Now the ashe has settled. Can we all agree that
DaS > DaS3 > DeS > BB > DaS2
??
DaS > DeS > BB > DaS3
King's Field>DaS3>BB>DeS>DaS>DaS2
DS3=BB>DS1>DeS
DS2 is on its own fucking planet
BB>DS>DeS>DS3>DS2
>>334835493
>king's field
>special snowflake opinion
saged
>>334835592
This
BB Old Hunters > DS3 > DS1 Artorias of the Abyss > DeS > DS2 Scholar of the First Sin
If we only compare the Vanila versions it would be.
DS3 > BB > DeS > DS1 > DS2
DaS > Das3=BB=DeS > a gap the size of the grand canyone > DaS2
And the gap between DaS1 and the rest of them isn't even that big for me. I just love all of these games to death. Except 2. Fuck 2 forever, and fuck any contrarian hipster apologist shill who has a problem with that.
DS3 > DaS > Bloodborne > DeS > DaS2
DaS3 > DaS > BB > DeS >>>>> DaS2
DaS 3 > BB = DaS > DeS > DaS2
Putting BB second to last is a sure sign that you havnt played it you know
BB > Das3 once dlc is out > Demon's > Das > Das 2
>>334834484
I don't know why but I hate these gay ass abbreviations so god damn much. Fuck.
BB > DaS > DeS > DaS3 > DaS2
>>334834484
DaS2 is fucking garbage in comparison to DaS3.
Like, oh my god. I thought it was shit before, but now...
DaS>>DaS>>>DeS>>DaS2>BB
Bloodborne will forever be my favorite.
DaS3>DeS>DaS>DaS bootleg
Why are so many people rating DS3 so highly with its regressive Demon's Souls combat and total lack of mood or atmosphere? Souls games really shouldn't have sequels.
>>334835834
I think you're right but ultimately comparing the vanilla games doesn't do much for us only shows how far a game can be improved with patches and additional content. In that case it would be unfair to even include DS3 until the game is "done". I'm a little baffled now that I realise a game isn't finished until after its release.
DS1 is a little too overrated. Maybe because it was the entry point for most people.
DS3=BB>DeS>DS2>DS1
>>334834484
DkS2 > DeS > DkS3 > DkS
i hate everything after anor londo that much
>>334836215
Retard alert.
>>334836039
Already was posted m8
>>334836129
>Souls games really shouldn't have sequels
this fucking board and its pseudo-game developers
DaS>DeS>Bloodborne>DaS3>DaS2
Lol at everyone trying to convince themselves that 3 is that much of a step up from 2.
>>334836248
Please don't respond to obvious bait it's what they want
>>334836248
>hurr durr he's a retard cause he doesn't hivemind with neo/v/
>>334836308
3 is a big step up from 2, though your order is correct.
>>334836308
It's a huge fucking step up. DaS3 is what DaS2 should've been.
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> dark souls 2>dark souls 3> dark souls 1
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> dark souls 3>dark souls 1>dark souls 2
PVP
> dark souls 2>dark souls 3> dark souls 1
DaS1>BS3=BB>DeS>>>>>DS2
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BB>DS3>DS1>DeS>DS2
>>334836308
psst anon, everyone is aware that dark souls 3 shitposters are just shitposting since its a really fun game, just letting you know
BB > DaS3 > DaS > DaS2 > DeS
>>334834484
OP is correct. Why do you all reply with wrong opinions?
>>334836449
This is b8.
>>334836137
Yes it was my intention to show how games like DS1 and BB got much better with DLC, if we compared DS2 post DLC to DS1 vanilla, DS2 would be better.
But BB wasn't really "unfinished" before its DLC, and DS3 also feels like a complete game.
Both aren't messes like vanilla DS1 and vanilla DS2 which were obviously rushed for release.
Plus we already know the new game will be getting one or more DLC expansions, so there is a decent change that I'll be placing it above BB Old Hunters after DLC season.
>>334834484
I would say DaS3 > BB > DaS1 > DeS > DaS2.
People tend to forget how much Dark Souls 1 falls apart at the end, with areas like Crystal Caves, The Demon Ruins, and lost Izalith being really shitty and mostly just asset reuse. It was still my favorite game of all time until DaS3 came out (however I believe playing DaS1 a requirement to get the most out of DaS3), but it was deeply flawed in places.
DaS>DeS>DaS 3>BB>DaS 2
I consider DeS>DaS 3 because atmosphere and level design. DaS 3 has DaS 2 syndrome where the world is connected for no reason because no shortcuts/alternative paths to areas and teleporting from the start.
>>334836648
on what charges? let me guess
>le dark souls 2 is shit may may
here's a challenge faggot, find me ANY dialogue from the dark souls series that is nearly as philosophical, intricate and powerful and rich story wise in the whole fucking saga, I dare you double nigger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_9G4CG8N48
>>334836631
It is impossible for BB to be considered worse than DeS, it is a complete improvement.
>>334836550
>he doesn't gobble up what From shits on his plate like me, he must be a shitposter.
Fuck off, 3 is barely better than 2. It suffers from a bunch of the same problems that 2 had and everyone here is just sucking its dick since it just came out. Once some of you faggots actually finish the game and give it a few months you'll realize what a big pile of mediocrity it is.
I for one am glad the series is ending with 3, it's obvious they've completely ran out of interesting things to do with these games.
