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Baldur's Gate / Neverwinter Nights / IWD / PS:T / ToEE and other D&D vidya thread.

Do you know any overlooked hidden gem mods/modules that you enjoyed but never seen recommended?
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best girl.
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>>334805584
HEYA, IT'S ME IMOEN
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Who's the funniest individual boss and why is it Yxunomei?
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Poor Lady Aribeth.
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>>334806528
As bad as the OC was, it was worth playing it at least for her story.
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did anyone play the dark side of the sword coast or whatever it was called?
unofficial add-on or something along those lines
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>>334806472
mulahey ofcourse
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>>334804471
>Baldur's Gate / Neverwinter Nights / IWD / PS:T / ToEE and other D&D vidya thread.

How about you play some bad ones, too?
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>>334808590
I honestly think it's just a case of most D&D CRPGs in the last 15 years or so have actually been good. You got Sword Coast Legends which was really disappointing NWN-lite, but that's it. Daggerdale was shit, but that's not really a CRPG.
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My hotel's as clean as an elven arse.
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>>334808453
I played it on my last megamod playthrough, at it ranges from okay to 'what the fuck were they thinking'
There is a cool quest with a banshee, a really mediocre dragon fight (wouldn't a dragon in BG1 be hard? Nah, if you let me join you I'll give you 20 arrows of dragon slaying) and the goddamned 'nothing personnel kid' main quest, where the author self insert and his spirit guide join you to kill megasatan. I'll just post that character bio:
You know very little about CúChoinneach and his shadow wolf. You know not where he comes from or where he is going to. He says very little and asks far less. For an elf you notice that he harbors a dark side. He has lost all the normal lust for life that most elves have and seems focused on one thing. The destruction of Lord Daerthmac!
(he has two magical scimitars btw)

I couldn't get the 'north side of the sword coast' addon working at all. That unexplored gray map square haunted me throughout the whole game
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Recently tried starting a fresh game in BGEE on the new difficulty setting "Legacy of Bhaal"; Shank had over 30 hit points, and the rats in Reevor's storehouse seemed to have around 20, and we're actually capable of getting hits on me nearly every turn, and I was knocked unconscious in no time.

Did anyone play Pillars of Eternity? Was it any good, or was it a flop? I stopped following it a while ago and haven't heard anything.
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>>334808913
Oh, I forgot about the 100 floor drow dungeon
I lucked out and found the exit in ten floors, but shit, what a low effort piece of garbage that was, just the nashkell mines repeated over and over
The last room though, that was a great goddamned room. There must be at least 300 druagar coming in waves of 30. That was a hoot.
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>>334808986
played through poe once, didn't get the add-ons but it wasn't a great game.
it was ok, but it sort of felt hollow.
i don't know how to explain but it really felt like it needed a lot of content and time
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>>334808986
The main component of PoE is overall good. Its not as good as the classics; which is why /v/ sort of hates PoE. PoE was suppose to be the leader in bringing about the cRPG renaissance and failed to be that spectacular.

So if you were to ask /v/ they will tell you its mediocre/shit but in truth its not as bad as they say. However its not amazing.
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>>334809496
i still have hope for torment: tides of numenera although i'm not expecting that much of it anymore.
anyways about PoE, pretty sure only haters/shitposters will bash it, everyone else seems to think it's ok but nothing special
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>>334809496
That's understandable. I should've assumed as much, as that seems to be the case with /v/ and it's critiques, more often than not.

