What do yall think of this game?
polished interesting game with a good setting and good humor ruined by shit guns, shit gun availability and slow combat. its only worth the $15 if youre the kind of autist who likes to grind on the same rooms for minimal rewards
>>334787087
This pretty much
I found myself not wanting to play after a while because you never found a gun that could do much against the boss fights bar BS luck. The combat against the bosses was slow due to them having near random bullet paterns sometimes, and such high health. Couple that with how health is to find in that game you have an interesting concept but poor execution.
Close to killing my first past, just need to beat the Dragun again.
Loving the game, perfect for after work zoning out. Co-op is pretty damn fun as well, shame about local only, and the fact that the cultist's starting gun fucking sucks.
>>334786607
I like it quite a bit. Just killed the Dragun earlier today, the Disintegrator is so fucking strong. I still would have beat him without it, but it certainly was a help.
>>334787520
>>334787087
You two sound like you need to get good. Regardless of your own shitty luck, you should be able to beat any floor 1 boss with just your regular starting weapons, and the only reason you should have problems with a floor 2 boss is if you STILL only have your starting pistol by the time you get to it.
>>334788243
Forgot my image.
Gotta get the Lead from the hollow still, then I can kill my past.
Do you have to make a new bullet each time you go to kill your past?
>>334788315
no you just talk to the blacksmith and you get it
FOTM
>>334788315
You need to go to the blacksmith and ask for the bullet, she'll give it to you every time. No need to bring the items again.
>>334788485
>>334788454
Thanks, just checking to be sure. Don't want to have to go through the bullshit of spending so much money on the primer, then wasting my active slot for the powder.
I still can't get over how stupidly powerful the Disintegrator was, it killed everything in at least two to four seconds of constant fire, even those obnoxious as fuck Shelletons and the Revolvenants
>>334788625
There's a couple of guns that really skew the game in your favor. before the patch that made it rare as fuck, getting a fightsaber was basically an auto-perfect for any boss.
Disintegrator is great, but that charge up time is a bitch to a roll spammer like me.
I just got to the dragun with my favorite character (marine). I was blessed with the blank table flip which saved me from shitty rooms and the M1 which carried my ass through my first encounter with the tank and the door without losing any health. The Dragun was two shots away from dying when I died but I'm not mad, it was my first time on floor 4 & 5 and now I know these weird items I've met before are for the gunsmith. One question though: I've noticed she's working on a gun that looks exactly like the unfinished gun, can she do anything with it?
Sorry for no replys from me(op) i was playing a run. I just got the M1 and had my best run yet and got the prime primer. I love this game so much.
>>334788746
Fightsaber completely breaks the Wallmonger and Kill Pillars fights, you just reflect back some of their bullet patterns and it totally ruins the fight.
I fucking hate the Pillars, so I didn't even care about cheesing them with it.
The Stinger also is amazing, that thing was a huge bonus during my fight with the Old King.
Too bad the blink bandana kind of sucks.
This game is as good as it is right now and will only get better with time with additional DLCs, just like Isaac.
>>334789004
you do realize it can take you anywhere on screen, right?
>>334789101
Yeah, it's still harder to use than the regular roll, and not as convenient.
>>334786607
Great game. Tons of guns, good art, challenging, and more skill based than other roguelikes.
>>334789072
I'd prefer free updates with content, Fatmund McMuffin is kind of a huge fucking jew with his DLC.
It depends on how much they add, and for how long this game gets support.
Also I want to see more Worms reference weapons.
>>334786607
good game that is hated by salty BoI fags that can't git gud
>>334788243
>Raises legitimate complaints unrelated to difficulty
>Git gud
You're a faggot
First reply nailed it. Items are boring, synergies are shit, pacing is atrocious. Seems fun for the first few hours but gets tedious very quickly
I cant git gud enough. So far im getting that Blanks are super useful, if youre on a boss and there is a tricky dodge, its better to use the blank than risk it, because perfecting bosses is core to successful runs.