>>334834484
I still think DkS2 was the best game after all the DLC.
BB > DS3 > DeS > DS1 > DS2
>>334836896
How the fuck can you prefer the story is DaS2 over anything else. It was fucking shit. You'd have to either be trolling or downright retarded. DeS, DaS, BB and DaS3 all shit on everything in DaS2, especially the story.
DaS3>BB>DaS1>Shit>More Shit>DaS2
People who rate DaS1 higher than BB and DaS3 forget about the awful second part and MMO-like enemies.
I'd say
DaS1>DaS3=BB>DeS>>>DaS2
I'm so happy das3 was really good
No it's DS1 = DeS > DS3 > BB > dog shit > DS2
>>334836832
DaS3 honestly felt a lot like Demon's souls set in the world of Dark Souls to me. There is generally only one way in and out of each area and areas don't really loop back around to each other with the exception of Farron Woods, but each area loops back around on itself like mad and shortcuts are more abundant than they have ever been.
>>334836449
I dunno about story, but you've a good point with the rest. DaS2 had amazing PvP with the sheer variety of options, and how magic and pyromancy were still pretty good (though I haven't heard anything of the latter being bad in 3). Helped that you could kill enemies till they stopped spawning in PvP zones. DaS3 could be even better with some balancing, and new weapon options, since the controls are tighter than ever now. DaS1's wasn't bad, but the controls and overall speed just felt funny.
Also DaS3 has the best bosses for certain. Thinking back, they all seem like they'd be way harder than the other two, though I haven't gone back to play them yet. Less gimmicky than some in 1, and less giant-dude-in-armor and copy-pastes than 2.
1 had the best world though, I vehemently stand by this.
DaS=DeS=BB>DaS3=DaS2
>>334837102
DaS2 SOFS wasnt shit fuck off /v/ memeing pleb
BB doesnt belong in there
DeS is debateble
DaS2 SOFS = DaS1 > DaS3
DaS3 with DLC > DaS SOFS = DaS1
fuck BB fuck DeS
>>334837103
DaS1 had by far the best story and atmosphere for me and BB and DaS3 had areas I didn't particularly enjoy too.
Plus the best world interconnection and design, BB's areas weren't as diverse and DaS3's weren't as tightly designed, there was a lot of pointless space and free loot.
DaS > BB > DeS > DaS III > > > DaSII
DaS III will probably jump a notch higher with the DLC but as is I wasn't captivated by the story or the lore like I was with the other games and I felt that it had less feelsy moments than the other games. Other than that, I like DaSIII combat the most but the build/weapon balance is shit right now and it might be fixed with future patches.
>>334834484
Yes, except I wouldn't rank BB herebecause I haven't played it
DaS will remain as the only game where I truly felt like I was on an adventure across a dying world.
Teleportation ruined that.
>>334834484
Ive only played bloodborne and now das3 and I think das3 is better.
>>334837518
Yes it was shit. It was DaS2 with different enemy placements and a few new things that didn't really matter in the long run.
>>334837102
DS2 Scholar of the First Sin, is very good and stands up with the other games, the DLC areas are incredibly well designed and Aldia is one of the best written characters of the series.
Hating it is a meme now. Its not the best game of the series by a long shot, but it is BY NO MEANS anything short of a great game.
>>334834484
BB=DeS>DaS>DaS3>DaS2
Only right answer
DS3>DS2/BB>DS1>Des
Demon Souls was very lacking in gameplay and customization, game balance was not good as well. Stop dwelling on past glories, this is as unbiased as I can get.
>>334835606
>not liking King's Field
underage shit that didn't start playing From games until the le epic "prepare to die XD" pc version detected.
>>334837102
If you are braindead it's not my fault, I challenged you, you didn't even take it, you are just memeing and parroting what others say all the time with no backing it up.
Yes, it may be shallow on the level design part, it may throw you billions of enemies for no reason, but it carries a message that a million times more powerful than "lol muh lord of hollows XDD" or "muh age of dark serpiento with ambiguously evil laugh kekekeke!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McofBOpPw40
Dark souls 1 and 3 are nothing but shallow props that set the stage for an anonymous aventure of you being toyed with forces that you cannot control, dark souls 2 gives you a light at the end of the tunnel, it gives you a reason to go on, you see everyone failing but they are willing to guide you to the truth, you end the game with the three crowns that togheter with the 4 lord souls(the actual souls from lordran) allow you to say FUCK YOU to the cycles, FUCK YOU to the serpents, FUCK YOU to the firelinking curse, you make your OWN fucking path with the crown and Aldia's guidance that make you unable to hollow ever, paired with the fact that you are undead you are fucking invincible, and what does dark souls 3 do with all of these facts? LOL NEVER HAPPENED LMAO!
Pathetic.
Miyazaki is a hack, I'll repeat it, staying vague and criptic for the sake of it, no true ending in 3, just the same copypasted bullshit, simply pathetic, watch as the 5th ending gets magically added later on as DLC and it parrots dark souls 2, I can already see it coming, but of course, people like you will always bitch and moan at the slight change in things, "muh lore", yeah enjoy that pole up your anus.
>>334837706
Nice meme. The DLC was just as terrible as the main game. All the enemies were retarded and uninspired and felt very samey, and the bosses weren't special neither.