Saw the trailer for Dragonspear last week. The Irenicus dialogue had me real excited, but then I started getting wind of all the political controversy. Though, it seemed as if it was just minor spergy humor of Amber Scott, and the game itself wasn't "ruined." Struck me as a minor thing blown out of proportion. Could be wrong, tho
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>>334810008
the political controversy is stupid and/or annoying but what annoys me the most is how many bugs they've managed to get into the game.
just like the bg EEs (not sure about iwd ee), massive amount of bugs that completely makes , at least the mp, unplayable.
i tried to play bg1 ee with 2 or 3 friends, got halfway between candlekeep and friendly arm inn and just had to stop playing, so many crashes and other issues
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>>334810008
PoE is also considerably better now than at launch.
It had some very bad bugs at launch, like save game corruption (every time you reloaded the game some of your equipment's stats were permanently added to your character stats, stacking) among others, which left a bad taste in people's mouth. I restarted the game twice, and got bored of doing the same shit all over again and ended up just dropping it.
I will give it another go soon now that it's in a playable state.
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>>334810710
did they fix the save/load time issue?
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>>334808453
Pure combat expansion, lovely for power gamers. Just like Dark Horizons and everything from Teambg
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>>334808750
Widest selection, lowest prices and nary a fancy illustration.
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>>334809496
When you promise to have all the best parts of IE games and fail miserably, i think people have a right to be mad
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Guys, I'm stuck. Do I bet on Cainn or <UNRECOGNIZED TOKEN>?
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>>334812914
Unrecognized Token of course
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>pure divine caster
Why are they so boring?
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>>334813403
Because you're not playing a druid
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>>334813794
Druids have like 5 good spells though
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>>334813998
They have plenty of good spells.
Plus animal companion and shapeshift.
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>>334804471
Can anyone tell me where to find some trouble free downloads for any of these games? I got both NWN titles with (I think) all expansions, but I'd love to try one of the other titles as well.
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>>334814150
Should have mentioned i was talking about bg i guess
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>>334805584
wrong

>>334814195
GOG
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>>334814195
https://kickass.unblocked.red/usearch/baldur's%20gate/
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>>334812914
KURWA
GIBE CLAY
PIEROGI
HUSARIA
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>>334812914
What's it like having such an ugly language?
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>>334812760
I don't think they failed miserably, I think you guys are retarded
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>>334808590
That's not a game, that's a monster
It fucked up the sound system of my old pc, and I couldn't even uninstall it properly
Fuck it and fuck everyone who was involved in its creation
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>>334814619
>Project Eternity will take the central hero, memorable companions and the epic exploration of Baldur’s Gate, add in the fun, intense combat and dungeon diving of Icewind Dale, and tie it all together with the emotional writing and mature thematic exploration of Planescape: Torment.
It fulfilled none of those. It was a failure.
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>>334814248
>>334814392
Thank you both anons
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>>334814248
>>334805584
You are all wrong but i will tolerate your false opinions.
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>>334815018
Remember to play BG1 with Easytutu and Unfinished Business and to play BG2 with the BGfixpack, Ascension, and Wheel of prophecy.
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>>334815151
>dr*w
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>>334815236
Could you tell me what you mean by all that? Are those extra programs I have to download?
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>>334815349
FIlthy riviin. Vit oss.
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>>334810526
Probably the biggest reason I didn't immediately buy it: bugs. Especially when you consider, yes, all other "Enhanced" titles were similarly bugged to an almost unplayable state at release. Things are going well with the new April update though, at least with BGEE itself. I had just wrapped up infiltrating the bandit camp last night on a new Core Rules game with a human ranger. Shit's pretty fun when you're in the mood for it.
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>>334815349
wait, you want a drow inside you?
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>>334815475
yeah, but going well now is pretty weak since it was released like 4 years ago iirc.
oh well, i might buy SoD in a few years when they've fixed most of the bugs
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>>334815374
Easytutu is a mod that lets you play BG1 in the BG2 engine and Unfinished Business restores cut content. You could also get the NPC project so you have more interactions with your party members. Ascension is a mod for ToB made by one of the devs for BG2 to flesh out the expansion some more and Wheel of Prophecy makes ToB a little less linear while adding some cut content.
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I can't believe how shit the combat is in NWN2 OC. The story is fine, but god the dungeon design is atrocious.

