Still the hardest boss fight in the series
>>334789920
Orphan of Kos is harder.
that's not blue smelter demon, anon
you cant turtle against blue smelter demon by carrying a greatshield, unlike O&S
Multiple bosses in DaS3 are harder than O&S. Pontiff, Champion Gundyr, Dragonarmour and Nameless King all put up a harder fight. Hell Champion Gundyr pretty much boils down to luck due to his unpredictable attack patterns.
Also, hard =/= good
>>334789986
if you use iframes to roll through O&S, is blue smelter demon easier?
>>334789920
I'd be hyped as fuck to play that version. Bet it'd have less bugs too.
>>334790057
>unpredictable
Found the scrub
>>334789973
>bloodborne
>hard
no, the fact that the dash goes further than a fastroll than other souls games, with more iframes, makes that game extremely easy.
>>334789973
You just gotta keep distance of him. He's just very aggressive. Ebrietas, Daughter of the Cosmos was way harder
>>334789920
>Upgrade pyromancy as high as possible
>Use a close range flame pyromancy
Easy as piss
>Orphan of Kos
>Fume Knight
>Martyr Logarius
>Pthumerian Descendant
>Manus
>Lud and Zallen
>Undead GiantChains and Hooks edition
>>334789920
Except that boss is incredibly easy the instant you stop being intimidated by two bosses at once and learn the fight
>>334789973
This maybe the only fight where you can know everything about the fight and still get your ass handed to you.
>>334790065
Even regular smelter demon was a bitch to add some validation, couldn't imagine a more annoying one. Ornstein and smough was a tricky fight but one usually cock blocked the other and you had pillars to Los with, pontiff sulyvahn is much harder if you don't cheese it with magic; ds3 mobs have 0% chill
>>334790214
I don't think that you've actually played it.
>>334789920
>be a "pixel artist"
>still have fucking AA on your pictures
Took me at least 20 tries the first time, beat them like a man, sword only.
>>334790057
champion gundyr and dragon armor are nothing compared to O&S.
>>334790261
it's hard for me to tell if pontiff is harder. it took me like 20 tries to beat O&S but only 4 tries to beat pontiff because i've gotten a lot better at the game.
but taking a step back and trying to look at it rationally i can say pontiff is harder to predict and is much faster. however i can't pinpoint if he is harder, the same, slightly easier, etc.
>>334790057
>found Champion Gundyr and Dragonslayer Armor difficult
Pontiff is top tier hard
Aldrich is harder than O&S
Nameless king is artifically hard due to its camera.
But Dragonslayer armor is insanely easy. Nigga is so damn slow, and Champion Gundyr is literally an easier version of tutorial boss.
>>334790342
every single bloodborne thread i go in and claim its easy, you people show up
when i post a picture of my character in NG+ with the stone to prove i beat all chalice dungeons, you say its photoshopped. nothing makes you happy, nobody is ever allowed to say anything negative about bloodborne.
i'm sorry you have to defend the game this hard.
OK. So ornstein was the last true Knight but an illusion, but amough was the living one?
O&S is one of those fights where I beat it my first try but got my ass handed to me on my second playthrough 20 times.
>>334790485
Post it with a time stamp?
>tfw Ornstien never completed his mission of killing the Nameless king
;_;
>>334790537
i won't dance to your tune only to be shouted down once i take yet another timestamped image, i'll just leave instead. there is no genuine discussion to be had here.
>>334789973
SCP-106 called, he wants his look back
>>334790587
God, you're such a faggot.
>>334790471
>Pontiff is top tier hard
M8 he's not even the hardest boss in ds3
>alderich is harder than O&S
Bullshit, 2nd phase arrows is the only difficult thing in that fight
Everything else you posted is correct though
>>334790057
Everyone hyped up the champ but I killed him first attempt with no ember or summons. Other than a kick and longer combos I don't see how a boss sharing 50% of its move set with the first boss is so good. Nameless King on the other hand is kicking my ass.
Best fights in 3 are the twins, and the King. I haven't fought he last boss yet though.
Drake and josh is simple once you learn their shit. Best fight in dark souls, but not hardest in the series
>>334790563
Why would he want to kill the Nameless King?
