Dawn of War 3: The Horus Heresy when? Also 40k thread
>>334852394
Why does it have to 40k? Why can't the next game be set in 30k.
>>334852394
only if they revert to the scale (quantity) of units and basebuilding of DoW, I hated what they did with the second game
>>334852394
>genetical engineered super soldiers vs genetical engineered super solderis
Sounds fucking exciting anon!
heres hoping for admech in DoW3
who /imperialguard/ here?
>>334852394
Horus Heresy should be left as a separate Dawn of War game, honestly. It was such a big event it would have to be scaled up to Total War sized fights so it would make Titans an appropriate addition to DoW:30k.I want more Bloody Magpies to fuck around with both the Black Legion and Thousand Sons.
>>334856940
>>334856940
eh. I like to think that the blood raven's story is done. Lelic could do a CoH1/2 campaign in Space from the PoV of the imperial guard and it would do great.
The beach assault cinematic was god tier.
RTS is dead. Stop being this new.
>>334857339
this. DoW JRPG when?
>>334857339
>Battlefleet gothic has already made a profit
>Halo and Warhammer RTS coming soon
> Implying DoW 3 won't be the same cookie cutter space marines, chaos, orkz eldar and maybe IG in the expansion
Just preorder it already stupid goyim.
>>334855018
How do I even play as them? Everytime I do Necrons just walk into my base and fuck my shit up
>>334857707
Gothic Armada isn't an RTS
DoW 2 has more RTS elements compared to Gothic Armada
>>334857812
Grenade launchers are your best friend. I would say make two squads of guardsmen and then get grenade launchers as soon as possbile.
>>334857812
necrons are the slowest of all players, how are you getting destroy by them?
>>334853948
>WW2
>soldiers vs soldiers
Sounds fucking exciting anon!
>>334852736
>and basebuilding of DoW
Jesus christ, every fucking time with you fucks. This doesn't fucking work with the lore of 40k, only as an RTS. 30k especially would make no sense with basebuilding since so much of it is based on final stands or making impossible assaults without support. If you don't give a damn about a lore perspective interfering with gameplay then a SupCom style would be best. If you do care then a Total War style would make more sense.
>>334858152
>Begin game
>Spawn near Necrons
>Ishygddt
>Necrons makes 3 groups of soldiers for free
>waltz over to my base while i'm building my requisite infantry buildings and making more units
>le shoot you with guns while having 1000000 HP
>guard units cannot do anything
>Spawn Necron lord
>TP him into my base
The cycle continues.
Can I discuss WHFB here pls?
>>334857834
>unless stuff has basebuilding it is not an RTS
Its a RTT Game. Kinda like Total war.
>>334858269Yeah, I don't really like WW2 rts
Why do you faggots want HH so much?
30k is shit when compared to 40k
Literally the same shit but instead of factions with unique and distinct gameplay and lore you have 18 slightly different variations of space marines
>>334854473
I like you
>>334858628
>Can I discuss WHFB here pls?
Why not making your own thread?
Shameless plug for >>>/vg/40kg
Do it for the best Primarch.
>>334858152
creeping death
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE7xyn28wjg
>>334858824
nah, it brings the shogun2 fags.
>>334858707
>more balanced
>legions are awesome
>set in a galactic civil war of most epic proportions which creates almost a historical feel
>mechanicum
>SOLAR AUXILIA
>>334857812
You have to be aggressive and have your forces hitting their base constantly destroying their shit
>>334858612
IG have probably one of the easiest times vs Crons in SS. Maybe Eldar because early game banshees is basically instant-loss for Crons.
Anyways, you don't need barracks as IG. You can make your standard infantry right from your base and Commissars don't come into their own until t2. Get you GL spam up as early as possible and Necrons have no fucking shot at fucking with you. Won't even be able to get up to fire at you.
If they're in your base then all the easier. Garrison your structures and now they suddenly need anti-building if they want a chance at a successful attack.
Garrison your tech priests. They go from shooting worthless las pistols to somehow shitting out plasma bolts when they're in a building.
Necrons and SoB are the worst armies around in SS. IG are up there right under Tau/Elfdar.
Of course this is all in relation to 1v1s. Necrons are actually perfectly reasonable in larger skirmishes when they have someone to back up their slow start.
If you're playing DC then disregard all this shit. DC Necrons are fucked and you're fucked too.
I liked the overall changes from DoW1 to DoW2 but there were a lot of things that dragged it down.
>buggy/unresponsive UI
>no wargame style overmap
>boring MP maps
>inconsistent quality in campaign writing
>numerous balance issues
>splitting the releases
I feel like the core gameplay is solid but THQ wasn't in any position to fund it properly.
>>334859975
>>334858707
Then make it Great Crusade. Same game except necrons and nids are replaced with factions like the Interex, Genestealers, or Laer.
>>334859975
[decimation intensities]
>>334860196
>>334860297
>>334859376
GL spam? What's that? Also i've only been playing Dark Crusade because I hear Soulstorm is buggy, are Necrons OP as shit or something in JUST Dark Crusade?
>>334860547
>JUST Dark Crusade?