But im not making any kind of solid progress.
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/HI7Pox0.png "latest[1].png")
>>334789338
I'd love to see some classic Ratchet & Clank weapons
>>334789497
Too bad the dev will never add guns that are fun or feel stronger than your starting pistol.
>>334786607
Most of the criticism you will see about this game is bland pasta from Nuclear Throne and Isaac losers that wanted a copy of their game and can't git gud.
The game has its flaws but they aren't what most of the salty memesters will list.
>>334789474
You didn't even read the rest of my post. I explained that they should become proficient with their starting weapons in order to better deal with a bad hand of RNG they get dealt.
All the bosses are capable of being killed without taking a hit, it's just a matter of patience. Sure, the Pilot's gun fucking sucks, but everyone else at least has ok weapons to work with at the start. The Crossbow is excellent, one shots most basic enemies up to the 2nd floor, the sawn off is great for basically everything, and the marine pistol has a ton of shots before a reload.
There's only a few guns that are absolutely worthless, like the derringer.
I have a mate who used a godmode trainer to beat the game and get all achievements amd he gloats to me like I don't know what he did.
>>334789497
R+C has some pretty cool guns, could definitely work.
>>334789685
Call him a faggot or delete his save.
Game seemed fun for a few hours then got tedious but after I kept playing it, I started enjoying it more again once I started getting better at conserving ammo and realized I should never waste keys on brown chests.
>>334789685
Check his steam profile and compare the dates of all the achievements he used the Steam achievement manager so they'd all be at the exact same time
>>334786607
The most apt BoI clone. Suffers from the same pacing and RNG issues that BoI does, which doesn't look good in comparison to Nuclear Throne.
>>334789813
Brown chests are really almost never worth it, you can rarely get a good gun out of it like the Regular Shotgun, but most of the time you're better off shooting it open, or using the Pilot's lockpick.
I've only used a key on them if I have no guns and it's the last thing on the floor before a boss.
Also are there any dual wielding weapons? I feel like that could make for an interesting mechanic in a sequel or significant update.
>>334789685
>request to spectate his run
>watch him die to gatling gull
>laugh
>>334789909
Nah he didnt do that. He just sucked at the game and always complained to me about it, then one night he got all the difficult achievements; lead god, 6th chamber, all pasts, gun game. All over the course of 4 playthroughs in only 3 hours. Like I believe that shit.
>>334790021
Gatling Gull is probably the hardest floor 1 boss, either him or the King. Sometimes the kind can shoot out that big bullet that explodes into a pattern, while doing his spin move at the same time, which can really fuck you up. I consider my first floor boss fights to be a loss if I get hit.
I think I found an exploit. But first, let me explain.
When you switch weapons, you can fire with that weapon immediately. So I bound swap weapons with Q. If I mash Q and click like crazy, you can unload a TON of bullets out extremely quickly. Of course once you run out of ammo, you will have to reload or something.
>>334790168
I don't think that's an exploit, you've always been able to shoot immediately on switching to a new gun.
I wish the revolvers hit harder in this game though, I fucking love a good revolver.
>>334789574
>Make a game about guns
>All the weapons are shit
In ten hours time the only guns i've seen worth anything were the M1 and stinger. Even Bsg feels pathetic given how powerful it's namesake is.
I wouldn't even mind if the weapons felt like they had punch, there's so little feedback or satisfaction in using most of the weapons
>>334790139
the king by far, when his attacks overlap it doesn't seem like there is much you can do other than blank.
>>334790251
Yes I know that, but I'm saying you can abuse this fact and do a lot of damage quickly at the cost of possibly hindered movement.
Also yes, I love smiley's and Shade's revolver, so satisfying to reload, SAA is SO good.
>>334789963
>RNG issues
Really? I found it way better RNG wise than BoI. I mean in gungeon the optimal way is to kill the first 2 bosses with your starter weapon and perfect them, which is pretty easy once you get the hang of it(except the bird, fuck the bird i always get hit).
