Name a single time that a shield is viable in this game.
All the time.
>>334837760
When you use it.
Shield is for short combos or when you can't/don't know how to dodge an attack, otherwise use dodge.
>>334837760
You can make the dancer do little to no damage to you with it.
>>334837760
Grass Crest Shield on your back whenever you two hand
>take knight class
>take sovereignless soul gift
>beat the tutorial
>spend all your souls on stamina
>you can now beat the black goop snake hollows in High Wall without ever rolling or taking damage
Was this so hard?
>>334837760
probably against every enemy, because they all act like rabid fucking dogs
someone post the sheev webm
>>334837760
Archers. That's really it.
>>334837760
when you 2h a weapon while using a grass crest shield
>>334837760
All the way through.
>>334837760
Havel's.
Literally everywhere.
Probably about 80% of the game. Likely even more with greatshields.
>>334839135
I stopped using shields in snow land when one of those shieldless sword knights wouldn't stop fucking attacking and draining all of my stamina.
>>334839218
>not just running at them while slightly going left/right before they shoot
>>334839573
P
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>>334839643
I'd rather just stand back and let them run into my charged R2.
>>334839849
then you're a faggot and not my bro
Target Shield.
>tfw can't beat the tree
I haven't tried too many times but man, I keep misreading his tells because I can't see it coming. I get pretty far but every time I misread because I was too close, I lose a huge chunk of health
One of them was also a bullshit death
Is DS3 good?
My dad broke my PS4 last night because I called him a cuck for letting my sister date a black guy, so I can't really play it right now.
>>334840393
Play it on your PC , you cuck.
>>334840442
He took away the monitor.
Knight Shield trivializes the first half of the game
>>334840496
plug it into your TV
>>334837760
A shield won't be useful if you only hold it by a single strap, dummy. Put your arm through the first one as well.
>>334840546
We don't have a TV.
>>334840243
I just summoned a couple phantoms and they beat the boss for me hehe
>>334837760
It helps a lot against the twin princes whenever he teleports behind you.
I finished the game without using a shield, big part of it is that I got used to roll to dodge everything thanks to my 200+ hours in Bloodborne
>>334840748
Well, kill yourself then.
>>334840748
>no tv
>buys a ps4
>>334839643
Speaking of, how do I parry with the rapier? I have no idea when I'm supposed to parry and no idea of how many frames the parry is.
havels greatshield makes nameless king a joke
>>334840393
That's not how cuckoldry works and you know it.
>>334841458
Shouldn't be surprised someone from /v/ uses words whose meaning they ignore.
>>334841112
Is it in your offhand?
I use an offhand one and the parry frames are pretty much as soon as I hit it. It's fast and really great for it.
Fuck off
I ain't falling for the Shield Meme
>hold up shield
>enemy unloads into me
>breaks guard
the only reason the shield is probably working for all these casuals is because they are going through the game with Dark swords and katanas
>>334841984
Using shield doesn't mean you are not allowed to roll.
Shield is additional insurance not a way to tank everything.
And even if you want to tank everything, I assume that great shields and boosting end would have some good results.
>>334837760
Getting attacked by dogs.
Any mob without a huge weapon is blockable.
Used a great shield against the first BK. And East West against the Crystal Sage. Other than that it's really only useful against weak enemies
>>334837760
I need a shield for certain areas. That stairway after the room with the Gwynevere painting for example. Those fucking dogs just don't stop attacking, jesus christ. Running away for a breather is useless too, it's like they fucking teleport to you
>>334837760
All those times I blocked attacks from enemies and didn't get damaged.
>>334837760
Nameless King. Srsly, equipping the dragonslayer shield makes this fight a joke.
>>334837760
Almost every moment that doesn't involve pvp
I can't tell if these hyper aggressive enemies are a good thing or not. It's definitely smells of bloodborne's enemy design but without the added benefit of being as agile as the The Hunter.
>>334837760
PVP against longsword shiters, block the first hit then parry the second, always works
>>334837760
Other than parrying, I only used a shield to block against Nameless King cause for some reason I couldn't get the timing on my rolls just right.
>>334837760
Why do these characters look so crisp and sharp while mine looks like something out of a 2007 xbox game?? All graphix setting are set to max btw.
>>334844848
are your textures set to high or ultra
>>334844665
I think they went way too overboard with how aggressive some enemies are. It's fine and all in Bloodborne since you can get your health back by attacking, but in Dark souls 3 you can't. So whenever you get into a situation where you're fighting 2 or 3 enemies at the same time and their attacks are slightly off time with each other, you get stunlocked and lose a bunch of health.