Yes, Necrons are way more stronger in DS than SS.
Who is the worst Primarch and why is it Magnus
>>334860547
Grenade Launcher you dingus
>>334860547
Guardsmen can be upgraded to use Gernade Launches, which are retardedly OP because of how cheap they are and how much knockback they have
Necrons are a problem when they have a large enough force but destroy their economy and they are fucked
>>334860726
Only by comparison since DE and SoB almost broke the fucking power creep scale.
>>334858707
I'd prefer 40K, but with a greater army painter/customization so you could trick out your troops with Beakie helmets and studded armour. Besides, it'd represent some of the Chaos bands abit better since they aren't always using the shiniest stuff.
>game rewards aggressive playstyle
>always turtle until I have upgraded everything
>get shit kicked in
>>334860815
Most people's have problems when matched against Crons because they try to fight them like they're SM or CSM and don't play against their weaknesses enough. Their reliance on scarabs for control points means you can basically run circles around them.
>>334860547
GL spam is when you load up 2-3 squads with grenade launchers. The knockback ability on enemy infantry is like tossing salad, they'll barely be able to recover before being thrown up into the air again.
what do you want to see BETTERized in game 3?
>massive improvement or complete removal of flying units
>balance
>more game modes
>even more QUALITY voice acting and memes
>more in-depth painting
>more units
>more execution animations
>Angelos
>bluhd rehvens lore
>long ass campaign
>>334860547
SS isn't buggy on the current patch. It was undoubtably a problem on release but by now the only reason left to play DC is for the campaign. SS is better supported, with a larger community, and miles ahead of DC in balance. The campaign in DC is much better but if you want to actually play the game you go on SS.
And yes. Necrons were broken as shit in DC. Then they nerfed them but buffed the shit out of Flayed Ones and they were STILL OP as shit in DC. Now in SS they have a pretty massive flaw with their slow expansion that makes their free early-game heavy infantry much more reasonable.
GL is grenade launchers. It's IG's early game armory upgrade.
You don't need barracks as IG until t2 unless you're thirsty for a command squad. Which is fair enough; psykers in some MUs are absolutely invaluable t1. However, if you find yourself not needing the command squad, the only thing barracks give you until t2 is access to Commissars. Commissars are not that great for their passive morale buff. Commissars are MONSTERS because of their t2 ability to execute a guardsmen, making all nearby squads IMMUNE to morale damage and giving them a massive buff to attack speed. With 15 GLs firing twice as fast, you'll burn through any infantry option in t2.
On a separate note: people discount the plasma guns IG get too easily. They're great, too, for their own reasons. But that's a discussion for another day.
>>334861163
Huh, go figure. When's that unlocked, Tier 1 from my Research Center i'm guessing? I gotta get that shit, it sounds fun
Also is it true that the Baneblade is the strongest unit?
>>334861553
>EXCECUTE A GUARDSMAN TO BOOST MORALE
Holy shit what
>>334861762
If you will not serve in combat, then you will serve on the firing line!
>>334861762
Best way a commissar can motivate the troops to fight harder and to their deaths.
>>334861762
you forgot that it doubles the firing speed of everyone too
>>334861762
>have population capped with guards
>switching between the 3 commiesars and constantly executing
>enjoy free ear rape
>>334858707
I don't like it at all. I pushed myself through the first three HH books before dropping it and never looking back.
>>334862171
>4v4 skirmish Anihilate
>Everyone on the other team goes IG
>They all show up at one guys base pop capped with 3 commisars
It was fucking horrid
>>334861762
whos are the real monsters
>>334861550
SKITARII FUCKING PLEASE
>>334861575
You gain access to GL t1 from building a Tactica Control. It also grants access to /very/ useful research upgrades to their infantry armor and morale, and later on an insanely strong upgrade to their attack range and number of specialist weapons per squad.
Baneblade is strongest on what terms? It's certainly a monster on the battlefield. But in terms of HP nothing beats Kauyon Greater Knarloc. In terms of damage I'm willing to bet Bloodthirster beats it out. In terms of raw usefulness Avatar cannot be challenged.
Baneblade has the VERY big weakness of being very slow to construct. It requires a very long and costly research; then building its own building that can ONLY make Baneblades, which runs the risk of having a Relic stolen from you as it's being built; then you need to actually produce the thing. It's very large and unwieldy on top of that and will often get stuck on all your infantry.
Most IG will prefer to build Lemun Russ because of this nine times out of ten. Lemun Russ is easily one of the strongest non-relic tanks in the game. Only Hammerhead really competes in my mind.
>>334861762
IMMUNE to morale, not even morale boost. Flamers instantly useless. On top of an insane attack steroid.
In lore terms, Commissars are supposed to be stuck behind IG. Put something scarier behind them than in front of them so they don't retreat. Mechanically, you pay 20 req to have all your squads turn into death machines.