Retards like you are just being contrarian because you think it makes you cool when it just makes you look retarded for preferring such a inferior game.
bb>ds3>des>ds1/d2
i was bloodborne was on pc though. after playing ds3, it'll be hard to go back to sub30 fps
>>334837791
Kill yourself. I'm dead serious.
Assuming you're not trolling, you have incredibly shitty fucking taste in video games.
>>334837836
You are the only memer here, parroting memer with no brain of your own, kill yourself.
>>334836937
DaS3 had none of the problems of two though, character movement and animations were back to the way they were in every other game rather than the floaty awkward animations of DaS2, the proper souls level design returned and the game focused on world and atmosphere again rather than a gauntlet of rectangular rooms full of way more enemies than they have any right too. DaS2 was literally Namcos prepare to die marketting made into a game without any of what made the previous games great, DaS2 had good armor variety and PvP but that's it. DaS3 is a more polished and consistant version of DaS1 and after finishing NG+ and letting it settle in for a few days I am confident that it sits beside Bloodborne as thr pinnacle of the series.
And no, the DaS2 DLC wasn't good, it had good level design, but that was ruined by the classic DaS2 enemyspam making the game hard for the sake of being hard and nothing else.
>>334837921
>still no comeback
>still hasn't brought dialogue and story bits more significant than those
Glad you accepted your official BTFO status faggot.
DaS > BB > DeS > DaS3 (I believe in the DLC but for now it's here.) >>> DaS2
DS1=BB>DS3>DeS>>>>>>>>>>>DS2
>>334838013
This isn't a game, you stupid retard. You simply have really shit taste in video games and everyone here can see that.
There's nothing more to argue about.
ALL HAIL THE ONE TRUE RANKING (games include all dlcs if aplicapble)
DS > BB > DES > DS3 > DS2
>>334838204
Yep.
BB + TOH > DaS3 > DaS + AotA > BB vanilla > DeS > DaS1 vanilla > DaS2 (all)
>>334838425
Can everyone stop doing this please?
>>334838176
not him, but are you going to say why his taste is shit?
>>334838556
No, retard. Anyone who's played all three games already know why he has shit taste.
>>334834484
>Das3 better than both sony exclusives
Gee who could be this desperate.....
>>334838618
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this is what /v/ has become
>>334836832
>DaS 3 has DaS 2 syndrome where the world is connected for no reason
This is load of bullshit.
You can see every fucking area you go through from start to finish from any high point in the game.
>>334837791
Without even getting into how fucking stupid and childish that plot is, one thing I'd like to point out is how the fuck, exactly, are you making a path when you're the only person in the world who gets lolmagicalcurseimmunity?
Literally what is the fucking point of being the only one immune to hollowing. It'd be like being the last person left alive on Earth. It'd be fucking pointless and the best thing to do would be to kill yourself.
By "breaking" the curse for yourself and yourself alone, you haven't actually accomplished jack shit. It's meaningless. I don't see why the fuck you're treating this like it's some mind-blowing shit.
DkS2 > DkS3 > BB > DeS > DkS
>>334838758
Go back to your high school debate club if you're just looking to argue with people for the sake of arguing.
DaS2 is objectively shit compared to DeS, DaS, BB and DaS3.
>>334837779
>>334835493
this guy thinks the first album by a band is always the best
Real talk tho
DaS2 = BB > DeS > DaS > DaS3
>>334838898
it's ironic because you're castigating me for doing the exact thing you've been doing.
previous anon provided you with reasons why he thought DaS2 was a strong game, and all you've said in return was "no you're a retard and YOU know why"
i think it's time to stop posting, my man
>>334834484
Why is Demon Souls so perfect?
>>334838898
Dude if at least I had claimed that DS2 was better than the others in my post >>334837706 , but you seem to have a problem with people calling DS2 "not shit", even through it really isn't shit, I mean, its ok if you didn't like it, but this alone doesn't make the game "objectively" shit.
>>334835941
I hava platinum on it retard
>>334839159
Yeah, it is. So stop posting, and refine your taste while you're at it.
>>334836129
>regressive Demon's Souls combat
It has BB combat, what are you talking about?
DaS > DaS3 > DeS > DaS2 = BB
>>334839236
Compared to the games that came before and after it, yes, it is shit. If it wasn't called Dark Souls 2 and instead called Fuck My Ass While I Put On All These Useless Cloths And Weapons 2, then it'd be fine.
>>334839429
What did it do worse than DaS
? And try to sound the least butthurt as possible when describing your reasons.
>>334834484
BB=DaS3 > DaS = DeS > DaS2
BB is its own thing.
DaS 3 > DaS > DeS
>>334834484
BB>DS3>DaS>DeS>DS2
People complain DS3 is too linear but that's only because you look at area to area progression, the areas themselves are way better designed and more intricate and expansive than DaS was by a long shot. Also I'm almost positive you can walk from the High Wall of Lothric all the way down to Smouldering Lake if you wanted (minus flying from the wall to the undead settlement) so it even has that vertical world design everyone loves. Lastly winged knight twin axes are the tightest shit ever
>>334834484
>DS3
>that high
Literally kill yourself. Play through the game more than once. I've never been bored with a souls game so quickly.
>>334839514
Controls.
Combat.
Art direction.
Graphics.
Encounter design.
Bosses.
Level design.
World design.
Mood/atmosphere.
Setting.
NPCs.
Dialogue.