That being said, enemies don't have that much HP and are easily staggered, so it's just a matter of getting used to it. I know my first playthrough I was hiding behing my fag shield all the time, and now on my second playthrough, I only used them for parrying basically. And for dogs. Fuck the dogs
Why are the final areas of the game so fucking unfun
>>334845484
But they are fun, Anon. You are just bad at the game.
>>334844848
bullshot. news at 11
>>334845623
>The dragon area
>the archives
>fun
okay lad
>>334838164
This
>>334846020
git gud
The only kinda unfun area was Semon Ruins.
>>334837760
Against most common enemies and several bosses.
Where do you findSirris'grave?
I did her questline but can't find her shit anywhere in Firelink
They are useful for stunning dogs because they always do that flurry shit but have no weight behind it so shields stop them immediately and make it simple to kill them. Same with some smaller enemies but in all other situations rolling is superior. I was using the Stone Parma because it looks cool with my armor and has 100% block but I'm thinking of going to Grass Crest even though it fucks with my outfit, or just going full shieldless.
>>334845484
Don't worry anon, you are right.
>>334841984
I love invading people who hide behind their shield because I just eat all their stamina with two-handed Battle Axe swings and get that sweet crit when their guard inevitably breaks.
Now that I think about it, what's the soft cap for endurance? I want to dump my shit into END and swing for days
Dragon Crest Shield is great in this game since like all the bosses have fire attacks.
This is all that is wrong with this game
I really think the devs realized that making a Bloodborne clone doesn't work in Dark Souls, that's why they made everything that wouldn't work like shields, slow weapons and magic even MORE shit so as to completely discourage players from using them so they don't see they actually wouldn't work because of game design
>>334845118
Everything is as high as it can go
>>334847269
use the knight slayer ring
people who hold up shields are basically free kills
also no one ever expects you to kick
>>334846208
>git gud
How does not getting killed in archives make it less shit?
>curse hands everywhere are a non threat and essentially constrict half the area into a tiny hallway
>slow ass candle enemies that can't do anything fast enough to damage you much less save their lives
>sage teleporting around like the world's biggest faggot spamming crystal rain hoping for free hits
>everything may as well be pitch black
>shitty gargoyles that dive off the roof and die despite having wings
>another one of those annoying sweep spamming ice knights instead of a new unique tough enemy
>a minimum of eight fucking ceiling hiding hat fags that now have glowing axes so you every single ambush from a mile away
What the fuck was even done right there?
>>334846903
Graves near Iundex Gundyr
>>334847476
Sweet, will do.
Also I'm so fucking glad kicking is back, it simply feels better than that pansy-ass backhand shit in DaS2
>>334840809
Same. Fuck that shitty ass fungus infested bastard.
>>334847561
>>curse hands everywhere are a non threat and essentially constrict half the area into a tiny hallway
Someone didn't take a dip.
The only thing that bothers me about the game is when they auto teleport you out of areas after certain events.
I wanted to explore Aldritch's boss room after beating him, nope, teleported to the high wall to fight the Dancer.
I wanted to explore the Ancient Wyvern's boss arena after fighting him, nope, teleported out of the area.
Kind of irritating. The boss should drop something that teleports you when activated.
>>334847159
Is that tarkus?
>>334847321
Shields are as powerful as they ever should be. You can already block through most bosses. Dspgaming the retard blocked through Pontiff fight almost 100%.
DESU senpai, if you don't bring a smal lshield into pvp its an auto lose.
>>334847721
>dude just take a wax bath
I'm not going to smother myself in semen to avoid being tickled by ghosts, you magnanimous queer.
>>334847754
>teleported out of ancient wyvern
>to a room five feet away
>just to refresh the enemies
Whatever stupid cocksucker thought this made sense needs to be killed.
>>334847878
Don't complain about the books then. They are just doing their jobs.
Catacombs of carthus and demon ruins under smouldering lake are literally tileset dungeons. Its like they got tired of reusing assets in creative ways and just hit copy paste.
>>334837760
I block long range pokes with a shield on my DEX build. I die in one hit so I need that shit. Level 66 without a point in vigor.
>>334838164
>not shield of wat
>>334847781
You literally have a webm of a mob taking almost the entire stamina bar in one hit >>334847159 from the shield of want, no shields are not "as powerful as they shouled ever be" not when dodges are so ridiculously easy to perform
>>334847778
Just an enemy in later areas.
