.
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>>334872460
but he seemed so much more than that
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>>334876586
Presumably the strongest if he can kill an amalgamation of every being to ever link the fire.
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So is everyone in this game basically fucking immortal? Seems like no one dies even when they are killed.
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>>334872293

this isn't funny, stick to twitter
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>>334876586
>powerlevel fags
demon souls protag is strongest because unlimited grass. There you go move on
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>>334874734
Looks like Cathedral Knight helmet, Xanthous Overcoat, Fallen Knight trousers and I think Northern Gloves?
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>>334876590
That's Dark Souls
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>>334876538
Pretty sure there was a whole company dedicated to dragon slaying. Ornstien, or someone pretending to be him probably just went up there to finish off the dragons and got kekd by Nameless
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>>334876160
>>334876461
you're both wrong, it's because who/whatever linked the flame last made it cause an explosion so large it OBLITERATED almost everything. the entire world outside of the kiln is an illusion sustained by the light
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>>334876538
the 3 winged knights on top of the archives are probably what was in that cage.
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>>334876586
Considering how he fights a being that is made up of the souls of everyone who has linked the fire, Gwyn's son and won the WWE World Heavyweight championship, he's probably the strongest
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WHY
IS
ANDRE
IN
DARK
SOULS
THREE

EXPLAIN THIS TO ME
IS HE A HOLLOW? HOW HAS HE LIVED FOR SO LONG WITHOUT GOING INSANE? WHAT IS THIS
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>>334876590
Technically, the land was called Northern Limit, and it was pretty much proto Eleum Loyce. They later change it to the Land of Giants to make it fit the setting. They broke the archstone because it's the land from where the Demons started to pour out after the Old One awoke.
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>>334876615
The chaos only lost because it has power over fire, not wind.
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>>334876817
he's undead senpai, they don't die
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So Soul of Cinder is your character in Das1

But I believe Lorthric Princes were descendants of your character in Das2 from when you took the throne.

I have literally no facts to back that shit up though.
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>>334874340
They already did that.
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>>334872293
Fucking stop shilling this unfunny garbage you master cuck, every lore thread some retard post this shit, and no one comments, guess why? It's awful, kill your self.
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>>334876590
It's actually kind of spooky in its present state.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA9c01YsEFM
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>>334876817
>IS HE A HOLLOW?
No, he's an undead. Undead in this game never die, and they never go hollow as long as they can find some purpose to live for.

>HOW HAS HE LIVED FOR SO LONG WITHOUT GOING INSANE?
He just loves smithing, man
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>>334876615
i don't get Yhorm exactly
he's not a GIANT giant, he's got a face inside the chainmail

so what is he? just a big dude? did he get so huge from all the souls he took? or having a great soul like Gwyn or Artorias, who are technically giant compared to the player
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>>334876265
A sequal is one thing, but just throwing stuff at the player that was really popular in the first is cheap.

I've never played Armored Core, sorry
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>>334876817
He did die the light firelink shrine isn't real
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>>334876735
thanks mate, i'll try it out
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>>334872770
It's ok if you're too dumb to get it. Not everyone can be smart.
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>>334876875
It's Gywn. the Chosen Undead, and everyone else who ever linked the flame. It's some sort of bizarre Captain Planet.
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>>334876091
The new knight class armor looks a lot like fluted, mixed a bit with Elite Knight.
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>>334876736
No you dolt, Dark Souls takes place on the landmass that was swallowed up in the colorless fog when the Old One broke out the first time

>>334876848
I know all about that. I still want muh giants damn it.
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>>334876590
just make a hd remake of demon souls and make it 60fps for fuck sake
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>>334876875
Soul of cinder is an amalgamation of every champion to link the fire, including Gwyn. Thats why the first phase moveset is so diverse, its cycling between the strengths of various champions (a sorceror, a spearman, a cleric, a pyromancer etc etc)

>But I believe Lorthric Princes were descendants of your character in Das2 from when you took the throne.
I like it
Shame its so fucking hard to link anything with Dark Souls 2 back to 3 and 1.
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>>334875047
no, drakes and dragons are different. the only Dragon's we've encountered are the Everlasting Dragon in Ashlake, Kalemeet, Seath, Sinh and the Ancient Dragon

everything else are Wyvern's or Drakes. Can't remember what the Gaping Dragon counts as though
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>>334872753
1. Super Gay Bros.
2. Nameless King
3. Soul of Cinder.
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>>334876935
>he's not a GIANT giant, he's got a face inside the chainmail

So do all the other giants in dark souls, because ds2 just doesn't count.
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>>334876935
Maybe Yhorm lit the flame before DK2 and was the king of those giants.
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>>334876875

can undead even have children though?

i still don't understand the concept... I think "undead" in the game are basically just a catch-all term for non-gods.
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WHAT THE FUCK IS UNKINDLED? IS IT A SPECIAL TYPE OF UNDEAD OR SOMETHING ENTIRELY ELSE?
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>>334876935
There's two kinds of giants, the more traditional giants like Gough, the Smith, and Yhorm, and then there's the "giants" as they were called by the Drangleic forces because there was no other name for them. The Seed of the Giants in DS3 just calls the three a "watcher tree".
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>>334876342

Profaned capital was built over eleum loyce. In game text mentions them used to worshipping an oracle (alsanna). Irithyl is built over profaned after Yhorm links the fire and it incinerates everything.