Progression.
Everything.
>>334839514
Literally everything. It's the Force Awakens of the Souls series.
Nothing more than bad fanfiction.
BB>DaS>DeS>DaS3>DaS2
>>334839514
Arbitrarily shit controls because 'it's supposed to be hard'.
That's honestly my biggest gripe with ds2. It doesn't even feel good to control your damn character, let alone fight enemies.
>>334838981
not the person you are fighting with, but I thoroughly enjoyed the kings field series growing up. Sure its nowhere near as polished as miyazaki's later titles but that doesnt mean it wasnt an enjoyable experience. I mean fuck, what other dark immersive fantasy rpg's even existed in the ps1 era?
>>334839686
all of that is subjective tho. Some of it downright wrong. Graphics, for example, are not worse than in DaS and DeS. DaS2 also has the best level design that gaming has seen in over a decade thanks to the absolute superb DLC. The DLC in DaS2 simply blows everything out of the water, even DaS3 can't hold a candle to it.
DeS is still the best. DS3 got carried away with trash mob difficulty. I was able to have fun and explore every jail cell in tower of latria and I felt tense hearing the random screaming, singing and bell dings from the few hard mobs. DS3 is just a fucking gauntlet of painfully annoying mobs and every jail cell containing 2-3 mobs always with 1 that is pre-programmed to lunge out and hit you 5 times the instant you pass it.
>>334839691
but force awakens is great
>>334840002
No shit, but he's not the only one with that subjective opinion. A lot of people actually share it.
>>334840010
I do think latria was amazing...is it a shame that I enjoyed dark souls 3 level design from a gameplay perspective but preferred demon souls areas from an immersion perspective?
>>334839673
You are just tired of Souls formula
Im having a blast with it
>>334840002
>all of that is subjective tho.
I see you've fallen straight back to the DS2 apologist's last line of defense immediately.
I can see myself going back and replaying every souls game, except DaS2, that sounds so fucking unappealing and boring, fuck that game
DaS > BB > DaS3 > DeS > DaS2
>>334840090
You're a shiteater. Also the next shitty movie is supposed to have gay characters.
Enjoy your kike fanfiction, fag.
>>334839867
I honestly did not get this. The controls were fine for me. I had no problem. Sure, it was a lot more sluggish compared to DaS, but DaS itself was already fucking sluggish compared to DeS, so it wasn't something new to me. Business as usual I thought.
>>334839673
Just entered NG++ Here, still loving the game.
Only thing is that I wish they had given Irithyll dungeon it's own boss Yhorm is kinda underwhelming so you have nothing to really look I forward to going through that area. Game also has no areas i dread going back to like the demon ruins, lost izalith, and blighttown in DaS1, almost every area in DaS2, and Nightmare of Mensis in BB, I enjoy every area in DaS3 quite a bit, though that first section of Irithyll with all the tall white knight enemies and flame mages starts to lean towards DaS2 bullshit.
Demons souls has the best music though.
Its chilling as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn7dW6xCMXY&list=PL9A3ABDEAD72720E8
>>334840229
basically this...I still occasionally crave a replay of demon/dark/bloodborne, but ds2 just...I cant work up the interest. I simply didnt enjoy it
>>334840161
>Point out the obvious
>L-last line of defense
The fuck?
>>334840270
You don't dread going back to the entire Yhorm route?
It's just annoying through and through
>>334840002
>DaS2 also has the best level design that gaming has seen in over a decade thanks to the absolute superb DLC.
I don't even care if you're trolling. Fuck you, you gigantic retard.
>>334840229
>that sounds so fucking unappealing and boring, fuck that game
So that's your opinion before even playing it. Why am I not surprised that DaS2 shitposters are like this? They've either not played the game or at the very least only played the base game without the DLC which were the best shit ever.
>>334840323
I wouldn't say "best" because there are tracks from every game with some Oomph, but yea the overall sound design was top notch. That track is still something I remember so vividly.
BB>DaS1>DaS3>DeS>DaS2
If you are a nostalgic faggot, you can up Demon's one position.
But deviate from that and you have no taste.
>>334840468
>he didn't play the DLC
All I needed to know.
>>334840501
They have played the game, otherwise they wouldn't be calling it shit.
Suck it up, fag. Your favorite game is shit.
>>334840256
this much juvenile edge can't possibly be healthy
>>334840501
Some extra shit you have to buy separately doesn't suddenly un-shit the rest of the original game m8.
>>334840501
I played it twice faggot, once when it just came out and then SotFS
That's why I said "replay" you retard, learn to read
>>334840404
It's one of the lesser areas of the game but it's still alright, profaned capital feels like a really pointlessly short area and those gargoyles kind of suck but Irithyll dungeon is Tower of Latria lite which is cool.
>>334834484
I haven't played DeS or BB
Kind of early to say with DaS3 but if they don't fix it with patches then it'll be 1=2>3 for me
2 is only on par with 1 as of SOTFS though
>>334840553
are those rabbits...fighting each other? I know nothing of rabbits but this confuses me.
>>334840597
I literally quoted someone who was talking shit about the game while admitting that he hasn't played it. You're being as delusional as the SJWs.
>>334840591
I payed for and played every DLC, and I fucking regret it.
They all felt the same just in different locations. Complete garbage. They were so bad I didn't even bother buying SotFS.
Any news on the new project?