>>334789920
>hardest boss fight
>literally beat them with shit
uh huh
>>334790471
how is aldrich hard
apart from having to run away from the annoying arrows, theres nothing hard about that boss at all
Fume Knight and the 2 cats are the hardest for me. Bosses in DaS3 have no fucking hp even in NG+, Fume Knight has like 10k hp in NG and can 2 shot you at 40 VIG
>>334790471
>Pontiff is top tier hard
Literally killed him first try. A bunch of his attacks don't even hit you if you're close to him.
It's always a matter of match-up anyway, some boss will be hard or easy depending on what weapon you'll be using.
>>334790710
(you)
>>334790563
Bro, Ornstien IS the Nameless king.
Theyre Gwyns firstborn.
Is there a 2d/pixel art souls game that actually exists?
>>334790789
I fucking hate everything involving 2 cats.
The Ivory King is acoolboss fight, but everything else in that DLC is some of the worst shit I've dealt with in a Souls game.
>>334790653
Who is the hardest boss in Ds3 then? The literal only bosses I died to were Pontiff (3 times) Aldrich (5 times) Ancient Wyvren (once, didnt know the jump on trick) Nameless King (once)
>>334790952
salt and sanctuary?
>>334790701
Because he betrayed his father, Gwyn, by fighting alongside dragons?
>>334790814
I agree.
He was too easy, but all the casuals scream about him because they all either build heavy armour or a dex build with no health.
The only boss I had trouble with, was the Dancer.
>>334790587
Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
>>334790962
I have never beat the 2 cats in NG+ and beyond without popping a brightbug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqg9IfsQgq0
>>334791052
>dancer
She has 1 easily telegraphed move that can kill you if you have any sort of health.
Did you also make a heavy armor or dex build?
>>334791070
That's because you fucking suck.
>>334791006
Not that Anon, but Nameless King for sure.
All the git gud I acquired fighting Pontiff Sully over and over meant nothing to that motherfucker.
>>334791125
Nah bro, faith/str/vig build.
I died to her on NG+, after getting trapped in a corner trying to Estas.
>>334791156
I only found the Storm King part of that fight hard, due to the unstable camera. The actual king himself is easy enough.
>>334791052
Also killed her first try. She wasn't fast enough or tanky enoguh to be a threat. But I died around 20 times at Gundyr. My trusty great club was just too slow. Switched to a darkblade and got him.
It's always a matter of build/weapon
>>334791224
I found Dancer to be one of the easier bosses, but Pontiff caused me lots of trouble due to his split. It all coems down to how you play.
>>334790057
>literally posting the final boss of the game
>the fucking game cover is literally the final boss
>implying it's not Ebrietas
>>334791328
>implying its not Ludd and Zalan
>>334791328
I destroyed her with the Hunter's Axe. The only thing you need to watch out for is her lasers since they're off camera.
>>334789920
according to From in 2014, Fume Knight won 93% of the time, I don't think anything has topped that
>>334789920
Artorias and the 3x manticores are harder and in the same game.
Ornstein and Smough are easily one of the most fun and memorable in the series though.
Hardest, no
Best, yes, especially if you go for Super Ornstein
>>334791328
How did anyone struggle with Ebriatas? I've played through BB on like 5 characters using different builds, and never once have I understood how that boss is a threat. She just constantly gets stuck animation looping and wallowing around like a potato.
One time i saw her get a cast off of the big arcane nuke, and it was kinda scary; but if you're just on top of her (like bloodborne demands you do to everything all the time every time), she's utterly worthless potato-tier easy.
Not even trolling; what does she do that kills anyone? ever?
>didn't parry at all because I thought it was a cheap tactic
>reach Gwyn
>get asswhopped most out of all bosses
I feel bad for all of you parrying pussies.
>>334790587
>trust me, i've posted it before, and no i won't post it again
okay guy
The only trick in the fight is patience. Circle the round and you will literally never die seen you can see their attack from a mile. Wait for ornstein to do his charge Lance move, hit him 2 twice. Roll to avoid the inevitable hammer drop. Repeat. Phase 2 should be a cakewalk.
>>334791328
I don't know what I was most disappointed by.
Hearing all this shit about how fucked Ebrietas is and her being incredibly easy or doing all the fucking chalice dungeon nonsense only to have the queen be a total pushover.
>>334791280
I suppose so.
I never have used a shield, and just packing a chime in one hand (for lightening stake and lightening blade), and an Astora Straight Sword in the other (it scales amazingly with faith).
Also, Wolnir's sword is beast,
>>334789920
The fuck you on? O&S aren't even the hardest boss in their own game if you count Manus. Pontiff and Nameless king shit on him, and Orphan is easily harder, regardless of your opinion on BB.