As for the shifting landmasses. Theres a quote I can't seem to find, but the High Walls of Lothric are specifically mentioned as appearing and cutting off access to the Undead Settlement.
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>>334876672
Sure. But he wasn't.
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>>334876935
He's a giant, but actually intelligent like gough. stormruler description says he was distrusted by humanseven though he gave everything to defend them(sound familiar?) and even gave one of their strongest warriors a weapon specifically to defeat his race in case they turned.
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>>334876935
>>334877140
Tbqh I feel like the "giants" in Das2 are a completely different race that were just misnamed as giants.

Like there is very clearly a distinction between the big fat giants of dark souls one and three, and the bizzare, wordless, faceless slender things of Dark souls 2. Honestly the giants in Dark Souls 2 kinda scared me a bit, they were fucking freaky
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>>334877282
SO I guess it was all memes huh?
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>>334877268

I don't know why, but seeing the corpse of the Giant Blacksmith in Anal Rodeo hit me. Fuck man.
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Question about hollowing and the secret ending.
If I cure my hollowing/curse will I fail the questline or do I only need the Dark Sigil?
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>>334876672
He was just a guy with an interesting personality and a fun little emote. Despite all the funposting that he was Gwyns forgotten firstborn, Solaire really was nothing but a normal guy obsessed with the sun.
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>>334877314
yeah i get that the DS1 giants have faces but are constantly obscured by masks and stuff, but i can't get over how similar they made him look to the DS2 variety of giants
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>>334877357
No, it's stated multiple times in every single game. He has ABSOLUTELY NO SUPERNATURAL PROWESS. He's just really really dedicated to his beliefs, so much so even when he's possessed by the chaos bug he doesn't mutate into a demon but believes hes accomplished his goal as a human.
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>>334877502

You need 8 dark sigils to get it. The five from Yoel and the 3 from Anri
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>>334877481
>andres sad little monolog when you give him the giants ember

oh man
they were buddies
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>>334877535
I think they just liked the design of the giant lord because it actually looks like what you'd expect a giant lord to look like.
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Who are the hollows and why should I give them the flame? what the hell can they do with it? its not like bringing the flame to your capital makes thing good
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Here's one I just discovered.
>Can see Drangleic on Demon's Souls map as a neighboring continent of Boletaria
>Gundyr's helmet despriction states that it was modeled after a former (old) king
>looks very similar to Old King Doran's
Dark Souls and Demon's Souls CONFIRMED to share the same world and Patches traveled from Boletaria to Lordran
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>>334877602
Cool. Is there any downside to being hollow?
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>>334877268
in fact, they must be different. The giants in ds2 turned into trees when they died, but Andre says the Giant Blacksmith probably died ages ago, and he's still just a corpse, not a branch in sight.
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>>334877260
In Das2 the opening cutscene shows your child and the mother so yeah they can.
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>>334877140
>Darksoils too doesn't count XD
Fuck off

>>334876935
I'd say those are different giants. And I'd really like to know if the nips had different names for the two sorts we've seen so far.
Vendrik did go full on genocide on the ones with a hole for a face and you actually meet/well kill their king too in one of the DS2 memories.
I guess Yhorm was the king of those human like giants you see in DS3 and DS1.
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>>334877692

being ugly
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>>334877687
how did patches turn to a spider and traveled to yharnam
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>>334877535
speaking of DS2 giants, do all of them turn into trees when they die or just under specific conditions?
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>>334877687
>Can see Drangleic on Demon's Souls map as a neighboring continent of Boletaria

No you can't you lying fuck
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>>334877535
The DS2 giants are literally tree people, they are fucking terrifying when you think about it. The way Drummond talks about them is chilling. They only articulate bloodcurling nightmare howls, can you imagine going against those things?
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>>334877314
Issue is Yhorm is described as a descendant of a conqueror, just like the original Giant Lord, and Stormruler has a very similar effect as the sword the Giant Lord uses.
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>>334877809
you can, watch the intro to DeS and then look at the western peninsula of Drangleic.
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>>334877545
So what you are saying is.
The power of memes gave Solaire the strength to go against guys Like smough and light the flame?
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>>334877687
>Drangleic used to be Verdite
FUCK
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>>334877798
well he was worshipping amygdala so he clearly ascended
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I think everything related to Pontiff/Aldrich is the most interesting part of the game lore wise
There doesn't seem to be that much info on it though, particularly about Pontiff and what exactly he did
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>>334877481
because he was such a nice guy?

