>Alliancebabbies think VC was harder than Wailing Caverns
kek
KEK
What's VC?
>>334813369
>>334813369
if blood elves were not a playable race, the horde would be vastly outnumbered on every single server.
you literally cannot deny this.
Well, it doesn't have the ledge boss so I guess that's true.
>>334813745
And the average intelligence of the horde would go up.
People who play as "nice looking" races are literally children.
Just think about it for 2 seconds and you'd understand the people who get triggered by 'the bad guys' or 'ugly characters' aren't the kind of people you want to be raiding with.
>>334813616
He meant DM
>WC
>that one guy in your group who always failed the jump
>>334813990
Sorry m8 I prefer civilized architecture in lieu of stick and mud huts
>>334813745
What about all the edgy undead kids?
>>334813616
Van Cleef
>>334813616
I understand it's some regional (American?) thing. Van Cleef
I certainly didn't ever see Deadmines referred to as VC, though. It was DM, while Dire Maul was distinguished by the sub-instance (DM West/East/North).
>>334813369
both were about equal i'd say. DM was more of a linear dungeon and thus not as confusing but when it comes to difficulty both were equal i'd say
t. alliance
>>334813639
>>334813745
It still burns my ass that Horde has Blood Elves. Horde should be full of the ugly non-human rejects. They should have gotten Broken Draenei back in TBC and Alliance gotten Blood Elves
>>334814171
this, OPs being a hipster.
>>334813369
Both of them were harder than a lot of new level dungeons that are only about bombing everything to shit and mashing all buttons that glow
>>334813369
>VC
kek
Bad dungeons:
Wailing Caverns
That one in Ashenvale
Gnomeregan
Razorfen Downs
The troll templeHellfire Ramparts
![Garithos_portrait[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/erwxejP.jpg "Garithos_portrait[1].jpg")
>>334814203
>Blood Elves joining the Alliance
>after what they went through with this guy
>>334814369
>Razorfen Downs
SHUT YOUR FUCKING MOUTH
>>334814453
It's cool the first time.
>>334814369
>Bad Dungeons
Literally everything in Cata
It could be harder, not sure, but DM was by far the superior instance
Then again, Horde gets way easier access to all of SM later
>>334814369
>troll temple
you better mean sunken temple and not zul'farrak, faggot
>>334813369
Anyone who calls it VC played after vanilla. You suck OP
>>334814650
Yeah the one in the swamp.
>>334813369
>not pulling back so runners aint a problem
>not knowing the time when partols spawn
>not knowing the safe spot if someone pulls the whole ship
>not having the healer jump up on the canon and cant be touched
quest tier pleds
>>334813990
this, this is exactly why horde downed KT before ally, ally are all 12 year olds who had to go to bed hence didn't progress in raids
>>334814659
After vanilla?
DM is Dire Maul.
>>334814543
Yeah for real. Not quite sure what it is about them.
>>334814790
DM East/West/North is Dire Maul
No-one says "DM" for Dire Maul because no-one did the whole thing
>>334814446
They still want the dick. It is a known fact that they love Humans. How can male elves even compete?
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Vereesa
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Alleria
>>334814369
>Hellfire Ramparts
Nah that one was sick and was a great way to introduce TBC
>>334814992
>male elves
they're voiced by Cam Clarke so you know they don't need women
>>334814790
Nigga please Deadmines always was DM. I've never seen anyone refer to it as VC.
>>334814453
Razorfen Downs was great, a cool undead dungeon that was not in the Eastern Kingdoms
>>334815029
AKOR SHAKAI
FEAST MY PET
EAT YOUR FILL
I don't think I've ever heard ANYONE say either Deadmines or Wailing Caverns was hard.
Deadmines had a better ending though. You kill the boss, the side-boss and then you simply walk out of the dungeon with your group through the little cave.
>>334814790
Yes but literally no one touched Dire Maul post vanilla
>>334814171
Only horde called it VC because they used that teleporter to skip 90% of the instance.
>>334813745
>Play Tauren Warrior for years
>come to /v/ eventually
>everyone hates Tauren
Really off topic but why do you guys hate cows so much?
>>334815029
I guess he didn't like it because clearing the groups around the first boss was too hard without pulling him. It's the only point in the whole dungeon where you can wipe
>>334815223
>that teleporter
what
>>334815278
Furshit
>>334815278
Why even ask? Furries.
>>334815309
He might be confusing DM with Gnomergan, but i do have faint memories of something that let you ignore the ogre boss as Horde or some shit
Regardless, i played Horde through vanilla and nobody on my server called it VC
>>334814202
>>334815298
Must be, it was very well polished and I remember being really impressed by the boss machanics.
