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Was it really designed for casuals? I remember "go back to counterstrike" and "cs kiddie" as popular e-insults in the early 2000s
it was just popular
>>334846682
I started playing during Beta 1 in what, 99? I was 12 back then so my memory is shitty and I was definitely not as good of a player.
If I remember right, it was one of the first major mods for HL1. It was more "realistic" than HL's team death match or TFC or Quake.
Was it designed for casuals? I can't really answer that. With the round system it was more punishing than most other games at the time.
>>334847059
>With the round system it was more punishing than most other games at the time.
that's a negative, ghost rider
>>334847278
How is that wrong?
>>334847431
the fact that if you're playing against someone in quake or unreal and they're better than you you are never going to get a non shit weapon or any valuable pick up
in cs you're guaranteed to eventually get a magnum sniper rifle or whatever
>>334847758
>its good design for you to get powerful weapons and spawn kill people who start with weak weapons
>>334847758
That's a negative, ghost rider
Valve hats.
That's the only reason that shit game is even a word today. It has never been a good game.
>>334847758
I recall there were balancing issues in the first few betas where if a team kept losing from the get go, they wouldn't get enough money to get out of the SMG range unless they went stock pistol for a few rounds.
>>334847930
he was not talking about good design but about the fact that CS was not the most punishing game at the time
>>334846682
>fun maps servers are forever gone
>>334848119
Css and csgo had a bunch of custom servers
>>334848069
confirmed for never playing de_jeeps
>>334848119
I miss GoldSRC's wonky ass vehicle physics. They were so much fun
Hitscan weapons were seen as unskillful back then.
How times change.
>>334848030
>>334847930
>>334847278
>trying to talk to ignorant niggers who can't even formulate a coherent though
>random spray
>have to stop moving to have any sort of accuracy
Yeah it's casual shit.
>>334848190
I was the asshole that always sunk the boat in crazytank3. I would kill to go back and play those maps again
>>334848401
>wahh i wanna jump around and point n click ;.;
>>334848440
I was the asshole who always played ct on cs_siege when they had the APC that one beta and would drive over the bridge and kill everyone in the back of the APC then either drive into the tunnel in the canyon and camp or glitch into the skybox and snipe fuckers
>>334848523
>wahhh moving and shooting is too hard for me to do ;_;
>>334847758
>in cs you're guaranteed to eventually get a magnum sniper rifle or whatever
that's a load of shit, it would take you about 5 rounds (without kills or buying ANYTHING) to afford anything decent, and once you buy it, if you are killed anyway then it's back to waiting for the round to finish so you can respawn, then save up for another 5 rounds
meanwhile in quake you die, respawn 2 seconds later, and can instantly get the same powerful weaponry that the opponent has by grabbing a spawn
I get you want to seem "hardcore", but saying that quake has more punishing deaths than CS is flat out retarded
>>334848107
Wrong, if the other team has won the first 3 rounds or so, you're gonna have to save for a while, especially on CT side. These save rounds essentially give them even more free rounds just for the chance to buy on one round, which you could lose and have even shittier eco than when you started.
>>334848696
No retard, its too fucking easy
>>334848696
>CoD is hard
>>334846682
It's the community, not the game. CS, even back in the day, had a tendency to suck in the most retarded and toxic fanbase ever and that was probably why it was an insult. It was not a knock on the game itself (it was always a pretty competently assembled mod).
>>334848809
>doing two things at once is easier than doing one thing at a time
lel
>>334848727
>and can instantly get the same powerful weaponry that the opponent has by grabbing a spawn
Not if your opponent knows what they're doing.
>>334848863
>implying I said that
At least CoD doesn't have random sprays though.
>>334848884
>it's the community
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_VtIkF8pDY
>>334848727
>meanwhile in quake you die, respawn 2 seconds later, and can instantly get the same powerful weaponry that the opponent has by grabbing a spawn
Yeah dude because the guy that's kicking your ass surely won't have control of the spawns or simply kill you with his better weapon while you have a shitty machine gun or enforcer
Can we all at least agree that WON was superior to Steam?
Can someone who plays CS GO explain to me why a gun had to be nerfed into the ground for being "too accurate"? I'm talking about the r8 of course
>>334849047
REEEE
>>334848913
Yes doing 2 EASY things is easier than 1 hard thing
>>334848119
>surf
>climb
>catch
>wc3 mod
>superhero mod
Those were the days man.
>>334849216
because good players like me made everyone my bitch.