>hit him in DS1
>asks you to stop multiple times
>shows genuine compassion when you have a conversation and give him stuff
>doesn't even curse you or anything when you keep hitting him and kill him

There was no reason anyone could hate him except for sitting in front of his friend's chest to guard his ring.
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>>334877965

He's the same as the "chosen" undead. Just a regular hollow who managed to slay things until he could challenge Gwyn and link the fire
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>>334872060
Is there a way I can read/watch everything that happened up until DS3? I assume DeS is part of the lore as well, yes?
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>>334878036
what I want to know is did pontiff literally rip out his eyes

Also surely pontiff was corupt by the same thing that Aldritch was, look at all the fucking monsters his soldiers turned into. Vordt and Dancer used to just be normal people.
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>reach untended graves
>it's firelink
>BUT DARK
WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
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>>334877965
no he just decided to be a holy man and fight monsters for his beliefs. That's all he was, he never shouted PRAIZ DA SUN every 5 minutes or said anything random. He had actual character and a story.
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>>334877535
i think he probably still is a das 2 giant, the face you see is really ghostly looking.
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>>334878130
>I assume DeS is part of the lore as well, yes?
no only people with tinfoil hats on will tell you that
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>>334878074
But the reason the CU was able to was that he was the CU right? He was basically the one, fucking Neo. CU was Harry Potter with the prophecy.

So how could Solaire, a regular guy not chosen by any prophecy, fuck up niggas like O&S
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>>334878181
time is unstable in Lothran
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what can be those flying things on lothric castle? (the thing in dragonslayer's armor)
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just beat soul of cinder first try. Twin princes took me at least 10. Anyone else?
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>>334878181
it's the almost real firelink
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>>334876091
Ahemm...
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>>334878130
>Is there a way I can read/watch everything that happened up until DS3?
Ebin Name Bro.
or you could watch Vaati the Hyena.
>DeS part of the lore
No, not at all.
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>>334878074
Ahh ok gotcha senpai.
Solaire is a handsome guy isn't he?
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>>334877898

just watched it, I don't see a map in it, and none of DaS2's topography reminds me of the cinematic
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>>334878164
Aldrich was corrupted by his own rampant cannibalism.
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>>334878319
both took me one try family, then again namless king took me like 30
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>>334878164
>what I want to know is did pontiff literally rip out his eyes

Where did you get that idea?

I think all of the Royal Family are blind as well.
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>>334877121
gaping vagina is a distant descendant

ancient dragon was a fake.
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>>334878181
The one you're in is fake, or some shit.
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>>334878294
There was no prophecy, and your character in DS1 wasn't 'Chosen' by anything. Frampt just told you that you were so you'd do what he wanted you to.
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>>334877856
if we put it that way, I'd say Yhorm and the other giants we meet are the evolved descendants of the giants in DS2.

How could there be beings like them in DS1? Well time and space are twisted so who knows, Dranleic could have been at war with a giant empire that would precedent the current giants by thousands of years if time would flow normaly.
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>>334878294
"Chosen Undead" wasn't a thing, it was a scam to round up as much random ass undead as possible until one was actually powerful enough to do shit for the dark snakes
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>>334878428

gaping dragon was an everlasting, it was just mutated by poop
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>>334878394
There are rings called left eye of the pontiff and right eye of the pontiff. And there never seems to be any indication that they're figurative eyes, either.
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>>334878294
No, there is no 'chosen' undead. Anyone who stays determined enough to reach and defeat gwyn is the chosen undead. If you quit the game without even beating the asylum demon your undead is just another hollow. You specifically become 'chosen' because you refused to accept defeat, you manned the fuck up and killed everything for no real reason in the end
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>>334878317
pilgrim butterflies, we don't really know much about them yet
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>>334878252
>>334878343
Ah cool, thanks.

And I saw some people said DS2 isn't canon, although there's references in 3. Is that just people being assmad over not liking DS2 or is there plot holes and shit?
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>>334878317
What the dead pilgrims you see lining the road leading to Lothric turn into.
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>>334878515
This axe, one of the rare dragon weapons,
is formed by the tail of the Gaping Dragon,
a distant, deformed descendant of the
everlasting dragons.
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man, Irithyll is so heavily based on Yharnam it's hilarious
>first bonfire is called Central Irithyll
>outrider knights become 'beastlike'
>Vordt's ring essentially gives you the regain ability
>the architecture
>the spooky shit in the dungeons

could it be the land where Yharnam stands before they discovered the underground pthumerian labrynths?
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>>334878543
>Knights who peer into the black orb are lured into battles of death, transformed into frenzied beasts.