>>334789920
>Smough Train + Gold Pinwheel
>hardest boss fight in the series
Eh. DaS2 made him a little faster and that improved it, but small Ornstein by himself is really pathetic. The only threat in the fight is in fact Smough's Train.
how do you even pronounce smough
>>334792057
Phoughnetically.
>>334792057
"Smough"
>>334791713
Best sword is Bloodlust you get from Mound covenant.
Where you stab yourself.
>>334792057
Snow with an m
Smow
>>334791772
I never understood why people think Manus is hard outside of his combo move he's a complete joke. The hardest boss in DaS is Kalameet or Gywn without parrys or cheesing.
>>334789920
Capra demon was the hardest. It's literally a coin toss on whether you survive.
Smough and Ornberg aren't even that hard if you just one of them at a time.
>>334789920
This boss was absolute dick for me in ng+
I have yet to fight any DaS3 bosses in ng+ but I fucking hate most of them
I'm sure bloodborne is a great game but none of the bosses look very interesting to me
O&S are the EASIEST double boss fight in the series, not counting Gargoyles. Maneaters, L&Z, King of the Storm and Nameless King are all harder. Hell, the fucking 2 croc dogs in Aldrich's fuck pool are harder, and they're not even bosses.
After finishing all Souls games, including BB, my verdict for the hardest bosses, for me at least, falls to Flamelurker, O&S, that dragon from 2, Fume Knight, Wet Nurse, and Aldrich.
These are not the best or the most fun, just the one that took me the longest to beat, with O&S stumping me for a month at the top. Not saying they aren't fun though, they still are.
>>334792349
(you)
>>334790057
>Dragonarmour
>hard
I'm a fucking scrub and beat it first try.
>>334792450
This. Dragonslayer was a nice surprise of easiness after pontiff and the dancer.
>>334792360
>Flamelurker
>hard
Flamelurker is just like Smelter anyone that knows how to roll well destroys them.
>>334792360
>Flamelurker
NG? He's a fucking joke.
>O&S
Babby's first "how do I deal with TWO bosses at once"
>Ancient Dragon
Absolute, and pure bullshit. The worst designed fight in the series before the numbers nerf.
>Fume Knight
It's a matter of getting gud, but Fume does have bullshit amounts of HP no question, and he's fairly hard.
>Wet Nurse
How?
>Aldrich
Let me guess, the arrows? Literally just circle around him, they only track fast in a straight line.
>>334792481
I was so shocked, his attack were all telegraphed and didn't string into 3+ attacks every single; fucking one. Butterfly laser was very easily dodgeable, the shit that gets flinged would wittle you down a bit though.
The boss felt so much "fairer" and DaS1 like.
>>334792353
sure thing bub
>>334792554
>Ancient Dragon
you can cheese him by equipping a fuckload of fire defence rings and armor and using that fire resistance pyromancy. His flame move will do literally no damage
but yeah he's still a horrible boss
>>334792394
It doesnt even take an insult to a game to
[Nygger Trigger]. It just has to be any opinion that has any semblance of negativity.
>>334792554
>ancient dragon
literally hug his left foot and he can't hit you
>>334792673
(you)
>>334792481
>Dancer
>Hard
Literally took me 2 tries, with a shitty butcher knife that did no damage and with base stamina, since upgrading endurance is for scrubs.
Dragonslayer armor took me 5 tries. Those fucking sword stances kept getting to me, and his shield bash sometimes came out of nowhere. Pontiff was hard though, he actually took me 6 tries to beat.
Champion Gundyr was hard as fuck though, everything else before him was easy.
>>334789920
I found Artorias to be more... troubling. Until I learned to roll properly through his attacks. That's how I got good.
>>334792717
>>334792673
>>334792394
>>334792349
Stop samefagging you autist.
>>334789920
I found Orphan of Kos, Ludwig, Manus, and the fucking black dragon from DaS 1 harder. Haven't finished DaSIII yet.
>>334792790
Nah
>>334792554
>>334792551
I panicked a lot in flamelurker for some reason. It's easy now, but on the first tries, I can't get a read of him for a good few dozen tries.
Same thing for wet nurse, the dark and the clones made me panic and go through the whole "this shit's impossible" spiel.
And I didn't figure out the circling thing for Aldrich's arrows until the third day on him.
>>334790057
>Champion Gundyr
This has to be some meme I missed out on, he was literally just as easy as Tutorial Gundyr, how did anyone find him hard at all?