>>334849410
>random sprays
>an element of chance goes into every gunfight
>somehow CS is the hardest, most skill based shooter because of this.
toppest of keks
>>334849216
It was an instakill to the body and the head at any distance. Basically like the AWP in pistol form. It was nerfed tho
>>334849530
stop posting my webms fag
>>334849594
>lel random guiz XD
>even though you can have accurate shots if you don't run around and shoot like crazy
Git gud shitter
>>334849679
make me faggot
>>334849850
hey free publicity fag, thanks for the recognition <-)
>>334849801
Counter Strike shitters never cease to amaze me. It must be hard to accept the game you've invested so much time in has just as much chance based gameplay as CoD does.
>>334849216
Pistol mobility, unparalleled accuracy while running, 90+ bodyshots, all for the price of $850 (three to five times cheaper than regular weapons).
>>334849967
Funny cause CoD takes more skill than your dead arena games, get fucked
>>334849940
anything for you sexymonster ;)
>>334850172
Too bad I'm not the guy arguing Quake takes more skill.
At least you accept CS is casual shit and the first step to recovery is acceptance.
>>334849481
>warcraft 3 mod
what?
>>334850490
>he never played it back in the day
You missed out.
>>334850421
Oh please my skilled master, what game must thy play to not be casual :(
>>334846682
Ever since childhood when I look at this pic I cant help but see a balding dude with a head trauma
>>334848119
What you don't like de_dust2? Are you a casual?
>>334848401
CS doesn't have random spray patterns, each gun has its own spray pattern. Its arbitrary and unintuitive, but thats how it is.
>>334849094
yes
>>334846682
Designed for casuals? I wouldn't say so, it was a mod that was designed to be more 'realistic' and 'tactical' than the other shooters around at the time. Revisionists would certainly like you to think that though.
It was and still is a popular game though, anyone that played games on PC had at least heard of it during its peak. Naturally, this attracted retards to it and in larger numbers, which would sometimes spill over into other games. I remember playing HL1/HL2 mods like Empires, Dystopia and Insurgency when it was still a mod, and people hating on 'cs kiddies' because of their obnoxious behaviour and general lack of desire to learn the game and how things worked, though those people still kinda begrudgingly liked the game for the most part.
>>334850563
I feel sad now.
>>334847758
Ironically this is pretty much why arena shooters are dead. People playing Quake and UT for a decade are basically gods and newbies don't stand a chance, eliminating new blood in the games. No one wants to play because they can't play competitively. Git gud doesn't even apply to old school shooters any more because the skill ceiling is too high for people to get into it..
>>334847930
>better player beats worse player
>bad game design
?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eBzfxt3UqLs
interesting topic anon
at the time cs was released i hated it (with the exception of beta 3 because i somewhat enjoyed the spassmic FN P90 rushing),
because at that time i allready played Rainbow Six online and from that perspective CS was more casual since it had money and buying which was pretty much the progressive perks of that time compared to the raw rainbow six.
rainbow six also had punishing round based gameplay so you cant say CS wasnt casual because it was round based. Money attracted the less stern and commited audience because it gave some kind of reward to the mongos, just like the demon rune in doom 4
>>334846682
It was definitely much slower and simpler than the arena shooters of its era, but over time CS developed into a game that's demanding in completely different areas than those games.
Arena shooters are generally more about mastering projectile-based weapons and accurately hitting fast-moving targets, all while moving quickly yourself and controlling the map.
CS is more about teamplay, accurately hitting slow-moving targets with largely inaccurate hitscan weapons and trying to methodically occupy or defend certain areas of the map.
>>334852181
>spawn camping
>skill
>>334849481
I fucking miss surf and kreedz. Not sure if I'm willing to buy csgo for never and inferior version of that, though.
>>334852079
FIND FLOW
>>334853716
Explain why csgo has inferior surf
>>334853978
csgo's movement in general is fucked
way too slow, rigid and full of intertia
the price of realism I suppose
>>334847758
>Start playing Quake
>Opponent is a veteran and is better than you in every way
>Game makes it even worse by giving you shittier guns so you won't ever have a chance
>Good design
I dance on the grave of arena shooters
>>334855804
If you're dueling someone out of your league its your own fault. Its not hard to pick up guns in FFA.
>>334856113
>If you're being spawnkilled by someone out of your league before you can even grab a good weapon its your own fault
>>334856325
Do you know how spawns in arena shooters work?
>>334846682
It always was, why you think the new game is filled with people only because they wanna become internet celebrities and hats? It's the cesspool of PC shooters.