I mean come on 90% of vanilla dungeon bosses where just big health mobs who hit hard.
>>334815278
You are a walking steak.
>>334815278
>still no totem weapon
Literally what the fuck
>>334815278
Gnomes were always the worst. I guarantee you that most underage played them.
>>334815412
The Gnomeregan teleporter doesn't allow you to teleport anywhere into the dungeon either though, it's in front of the instance portal
>>334814369
>That one in Ashenvale
Black Fathom Deeps
Why would you abbreviate an instance with the name of a character in it? That's like calling Gnomergan 'TP' (Thermaplugg)
>>334815467
they were basically the same as the really big mobs in groups of creeps in WC3
>>334813745
>WOTLK babby doesnt know that Undead was FOTM on horde-side in Vanilla
>>334814446
He died. Apparently Stormwind humans are different or something.
Anyway, Blood elves should have been their own neutral faction.
>>334814453
So much good loot from that place. So much.
>>334815802
This
Then there were the 1000+ undead zombie raids on Hogger/Stormwind where everyone would make a fresh Undead, give it a zombie like name and walk all the way to Stormwind in a massive group
Some no-fun allowed Paladinfag tried to stop us but there were a few naked 60 Rogues in our group as well, hue.
>>334813369
It's deadmines and WC nigga
>>334815080
Everyone called it VC in vanilla.
>>334813369
Is BRD still the largest dungeon that they've ever made?
Why haven't they made anything similar to it in the last expansions?
>>334814203
Actually BElves should've been a hostile faction all the way through TBC.
They actually should've made horde Ogres and alliance broken Draenei to balance it out.
But instead we got light kanjis, fabulous horde elves and space draenei
>>334815971
>Why haven't they made anything similar to it in the last expansions?
Marketers and lawyers don't know how.
>>334815609
thanks senpai
>>334816012
>Implying you don't want to get dominated by a horde of belves or space goats
faggot pls go
>Gnomeregan
>Black Fathom Deeps
>Sunken Temple
Trio of misery to me
Also I completely forgot Zul'Farrak even existed
>>334815971
Because the current autistic playerbase can't navigate an open-ended dungeon.
BRD was a masterpiece, I still remember farming the Fire Resist enchant mats stealthing through it with my rogue. I knew that shit insideout back in the day.
>>334815971
>Why haven't they made anything similar to it in the last expansions?
That would take some actual effort.
>>334815896
I'll never forget getting that sweet 2h axe on my warrior after spending 3 hours in that place. Fuck I want to play vanilla again
>>334816117
BFD was a cool instance. Sunken Temple was fun when you figured out how it worked, and then everyone sucked your dick when you led them through it after.
But I still don't understand Gnomer to this day.
Surely some of you faggots are still playing WoW somewhere, be it private or retail
Post what you're up to
Right now I'm helping a retailrefugee adapt to WOTLK on Warmane. He keeps asking me questions like "Why didn't you just come flying here." and "Why haven't I learned [insert skill here] yet." it's cute.
>>334816193
>mfw I'm always the one that remembered the correct statue order in ST
>mfw shitters didn't listen
>>334816193
Sunken Temple had some fun ideas but it was way, way too big, similar to Gnomeregan. Just clearing out the trolls on the balconies took ages.
>>334814446
Garithos has little to do with faction allegiance. Blood Elves are still neutral when you roll one and eventually join because if the night elves fucking around and the forsaken helping them out
>late bc/early wrath
>horde is unified with even forsaken joining the Korkron
>wrath gate happens
>cata makes forsaken hypocrits so alliance can keep their holier than though mentality
>mists butchered what they claimed World of Warcraft orcs to be
>rest of the races as ignored as ever
tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down
>>334813369
Wailing Caverns suffered from the out of control level fluctuation issues that vanilla had early on. You'd been perfectly fine halfway through than you'd get to a boss who was five levels above you causing you to miss or do no damage because of the trashy hitting mechanics.
>>334816117
>>334816193
I remember going into ST before they took out the hidden boss and people not knowing he was even down there. This wasn't even during Vanilla.
I loved the feeling I got when people were like "What the fuck, I didn't even know there was a puzzle in here".
>>334816432
I've never had that problem a single time in Vanilla. I mean we wiped because of shitters, sure, but nearly all instances were in the +/- 5 level range, and unless you were a healer you pretty much had to fall in the middle of that level range to be invited.
>>334814202
>get soo butthurt that forget the meaning of edgy
>>334816662
there's definitely some instances where the starting enemies could be grey-green and the final enemies could be red (notably Maraudon, Uldaman, and BRD). Vanilla had this problem in some places.