>>334792731
I don't understand this "Abyss Watchers, Dancer, and Aldrich are hard" meme. Yet, the same fucking people tell me that the Champ, Nameless, and Pontiff aren't as hard. What the fuck is everyone smoking?
>>334789920
Not really. Fast roll let's you dance around them even at sl1
>>334792635
Thank fuck they nerfed it into an acceptable boss fight in SotFS so you don't have to do this anymore.
>>334792887
t. straight sword + greatshield user.
>>334792814
The Wetnurse's music box soundtrack fucked with me to the point where it took me like five tries to get past the fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uKdU19drsw
Harrowing.
Nah, the covetous demon is x200 harder.
>>334792982
I was using the fucking Drang Hammers
Literally, unironically git gud.
>>334793003
oh SHIT I forgot about that fat bastard
almost as good for soul grinding as the phalanx in the painted world
Can you summon an NPC for the Wolnir fight or am I alone playing offline? Killed that Knight Slayer twice in the Catacombs and got his weapons, cleared out Smouldering Lake and the Demon King.
>>334792897
Experiences can vary wildly depending on build, weapon & upgrade, and personality quirks. Some people are too aggressive, some can't handle mob encounters, and some just can't get used to cues.
With that said, only Nameless and Pontiff gave me trouble. Champ hits hard but he's not aggressive enough to stop estus chugging, and he's susceptible to strafe rolling despite his tracking.
>>334792731
>Dragonslayer
>Hard
I literally did it in one try with a shitty +2 ice sword that does shit all and with base stamina. That's what you sound like.
Dancer is harder in my opinion simply because of the combo moves, the grab to instantly kill if you don't buff up health and the spin to win attack.
>>334793093
He's easy if you have fast weapon but he's super hard with slow weapons.
I wonder if there are other NPCs like the log arrow giant who you can make friends with? I wish I could make friends with everyone, and they all clap while I emote.
>>334793187
how are you having trouble with wolnir
demon king is harder
Nameless King is certainly the hardest boss in all of the games.
Champion Gundyr, on the other hand, is by far the most *fun* boss in all of the games.
>>334789973
Laurence was harder than OoK.
>>334792897
I don't know man. I'm pretty sure some of them are full of shit. Abyss Watchers, Aldritch, and Dancer all took me 2 tries. Actually, Dancer was technically 1, since I had just finished killing Yhorm on my first try and only had 2 estus left, and I still managed to get her to 40% health. Also I did Aldritch before yhorm, so there was no way I was overleved for that, in fact I might have been a bit underleveled for it. He still went down likea bitch.
Meanwhile the champ tore my asshole apart, Nameless might be the hardest boss in the series for, counting Bloodborne+DLC, and Pontiff was the first boss to give me more than 5 deaths. I also died a bit on Lothric and Lorian, but that was my fault since I kept getting impatient, since Lorian has no fucking health and I got too greedy.I think they're the one of the best bosses of the game, and perhaps the entire series
>First time on O&S
>Go in unprepared, just seeing what the fight's about before a proper attempt
>Focus on Smough
>Take him down, see Ornstein power up
>Die
>Go again
>Attack them both equally, both on their last legs
>Take out Ornstein
>Smough powers up
>Full health bar
Fucking bullshit. It was easy enough anyway but still bullshit.
>>334793224
I'll find out how easy he is with Pyromancy in my second play through soon enough.
If every other boss up to Dragonslayer Armour is anything to go by, then probably too easy.
>>334793187
I sincerely hope you don't actually need a summon for that fight.
>>334793214
I wasn't even exaggerating. That's how easy dancer was. I mean it's not like Dragonslayer armor was hard, but I have trouble believing people actually had more trouble with her. Then again it's most likely different playstyles. Like I said, I didn't upgrade stamina at all, and went for a tank strength build, with a greatshield and a shitload of vigor. So maybe Dancer was just easy for my playstyle, while Dragonslayer was a bit harder.
>>334793224
He wouldn't have had any more trouble with a big weapon. He used Drang Hammers so he was dodging everything, a big weapon probably wouldn't change this.
like most bosses in soul games, they are only hard because of 1 v 2
just dodge for like 3 minutes, then maybe you'll get a hit it when they both arent attacking.
I somehow beat this, it took me like over 15 minutes.