>playing final mission of winter assault disorder
>spend hours trying to beat it
>takes for fucking ever to take down the land raider
>finally do it and have to kill the lads at the gate
>almost finished
>units stop moving
>fatal scar error
>game fucking froze
>haven't gone back in a week
DoW1's campaigns were better than 2's, though SS' was quite bad
butI thought DoW2 multiplayer was a lot better than 1's
>>334862980I liked Chaos Rising's campaign the most out of any of them
>>334862508
Interesting, I have to try that out on some ez mode AI considering the first time I tried Imperial Guard I got bamboozled hard. From what I gather they seem like more ranged Orcs- throw out 800000000 of them, built giant ass turrets and make a fuckton of vehicles. Now that I know Soulstorm isn't buggy as sin i'll probably play that now.
Also that's fucked up. Do the Imperial Guards rebel against the Commisars, then? Shooting my friends wouldn't exactly engender myself to them.
What is the best relic unit
>>334855018
guards are best faction
>>334863749
>rebel
They might hate the commissar but they fight for the emperor
>>334852394
EVEN IN DEATH
>>334852573
>>334863749
Shooting a commissar is easily one of the most punishable things a guardsmen can do. It's the sort of thing that'll make the hammer of the Inquisition rain down from the fucking sky. You will be tortured in the most futuristic way possible.
Commissars are there to make sure guardsmen stay in line. They shoot cowards and execute people who want to rebel. When you're fighting reality-warping demons and undead robots from the birth of the universe it's easy to rout and fuck over your comrades. Without them the Imperial war machine would sort of screech to a hault outside of Kreig. Kreig guardsmen shoot their own cowardly commissars.
The life of a guardsmen is one of terrible misery and almost assured death. Your life and even soul are deemed an expendable commodity. Regular deaths of hundreds of thousands of guardsmen is considered a very simple acceptable loss. The best you can hope for is that it's a quick death at the hands of your commanding officer rather than captured by marauding torture circuses or daemon-worshipping heretics.Actually the best thing you can hope for is assimilation by the Tau, really.
>>334864452
Or, you know, hope that your regiment takes so many casualties that its deemed to not even be worthwhile to merge it with another. In that case you get to stay on the world youre currently, which may or may not be a good thing.Or just desert.
What is your favorite chapter?
>>334864908
>deserting
Heresy
>>334864452
>Actually the best thing you can hope for is assimilation by the Tau
>>334864908
>just desert
Horus Heresy would kind of suck for a DoW game, unless it just avoided all major canon events - but in that case it might as well be set during the modern era so enemy variety could be increased.
Like seriously, most battles for the Space Marines were one sided slaughters going either way, or just loyalist forcesentrenching their position and trying to hold out for relief against waves of cultists, CM, and demons - usually ending in their failure.
The handful that weren't would just be awkward to adapt into the DoW formula, since even with 2's squad focused design it'd be shit for stuff like Roboute confronting demons and boarding CM on the hull of his ship solo in melee combat, Sanguinius 1v1ing that Bloodthirster fucker on Terra, etc.
>>334864452
>It's the sort of thing that'll make the hammer of the Inquisition rain down from the fucking sky. You will be tortured in the most futuristic way possible.
Haha what? The Inquisition doesnt have the time to deal with every instance of a guard regiment getting pissed about their commissars. Thats for the Guard to deal with, no Inquisitor is gonna spend time on that. Penal legion or straight up execution will be the punishment, not inquisitorial retribution. If a regiment starts to worship Chaos or consort with ayyliums, THAT will bring the Inquisition to them.
>>334864996
Steel Confessors or iron hands
love the idea of replacing body parts with mechanical parts
>>334863839
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpBngmCpUrU
>>334865146
Fuck the Angry Marines. They're an embarrassment to the Adeptus Astartes
>>334865667
They're also entirely redundant since Angron and the World Eaters already exist and do their shtick better
>>334864908
>Or just desert.
>>334864452
>>Actually the best thing you can hope for is assimilation by the Tau
>>334863680
>I liked Chaos
>>334862980
>I thought DoW2 multiplayer was a lot better than 1's
HERETICS ALL OF YOU
I hereby declare you accursed enemies of the Imperium, may the Inquisition deal swiftly with degenerates that plague the Imperium.
>>334864996
I'm quite partial to the Black Templars and the Fire Angels. Like the whole Crusader thing.
>>334865873
Hey Eisenhorn, you excited about your upcoming game?
>Games Workshop shall never advance the storyline in your lifetime
>the lost primarchs will never return
>Papa smurf shall never wake
>Hawkboy shall never resurrect
>The Emprah shall never be reborn as the Chaos God ofOrder
>Humanity shall never lead the second Great Crusade
Why even bother continuing to live?
>>334864452
>Shooting a commissar is easily one of the most punishable things a guardsmen can do. It's the sort of thing that'll make the hammer of the Inquisition rain down from the fucking sky
Not even close. With the massive wars the IG fight in it's impossible to tell just where exactly the shot that pulverized the Commisars face came from and no one will likely know it was guardsmen Jim and anyone who saw probably won't care in certain scenarios like when the Colonel is calling a full retreat but Commisar is being stubborn. Guardsmen from certain planets like Catachan do this all the fucking time and get away with it because they simply don't give a damn about the Commissariat. Regimes that behave that way are expected and Commisars sent to them are expected to use their power appropriate when working with such dangerous soldiers.