>>334816779
Yeah but that's because those instances are fuckhuge and were commonly split into sections depending on level. I don't think anyone jumps right into a full clear of BRD as soon as they hit the starting level range.
>>334816662
well except Shadowfang Keep, which goes from lvl 16 mobs at entrance to a,what, lvl 25 boss?
>>334814729
>finding pro strats and shit for lvl 15 instance you run once and never come back to
>>334813369
Cham thunder fury is cheatted
>>334814790
DM always was Deadmines, Dire maul was DiM
PlayableHeroFaction
>>334815968
no one called it VC until after cata
>>334816297
Playing tbc on veangance until playtbc might be coming back, or not. Otherwise also leveling a bit on kronos vanilla server, this seems to be the best server atm, but I'm a bit tired of vanilla
>>334817043
It was closer to 22-30, but still no one let you into a group if you weren't at least 25, or they had a higher level to carry them through.
I mean if you and a bunch of people went into any instance as soon as you could enter it then you'd get fucked up quick. Which in its own way was a lot of fun. But I wouldn't call this a problem with the instances considering most people only got into groups when they were in the middle to upper level range.
>>334815278
Cause they are fucking retards
I don't play Tauren because too big character models and it kinda annoys me, but lore wise those guys are bad ass as fuck, like seriously. Can't hate them
I never liked WC. Even after running it 10+ times, I still managed to get lost.
>Horde never, EVER won Alterac Valley without serious faction imbalance on the server
God bless that bridge.
>Implying I wasn't doing Wailing Caverns on alliance.
HUH
horde did have some major advantages in early game instances
I mean, other than deadmines and stockades they had almost no issue reaching any dungeon while alliance had to jump through major hoops getting through shit like say SFK or SM
>>334817236
Bullshit.
>>334813369
> VC
Sup, MoPfag.
Was it harder? No. Was it better? Absolutely.
>>334817784
>Dungeons that are a straight line are better.
No one called it VC in early vanilla because Dire Maul wasn't in the game.
Almost no one called it VC in rest of vanilla because if you wanted to do Dire Maul, you'd specify the wing, and because people knew how to shift click. Gee, I wonder whether that level 20 guy wants to do Dire Maul?
But there had to be that one autist in chat complaining about it, which must've been OP.
>>334815521
They had arguably the second-best racial out of Alliance races (Stoneform being the best) so a lot of competent players picked Gnome for that.
Most underage kiddos were Night Elves.
>>334817784
true dat, other than mutanus WC had extremely shitty boss battles as well as a vastly worse surrounding story and even the thrash was way more boring
I mean Mr Smite had more personality than all of WC combined
>>334817871
> Dungeons with shit bosses are better because they have winding paths
>>334817871
>endless halls filled with boring animals makes for a good dungeon
>People forgetting the little jump in WC
>>334814369
>not liking gnomeregan
lol i ran this dungeon 100 times
>>334817467
Horde made up for it by winning it 95% throughout BC/LK.
Bless the IW choke.
>>334818165
Gnomeregan with a good group was fantastic
Gnomeregan with a bunch of retards who can't even kill a single alarm-o-bot was a god damn nightmare
>>334816925
BRD no, but Uldaman, Maraudon? They're incredibly deceptive. Uldaman is especially horrible.
>>334813369
I've never seen anyone even bother discussing this ever.
There wasn't any point then, and there isn't any point now.
>>334813369
I saw some people calling it DM/VC, a lot more often than just VC anyway.
>>334818165
>don't kill the alarm bot
>100 mobs come out of fucking nowhere 2 minutes later
I loved Gnomer.
Dead mines wasn't even hard in vanilla so long as u brought 18+ and this is coming from alliance main. Verdan was enough to make WC pretty hard.
>>334817605
What was the horde version of this?
Probably those fucking Quilboar with the crossbows and coyote pets that patrol all the camps
>>334813369
The only hard part of Wailing Caverns was making the jump before the last boss. That's it.
>>334817467
>horde could win if they set up defense at iceblood
the "fuck fun, maximize honor" faggots ruined AV
Speaking of jumps;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luh4zWCeMRU
I loved BFD. Getting Strike of the Hydra on my warrior lasted until Whirlwind Axe. I didn't know Corpsemaker existed at the time.
The jumping puzzle was a great retard filter, still is to this day.
>>334813369
>managing not falling off cliffs and making sure the hunter turns off his pet when you make the jump
>harder than a dungeon that actually requires you to avoid over pulling and has a boss that spawns adds
Whatever you say OP.