>No wonder the Pontiff only provides these rings to those dispatched to foreign lands.

'These rings' - the right and left 'eyes' are certain types of enchanted ring that the pontiff gives to his knights
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>>334878164
Pontif himself is actually the reason that his knigths became beasts. It was caused by the rings/crowns he gave them
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>>334878543
They're definitely not his real eyes or he must be growing them back exponentially fast. An 'eye' ring is supposedly given to all soldiers sent to distant lands to turn them into beasts that will ravage everything.
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So who rung the bell that woke up the lords of cinder who was behind it all
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>>334878239
I dunno, the Das2 giants never had anything even resembling a hint of a face. Yhorm pretty clearly had something under that hood.
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>>334878683
It's a meme, the thing is, DaS2 story is kinda disconnected, so most of thing in it doesn't matter in the long run.
Unless they bring back some of it's character in the dlc.
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>>334878778
not me of course
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>>334878617
>>334878725
weird, do we know if there's any more progression to these things after the butterfly phase?
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>>334878740
you're dumber than the fag trying to connect Dark souls to demon souls shit you might be the same person
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>>334878778
Frampt.
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>>334878825
>posting that shitty pic

also you can clearly see his humanoid skull when he's dead.
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post yfw:
>On the first day
>DUN DUN
>Man was granted a soul
>DUN DUN
>And with it, clarity
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>>334878036

Pontiff is basically super hitler.

Potentially a scholar from Lothrics grand archives. Removed the Darkmoons from power. Planted the doll at Aldrich's tomb so he'd go to Anor Londo and eat the gods. Steal the power of moonlight with sorcery. Exiled Dancer for being a part of the royalty before he took over. Gave her and all the other outrider nights rings that will turn them into monsters. Imprisons qt dragon waifu, traps Gwyndolin so Aldrich can eat him. Tries to prevent you from linking the fire twice

Irithyls slaves basically have to drink blood and worship AL gods in secret
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>>334878871
archtreesthen dragons
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>>334878871
Might be into the dragons flying around Lothric.

Or Primordial Serpents, their heads kinda look like them.
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>>334878942
ok yeah thats way better

i literally just pulled my picture from a grainy youtube video.
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>>334878181
I thought that the Cemetery of Ash was some kind of dream world, kinda like Bloodbornes Hunters Dream/Old Workshop area

Think about it. Firelink Shrine does not connect to any other areas, there is no road to Lothric, you have to teleport there.

It's a place split in time, similar to that limbo shit from Dks2. Untended Graves is the real Firelink Shrine, degraded and forgotten
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>>334878740
I immediately thought Irithyll was "the bloodborne area" and I fucking love it
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>>334878876
the spoiler was meant to be ironic, i know it's all just inside references, the way kamiya does with all his games
... i think
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>>334878683
No it's just memes taken seriously by retards and sheeps.

Thing is though, DS2 just presented one of the many cycles of linking or not linking the fire, so it's kind of abundant. It gets referenced enough though in DS3 so all the people claiming it's not canon are full of shit.
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>>334879071
Fuck me that actually makes a lot of fucking sense
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post yfw unkindled one meets bearer of the curse in the DLC and they figure out a way to stop the cycle and we go back to the age of ancients, then as a practical joke fire came back and the game ends with an undead being thrown into a cell
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>>334879095
too bad it's so damn short. That's one thing I don't like about DS3, the areas are nice but when you finish them you realize they're extremely linear and just loops on itself.
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>>334878362
not the opening but the first cutscene, in the map to the right of boletaria you see drangleic's western peninsula
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>>334878683
dark souls 2 is cannon, its just so irrelevant that is not even funny
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>>334876091
They had other shit from DeS, why not this? I would shill out massive bucks for it, and the Old King's set
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>>334878036
he was a dictator worshiping the "new god" (Aldrich) so people farm hollows as tribute (Undead Settlement) send (Road of Sacrifices) pray and protect (Cathedral of the Deep) keep the "food" in place (Irithyll Dungeon) and he rule all Irithyll of the Boreal Valley.

Pontiff is the main villain half of the game
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>>334879071
Ah fuck, so we're actually dead on the game and untended graves is where we died or what?
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>>334879249
old king's is sort of back, you just need to fight him on steroids.
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>>334878986
I still wonder how he managed to do that. Another interesting about him is that if you pay attention, Lorian seems very similar to Vordt in the way he walks on all fours. Was the Pontiff responsible for the curse of the Royal family?
What was his goal anyway, did he serve Aldrich? Or was Aldrich just another one of his pawns in some unknown scheme?
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