The Imperial Guard is more than capable of policing it's own soldiers and punishing insubordination.
>>334866045
I'm just done reading the books. The whole time I was thinking 'Damn, a cRPG adapted from Eisenhorn would be amazing'. Instead we get a TPS, I'm mad.
At least it looks close to the original material but fuck.
>>334859975
>>334860196
>>334860297
>>334860395
lol what are these?
jokes about terminators that can't deep strike?
>>334864452
In DoW2, when a Catachan squad kills an enemy commissar they say "You ain't the first commissar I've killed today!"
I wish those guys had more books
>>334864996
>Conceptually
The Lamenters
>In terms of how they're actually presented
Blood Ravens or Salamanders, maybe the Space Wolves in their less retarded and more noble incarnations.
>>334866303
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Iron_Circle
>>334866247
WH40K in general could have like a dozen great CRPGs made out of it if anyone were willing to try.
>>334866435
Space Furries are literally going to have anthropomorphic wolf marines eventually
Mark my fucking words
>>334864996
Iron Warriors.
>>334862309
You should at least check out 'The first heretic' and 'Know no fear'
Both pretty damn good.
>>334861142
>reliance on scarabs for control points
And yet they don't really rely on control points.
>>334866646
They already have a space werewolf company dum dum.
>>334866595
I'm honestly tempted to try my hand at it. But I need assets because no one cares about the life of the Inquisitor Cubus McCube and his loyal retinue of various geometrical shapes because I can't texture/model for shit.
>>334866646
one step away
>>334852394
best faction swooping in and raping, stealing, memeing, and removing ALL seeds of evil where they exist WHEN
>>334866920
Too bad they're total garbage in the TT.
>>334866646
Honestly if it gets played straight as a sign of chaos corruption slowly seeping into their ranks and not 'lol our geneseed is fucked yo' I could almost forgive that.
It'd be cool to see an active, popular chapter actually fall - especially if it grew out of legitimate issues they have with the Imperium, and it got developed.
Of course, that's asking too much of GW these days.
>>334864996
Space Wolves.Good if you know how to Disregard memers and wolf cavalry and enjoy space viking weremonsters and fell handed dreadnoughts.
After Space Wolves, Iron Hands.
>tfw hated the HH books but got oddly invested in Sanguinius and his relationships with his brothers anyway
I honestly tear up when I see this image now, what the fuck is wrong with me.
>>334866247
I will watch it on youtube. While I sometimes think that Abnett makes the 40k universe, at least in Gaunts Ghosts, a bit too... normal, I suppose is the word, the worlds he creates for Eisenhorn and Ravenor are very interesting and I want to see them get brought to life.
>>334867247
There's nothing wrong with fully appreciating the fabulous hawkboy and his incredible loyalty and ardent love for his fellow man
>>334866971
Literally the highest potential for writers to have fun with though. If one writer who studies the right influences wrote a story it would be the single greatest 40k book ever written.
Shit. I should write that book.
>>334867247
>tfw Horus himself admitted the only one of his brothers he truly wanted by his side was Sanguinius, and that if he was he would gladly give him the role of Warmaster
He's honestly a bit of a mary sue but fuck he's my favourite primarch anyway.
>>334867253
>While I sometimes think that Abnett makes the 40k universe, at least in Gaunts Ghosts, a bit too... normal
That's what I like about him. It's a refreshing take on the usual over-the-top approach to most 40k stuff. Things aren't black and white, even an organisation as absolute as the Inquisition has different factions, there are actual people living, not just cannon fodder and the usual chaos. I don't know, it made all the backstage believable whilst keeping the 40k threats very real.
Alfa Legion for the next 40K game?
Any good books about CSMs?
>tfw there will never be good 40k games again
>>334867661
In the context of Warhammer, having a Mary Sue makes sense considering everyone else is the exact opposite. Also not only is Sanguinius dead as hell, he also failed as a leader and his chapter is in dissaray without him. In modern terms he's an examination of the consequences of perfection- everyone leaned on him, and when he died he left everyone in a terrible situation.
>>334867798
GOAT
>>334867928
Wrong post quoted?
>>334864452
>spoiler
I wonder who could be behind this post
>>334868018
brb gonna buy
>>334867928
But his chapter and it's fair number of successors are moderately united and very successful even though they constantly fantasize about how awesome it would be if their Primarch was alive. But literally all the loyalists do that.
>>334868018
>yfw Uzas did NOTHING WRONG
>>334868398
>tfw I'm shit at battlefleet armada
send help
>>334867661
Oh know, I dont mean it like that. I like that too. The parts in his books that explore normal life in the Imperium are great. Like the mutant bar in Xenos (which I really hope is in the game) that has what is basically techno music, dancers and hookers. Or the carnval in one of the short stories where you can gaze into the Eye (here just a pit with smoke machines and purple lights) and have your courage judged by an old man claiming to be a Marine. Those are great. What I'm referring to is mostly found in Ghosts.