There are scripted triggers literally everywhere that send the entire room at you. It's completely impossible to scout.
I'm sending a rogue ahead hiding in the shadows AND with invisibility cast on her, so I can see the enemy and plan my first spells and crowd controls, and you can see the scripts firing as the entire room runs outside, even though they cannot see the rogue.
It makes planning ahead completely pointless and just turns the game into a zergfest as you move ahead in the dungeon with your blob.
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>>334815590
>>334815475
I'm about to finish SoD today and i find /v/ opinions far from reality. Apart from a few cringy points when i can just see landwhale's writing the expansion was good. Hell, mizhena was the least annoyong one. I really enjoyed all tye new dungeons and the last battle of dragonspear was epic on insane. The other downside are many bugs that i only encountered in the expansion. I had a few CTDs and graphical artifacts, also characters get stuck midway sometimes. I hope they will fix it for the next time i will play it.
Overally while original story is 10/10, i will give 8/10 to dragonspear. Very nice but could have been better.
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>>334816016
i wasn't talking about /v/'s opinions, was talking about how buggy everyone says it is and how buggy bg1ee/bg2ee were.
i really don't feel like playing any game as buggy as those were and if it took them 4 years to fix the bugs, i'm not going to buy SoD in a long time
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Nathyrra was tasty
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bretty gud one actually
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>>334816181
At least basic EE is fixed already. I didn't even know of enhanced editions until a year ago so missed all the major shitstorms.
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>>334816356
Yeah, vastly underrated.
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>>334816356
>german PnP game
I bet it's overdesigned and autistic
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>>334816395
i wouldn't use the word "already" when the game was released in february 2012 or something like that.
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>>334816447
It is
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>>334816447
Realms of Arkania dumps a fat ogre shit on it when it comes to autistic level of details
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>>334816207
She's a qt.
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>>334816447
>>334816515
still an enjoyable game
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>>334814560
Majestic.
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>>334814560
Okay, its just very bad for tabletops. All locations names sound silly and you can't apply any flavour to your roleplay because all accents don't work.
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How enjoyable are the old Golden Box games if I've never played them before?
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>>334817169
Those covers almost makes me want to play them
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>>334817346
If only the games looked like the covers
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>>334804471
>That comfy as heck mansion in the top left with the only big natural pond in BG behind it

Love it.
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>>334817464
I believe that's the Silvershield estate. And I believe the Iron Throne saw Entar Silvershield as a threat or some shit, and assassinated him, I think. The details are fuzzy, but I believe that's sort of how it goes.
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>>334817464
Robbing Entar Silvershield is the best burglary i had. It ended by fleeing from 20 guards.
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>>334814965
hot opinions there anon
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Is Able Learner a good feat in NWN1/2? It lets you learn cross class skills for only 1 skill point instead of two. I've always overlooked this one, but I'm not sure if there are even enough good skills I want to get. I guess I could put points into tumble and use any item on my wizard.
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>>334818470
Won't they still be capped by level?
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>>334818470
I like to pick it to solo the game with ease so i don't need annoying henchmen to open my locks.
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>>334818580
It's still capped by clvl/2, yes.
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>>334804471
>Neverwinter Nights
>good
>even passable
>worthy of a single minute of your time

Just no. I was there. The release of NWN spelled the end of the WRPG. Watching those clunky graphics and dead environments being hailed as a worthy successor to BG and NWN just killed me inside.
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>>334818916
It has some good mods though.
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>>334818916
I really liked Hordes of the Underdark but that's about it. Didn't even finish the NWN campaign.
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>>334818916
When people talk about NWN they mean the expansions and modules. It's a great game and if you are a graphics fag you should hang yourself.
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>>334818470
It's only available in NWN2 iirc
It is INSANELY useful if you actually want to use a decent variety of skills, you're a human, or you have high INT
>>334818470
>but I'm not sure if there are even enough good skills I want to get. I guess I could put points into tumble and use any item on my wizard.
Take a level of Rogue (first if you're munchkiny) and enjoy. UMD is honestly for almost any class that can get access to it without sacrificing their build (so anything based on a Bard or Rogue with skill points to spare) and Tumble is alright if you have enough skill points, it was more useful in NWN1 because it gave double the relative bonus to AC

>>334818580
>>334818725
Not if you have the skill as a class skill for any of your classes.
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>>334819337
**UMD is honestly really useful