>People are trying to justify Dark Souls 3 being the worst souls in the series by saying Dark Souls 2 was also bad
I don't get it, so? DaS 3 is still shit
>>334840591
the dlc was great man, but also alot of people didnt enjoy the base game- me included. That is enough to dissuade peeps from throwing more money at a game they didnt enjoy.
>>334840759
Not until E3.
>>334834484
>>334834484
3>BB = DeS > DS1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DS2
Dark Souls 2 ain't even a bad game. It is just very noticeably nowhere near as good as the others.
>>334840693
I take it you literally only play these games for the PVP side content because that's the only way this ranking makes sense.
>>334840720
He never said he didn't play it. All he said was that he can't picture himself going back to it, which I agree with. I haven't touched DaS2 since I put it down over a year ago.
>>334840785
the bottom line is that Bloodborne and DeS are the best ones. I can't wait to see what From and SCE cook up next, since From are contractually obliged to make a couple more exclusives for the PS4.
BB > DeS > DaS > DaS 2
Haven't finished 3 yet.
DeS > BB > DaS3 > DaS2 > DaS1
dark souls 1 is shit and the worst game of this shit series 'dark souls'. the playstation exclu are superior in every way
>>334840553
>little build variety
>small and uninteresting areas
>terrible framepacing
>chalice dungeons
>shitty lore
What makes Bloodborne the best Souls game?
>>334840915
>exclusives for the PS4.
its not fucking fair bros
petition when :,)
>>334840915
I hope they finally let them do some futuristic shit.
DaS3 > DeS > BB > DaS2 > DaS1
>>334834484
DaS3 > DaS > DeS >>>>> DaS2
never played BB
>>334840897
I played DaS and DaS2 offline actually.
DaS3 is the first taste I'm getting of PvP, it could be a lot better. Balance is pretty awful.
>>334840002
I'll never know what people see in DaS2's dlc. It just felt like more of the same shit to me. The first one was probably one of the worst sections in all of the souls games with the status effect spamming bollocks because everyone loved black gulch. Some fucking awful bosses too, like poison shitting kalameet, gank squad, whatever that summoning thing was which was a bigger joke than pinwheel and 4 dudes in armor with sword bosses out of a total 9.
>>334840982
>little build variety
>small and uninteresting areas
>terrible framepacing
>chalice dungeons
>shitty lore
>implying that isn't the case in dark sous 1 x D
>>334834484
DEACONS OF THE DEEP IS FUCKING BULLSHIT. FUCK FROM.
>>334840914
why do people always get so angry in these threads? Cant we ever have civil discussions?
>>334837742
Good taste
>>334841072
It's a meme at this point. The DLC actually isn't any better than the base game.
This coming from someone who bought all three separately on release day.
Anyone got a spare Vordt's Great Hammer you could give me?
>npc's
DaS3>AotA>DeS>DaS>BB>DaS2>OH
>pvp
DaS2>DaS3>DaS>DeS>BB
>Bosses
OH>AotA>DaS3>DaS2DLC>BB>DeS>DaS2
>Area Design
DaS3>DeS>OH>DaS2DLC>DaS>BB>>DaS2
>Weapons/Amour/Spells etc.
DaS2>DaS3>OH(Specifically)>DaS>DeS>BB
>Minibosses/Encounter design
DaS3>DaS>DeS>BB>DaS2
World Design:
DaS>>>>>DaS3>=BB>>>>DeS>>>>DaS2
>OST
DaS3>BB>DaS>DaS2>DeS
This is pretty subjective to be honest, I know people like Bloodborne for it's stylistic choices and production, but I really hated the over-abundance of horror centric tracks, I felt DaS3 perfected multiphase tracks and gave every boss a unique personality, I won't deny that the DLC tracks were very good in BB though. I still find it hard to appreciate orphan of kos's second phase over the massively better first though.
Nitpicks like performance issues, the healing system, having to wait through multiple loading screens to travel/reset in bb made me dislike it a lot more, the chalice dungeons were really awful as well
Overall:
>>334840785
3 isn't shit. 2 is.
>>334841078
the game gives you three npc summons if its too hard for you. Best advice? Equip a long range wep like a halberd or glave or claymore. two hand it. run in three strike the red priests until the bishop spawns. Easy fight.
DaS3 >= BB > DaS = DeS >DaS2
>>334841076
>implying that is the case in DaS1
Okay, so we all know that DS2 is the stinker of the series.
The real question is: Does Dark Souls 3 surpass Dark Souls?
>>334841313
No.
They should really put this shit to bed. It didn't need any sequels.
>>334841219
This is so retarded and I'm sick of it. Yes, there was a lot of weapon variety in DaS2 which made PVP more interesting, but most of the weapons had the same movesets, and a lot of others were just downright useless. It's a stupid argument that only desperate DaS2 shitters use to defend their shitty game.
Quality will always be better than quantity.
>>334841028
If they will, it'll probably be Armored Core. I mean we don't even know if the exclusives they make will be Souls-likes or not, although a sequel to Bloodborne wouldn't be surprising since it sold so well.
Anyway, I'll be chilling here with my amazing exclusives and discussing Bloodborne and Existential Horror with my fellow intellectuals.
>>334841434
>Quality will always be better than quantity
what did he mean by this?