Simply put, the whole crusade in those books, and the IG, come across as very normal, by 40k standars. Theres not a lot of commissars executing people for cowardice, not many chainsword wielding priests and I honestly cant remember if there were any Chaos Marines, Techpriests or Ogryns. Theres a few psykers, at least one Chaos Dreadnought and a few DE and a deamon at some point but that sabout it. Its mostly just humans vs humans and while thats to be expected (regular renegades and cultists do make up the bulk of Chaos forces after all) I feel they could use an increase of the more fantastical elements of 40k.
I dunno, maybe I'm talking bullshit here. Its been years since I read them, maybe I'm remembering it wrong.
>>334864452
Catachans eat Commisars for breakfast. If the jungle doesn't get them first.
>>334868881
>basically techno music, dancers and hookers
Don't hookers get shot for Heresy? Pleasure is Slaanesh's domain.
Would an Eisenhorn game be good?
>>334869024
The Imperium is not nearly that strict.
Plus I'm pretty sure a large percentage of it still doesn't know that the Chaos Gods can feed on your emotions even if you don't worship them.
>>334869042
Aren't they actually making one for Mobile?
>>334869042
Well, one is coming out soon, so you'll get your answer. From what I've heard, its basically a TPS, with the plot and dialouge lifted almost word for word from the books.
So how many human worlds are in the Tau empire anyway?
>>334869503
>>334869319
I just wish it had better production values.
Giant Bomb's Quick Look did not leave me thinking it looks decent.
>>334869024
Excess is the domain of Slaanesh, not pleasure. Otherwise drinking anything but water would be forbidden for civilians, sweets and food that's not just nutrient bars would be forbidden. You're being really silly right now.
>>334867918
I'd agree with you if I didn't enjoy BFG so much. The upcoming game by EYE studio also looks promising. The rest is trash though.
>>334869319
>Battleskirts
When will this meme end?
>>334869024
That's nothing nearly so strong as to empower Slaanesh noticeably and likely has nothing to do with any heretical intentions or knowledge of Chaos. It'd be impossible to regulate that the same way it'd be impossible to make sure every single IG doesn't like killing things to much.
The kind of Pleasure you need to look out for is when the Planetary Governor has every single virgin on the planet taken into a giant arena and then charges the nobility thrones to watch him have his fun.
Avitus did nothing wrong and was right about everything.
Retribution had a subpar campaign.
>>334869610
Not many, could be wrong but as far as I know from the DC game, most human populations are "sterilized" no ideia how they actually do it ofc, and if it was an exception of sorts.
Tau empire doesn't see normal average humans to be any good for the greater good.
>>334869319
Mobile and PC, to be precise. Comes out in a month or so.
>>334869024
I think you're taking the whole "grim, dark future" just a bit too seriously, Anon. Its grim, but there is still a semblance of normalcy to the Imperium. I know its says "THERE IS ONLY WAR" but no. There is also farming. And restaurants. And schools. And art. And hookers.
>>334869812
I loved his angry, bitter ranting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT_vcm7eKIc
>>334869712
When they stop being Sexy..
>>334869846
Forced Sterilization was implied to be Imperial propaganda.
PERTURABO DID NOTHING WRONG
>>334869661
>Excess is the domain of Slaanesh, not pleasure
She's literally called the Prince of Pleasure you knob.
>>334870016
He got shit on pretty hard. He just wanted to build, not destroy.
>That thing with the painting
>>334869846
Forced sterilization for all humans might be Imperial propaganda.
Even still, they likely do it to planets that put up too much of a fight before surrender.
>>334870035
And the Lord of Excess. You do realize that there are champions of Slaanesh that also devote their EXCESSIVE murder to it. Just because you penis feels funny and you are happy it happened doesn't mean you immediately fall and become a gibbering Slaaneshi cultist.
>>334852736
Fuck you, I want to assault and build fortifications
>>334869970
Ohh, the more you know, never noticed that the narrator was as it would make sense, spreading, or informing people propaganda.
>tfw there will never be an Inquisitor like game in the vein of Mass Effect
Y'know, ignoring the third one. A game where you went between worlds eradicating heresy, with allies of various levels of corruption, and the choice to be a radical inquisitor or not.
>>334869610
>>334869846
Last time I checked (and this could've changed) the Tau Empire is comprised of around a hundred worlds, most of them xenos. There are a few human populated worlds, some of which have been conquered and some of which more or less willingly joined and then were either never even contested or resisted Imperial invasion. Taros is an example.
>most human populations are "sterilized"
Its worth noting that its explictly stated, though it is heavily implied. I've been reading all region archive stuff in DC and it says that the Tau have controlled the world for quite a while. Its only after the (non canon) Tau victory after the Kronus War that the humans are sterilized. They pay a "heavy price for the so called Greater Good", as the narrator put it.
Speaking of the archives in DC:
>mfw that one region where some wanted dude is calling himself "Commissar Valiance" and executes a Tau on a stage in cold blood, inciting the human population to riot in the Tau Quarter of the city
>>334870212
Yes and it brings them great pleasure because of how it makes them FEEL. That's the point. Slaanesh is the pursuit of sensation in all forms. A Slaaneshi takes just as much joy in a small bit of a new sensation as they do in a massive dose of a familiar one. She embodies the pursuit of pleasure to it's greatest and smallest levels.