So, reading this thread I could assume that I would git gudder not using a shield and learning how2dodge?
>>334848786
>needing increased souls gained
>not running around with 100k+ at all times
are you shit or something?
>>334848874
To beat any Souls game you HAVE to learn to dodge.Or learn to summon.
Shield in DS1 were overpowered as fuck and basically babbied you all PvE. I've been saying this for years.
>>334848874
In my opinion there's tons of i frames in the roll. Learn to dodge and it's gg.
>>334848959
I was thinking about learning how to parry since I was always shit with that, that's why I am asking.
>>334848959
that's 100% bullshit
in DS1 shields made you invincible, no fancy dodges needed
You really need to learn the difference between viable and optimal OP.
>>334845484
don't know anon, I'm enjoying later areas more than mid-game
mid-game is literal trash in this one
>>334837760
>Glass crest shield
>Two handing your weapon
>>334849138
I've only heard bad things about parrying in this game unless it's with the Uchi. I can confirm Uchi has a large parry window. Nuthin's personal one you realize that.
>>334849306
>Glass
Couldn't tell ya.
I haven't used a shield since learning how powerful it was in Dark Souls 2.
In 3 its fucking overpowered and godlike as fuck. I rarely if ever get hit besides PvP.
>>334849936
learning how powerful rolling was*
Fuck.
>>334838164
Grass Crest is trash tier garbage in Dark 3. It's resistances are shit, it has the weight of a fucking kite shield despite being so shit, and the stamina regen is so fucking minimal you're better off just not wearing it to lose the extra weight.
Any effect you think it's having on your gameplay is purely a placebo from your memories of how good it use to be, you are better off wearing a fucking buckler you'll never block with because it least it's half the weight.
Chugging grass is the only way you're going to get a worthwhile boost to your stamina regen, so if you're still wearing Grass Crest or Chloranthy save yourself the slots and don't/
>>334848810
It's two handing an ultra greatsword, dude.
>>334848810
It was about half the stamina bar
Also
>huge enemy with a Guts sized sword
Do you really expect to block through more than two hits?
I dont even get why this is a problem ?
What I learned from dark souls 1 was that shields make you slower and do less damage.
Then I replayed the game over and over and never once considered using a shield, except maybe for fashun.
Then came Dark souls 2 and again, never once did I try to equip a shield because its the same mechanics over and over.
Same with dark souls 3, I started assassin tho and the target shield has been pretty useful for parrying but I dont parry that much anyway.
just 2 hand your weapon
>>334849138
It's a risk and reward thing.
Dodge is less risky. A parry miss may cost you a whole fight. It's up to you. I'd say dodge is more important since not everything can be parried, but everything can be dodged.
is shield parry good in this game
how many frames is the timing?
Crest/Dragon Crest were invaluable against Aldrich and Demon King
>>334848810
You should probably use an upgraded greatshield if you want to block everything with little stamina reduction.
>>334848874
Shield is to be extra layer of safety for times when you mistime your rolls, but you still need to learn to dodge.
So you will have to learn to be better at rolling without shield, but using shield is easier.
Okay, educate me on the best dodging times.
I'm usually good at it but I guess I'm mis-timing rolls in form 2 of abyss watchers, he always hits me out of rolls or the fire still gets me.
>>334853983
The timing and direction of the dodge/roll depends on the type of swing he makes.
>>334853983
Hold L1, lock on, roll.
Even if you mistime your roll your shield eats most of the damage.
>>334854348
Pretty sure you can still be caught between, and in some cases do that but have your guard eat the hit and the buffer cause you to roll afterwards and eat up all of your stamina
Greatshield/Estoc > Everything in both pvp and pve
Whenever you press L1/LB (equipped on left hand)
>>334854550
In that case you are probably far away enough to wait and regain your stamina.
>>334851581
Against swarming hollows and dogs, shields are a must, especially till you get some levels in HP.
Is there a single enemy in DaS3 with a tail that you can cut off?
>>334844848
Your graphics card is junk.
>Fighting Nameless King/any boss
>Phone rings/doorbell rings/somebody in your home needs something
>>334848874
for sure you'd be better learning to dodge than constantly relying on a shield. Espeically late game were enemy combos would chew through your entire stamina bar and guard break you. or getting hit by a boss combo and guard broken.
The top tier Great Shields are pretty good actually.