Excuse the double post, have a bump instead
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>>334819439
This isn't a forum m8 nobody cares about double posting
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>>334817169
RPGs from a different era that tried to do action combat without really being action games while STILL asking you to do all the menu navigation and casting spells in real time. Clunky as fuck, but generally good if you can get over the initial shock because they don't have roots in RTS, so to speak, the way "classic CRPGs" do when people think about them.
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>>334819150
The problem is that Legoland graphics also limit creative map making.
No one cares about low res textures, but when everything is made out of blocks, all modules will look the same without the ability to create some memorable or unique place.
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>>334819812
Pretty much. Which is why any organic locations look horrible in NWN1 when you get down to it and start noticing the pattern.
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>find cool item with some sweet x use/day power
>good, i'll put this on my warrior so he has some special attacks
>after every single dungeon when sorting through loot, i realize that "oh yeah I completely forgot about using this, well i'll use it from now on!"
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>>334819812
You are the cancer that killed RPGs by putting style over substance and mechanical depth. I'll take low poly shit any day of the week over shallow garbage. It's clear you haven't played many modules either.
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>>334819812
If that's true, why are there so many more modules for NWN1 than 2? I think what you mean is that YOU lack creativity and need shiny graphics to make up for it.
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>>334821746
it's like you didn't read his post
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>>334821960
Because it came out earlier and people didn't want to migrate to NWN2.
Also the toolset is MUCH easier to use, exactly because it uses lego blocks instead of actual terrain sculpting.
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>>334821873
>I can only "role"play myself so I need a character maker that lets me make my self-insert because I don't have the fantasy to play anything else
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>>334821746
>ultra hostile and judgmental response

Fact of the matter is that Warcraft 3 came out around the same time and has morphable terrain and isn't constrained to grid-based mapmaking. That would have improved Neverwinter Nights considerably.
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>>334822139
>I lack the imagination to make my own character so I need someone to tell me what character to play
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>heard that Anomen is god tier at killing undead
>have him (lv9) turn undead in the Shade dungeon (Ulmar)
>skeleton warrior reckt his ass
what did i do wrong?
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Do NWN expansions have evil roleplay options or you're paladin saving the day again?
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>>334821746
>You are the cancer that killed RPGs by putting style over substance and mechanical depth. I'll take low poly shit any day of the week over shallow garbage. It's clear you haven't played many modules either.

Why even bother playing CRPGS in the first place with this idiotic mindset.
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>>334822178
Wait until he makes another angry response telling you that detailed terrain would have actually made NWN worse, and that it has far superior art design than NWN2.
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>>334822315
Skeleton warrior is actually a relatively powerful undead, he didn't have enough level to turn it.
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>>334822315
his fighter levels are holding him back, they gave him the stupidest weapon proficeincies. Turn undead only really works if you're a pure level since your CL affects turn undeads strength. Shades are some of the BADDEST undead out there and have high saving throws so they just ignore it. You need magical weapons for them, and giving him a magical mace and shield and he'll toe to toe them. Plus he can buff himself hella before a fight and use cure wounds to hurt undead.


tl;dr turn undead is only good in normal 2E or in later DnD eds. BG turn undead sucks in 90% of the situations you use it. like unless it's a literal skeleton horde, which if they are low enough level they will just evaporate or run away like goons.
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>low level bg with no ranged weapons
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>>334822315
>Turn undead
>TURN

Why is it even called this? Why not just "harm/kill undead" ?
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>>334822971
How did you not buy at least some normal sling/shortbow from the first vendor
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>>334822752
Turn(undead or whatever you chose from your domains) is extremely powerful in NWN.
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>>334823051
Because it doesn't (or doesn't usually) kill undead. It makes them fear the cleric, hence, turning them away. It was suppose to emulate a priest holding up a holy symbol and driving back a vampire.
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>>334823051
Because normally the spell forces undead to turn away from you and run away in fear, as they cannot face the divine light coming from the priest.

Instagibbing is a secondary effect that only happens if you're far outleveling the undead.
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>>334822971
There are *ranged* mele weapons you know that right?Spells?
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>>334823051
It's short for "turn undead into shreds"
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How do you usually deal against mages, or high level mages? With a low level and high level group in Baldur's Gate 1-2?
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>>334823563
>low level
Arrows
>high level
Breach then arrows
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>>334822752
i see, so Anomen is not that good then
how about killing mages? i use dispel all the time but still have a hard time killing them, especially when they cast chaos?
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>>334822752
In BG turn undead can be useful sometimes, if you have an evil cleric, you will actually take control of the undead instead of killing them, which can be useful as a distraction, there are also other types of undead that although weak can be annoying for their abilities like vampires, if vampires are fleeing they can't drain your levels.
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>>334819812
>what is custom tilesets
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>>334823643
Dispel isn't reliable unless you're an inquisitor and Anomen is great, give him a sling and watch him rekt shit
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>>334823643
Dispel magic is level dependent, if the enemy mage has a higher level than you do, is not going to work.
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>>334822402
You can steal a baby and then turn him into a drider.
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>>334823563
Get your own mages/druids/clerics