And if you cant get any somewhat decent weapon in 3 full levels, then yea, something seriously went wrong.
>>334790276
probably b8 since bsg is insanely strong at clearing rooms, but there are very few shit guns.
>>334790276
I would like it if they cut all regular enemy HP in half or 1/3 and simply spawned more, but most of the guns certainly don't feel like shit.
>>334790340
Yeah, if you get basically any sort of shotgun or rapid fire SMG/machine gun, you can easily take down a floor 1 boss quickly. The winchester is especially good for this.
>>334790379
Derringer, nailgun, bow, gammaray, mac10, sawn-off shotgun, lower case r to name a few.
Love getting a weapon that looks powerful charges for 5 secs and takes 1% hp off a bosses lifebar
>>334790805
All of those can be found in a brown chest, can't they?
Also the gamma ray isn't for direct damage, it's for giving people AIDS. Sawn-off is a starting gun so it can't be too powerful, and the lowercase r is a joke gun.
>>334790340
>I mean in gungeon the optimal way is to kill the first 2 bosses with your starter weapon
That would be what I call a pacing problem.
>except the bird, fuck the bird
Bait the melee.
>>334790805
bow is really good, gamma ray is ok, sawn-off is useful
i'll give you lower case r, nailgun, and derringer though
wwwwwwoooooooooooooAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Friend of mine told me this was a shittier version of Nuclear Throne. Are the two even comparable?
>>334790987
>except the bird, fuck the bird
>Bait the melee.
Clearly hasn't played, or isn't playing on the current patch so opinion is invalid.
>>334791075
's alright.
>>334791075
fuck you win
>>334791075
Holy shit, not only is it a rainbow chest, every single one of those items are fucking excellent. The candy is especially good, as is the ring.
>>334791103
I'd say this game is better than Nuclear Throne, it's not as arcadey, there's a sense of progression, bosses are more fun, and you can't die instantly without any chance to recover.
I've played NT for quite a while and didn't enjoy it quite as much as Gungeon
>>334791236
>>334791251
>>334791291
And then I found a red chest and cigs, Help me. Dont let me die.
>>334791075
>played about 20 hours
>almost killed all pasts
>still haven't found a single one of these fuckers
>>334791103
I don't think it is anything ike NT, it is much more like Isaac except harder/more skill based/less rng based.
>>334791308
do cigarettes actually do anything useful?
>>334791416
Smoking them increases coolness and luck I believe.
>>334791416
they make you cooler
>>334791354
>played for 11 hours, found one of these
>died later in that run to a brown chest mimic spawned by a Blank statue
I got the fightsabre and the scrambler on the same run
The scrambler is insane
>>334791115
The opinion is based on the description of the game that's given to me, dipshit. Or are you telling me the whole starting arsenal and structure got revamped?
>>334791416
They also reduce the cooldown of active items, if used enough times you could get infinite free blanks with the Elder Blank item.
>>334791550
What's the scrambler do?
Also why does the magic revolver suck so much? The fact that polymorphed enemies drop no money sucks.
Please help me.
>>334791638
the magic revolver is literally top tier save that shit for the hollow/forge/bullet hell
>>334791913
I imagine it's great there, but I always fucking get it on the first or second floor where there's nothing that needs to be killed immediately.
>>334791803
Anon if you don't win this run you should probably give yourself a beating.
>>334792032
lead maidens, those multi stage totems, veteran kin, those bird guys that buff stuff
>>334792032
if you don't need the money i'd totally use it on annoying shit like lead maidens, mushroom guys, and those totem pole things. far better to lose out on a few shells than to take damage
>>334792225
>>334792139
Yeah, lead maidens are definitely the nastiest enemy on the 2nd floor. The totems are rarely ever a problem for me though.
>>334792081
The farthest i've ever gotten is like the high priest, the kill pillars, etc. The pillars just destroy me, and the high priest overwelms me eventually. Lets hope this boss is tolerable
>>334792314
ahhh how did you take so much damage?