>>334793487
I see. Then you're absolutely right on the different builds thing. Also, I haven't upgraded stamina either, feels like I should just stack fuckloads of health this time around.
>>334792353
>the fucking 2 croc dogs in Aldrich's fuck pool are harder
I can't lure Ornstein out with a bow will Smough is busy being a fat cunt.
I also can't two shot either of them with level equivalent pyromancy.
>>334793276
>>334793381
Just curious I like to see who pops up for the fights, only tried him once blind and I had no idea what to expect, got crushed trying to get to his side. I cheesed Demon King with my bow, just ran around and took shots when he stopped.
>>334793489
it would. If you wield something like a great club you'll smashed before you can recover from the animation of your own attack
>>334793764
>I cheesed Demon King with my bow, just ran around and took shots when he stopped.
Jesus christ. Why would you even do that, he's not even hard, just pretty average once you get his moves down. I'm don't even care that you cheesed him, but I can't imagine how long it took and how boring it was.
>>334790057
>Pontiff
yes.
>Champion Gundyr
nope, very obvious combos and it's just a circle arena.
>Dragonarmor
literally the easiest boss in DaS3
>Nameless King
about on par.
> Champion Gundyr pretty much boils down to luck due to his unpredictable attack patterns.
is this a joke?
He was predictable as fuck, sure he can juggle you but the first attack of that combo is easy to avoid.
>>334793894
Only took about 15 minutes, I only tried him once before that. If you have the space why not?
Am I to understand there is no NPC for the Wolnir fight? Was hoping that Tsorig or whatever his name was would show up.
>>334792554
Wet nurse is fucked sometimes. Her clone mode is pretty random
>>334789920
Fighting for the first time they still were the most challenging one
Something like Smelters are still pain in the ass every time
>>334792057
Smoff.
Like Gough and Hough.
>>334793224
I beat him with my claymore you mong.
There is no easy or hard in dark souls, it's how long you take. It's either a fight that takes 2 minutes or one that could take 10.
And i ususally learned the pattern of the enemy and then charged R2 when ever i could, shit was cash.
Seriously git gud
>try to play dark souls 3
>dont have fun
did I just burn myself out on 3 souls games (Demon, dark, dark 2)
:(
>>334793894
>>334794028
Demon King felt very similar to Demon Firesage and Smelter Demon, I don't see why you would need to cheese him.
If you had fun doing it, good for you though.
>>334792897
Some people just have lucky/unlucky runs and usual playstyles that make it differ.
I found abyss watchers hard but not too much so, but not easy. Loved the fight.
Aldrich I almost 1 shot just running straight at him and swinging my first time going in. That's kind of the strategy yiu need though so eh.
Pontiff is my favorite souls boss, fight was harder then anything previous to me.
The boss I still haven't beat yet though that everyone doesn't even out in the top quarter of their list, is SoC. Fuck that guy.
>>334790471
>Pontiff is top tier hard
I want this meme to end. I beat him with a Greatsword and used 3 estus
His first phase is trivial with a shield. He literally cannot hit you if you stay near his left at all times. He's so tall all his attacks just fail. When the second phase reaches just attack his as much as possible while he's creating a clone. He doesn't move nor does he attack. By the time you finish your attacks his clone will be still born.
>>334793224
I killed him with the Fume Ultra Greatsword.
the hardest enemy of any souls game is the rolling fatty from Bloodborne, literally a hacker on steroid. O&S was hard only because it was many people's first souls game. Similarly if you played DeS first Maneaters probably gave you more trouble.
>>334794134
Yeah. I only finished dark souls 1 recently and already own dark souls 2. But have absolutely no will to play through it. It's like you can only play 1 souls game every 2-3 years.
>>334794197
>His first phase is trivial with a shield.
most people don't use shields.
>>334794285
Then people should use it and stop complaining that it's hard. It's a mechanic in the game that's there to help you. Swallow your pride and use a fucking shield for this fight if you're having trouble.
>>334793316
Fucking aldrich is too random. One time, he used arrows and startrd shooting spheres like machinegun- 5 in a row and killed me. Next time he used arrows only once, 2 random spheres, but started fighting melee making battle easy mode
>>334794154
Didn't need to, wanted to see if I could. And I did.
>>334790814
>>334794197
This.
Tell your friends, pontiff is ez if you use your head and just hug his ass like asylum demon
>>334794384
I would but I already past him.
The thing you have to remember is the previous games lead people to not use shields, because rolling was more effective and let you use better armor and weapons.