>>334841313
Vanila DaS3 > Vanila DaS
Now we have to wait and see if the DLC will be as goat as AotA
>>334841313
Overall it's probably better, it's just more updated, all the little things are improved upon
But DaS has a better world design, better atmosphere, and has the nostalgia factor, so for me I think DaS3 is better, but DaS is still my favorite
>>334841313
honestly? I think its still too early to tell. Patches, dlcs, etc. I mean. It doesnt have giant dads and heavy weps seem more viable then they did in 1 (at least to me, maybe Ill get some flak for this)
>>334841434
This. DaS2 had the most content, but so much of it was mediocre. It's only really terrible when compared to the other games though.
>>334841313
Honestly it's better in almost every way, except maybe the freedom of progression in DaS compared to 3, but I think 3 still has better level and world design. Also holy shit is the soundtrack to DS3 good, like the opening menu theme alone gets me rock hard
>>334840785
Nobody is saying that, hell a lot of us consider DaS3 better than DaS1, the fucked in the head DaS2 contrarians have just shown up claiming their game with level design and enemy placement on par with a 13 year olds first unity project is the best in the series. The DLC had good level design sure, but it needed about 2/3rds of the enemies removed from the areas or the enemies given half as much damage and health, when DaS or BB or DaS3 mob you, it's with Hallows that die in one hit, when DaS2 mobs you, it does so constantly and with enemies the equivolant of black knights all the while making sure at least one mage with infinite range is sniping you from a ledge you can't get to, god that fire DLC was so shit I can't even. Literally the only passable area in the whole game was the snow DLC minus thr bullshit cat boss, the first DLC had good level design and Sinh was one of the only good bosses in the entire game, but the enemy spam at the start of that DLC completely ruined the otherwise cool moving platform stuff since you were basically forced to sprint past everything and couldn't appreciate any of it.
>>334841168
the only meme here is the unreasonable disdain DaS2 gets while being an improvement of the series in every way possible.
>>334841078
it isn't even hard
>>334841534
The only thing good in DaS1 DLC was the bosses
The areas were very bland
BB > DS3 > DS2 > DS1 > DES
I know it's cool to hate Dark Souls 2 but I actually enjoyed it more than Dark Souls. PVP was fun.
Can you parry soul of cinder? Also is he the last boss
>>334841734
I agree with the areas, but they had literally 3 bosses that are the best in DaS and some of the best in the series.
The new npc were also pretty amazing, as weel for the new items and spells.
>>334834484
Bloodborne+old hunters>Dark Souls 3>Bloodborne=Dark Souls: prepare to die edition> Dark Souls>Dark Souls 2: SotFS>Demon's Souls>>>Dark Souls 2
If you don't agree with this, you're a nostalgiafag, a fanboy, or just have shit taste.
>>334841313
It's better in every way, but suffers a bit from twilight princess syndrome where sometimes it feels like the pandering is taken slightly to far, I think Anor Londo was a great inclusion and felt a lot like MGS4 shadow Moses, and Soul of Cinder is the best final boss FROM has ever made, but stuff like Andre and Seigward are kind of silly even if I personally appreciate them
>>334842126
Seigwerd had a great quest, so I can forgive From.
But Andre was awful... there's no reason for him to be there, no quest with him, and barely any dialog.
>>334841829
You MIGHT be able to parry him in his PVP compilation phase, but he is definitely not parryable once Gwyn phase starts, likely done very deliberately since they made him the fight they always wanted Gwyn to be in DaS1 and removed the cheese strat to ensure this.
>>334841992
I still prefer the fight with Sif over Artorias
The best boss in the DLC is Kalameet
>>334842338
Andre was already dead. Its an illusion.
I heard that there are 3 endings this time around. What's the 3rd secret ending?
DS3>DS2>DS1
>>334837518
(You)
>>334842550
There are four, link the fire, two similar betrayal endings, and the secret ending that involves the hollowing mechanic and also shoving your rod in Anri and making them your spouse.
>>334837518
>DaS3 with DLC > DaS SOFS = DaS1
What the actual fuck? The DLC isn't even out so how can you make a statement like that? I mean we can assume that it's good since it always has been, but I'll still wait for it to be playable before making such a bold statement.
>>334841313
Not at all. You could argue that the level design is better, but that's it.
>>334834484
This is amazing. DaS3 has all the problems of DaS2, amplified by 10, with almost none of the redeeming qualities.
But Miyazaki's zealous fanboys are going to pretend it's perfect simply because his name is on it.
>>334840553
This guy's got it. Though the start of DaS1 is so fucking good that I'd put DaS1 first half over BB, and the second in-between DaS3 and DeS.
Honestly give it a month or so and I bet people will start moving DaS3 down.
Seriously replaying the game is such a fucking chore because the world is so railroaded. Most of the areas are boring both aesthetically and level design wise. They're either a straight line with a couple of nooks and crannies or just a fucking circle with crap strewn about.
Enemies are just fucking thrown everywhere with barely any regards to placement. One of the biggest offenders being the enemies which can decrease your max health in Irithryll Dungeon, in which the penultimate way they're used is just "Lol let's just throw 8 in a room". Just amazing.
I miss the DeS/DaS way of a few enemies placed in difficult positions. Which these enemies are ripe for doing, yet they don't.
Weapon balance is straight up fucked, but we all should know this by now. All the people who went "Lol there's no variety in BB", are now faced with a game which has variety but gives the middle finger to anyone who tries to change it up. With the preferred/best way to play DaS3 at this point in time being done way better in BB.
