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Why is subtle lore so much more interesting than obvious lore?
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Why is subtle lore so much more interesting than obvious lore?
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>>334864053
I don't really get how this is considered lore.

He's afraid of you when he's small because he thinks you'll squash him. What else is there to say?
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Its like finding 2 dollars as opposed to being given 2 dollars.

2 isn`t shit when someone just gives it to you, but then you find 2 dollars its like the best thing in the world.
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>>334864053
it disguises the devs hand, making the world seem more like a place of unlimited, untold discoveries, rather than a guided, shallow experience

you fill the gaps with your imagination
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DUDE WHAT IF MARIO WAS A RACIST LOL
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Why does the HUD in SM64 look like absolute shit?
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>>334864053
Obvious lore is usually obvious because the game is interrupted for the sake of telling you a story made by some hack that isn't good enough to have their script picked up for a movie but still insists on shoving it somewhere.

Subtle lore doesn't take away from gameplay.
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>>334864053
lore is a body of traditions

I wish autists would stop misusing this word
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>>334864446
is this english? wtf does any of that mean
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>>334864210
autism
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>>334864210
then why isnt mario scared of koopa when he is larger than mario?
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>>334864541
People that fail in movie writing often end up writing for videogames. They don't understand the medium and believe that the story should interrupt the game
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>>334864698

because you control him, you idiot
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>>334864053
Because if you find out for yourself, you like it more because you feel like the idea belongs to you.

Even if the "subtle" lore is actually pretty obvious.

As a law student we're taught this for debates and moots and such. If you just tell someone something, they're going to either agree or disagree with you. If you can lead someone into thinking it for themselves, they will always agree with you. They're not going to think their own idea is stupid, after all.
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>>334864698
Mario beats the shit out of them all the time, in various shapes and sizes.

Or I could ask you why you aren't scared of him, since you're the one controlling him.
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>>334864053
Humans like solving puzzles. It's why you like games to begin with.
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>>334865065

M-mozart?
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>>334865231
Oh, this reminds me. Have you ever wondered why you knew getting mushrooms makes you bigger?

Apparently, the goomba was the last enemy made and it was to serve a tutorial purpose. You quickly associate "mushroom thing = enemy" and you jump on it. So when you see a mushroom almost immediately after you try to jump on it again only to realise it's a power up.
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>>334865443
>needing to be told that the item that comes out of a "?" box isnt an enemy
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>>334865756

Imagine this is the first time you ever played a video game, anon.
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>>334865443
I thought it was the other way around. When people were testing it, they would try to avoid the mushroom because they thought it was something bad. So they designed the beginning of the level to where new players would most likely hit the mushroom even after they tried to avoid it.
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>>334865443
Why not just change the colour of the toon then?
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>>334864329
totes this forumpost
SOMEONE POST THE VID XD
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>>334865972
>Toon
GET OUT
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>>334864053
It adds an extra layer of satisfaction because it feels like you figured it out yourself.

I like stories in games but I don't care for stopping to read lore or the scope of gameplay being held back because the game wants to hammer something into my head, so I like little things like OP's pic even though that's a very minor example.
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Did someone say DEEPEST
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>>334866346
oh dear god
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>>334865941
It seems you're right, anon. I wonder where I heard my story from then...

http://bgr.com/2015/09/11/super-mario-bros-world-1-1-design/
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>>334864053
Is there a game with deeper lore than Mario 64?
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>>334866346
>Tomm Hulett
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>>334866346
Is this by the same guy who did that Donkey Kong documentary?
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GUYS

WHAT
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MULTIPLE SOLUTIONS REQUIRED


Fuck you google
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>>334866346
Where does Mario Teaches Typing come in?
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>>334865231
what the fuck am i looking at here?
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>>334866974

DELETE THIS!
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>>334866346
Well, I read the whole thing and I like it and it seems like it checks out in the most vague of ways
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>One is the N64 console
>The other is the N64 controller

SHIT
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>>334867341
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>>334867415
the hotel is the GC ?
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>>334866346

Why are Super Mario Bros and Lost Levels on separate timeline strands?
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>>334867341
One is a castle and the other is a dog with a bone in its mouth.
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>>334867562
continuity is subjective shitlord headcannon is just as valid
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>>334866974

>Soma.webm
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>>334864541
You must be severely retarded
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>>334864431
Its an early full 3D game from 1996
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>>334866346
This is pretty funny actually
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>the flower was just a sideways coin
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>>334869659
This one's the best
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>>334870838
When you zoom in on a fireflower like that, it looks like a vagina.
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>>334870838
No it's not.
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The mushroom pick-up sound is a sped up version of the flagpole fanfare.
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>>334871469
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23F3jz6kR8o
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>>334870838
No it's not.