Dark Souls 3 undermines this expectation by making a lot of bosses use longer strings of attacks to fuck with rollers.
It's similar to how in DaS2 enemies would have strategies in place to fuck with backstabbers.
Beat them on my 3rd try. Seriously, I didn't know it at the time but apparently getting Dark Knight Sword makes the game a lot easier?
>>334794506
>I didn't know it at the time but apparently getting Dark Knight Sword makes the game a lot easier?
Any fast attacking sword. I'm now using executioner greatsword. Needs just as much stamina as the dark knight sword while being about 90+ dmg stronger
>>334790231
Tbh I just stood between the two "tailish" outenings of Ebrietas and whacked away.
>>334794501
The thing is that a shield is even less desireable in DaS3 than the older games. However there are some boss fights like pontiff whose attacks really don't take much stamina while blocking. You can still dodge but you'll be mashing that dodge button like crazy. Meanwhile just holding a shield in the air will make you defend almost all of the attacks without effort
>>334789920
not even the hardest boss fight of that game. Maybe the best, but not the hardest
>>334794852
>The thing is that a shield is even less desireable in DaS3 than the older games.
are you sure?
In previous games, not only would a shield add to your weight but two handing a weapon would let you use more powerful requirement weapons and do more damage.
In DaS3 you can't use high requirement weapons by two-handing, and the damage bonus on two handing isn't as high either.
>>334793381
>>334793276
Gave up looking and just killed him, easiest fight so far by a massive margin. Raw Claymore +5 tore through him.
>>334794501
>The thing you have to remember is the previous games lead people to not use shields
DaS1 and 2 were trivialized by shields, barring some exceptional bosses like smelter and gwyn. A 100% phys block shield was the go-to for scrubs.
I can only imagine you started with BB and played the souls games after because blocking is always easier than dodging
>>334794964
>are you sure?
That's my experience at least because enemies' combos take so long they eventually break your defense. Constantly rolling away is almost mandatory
Why does everyone say that the Smelter demon was so hard? Sure, I died a couple times, but pretty much every other boss in the DLC kicked my ass way more than him.
>>334795049
no I started with Dark Souls 1 and my first build ever was a great shield STR character.
I have never played BB.
Shields just seemed like a stamina drain that lowered my attack output, so when my second DaS1 character was a DEX build I found it easy as fuck.
Hey guy how do i find fume sword
>>334791097
the comments that pop up sound like such fucking pricks
as if they all beat it on their first try with no effort
>>334795109
The only way I managed to beat him was by tanking all his damage and ended the fight with 0 estus
>>334795109
Because with actually hard bosses people need to grow their e-peen so they lie and say how easy it was and they never die ever fighting it, but feel less inclined to on easier bosses.
>>334795109
Smelter wasn't hard, it was the "shockwave" thing that pissed people off.
Similarly Dancer in DaS3 isn't too hard but her grab attack has a bad hitbox, so if you didn't level your health stat you can be killed in one hit just because the hitbox is way too big for the animation.
>>334794964
>you can't use high requirement weapons by two-handing
Yes you can
>>334789973
This guy fucking reamed me until I got extremely lucky with parrying him in his 2nd phase and got a ton of good viscerals.
>>334795268
hasn't worked for me.
for example I'm doing my second character now and I got the uchi, I had 10 STR and I needed to level to 11 STR to two hand the uchi, which has an 11 STR requirement.
>>334795180
>fume sword
Smouldering Lake beneath the stairs that lead to a black knight and the path to the ballista. You have to fight an NPC. Spear made the fight very easy. He can one shot you.
>>334790057
I just beat Pontiff on my 2nd try and I'm really bad at souls games. I died more to the tree boss thing.
>>334795180
It's in the demon shithole down a corridor between the basilisk room and a large flight of stairs. Expect to meet an old friend ;^)))))))
>>334793316
it really depends on build and stuff
Dancer and Sully murder people making heavy use of medium shields due to all the stamina damage along with chip damage. Dancer also has some pretty nasty regular combos (not the twirly move though) that can fuck up people not used to dodging. So if you MO is a medium shield to tank, and dodging the large powerful moves you are going to get fucked up
A lot of people seem to have trouble with Aldritch, Old Demon King and Crystal Sage, even though I found them piss easy. They're more about being able to effectively move without lock on and keep and eye on everything that's going. I reckon a lot of people try to stick close and fight them, when really you should be running around like headless chicken baiting out attacks and getting behind them (or killing clones in the case of Sage).