>Just because you penis feels funny and you are happy it happened doesn't mean you immediately fall and become a gibbering Slaaneshi cultist.
Yeah, no one said that. You don't fall to Khorne the moment you punch someone in anger, you don't fall to Nurgle after one bout of depression, you don't fall to Tzeencth after changing your computer password. That doesn't mean they aren't examples of their domains and related to the extreme ends of said domains.
>>334870645
>Half feral Amazon Soritas chapter
Why doesn't this exist?
>>334867662
>Alfa Legion
>Lambda on the belt
>Smurfmarines skirt thing
>Dark Angels Hood
>Furrymarines fur coat?
>Weird melta pistol pattern
What in the fuck
>SPESS
Oh well, fuck it.
>>334870497
Wasn't he replaced by a CUSTODE or something?
>>334852394
I just got back into Dawn of War 2, thanks to elite mod. For a community mod, its really well done.
Here's to hoping they don't fuck up Dow3. They just hired a new Senior Designer and bunch of other people. Something is brewing at Relic and the job postings confirm its a RTS.
>>334870869
Because the Space Wolves and Sisters of Battle don't get along to well
>>334870645
This is barely 40k
I hope this was done as one of those fan redesign attempts, and still it's so fucking cliched it hurts
Subtlety is for the weak.
>>334871507
>>334871725
Cute.
>tfw no SoB codex
>>334872115
They are only useful for Armor paint.
>>334872052
All Guardsmen, follow me to glory!
>>334870995
Probably relics he "borrowed".
Prettiest SoB right here
>>334872332
Fucking Magpies..
>>334872250
I couldnt help but laugh when I read about that.
>tfw I actually used to shell out money for 40k codexes and be pretty excited whenever I got home with one
That came to a screeching halt around the time of the new edition.
>>334872250
>>334868206
>mfw Gabriel Seth
The nerve of that motherfucker, I love him.
>>334852573
Why not NobleBright?
Why not Warcraft?
Why not just shut down THQ and sell off all their licences to people who will never use them?
Why not just get Matt Ward to rewrite the fluff for your favorite game?
Heres your (you)
>>334864452
>Shooting a commissar is easily one of the most punishable things a guardsmen can do.
When there is a mutiny commissars are the first to go, though
>>334872998
Commissars that are too trigger happy are also prone to perishing from unfortunate weapon misfiring accidents.
>>334855018
more importantly who /catachan/ here?
Soritas a shit
Astartes for life
>>334855018
Tanith First reportan in.
Five bucks says the Soritas keep teenage boys as fuck slaves.
>>334873132
I remember when I first read the IG codex. Was a kid and didnt know about Rambo. Had a good chuckle later when I read about him.
>>334873132
>Catachan
They're alright but the Harakoni are 10x cooler.
>>334873423
Probably.Hopefully.
Hey /v/ I've always thought warhammer 40k looks really cool and I've wanted to get into it, so which games should I play? So far I've played Dawn of War, and that's it.
>>334873727
Space Marine.
>>334873727
Dawn of War, Space Marine I guess. Read lore online (lexicanum or 1d4chan), read the books (Eisenhorn is a great starting point imo).
>>334855018
Valhallan 597th, present and accounted for.
>>334873827
I'm reading a book called Crusade for Armageddon at the moment, and I've already downloaded Space Marine but just haven't played it yet. I'm not sure which books I should read first, though.
>>334873953
Read Eisenhorn Omnibus. Very accessible even to someone who is new to Warhammer. Very solid as a book too.
>>334873953
Eisenhorn omnibus if the life of a inquisitor/spy/detective in spess appeals to you.
Ultramarines if you wanna read about everyone's favourite oversized smurfs.
Horus' Heresy by Abnett if you want to know why is everything so terrible.
>>334873827
>1d4chan
Don't use this. It's just bad jokes and unupdated lore/complaining about updated lore.
>>334873953
I'll put a good word in for Caiaphas Cain.
>>334874180
Go home Matt Ward.
>>334874076
>>334874108
Thanks. I'll try read all these.
>>334874180
Some things 1d4 chan claims stand very much true. You just need to approach things with a critical eye. The Adeptus Mechanicus page stands true to this day and is explained in depth and very eloquently too.
Omnid Torquora did nothing wrong.
>>334872250
reminder
>>334874236
I second this. The closest you can get to actual comedy in Warhammer.
>>334873953
Gaunt's Ghosts series if you want Vietnam in space, it's written by the same guy that does Eisenhorn.
>>334873727
By Dawn of War, do you mean just 1? If so, go straight to the expansions, they're all good IMO. Though you might want to take a trip to pcgaymingwiki.com for Dark Crusade and Soulstorm, since they, especially SS, had some rocky launches. Theres some mods and improvements there you might be interested in.
If you want something besides strategy, your options are more limited. Theres Space Marine, which lets you be a Muhreen and kill Orks and Chaos. Its good enough, Id say. Not great but it has a nice feel to, you look, sound and feel like a marine when playing. Just dont expect greatness from it.