contingency breachs/piereces/etc
cheese them with doors if that's an option.
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>>334823851
>>334823764
then what should i do with high level mages then? most of them are high level and the only spell that i think of that is good against them is insect plague, but that shit take a long time to cast
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>>334824143
Use Breach and kill them
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>>334824143
Remember that area effect spells are not absorbed by spell mantle. They also don't care if they are invisible. Sometimes you can just spam his surroundings.

If his defenses are not scripted to be automatically cast before the combat even begins, a thief can often oneshot kill him with backstab.

Or you can just cast cloudkill and close the door.
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>>334824143
You can always send a horde of summoned skeletons to tank the damage until the mage is casting all his shit on them and his protective spells are down.
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>>334824143
Get Keldorn who has a cheat version of dispel.
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>dat feel when I need a mistake and joined the club of unfortunate souls having played through NWN1 OC as a rogue

Jesus Christ. How can you make the game th most bland and tedious as possible? Roll a rogue, that's how.
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>>334824143
If you have a weapon with elemental damage, the elemental damage bypasses stoneskin and is able to interrupt their spells.
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>>334824507
What are you talking about?Rogues are pretty much mages that have to pay for their spells.
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>>334824143
Slayer form
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Does EE have proper multiplayer yet?
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So, let's be real here - is Siege of Dragonspear worth playing?
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>>334824724
What was the problem with the EE multiplayer? I played a full campaign with a friend with no issues
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>>334824724
it always did, I just wish they actually used steam's servers for that shit instead of making me emulate lan.
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>>334824756
no but the dev also update the engine of this expansion to BG2 EE, so BG2 looks better now imo, i don't know why but i like the black outline of characters
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>>334824842
They promised all sorts of matchmaking features and such, but then when the game was released they turned their heels.

It took them what 4 years to even put the normal multiplayer in that was in the original game?
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>>334824756
Yes it's worth playing if you like BG.
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>>334824143
Just Cloudkill. You get a wand at the beginning of BG2 that you can sell to recharge. Just spam that everytime a mage as much as trying to cast something.
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>>334824660
Scrolls aren't that hot when they are cast at minimum effective caster level and base DC.
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How many henchmen can you have in neverwinter?
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I've played these games to hell and back, but never beat any. I'm in the mood for some good old cRPG action. Could anyone recommend which of these games I should play?
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>>334825476
One in OC and SoU, 2-3 in HotU.
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>>334825476
Depends on the module
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>>334823953
>Did this to the first assassin when going for Minsc in BG1
>Those fucking hold person spells that always hit and meant certain death
>Thought I was the smartest and hottest shit for coming up with this amazing tactic

It sure was fun before the modern internet.
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>>334822056
NWN2's toolset was also a buggy and broken at launch.
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A Dance With Rogues
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>>334824724
Its pretty decent despite a few cringy moments caused by amber scott and some bugs causing lags and ctds sometimes. Gameplay is very good, you get a lot of satisfaction from battles. Dungeon crawling part is the best from this game. Also the siege itself is epic on insane difficultity.
So yes, try it. Major bugs were fixed in latest patch.
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>>334822312
> I'd rather have a shallow by-the-numbers character creator and a PC with no personality rather than a intricately crafted character who I can give nuance in interactions because it's actually written into a story rather than being cookie-cutter.
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>>334825639
Baldur's gate 2, PS:T and Fallout are the best old school RPGs.
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>>334826854
>geralt of rivia
>intricately crafted and nuanced
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>>334804471
Crimson Tides of Tethyr is actually really good on your first playthrough. Any after that and the unskippable cutscenes will kill it for you.
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>tfw that final fight in Knights of the Chalice
What the fuck is the point of this shit? You abuse Dominate Monster to win or you lose and even if you're doing things perfectly it's still retardedly slow.
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>>334827098
In W1 he was.