The Champ was a refreshing breath of air to me since he did do chip damage and I had a high stab medium shield. It felt like fighting Artorias again where I could tank quite a few things and only had to dodge specific combos (until i picked up his patterns and started full time dodging).
The short of it is different people have different builds and play styles, and each bosses ends up testing them in different ways.
>>334790236
Orphan of Kos, Fume Knight, Manus and Chalice Dungeon's Abhorrent Beast all gave me a run for my money.
>>334791772
>Manus
It's just one guy
>>334795363
Well, It literally says "Unable to use this item effectively with present attributes, unless wielded with both hands." when you equip a weapon with STR req <1.5x your STR.
Did you not meet the DEX requiremtents? Two-handing does nothing for dex.
>>334793946
>Dragonarmor easiest
Is he as easy as that giant?
>>334795578
>Did you not meet the DEX requiremtents? Two-handing does nothing for dex.
I had enough DEX.
>>334795603
There aren't any giant bosses, unless you mean Yhorm.
In that case, yeah Yhorm with the stormbreaker is easiest.
Dragonarmor would be a close second.
>>334795512
Just one guy who's faster, more aggressive, has larger reach, and higher damage output than O+S combined.
>>334789986
You can if you just use a Greatshield with decent magic resist since he turns almost all of his damage into magic damage once he powers his sword up.
That and you can become quasi invulnerable to magic damage anyway with GMB + some choice other buffs and equipment since Blue Smelter is pretty lategame.
That said O&S is mostly just hard because the camera hardly cooperates in a jolly fashion and because Ornstein has that really weird charge.
>>334795512
yeah, but biggie and smalls we're reasonably easy to kite around them room. Pikachu's rush attack also made it very easy to separate him from Snorlax, so you could get a few hits in. Once you go into phase 2 it's comparatively easy, regardless of who you kill first.
Manus on the other hand has some brutal combos (that six attack hit) as well as dark magic that can catch a lot of people off guard, and 1 shot players even with high health
>>334795656
Yes, I meant Yhorm. I'm still stuck on that wolf like boss (forgot his name) so I can't really say if Dragonarmor is as easy as everyone says it is.
>>334789920
I don't understand why this boss fight is so popular when it comes to the whole "Dark Souls is hard" thing....I died way more to the bullshit that was the Bed of Chaos than I did to these guys.
O&S are a joke.
The only difficult bosses in the history of "soulsborne" is Defiled Firedog, Phase 1 Ludwig, and Fume Knight, and Lud & Zallen.
Haven't fought the DaS3 bosses enough to rate them yet.
>>334795875
>wolf like boss
Oceiros?
>>334795656
Well, unless you've got some special version of the game that's programmed wrong you're fucking up somehow because two-handing STR boost is in.
>>334795970
this is super weird, I swear I had an X over the uchi when I tried two handing it at STR 10.
>>334789920
Why is Smough 20 feet tall in this pic?
>>334794197
>shield
I stopped there.
The Maneaters were harder
Manus was harder
Fume Knight was harder
Orphan of Kos and Ludwig were WAY harder
>>334796038
because he's literally a giant?
>>334795941
Yes that's him. I'm having a pretty tough time with him.
>>334796132
yeah he was the hardest boss in the entire game for me, but also the most satisfying because he didn't have gimmicks.
Just keep on his toes, when he gets to second phase try to roll his quick dash attacks and hit him in the ass.
You should get the patterns soon enough.
It felt like an endurance match for me, try not to get greedy and keep your cool.
>>334796128
He's only a couple of feet taller than Ornstein in the actual game. He's slightly taller than his stage 2 version in OP's pic.
>>334796221
Alright thanks, I've mainly stuck to the guys dick. That's the easiest spot to him for me. (no homo)
>>334793778
Great club is the worst example you could possible use, it has an amazing rolling attack.
>>334792987
What the fuck're you talking about? It's a lullaby. It's not all that cheery, but harrowing? What do fucking imbeciles like you think to gain by pretending they're fragile and that things like this are more disturbing than they truly are?
You screwed the fight up for other reasons.
>>334790471
The entire trick to Aldrich is knowing how to move so that you avoid all of the tiny magic orbs, and hoping he doesn't shoot the giant magic missiles at you while you're running from arrows.