Lore's pretty shit, but then again it's the third game in the series. There's nothing much new to discover. I feel FROM should've tried to put a bit more of a conventional way of story telling in the game since this is supposedly the last DaS game, because I found myself not giving a shit about what I was doing throughout the game, what a good way to end it.
If I had a piece of advice to give FROM. It's don't do sequels, just do 1 game and then move on to the next setting.
Sorry for the blog, but it pisses me off to see people constantly shit on rehashes, yet praise DaS3 when there's a clear drop in fucking quality just because they like the series. The Hypocrisy is too fucking real.
>>334837742
>DS2/BB>DS1
>>334843983
If you compare it to vanila DaS, DaS3 is better:
>Better level design (in each area)
>Better bosses
>Just as good NPCs
>Better weapon
>Weapon Special
>Covenant that are great, and work.
The only thing you could say DaS is better is in the world design and replayability.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QPJUQg_U5HY
best song
>>334844206
>This is amazing. DaS3 has all the problems of DaS2
can you explain it, or you're just here to shitpost?
>>334845110
>Better weapon
the game is literally 50% katanas, what?
>>334834484
Dark Souls is garbage the second you leave anal rodeo DS3 and BB are both better.
I think we can all agree that
Quality > STR > INT > DEX >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FAI
>>334844206
So you've either never played DaS3 or have some contrarion autistic love for DaS2? DaS3 feels NOTHING like DaS2 and has none of the problems, movement feels proper again, level design is good, bosses are unique and memorable, world is interconnected and the game has atmosphere again, and isn't just 300 enemies in a rectangular room full of repeating textures with no lighting (which is all DaS2 PvE was, also what are these redeeming qualities of DaS2 you seem to believe exist?), literally went into it expecting another DaS2 because same team, but as soon as I moved around a bit and did a few rolls I instantly started to get hype again because it felt right, and after going through a few areas my faith in the series was restored again. If it wasn't legitimately good and I was just lying to myself, I wouldn't consider it better than DaS1 and DeS and would still be dicksucking those games dry. I dont understand how anyone can claim DaS3 has all the problems of DaS2 when they literally have nothing in common save a few NPC invaders from the DaS2 lore.
Das =BB > das3=des >>>>>>>das2
>>334844206
>soul memory
Kill yourself
>>334845470
DAS2 BABIES GETTING BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
>Bloodborne > Demon's Souls > Dark Souls III's Setpieces > DaSI Post-Prepare to Die Patch > Scholar of the First Sin > Dark Souls III > Dark Souls II > Dark Souls
Souls DLC is predominantly garbage. Dark Souls (I) was broken for an entire year, as was Dark Souls II, as is Dark Souls III. Namco is a cancer. Early access for $60 and then charging $15 to unlock the actual game is unforgivable.
tl;dr itt: series with no self-respect
>>334845390
This 100%, and I considered DaS1 my favorite game until about four days ago after finishing DaS3.
DaS1 has a great world, great atmosphere, and overall great design, but that design falls off completely after Ornstein and Smough, with the only area retaining even a semblance of the first half of the game being Duke's Archives. I'm not sure if it was time or money that fucked up the second half, but it is damn fucked up, held together only by the atmosphere and amazing first half at that point. Meanwhile BB stays consistent the whole way through, and DaS3 starts off as good as DaS1, but gets better at the point in the game when DaS1 starts to get worse.
>Pcucks bitched about lack of weapons in BB
>almost every single weapon is viable, unique, and has two forms
>Dark Souls 3 has a million copy paste move sets like all the other games and useless weapon arts
LOL
>>334834484
BB > DS3 > DS > DS2 / DeS
BB>DS3>DS>DS2>DeS
>>334835589
correct opinion Anon-kun
Dark Souls 2 is shit in every regard. No amount of patches, dlc or directx upgrades can fix it because it's garbage at the very core. Everything from the movement, the turnrate, the dull mocap animations, the washed out areas, the diamond dozen bosses, the overabundance of reskinned weapons with adjusted numbers, the halfassed connection to DaS1, the pointless story, the forgettable npcs, the broken hitboxes and adp, the retarded level design, and SM. (which now you have to wear a ring to stop)
You can count the number of good memorable bosses on 1 hand and most if not all of them are from DLC. Out of all the Soulsborne games it's the only way I see myself never replaying ever again.
DaS 3 = BB > DaS = DeS >>>>>>>>>>>> dogshit >>>>>>>>>> DaS 2
>>334834484
Nah.
DaS3 > DaS1 >DeS > BB > DaS2
Dark 3 is the best one. Only nostalgiafags think that Dark 1 is better.
DaS>DeS>BB=DaS3>DaS2
The first Dark Souls may be an unfinished game with a clear drop in quality in the end, however its integration of NPC questlines into the characters your characters natural progression through the game is at its best in Dark Souls 1. It also fixed a lot of the obtuse user interface problems and abuseable shit from Demon's such as replacing Grass with Estus, item burden being thrown out along with bullshit world tendency and covenants were pretty great, OST is the best, and game like Demon's is thematically consistent. Dark Souls 3 is the best in terms of "perfecting" the souls system, magic Estus is a fucking amazing idea and it took 4 games to get back to Demon's attitude to human and "dead" form, finally giving us a reason to be human again with ember forms health buff.