The coin is thicker and rounder at the top.
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>>334868389
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>>334871893
>>334871025
You all must be severely retarded
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>>334866346
>This guy fucking explains all the Mario spinoff titles as well
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>>334867341
But it is...
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>>334866974
>the way the "original" mario poofs when he falls
clearly he just used a substitution jutsu
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>>334868942
I think the real reason it was called the xbox 360 was because they felt xbox 2 sounded inferior to playstation 3
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>>334871893
you from down in the states bud?
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>>334867135
World 1 is a desert, I guess?
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>>334874250
And that's why they put the bone against the PS4.
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>>334864431
It's charming though.
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>>334874707
>anything about the bone
>making sense
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>>334874832
Exactly.
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>>334874250
And then they called the next Xbox the Xbox One and it barely sold 20 million compared to PS4's 100
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>>334864541
Are you actually retarded?
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Because /v/idya doesn't hire real writers, at least for anything other than witty banter.
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Looks like Mario
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>>334875092
I'm pretty sure they were trying to be clever with the name, cause basically everyone called the Xbox 360 just "The 360", and they assumed everyone would call the new one "The One". Pretty amusing how things turned out with that piece of shit.
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>>334875641
Power up!
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>>334875975
the ps3 announcement was even more bungled but it really is incredible just how awful the bone's was
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOxdMQhDMIU
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>>334865231
i-is that Ben Garrison
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>>334866346
>Paper Mario TTYD is a dream

FUCK YOU
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>>334865231
Can you be any less comprehensive?
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These threads stopped me from cutting
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>want to make my own world with DEEPEST LORE
>the world i've imagined is basically the real world + new names and logos with a few twists and historical events from our world occurring in the present.
i'm not sure if it's still possible for this to be interesting as a result of the odd combinations, or if it's doomed to just demonstrate i can't create anything new, only manipulate that which exists.
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Prepare to have your mind blown.
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>>334879516
Nobody cares
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>>334879526
kek

reminds me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_u18_BKczg
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>>334879526
>wheezing = sneezing
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>>334879596
you cared enough to reply. :^)

it's a question, although it's not formatted as such because i'm too tired to articulate what i'm asking as such. hence formatting it as a description of the problem itself.
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>>334879526
>Muk = Kum
There's a point here.
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>>334879526
>the ratchet one
oh my goddd
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>>334879516
everyone is only ever manipulating that which exists...
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>>334879516
I suspect people will have a rough idea about what's going to happen if it's based too much on real world history, you know? The details may change but the plot is still the same.
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>>334866346
>Luigi never wakes up
>Then New Super Luigi U and Dr. Luigi happen
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>>334866346
Where does Yoshi's Story fit in all that?
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>>334864053
random shit =/= lore

Holy shit why are nintendrones so fucking stupid?
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>>334884564
lol
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>>334884564
it's a meme
you
dip
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>>334884564
>Nintendrone
>Emulated

The fact that the pics are from an emulator proves it's not a Nintendrone, as they would own it on the N64 and would have grabbed the shots from there years ago.

No, this prove it's a recent retard who's just a memelord. He became obsessed with all the SM64 memes that have been popping up in the past two years so he downloaded it himself, desperately trying to find that hot new meme to share. That fucking shit is the best he could do, so he spams it almost daily.
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>>334880794
Kek
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>>334884539
this is the most obvious, it's before Yoshi Island

I'm surprised Yoshi Safari and Yoshi cookie dont appear anywhere
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*sigh*

the stupidy in ITT
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>>334884729
In that case why don't you show him up and stop being a piece of dross to discussion?
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>>334864446
This, so much this.
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>>334886010
>in ITT
Subtle, someone might fall for it, 8/10
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Mario's so deep.

>Why were Bob-ombs at war with their own race?
>What was a Lapras doing inside Hazy Maze? It felt like it was a prisoner.
>Where was the important date MIPS was late to?
>What happens if you run around that sign at the edge of a cliff 100 times like it says?
>What was the purpose of that jumping box inside of Boo's Haunt? Unlike the box in the desert that also jumps, you can't use it to get on top of anything.
>Who is that owl bro, and why did the developers specifically want him to help you in Thwomp's Fortress? They could have just as easily put in an invisible warp short-cut to take you to the top like the other places in the game. What is his relation to Thwomp or Bullet Bill?

Will we ever know everything there is to know about Mario?
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>>334887118
IT'S STIIIIIL A MYSTERYYYY
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>>334870838
Are you high?
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>>334872081
Not only is it a different sprite entirely, it has a white outline and red center showing it isn't supposed to look like a coin, and the stem shows it isn't even a coin lore-wise.
You're wrong in three different ways.
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>>334866672
W-what is that, anon?
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>>334870838
>the flower is actually a lewd girl who needs a good spanking
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>>334864238
I have literally a dozen toonies sitting a jar
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