>>334789920
It's not really hard if it's just artificial difficulty
>>334794852
From memory pontiff would still stamina break me in two hits (had ~20 end and a 62 stability shield) and he'd do poke damage because fire anyway, rolling is way better in basically any situation that isn't blocking ranged shit
>>334796597
>le nothing effects me emotionally jaded gamer maymay
If you can't immerse yourself I honestly pity you.
>>334796747
LOwer your shield between attacks.
>>334796803
Dark souls 3 incentivises that even less since there is actual travel time on bringing shields up. I know how fucking stamina regen works.Although I somehow retardedly missed the cloranthy ring my first playthrough so that may have played more into shields being absolutely worthless, if the stone parma could parry it would've actually been useful though since I could take the first his and parry the second
>>334796750
Yeah, because not thinking a lullaby is harrowing means I didn't appreciate it for being appropriate.
>>334790471
Champ is like 20x harder than Aldrich, are you retarded?
>>334790471
>Nameless king is artifically hard due to its camera.
Stop being a shitter who locks on 100% of the time.
What's the best single-slot pyromancy?
How do I git gud at pvp? I decided to blow through my cracked red orbs for giggles.
First fight was host and sunbro. I found the sunbro laying down beneath some stairs, perfect chance to get a cheap shot in but I had the decency not too for some fucking reason and just got gangbanged.
Second attempt was 1v1, really felt like I had the upper hand, tried to parry with a (stance) shield. GG me.
3rd try was again host and sunbro, host lived with 1hp, just got salty and quit for the night.
Also this is the first souls game I've really ever attempted pvp in.
>>334790057
Nothing in DaS3 is hard.
>>334789973
>single boss
>hard
clearly you don't get dark souls. Difficulty is achieved by giving multiple enemies, since the bad targeting and slow animations make it difficult to fight more than one enemy at a time.
Any single enemy is trivial; just dodge its attacks and strike back in between.
>>334795893
it's slightly harder to back stab the boss ad nauseum because there's two of them
>>334791569
>bloodborne
>different builds
Liar :^)
>>334797574
Nah. My first was just a generic strength. Used Ludwig's most of the game.
Next was arcane, it was by far the "Hardest" (Not hard at all but more weak than the others by a long shot), but it picked up into silly levels with postgame/chalice gems.
After that I did the hiltless(?) build. More or less pure blood, a little skill, and exclusively using the self-damage sword from Logarius' area.
After that, did the ol' aristocrat no leveling run. That wasn't actually bad.
Why is everyone calling Pontiff hard?
Dancer is about 60 times harder
I love these "Which boss was harder?" threads, because everyone's so determined to guard their e-peen, anytime anyone mentions a singular boss, someone else has to mention how it was easier than your mum in a crowd, so we're all stuck in an infinite "No YOU suck!" loop
O&S are the best bossfight and the best experience but not the hardest.
Blue Smelter, Lud/Zallen are harder. Artorias too.
>tfw cheesed nameless king with crystal soul spear on my 3rd character
he was such a struggle on my melee characters, with this it was a fucking joke (still had to do first phase the normal way, but on second just chug ash estus and cast shit)
>>334799523
>Artorias harder than O&S
Just not true man.
>>334789920
I had a Halberd +10 on my first playthrough. It destroyed Smough in just a few hits and super Ornstein is extremely easy to dodge
>>334800926
Yeah, I needed more tries at Artorias though. generally, the DLC bosses is where most shields won't work anymore and you are forced to learn rolling
beat O&S on my first go without solaire or looking up the fight. first souls game too. literally get good.
all you have to do is keep your distance and study attack patterns before you attack, it's not hard
>>334801681
>get good
>play hyper-defensively like a little bitch
>>334801001
Nah, you can use shields with high stability.
>>334790235
>using pyromancy or summons
I pity the experience you missed
>>334789973
>Orphan of Kos
>Hard
When will this meme end?
>>334789973
>gooey skeleton with a meatstick
OUT-FUCKING-STANDING
SO SPOOKY
WHAT WILL THEY THINK OF NEXT?
WHAT SHIT WILL THE DRONES CONTINUE TO BUY IN DROVES?
>>334803345
xD my friend
Upvoted ;^)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olCV1iW_kzE
Kalameet is harder
>>334803156
Use in game summons and.pyro.
Fight me bro. If its in the base game its fair game.faggot.
>>334791484
>3x manticores
>>334803848
>can't block wow
>it's unblockable
sometime I believe he is trolling us. Always entertaining nonetheless
>>334803345
You seem upset.