He could be
> fatalistic
> maker of his own destiny
> existentialist

His political opinions could be

> rebellious, siding with the Scoia'tael

> neutral, sympathising with the law or the Scoia'tael just as much as the player wants to

> lawful, siding with the order and the law

Personally

> fuck all women
> be faithful, or even abstinent
> violent and revelling in it
> fighting only when you need to

And finally gameplay mechanics

> full sign wizard, different spells and bonuses to chose and tech into
> full swordsman, tech into different combos for both swords
> mixed style, focus on 1-2 signs, develop decent combat skills, alchemy and oils

And dont even start on the possibilites for alchemy.

Now let's take a character creator game:

> only difference is what skills they use, no personality, cookie-cutter dialogue.

Nice role-playing game there phamalam
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>>334828065
No he always had the same boring voice and personality and there is nothing that you can do to change that.

The Witcher would be 10x better if you could just make your own character.
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>>334828732
With Wither III Geralt's story has ended. I heard that it is possible that you will be able to create your own witcher in next game. Trust me I'm polish.
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a friend and i have been attempting to do a hardcore (no death/reload) run of BG2 for like 100 hours

still haven't made it past chapter 2
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>>334828973
Can you make a girl witcher?
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>>334819812
What >>334823749 said. Being "legoland" is exactly why NWN is so good. Millions of pieces you can use to put together a module very easily and custom pieces people can make for different settings. It's not like everything has to be a narrow corridor either. Hell there's even tileset replacers for the NWN OC if you're feeling masochistic.

>>334828732
You originally were going to be able to make your own character for The Witcher.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMmFiQp3Q_4
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>>334829293
I guess so. Not much things are confirmed in polish media. Also CDP is still updating witcher with new expansions. Another pc only patch is promised. It will add even higher graphic options for pc only.
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HEYA
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>>334829713
IT'S ME
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>>334828732

So you essentially have no argument other than "no"?
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>>334829801
>>334829713
>she doesn't know how hard buttfucking will await her.
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>You will never play A Dance with Rogues for the first time ever again
>Dark Paladins of Knox will never, ever get finished
>Demonhearts dev went full retard and is turning the final chapter into an HTML game with no sexual content
>The Wink and Kiss part 2 hasn't been updated since last August
Hello darkness my old friend
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>>334830089
at least modules are still being made
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Are there any good cRPGs that have action combat but don't go full diablo clone with barely existant writing besides Divine Divinity?
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>>334829801
THE GIRL THEY BROUGHT IN, SHE'S A CUTE ONE, ISN'T SHE?
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>>334830331
what does action combat even mean
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>>334830331
Define action combat
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>>334830386
I suppose combat that is user input and isn't turn-based
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>>334829835
RPGs are about choices. If you just want to be told a story there are other genres such as VN.
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>>334829801
IMOEN
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>>334830424
>>334830386
Not realtime with pause or turn-based
Sorry if I sound like a pleb, I haven't played many cRPGs
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>>334824756
If you like low level adventures and only want to use spell levels 1-6 then sure, go ahead.
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>>334830331
gothic 1/2
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>>334830503
I wouldn't say they're all about choices. If so, most classic RPGs aren't RPGs by your definition.
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>>334830591
The first time I played through Durlag's Tower was one of the most fun and memorable times I've ever had dungeon crawling.
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>>334830503
>RPGs only started being RPGs later
Full retard.
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>>334830603
I'm still sad that "open world" these days just means mostly empty collectathons instead of handcrafted worlds with something to discover around every corner
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>>334830242
Modules are being started for sure, but as usual fucking nobody has the will to see it through to the end. It's like everybody expects a Patreon page with $20K a month to fall into their lap just because they put out a five minute demo to a module, and when it doesn't they just abandon ship.
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>>334830852
>tfw skipped it
I have to do another playthrough with UB and the NPC mod and actually do the expansion too.
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>>334830958
Swordflight is still being worked on and two chapters are already out.
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>do evil run in BG One
>reveal 1 square mm of fog inside Baldur's Gate
>"AH SURRVE TH' FLAMIN' FIST"