>>334845849
Weapon arts are fine if you actually use them, the boss weapons end up being the only place where any of BB's excellent weapon variety carries over. As someone who plays the Dark Souls series on PC due to better performance, I will say that one thing it has going for it is that most games on PC are pretty hollow garbage with numbers-based gameplay, so DaS's PC ports really shine, but that MMO mentality of a lot of PC gamers wanting more for the sake of more and not caring about the actual depth of the content really is present and seems to be the reason a lot of them think DaS2 is anything but a steaming pile of hot dogshit (SotFS literally only fixed No Man's Wharf and Dragon Shrine, everything else was still terrible including the DLC stop lying to yourselves please you gain nothing from it)
>>334834484
I really don't get why DaS is everyone's favorite. It was rushed as evident by the end game areas and every place other than undead burg,the depths, and sens fortress are massive flat sprints to the boss fights. Demons souls never had such huge boring levels so that was my biggest gripe. Also none of the covenants worked and the "story" was stupid. I wish they continued with demons souls because at least that made more sense than all this "light the bonfire" bullshit
DeS>DaS>>>BB=DaS3>DaS2
>>334845982
The only 2 good vanilla bosses are Dark Lurker(But he's fucked because of the area he's in) and Smelter Demon but the blue one fucks his memory.
>>334834484
>nostalgiafags still going on with DaS being the best
Literally only because it was the first souls game on PC, and the first one that got popular.
>>334834484
Nah nigga
BB>DaS3>DeS>DaS1>DaS2
>>334846263
I wish they'd just keep making extremely similar, but varied enough entries. Souls shouldn't really be a series, and the continuous gratification critics and playerbase alike give to Dark Souls II and it's sequel is reason enough for Namco to milk the living shit out of it, with or without FromSoft.
We should be at our fifth original entry, instead we got two unnecessary and worthless sequels, the second of which plays like a funeral video.
I swear to god I'm near the end of DaSIII and I feel like I just revisited the highlights of DeS, DaS, DaSII, and BB. Nostalgia pandering at it's fucking worse, and for a series that isn't even a decade old.
FromSoft are scumbags, just like CDPR.
>He doesn't main Shrek
There is LITERALLY nothing wrong with DaSII. Y'all are a bunch of fucking babies.
>>334846929
>not defending his swamp with Shrek
c'moooooon
>>334834484
DaS>BB>DeS>DaS3>DaS2
DaS > DeS = BB > SotFS > DaS3 > DaS2
>>334847145
I SAID YEP
>>334846883
DaS3 should have been DaS2 and been the only other "Dark Souls" game, it really just seems to exist because DaS2 fucked up DaS1's lore and DaS3 is trying to rectify it, so it ends up going back to DaS1's lore and providing more definite closure to all of the events of the story, its close enough tied to that story to be considered a proper sequel, while DaS2 should have been another _____ souls game, as the world and narrative had very very little to do with DaS and in many ways it felt more different from DaS than DaS did from DeS.
I really hope they find some way to make DaS3 the very last "Dark Souls" game, the way its ended is the perfect way to end the series, and any other games set in the same universe after that will just ruin that again like DaS2 did for DaS1.
DS2>DeS>DS1>DS3
I feel like 3's biggest problem is the lack of viable weapons and weapon arts. Like my chaos scythe does half the damage of a dark sword even with the fire damage ring and 30/30 int/faith. And weapon arts range are either pointless or stupidly broken.
I expect and hope patches and dlc will fix this.
>>334846883
Literally this.
From the moment they announced DaS2 the only thing I wanted was for it NOT to be connect with DaS. I wanted for this series to become like FF, sequels share only the name and mechanics, but everything is different...
Thankfully it seems that's were based Miyazaki is taking the series with BB.
>>334847102
And you are literally blind.
>>334834484
DaS2 should be lower
>>334834484
I agree, but I haven't played Bloodborne, but since I've heard it's good from people I trust then, I might switch it up with Demon Souls in your list, OP.
>>334847861
Ds3 = BB
>>334834484
DeS > DaS > DaS3 = BB > DaS2
is the only correct answer
>>334847918
How come the hornet ring isn't spawning for me? I've killed abyss watchers a long time ago?
Thoroughly enjoyed DS3 but all the weapons in the same class felt so very samey it made finding a new weapon a somewhat boring affair.
Other than I loved it, eagerly waiting for DLCstill enjoyed bloodborne more
>>334845982
>diamond dozen
WutBut i agree with the rest of your post
BB = DS3 = DeS > DS > DS2
The enemies' aggression and difficulty in DS3 makes it one of the better games (at least for me). Always found DS too slow and clunky regarding enemies. DS2 is no doubt the worst for reasons I won't get into, it has the best PvP but I am not much of a PvP player.
>>334848707
pretty much the right order.
BB without the DLC is definitely lower on the list than Dark Souls 3, and we still have 2 to 3 DLCs coming.
>>334848408
Just googled the meaning.
>>334837779
Pfff, King's field didn't even sell well, there is literally 0% chance you played it before the souls games you wannabe
>>334849005
Fuck wring img, basically, diamond dozen means the same thing as dime a dozen.
>>334839686
I personally only dislike the progression, encounter design and combat in DaS2. Some parts of the combat was better than the previous games, but otherwise it was slow as fuck.