Theres also Fire Warrior, if you get really desperate for something besides strategy but there a few factors to consider: its not great. Some have called it shit, I wouldnt go that far, but its absolutely a flawed, somehwat generic FPS. But I still have a soft spot for it and you might as wel. I dont think you can buy digitally though. You might find a torrent or something. And finally, it may or may not run on your computer, like it didnt for me.
Theres also the old Space Hulk games which I downloaded a while back. VAs a bit goofy at times and theres not much of a story but its pretty fun, though I havent played a lot of it.
And then theres Gothic Armada which comes out in like 2 days. And Deathwing, though we havent seen much of that.
>>334873953
I'll throw in anything by ADB. His first is Cadian Blood, my fav, though his Night Lord books are also very good.
Theres also the Word Bearers trilogy by Anthony Reynolds, which mainly has one thing going for it: it captures the scale and brutality of 40k very, very well.
>>334874703
Yeah, I meant the original DoW. I tried getting number 2, but that didn't work since the torrent was shit, but I got soulstorm, just haven't played that yet. I mainly want to play the games so that I get the story. I've watched a few lore videos and stuff, but those are fucking boring, and I much prefer reading book and playing games to experience the events for myself.
>>334864996
Too many humies and twiggy fings 'round 'ere! OI! WHERE ME GREEN BOYZ AT?!
WAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!!
ORKS ARE DA BEST!
>>334874703
>all those spelling mistakes I made
Fuck me.
>>334873953
Storm of Iron is a really good singleton standalone about the Iron Warriors and Imperial Fists. Gaunt's Ghosts is the best Imperial Guard coverage that makes it seem like a ww2/vietnam war documentary and has lots of well written nuggets. The Ravenor/Eisenhorn series are both fantastic.
Basically anything before the Horus Heresy Series became the mainstay is really worth a read. The Horus Heresy series itself is quite alright but there's some boring reads tucked in here/there. Experiment!
>>334875205
>>334875221
This thread is reserved for Astartes
Greenskins must get the fuck out before we open fire.
>>334864996
Black Fists, followed closely by Red/Blue Fists and Yellow Fists. Nova and UltraMarines claim 4th and 5th.
>>334875365
OI
DEM 'UMIES ARE LOOKING FOR A FIGHT!
>>334875031
>Word Bearers trilogy by Anthony Reynolds
The problem with the Word Bearers novels are the Word Bearers themselves. They are a bunch of fucking children. There was one funny exchange, though:
>MC is strapped to a rack and being horribly tortured by a Dark Eldar Homunculi
>hey what would happen if I die
>my boss would get mad at me, I guess
>tough luck then *snaps own neck*
>>334867357
Actually, the newest book included Harlequins. They wrote them as generic craftworlder eldar. Not single laugh or joke involved, it was all "stupid, ignorant mon'keigh" and "this Earth is more vile than Commorragh."
Probably the most disappointing BL book to date.
>>334875365
Dis Space Beakie be lookin for a scrap. Lemme squish dis 'ere humie beneath me boot and I'll get over der ta krump ya! You fink you'r armour is tuff but my Mega Armourz is ded 'ard!
>>334875756
Aren't the Harlequins the only Eldar that don't look down on humanity?
>>334875323
All good man, most of us are sleep depraved fucks this time of year anyhow.
>>334875051
One more thing Anon: theres a thing called the "AI Skirmish mod" (I think thats the name) for DC and SS: what it basically does is it unfucks the ai, meaning that it will now upgrade its units, produce a lot more of them and generally be more aggressive. While I wouldnt recommend it for your firtst runs, it might be of interest to you later. It does fuck with the campaign movies, though theres a fix, at least for Soulstorm.
>>334875834
Your scrap iron cannot hope to match against the vestments of the Adeptus Astartes, scum!
>>334875936
its more like they do whatever the fuck they want and get into danceoffs with grey knights
>>334875936
They generally give zero fucks about anyone non-eldar, focusing on their own survival and sense of humor. Some, like the Frozen Stars, enjoy slaughtering humans for kicks though.
>Laughs for the Laughs God!
Faction tierlist :
Tier 1 :
* Imperium (all factions but Inquisition/Mechanicus on top, followed by astarted)
* Orkz
* Nids
Tier 2 :
* Necrons
* Chaos
Tier 3 :
* Dark Eldars
* Eldars
Tier 4:
*Sisters of battle
Tier 5 :
*Tautists
>>334876119
Awesome, thanks anon
>>334875746
kek. I havent read them in a while, so I dont remember it but you're probably right.
>>334875936
>an Eldar not looking down on humanity
does not compute
>>334875746
Couldn't a Haemonculi easily fix that?
>>334875205
>>334875221
>>334876429
ain't no coming back once you die.
>>334876490
That's wrong though, they regenerate the dead all the time.
>>334855018
1st Hua Yuan Exterminators, reporting in.
>>334876146
Wat dat humie?! I can't hear ya over da our Dakka and krunch and splat of your puny armourz!
>>334876630
yes, eldar dead.
>>334870802
>mfw changing my computer password
Plans within plans....