That would've made the game impossible for a weaker party.
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I like how all the classics of the late 90s and early 00s were made by roughly 3 companies who also often worked together
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>>334831106
Kinda realistic that they want to hunt down the villain.
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>>334830985
The dungeon itself intertwines heavily with the rest of the TotSC quest additions. Durlag's Tower was just super fuckin' cool to me. Well written, interesting encounters and puzzles, and utterly brutal at some points with traps and such. It felt like going below the tower teleported your party to a nightmarish dwarven hell.
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How easy Baldurs Gate is with a custom party? I want to play it on legacy of bhaal with op powergamer party.
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>>334831229
RPGs were stuck in a rut for a while before BG came out and BG proved they could still sell very well. Too bad games like Skyrim and Fallout 4 sell more.
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What's the best class to play through SoU and HotU, assuming I won't be multiclassing?
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>>334831331
6 Archers, nothing can stop you
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>>334831521
Cleric.
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>>334831521
There's some paladin exclusive swords in HotU iirc. Shifters are always fun but you won't have access to them for a while in SoU.
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>>334831245

You think they'd regroup and try a different approach after I mercilessly and effortlessly slaughter 30+ of them in a row
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Are mages not OP broken shit in any of those games?
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>>334831765

mages are by far the best once they reach a certain level (in BG2); but they're pretty bad until they can get their high level spells
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>>334831765
They are less powerful in IWD.
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>You have been waylaid by enemies and must defend yourself
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>>334831765
any dnd mage is about bending reality to your whim. At least in 2e/3x

Rest in peace 4e, you will be missed. <3
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>>334832064
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards
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>>334832131
>wyvern encounter
>bears
>ogre mages
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>>334832272
Bears are so derpy and easy to shoot down. Yet they give a lot of xp.
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>>334831641
What's the best starting class for a shifter? Would sorcerer do?
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>>334832131
>>334832272
oh my god
the ettercap/spider encounter with fucking web traps
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>>334832383
Druid for sure. Also wisdom is the only stat that carries over when shifting and you can put one level in monk for an AC wisdom bonus when you shift into something.
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>>334832383
It's Druid-only, why the fuck would you do anything else?
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>>334832357
Unless you have great Dex and AC bears will SMACK yo ass up good if they get within range.
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>>334832506
Didn't realise wildshape is druid specific feat. It says nothing about druids in the class description.
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>>334832735
Shifter is a prestige class that requires Druid.
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>>334832735
Wildshape is a class feature, not a feat.
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I'm about to play BG1 for the first time
Should I go blind into class creation or can I fuck myself over if I don't know shit about D&D?
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>>334833065
Fighter and Ranger are your friends.
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>>334833065
Every class is viable even wizard slayer although it's not optimal. Just remember for fighters you want high dex and strength. For THAC0 and AC less is more and you have to memorize spells and rest to regenerate them after use.
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>>334833065
If you don't know shit about D&D, I suggest playing as a melee tank or a ranger, magic users are hard to play in the first game
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>>334833289
Isn't ranger just a shit fighter?
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>>334833423
No.
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>>334833065
Play as Fighter Berserker or Paladin Cavalier. and you will be fine. These are the most noob friendly classes.
As fighter try to get as high strenght, dexterity and constitution. Anything else doesn't matter. Go with longsword proficiency.
As Paladin its the same but some charsma and wisdom is needed too. Go with 2h swords as paladin
Also remember to reroll your stats until you have around 85-90 overall.
If you need any protips ask away.
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>>334833423

rangers can hide and use divine spells + charm person/animal

archers are also one of the most broken classes in the game that isn't a mage or a thief, and beast master is pretty good until ToB
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>>334833649
broken as in OP?
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VH and ADWR are the only games were I felt like a girl. It was so fucking hot.
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Do you get to Cloakwood very often? Oh what am I saying, of course you don't
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>>334833798
What's VH?
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>>334833783

yes, they do obscene damage. they start to fall off a bit in ToB, but for 90% of BG1/BG2 they are absolutely nuts, and no other class in the game can reliably field so much damage

they're a bit squishy, though, so alternatively you could roll a fighter GM spec'd for bows and wear plate (for less dps/more bulk)
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>>334833649
I would not recommend archer for a noob because its a glass cannon for the most of the game as i remember.
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>>334833065
It's really basic. All you need to plan your character is this
http://web.archive.org/web/20150130020858/http://playithardcore.com/pihwiki/index.php?title=Baldur%27s_Gate:_Races_and_Stats
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>>334833798
>VH