>>334818483
the elite worgen from silverpine come to mind in terms of deadliness
but really, nothing truly compares to the defias clusterfuck, only other quest that comes even close to being as annoying as having to deal with those fuckers was the introductionary escort quest going from darkshore to ashenvale because having 2 mobs with 200 damage fireballs get a scripted aggro on a 300 health npc is fair guys
>tfw you hit 28 and run sm lib arm and cath until you're 40, never once touching gy
>tfw that was a decade ago
>>334818586
the music makes this perfect, do you have the mythic raiding guild one?
>>334818586
>people even jumping when you can just run up the ramp and even skip a few mobs
lol
>>334818165
>gnomer
Okay now important thing is to stay away from the ledge at all times
hey guys why am I lagging?
>>334818586
Why the terrible music and editing?
Most people called it VC on my server, but it was only a slight majority.
>>334818784
I remember logging off during the day in pyrewood village, next to vendor I sold my greys at.
Log in at night and fuck did I get a surprise.
>>334818893
That's a Cata/Wod addition probably, I haven't been there in years. Jumping used to be the only way.
The video is obviously set back then, the warrior was in rank 14 stuff.
>>334818825
I haven't seen it, care to elaborate on what it's about?
>>334819098
How new are you, faggot?
>>334818784
The stolen silver quest where there were shitloads of raptors all bunched in a tiny area in Barrens comes to mind as well.
>>334819134
there wasn't that much confusion
the lv 16 guy asking for a DM group in Westfall was most likely not going on a dire maul stint
>>334819136
i saw it a while back but I can't find it.
Basically one of the big guilds was struggling on mythic, so the people who did the jump were paragon etc, and the failing guild was agssd
It's funnier if you see it
>>334819185
Been here long enough to know that terrible editing and linkin park music stopped being funny 10 years ago.
Seriously too many underage around here.
>>334818483
Huaaaaah
>Meanwhile already be kiting around 3 zombies and 4 Skeletons
>>334819306
I've seen it, it definitely rings a bell.
Was it parodying that failure of a guild, who couldn't beat Mythic Highmaul? Looking for it right now.
>Playing WoW
>Find out the girl I like plays WoW
>It's really weird because she's attractive and not a fat slob
>She tell me she rolled a Nightelf
>My heartbreaks
>tfw even after all these years I still love her
I don't remember fleeing mobs who aggro the entire dungeon when I did WC.
>>334819261
And they all fucking chain-stunned you.
>God Tier
Strat UD
UBRS
>High Tier
BRD emp run
DM tribute run
Strat live
>Mid Tier
DM north
DM west
DM east
>Shit Tier
BRD full run
Scholo
LBRS
>>334819306
>>334818825
Took fucking ages but I finally found it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMu_Zj3pKgQ
>tfw can't get my nostalgia fix on nostalrius anymore
Back to listening to the music on youtube I guess.
>>334819551
>Been here long enough to completely miss the point
>Calls someone else underage
>>334821360
thank you based anon, been looking for it forever
>>334813369
>VC
We called it Deadmines you shit lord and it was easier than Wailing Cavern and better designed.
>>334815710
Reason I loved the game in the beginning
ar ret pallys even viable nowadays? i stopped playing in panda expans
>>334816193
Knowing how to do a full clear of all the vanilla instances is satisfying, especially how to skip trash packs or sections
>>334820883
>BRD full run
>>334813369
Getting to wailing caverns when I had no idea what I was doing was a pain in the ass.
I think I got lost for a good hour before I realized I had to run through the portal.
I miss those days ;'(
>>334813745
>population of WoW consists on metalhead edgy losers
>undeads on horde
>still thinks horde would be outnumbered
>>334815971
>they removed 5 of the 9 fire elementals guarding the bridge because bads kept complaining.
>they took the stats off my master builders shirt
Still the best dungeon despite all that.
>>334822030
>tfw you know that feel
>>334822182
>Can you guys help me with Jail Break once we're done?
>>334817060
>you run once and never come back to
>not leveling by riunning dungeons over and over
get geared senpai
>implying ether of them were hard
>>334814369
Heroic Zul'gurub- the dungeon isn't bad at all, it is all the idiots that don't know Jin'do the Godbreaker's fight at all
>>334822550
>clear the patrol route
>fail anyway
>>334822550
>Join jailbreak group
>party takes turns
>have mine be last out of courtesy
>finally my turn after some hours
>"Oh man, I gotta leave sorry guys"
>"Oh, me too"
>party disbands
Every fucking time, onyxia attunement was such a bitch to deal with.
>>334820883
>scholo
>shit
Spotted the pleb.
>>334814369
>no Blackrock Depths
>>334822550
>i need Jail Break and then we can do the rest of the dungeon
i fell for it the first two times out of the countless times
>>334823539
everyone could do it at once though as long as everyone delivered the first quest but didn't take the second