OI YA GITZ, ITS TIME FER ONE OF ME FAVOURITE SONGS! LETS WAAAAAAAAGHHHHHH
>>334876724
One literally chopped up a regular human into dozens of tiny cubes of meat that he hung into a chandelir and yet managed to keep each piece fully functioning and aware of it's surroundings so the human could feel every second of agonizing pain each piece felt.
>>334876674
Fuck yeah!
>>334852394
oh yeah baby, a game with massive scale where armies get obliterated by massive war machines and demons hordes
>>334876936
until the soul drained out and the human died. A word bear already has his soul eaten by demons.
>>334876987
Death consuls and craftworld bel'aslyn when?
>>334876245
No problem m8, I hope you have a good time!
I almost forgot something (yes, one more goddamn thing); theres this series of books called Imperial Armour. Basically campaign books with their own stories. The first few ones dont have any overarching story but in the third one (I think) the writers start trying to basically make little pieces of 40k history. They usually have some nice illustrations of troops,which are the main reasons I even downloaded them.Its always the Imperium vs Something but the enemy is usually changed up inbetween each book. They migh be of interest to you. I'm reasonably sure you can find a torrent for them
>>334876987
Jesus Christ you're everywhere.
Keep tabs on the page tho, I'm going to put in some work.
>>334871016
First a space marine
Then a custodes
Then an immortal superman with infinite regeneration powers called a Perpetual, of which there are only a few (<10 in the galaxy), Vulcan, the Emperor, and himself being notable ones. His history also sounds like a list of Assassins Creed settings. He was an Argonaut with Jason, fought at Verdun, and Austerlitz, and in the Gulf War. He's also the last Catholic in the universe.
At least he is still dead and never coming back as far as we know.
>>334872115
>>334872378
>>334872503
correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the SoB barely tolerated and is mostly seen as a joke by the Imperium?
>>334877509
The closer finals are, the more I procrastinate, man.
>>334877168
>bel'aslyn
the fuck's that
>>334877569
its more like they are parade soldiers and largely used for propaganda. The order militants kick some serious ass but its largely because they are pampered soldiers with expensive body armor.
Guardsmen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sororitas.
>>334877690
Death consul 'allies'
>>334877295
Goddamn, there's a lot to WH40K isn't there?
Well I'll try my best to read as many books and finish as many games as I can.
One thing I never understood was the tabletop models.
>Why do they cost so much?
>You have to paint them yourself?
>you HAVE to order them online?
>people buy them?
I was actually thinking about getting just one or two just because they look cool, like amiibos, but do you actually have to paint them yourself?
>>334877569
Not at all. Why would you think that? They're the glorious warrior women of the Emperor's Holy Ecclesiarchy and the Chamber Militant of the Ordo Hereticus. They make miracles happen wherever they go based on the sheer amount of faith in the Emperor they inspire in people.
>>334877760
>Death consul 'allies'
Damn, I musta missed that. I swear I'll give it a shot after I get off my ass and work on the Sanguine Shields
>>334877959
eh, the CWE threads died soon. which was a shame.
>>334876429
The thing is that MC surprised him for a second and then he went and shattered his head or something
>>334877782
>Why do they cost so much?
Poor business model on the companies part
>You have to paint them yourself?
Make and paint yes
>you HAVE to order them online?
Only if you don't have a Games Workshop or Hobby store near you
>people buy them?
Yes. Some for make and paint, some to play.
>>334877782
>>Why do they cost so much?
GW management is literally insane and doesn't understand customer loyalty or long term business practices
>>You have to paint them yourself?
Yes, that is the best part of it. You're making your own unique army or models of your favorite dudes. The wargame is secondary. Unless you're a Tau player, probably.
>>you HAVE to order them online?
Only if you can't find what you want at your Hobby Shop or Game Store.
>>people buy them?
Yes.
>>334876429
No, only dark eldar can be regenerated. Essentially, if their souls are strong enough to linger after death, they can feed on the pain and begin regenerating, even if all that remains is just a hand.
>>334878094
Could always try to bring them back, but who knows how much interest that would garner. Hua Yuan was a big hit, and everyone got excited and went off making their own 'roll' threads, which exhausted tg. I'd give it a month or two before trying at one of these again
>>334877782
>>Why do they cost so much?
Because Games Workshop are greedy bastards
>You have to paint them yourself?
Yup
>you HAVE to order them online?
Not if you have a local game store, but if worse comes to worse, then get em off Ebay
>people buy them?
Apparently they do for some ungodly reason
>>334877782
Heh, yeah there is a lot to this particular franchise.
>Why do they cost so much?
Money, money, money.
>You have to paint them yourself?
Yeah, its actually pretty fun. Time consuming and expensive (the paint aint free) but fun.
>you HAVE to order them online?
I dunno how it is in other countries but here (the New Caliphate of Sweden) there are still stores around that sell them. I do remember hearing something about GW doing some shit with their online store though.
>people buy them?
It is, unless something has changed since last I checked, one of the biggest tabletop games, yes.
>>334878425
>>334876429
All I want
Literally all I want in a game
Is Total Warhammer 40k
That's it
And I'll never get it