Whats that?
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>>334832064
Mages are OP starting from level 1 as soon as you get Sleep.
Of course a solo mage is crap, but if you have a party, a mage is a better addition than any other class.
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>>334834210
>>334833878
Probably Violated Heroine.
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>>334834274
>Mages are OP starting from level 1 as soon as you get Sleep.

mages are substantially worse than berserkers, archers, thieves, and multiclass fighter/druid, fighter/clerics until they reach about level 12-13, where they slowly catch up. for utility? yeah they're awesome, but for damage, survivability, reliability, etc, they're very underwhelming comparatively

it's not until the mid/late teens that mages truly start becoming OP, and even then thieves pretty much stay right with them, since traps are gamebreakingly stupid

tldr; mages and thieves are LEAGUES above every other class in the game, but not until the end of SoU/beginning of ToB
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>tfw can't finish multiplayer NWN campaign with anybody, everyone fucking quits on me midgame
Thanks.
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>>334834575
>there are still people playing the nwn campaign online
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>>334816356
I liked the first one better. Like the second one has a lot of obvious improvements in terms of encounters and polish and mechanical depths but who the hell thought it was a good idea to give you only what, five companions and on one occasion you have to pick between two of them and if you don't take the mage there won't be another one in the entire game?

Or something like that. It's been a while.
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>>334834575
>got my friends to install The Prophet for a co-op campaign over the weekend
>they all change their mind the day before we start playing
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What weapon proficiencies for an elf fighter/mage with a party running through the whole trilogy (minus SoD)?
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>>334834767
>>334834575

It is a huge commitment though
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>try to install wheels of profecy
>error
>search, patch 2.0

Classic Beamdog
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>>334834925
I went longsword/flail as an elf. You could get a warhammer prof for crom faeyr.
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>>334834925
Two-handed sword is pretty good.
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>>334834575
>never played a forgotten realms game online
>always wished i could play with friends one day
>know nobody that like old rpg

just kill me
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Why is she so perfect /v/?
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>>334834925
Longswords and longbows is gud. Remember that shield gives you much ac and it does't stop you from casting spells armor does.
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>>334834982
One of them got turned off by NWN because of the OC and the other has a hateboner for 3E. a-at least there's all these good SP modules for me to play alone.
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>>334835556
She's evil though
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What's up with the elderly cRPG thread as of recent?
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>>334804471
Dungeon Siege has been overlooked by many. It starts slow, but as soon you get 2, 3, 4, 5 party member you all control and manage it's really enjoyable to rek everything on your way and see loot drop left and right. Too much loot? Just get a donkey that runs after you for much bag space
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>>334834419
Thats not even a NWN module.
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>tfw Dark Sun and Eberron will never have old school isometric games

Fuck the Forgotten Realms.
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>>334835556
Imoen is more perfect
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>>334835776
The only Diablo clone I actually enjoyed. Have you tried the Ultima remake on it?
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>>334835640
She just wants to live a quiet life bruv
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>>334835687
Game in the UK was selling pillars of eternity for £5 last week. (might still be) and as a game that would have been on a lot of peoples 'when the price is right' list it's probably picked up a few thousand new players in the last week. Also a baldurs gate expansion was released in the last month or so.

Basically more cRPG action in the last 2 months than the last 2 years.
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>>334836073
I didn't know about any mods, I will look it up
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>>334835556
Jaheira is better. Too bad her romance ends somewhat abruptly in SoA.
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>>334836202
>Basically more cRPG action in the last 2 months than the last 2 years.
We had Underrail and Age of Decadence at the beginning of the year too. Those were very good, especially AoD.
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>>334833812
Coran is GOAT Bowman of BG1.
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>>334836597
The EE for Divinity OS came out recently too.
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>>334836780
>playing SoD
>"there are some of your former thief companions in this tavern ;)"
>oh cool, maybe I'll get Coran, he's useful
>can only recruit the fat whore
FUCK
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>>334836096
Brawnwen > Viconia
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>>334837034
what? you can't pick him up in SoD? aren't him and Safana paired up canonically tho?
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>>334837034
Does Jaheira show up in the new expansion?
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