>>334792541
Stuff happens. It's okay, I'm full now.
>>334792559
Is that motherfucking Earthworm Jim's gun?
>>334792630
It's called a Heck Blaster. I don't know, never played it.
>>334792630
Yeah, it's got a stupidly large magazine as well, I don't even think it needs to ever reload
>>334788243
>the game bores me because the guns are not fun to shoot
>even when i perform well the game is way too slow and i lose interest
>the solution is to get good
How does that follow? Their complaints hinge on them actually succeeding.
>>334792693
It does, and this just happened.
>>334792783
I need some serious help, I have no idea what weapon to even use. If I get hit while at full hp, it seems I fire out in random spurts, so I'm thinking of holding the stinger to hopefully get a lot of those off.
>>334786607
it's pretty boring and slowpaced
enemies are damage sponges
>>334792937
if you've got the ammo use the stinger here, especially if you aren't familiar with the bosses on that floor.
>>334792937
For the start of a fight, use the stinger a few times to stack BEES on someone, then I would switch to either the proton pack or AK47 and just unload on them.
Trident is good for dealing with groups, the Heck Gun is just good in general.
>>334793072
>>334793067
Oh my fuck the high priest got destroyed by the stinger. What the hell is beyond this?
>>334793101
you haven't been to the forge?
>>334793101
the end, you can do it anon, just don't get overwhelmed andmake sure to break the skull and take it back
Unlocked the bullet today, pretty damn fun to play as. as someone who has killed all pasts and the final boss, ask me anything
>>334793189
>>334793173
What the hell happened to my fps?
>>334793101
Alright anon, before you actually attempt the level, here is the NUMBER ONE tip.
If you see a huge, skeletal motherfucker with a black dress, KILL IT IMMEDIATELY. Also watch out for the hammers, they are annoying as shit and don't go away till the room is clear.
Oh and be ready for tons of enemies you haven't ever seen before
>>334793220
does bullet and robot have pasts?
>>334793291
nope, the forge lady will refuse to give you the bullet to kill the past because you don't have a past to kill
>>334793291
Not that guy, but they can't get the bullet to kill the past.
>>334793260
dunno never had any fps issues with this game
>>334793291
it would be cool if they added them in later
maybe the robot regrets being a murderbot or the bullet wants to prevent something gungeon related
>>334793376
Oh no. Everything is SO delayed. I can't play like this.. Ahhh fucking hell man. I'm so upset now.
>>334793361
well that's pretty shitty, bullet could have at least been a rebel fighting an old king or something and who the fuck knows about robot
hope they make a expansion patch or something
>>334793458
what sort of comp are you playing on?
>>334793473
perhaps they will, the devs have said if there's enough interest they might even work on adding online co op, so an expansion patch doesn't seem too farfetched
>>334793458
Do you have other programs running, like skype or something?
>>334786607
It's mediocre. Isaac and Spelunky are still my mainstay fuck-around games if I need to kill an hour.
Doesn't help that the Steam controller doesn't work well with it, so I can't get comfy.
>>334793458
I get the same thing with a beefy computer, happens at random. If you have a multi-monitor setup try turning off the other monitor. Otherwise you can fuck with the resolution settings.
>>334793458
from a dev:
>Make sure the game is using your discrete card!
>Lots of people reporting that their problems can be fixed by switching their laptop to their discrete card instead of integrated. You can do this by right-clicking the executable and doing "Run with graphics processor."
check steam page for known technical issues and try to fix it?
>>334793458
>change the res to the lowest possible, still fps crapping
>my reaction and specs when
MY ENTIRE COMPUTER IS LAGGING AT LIKE 5 FPS
>>334793618
>He's so bad that he has to use a controller
>Uses meme words like 'comfy'
Place yourself in the trash
>>334793637
ITS GETTING WORSE
>>334793743
>Fraps
There's your problem. Disable that shit
>>334793743
why the fuck are you running fraps
>>334793637
>svchost.exe 161,628 K
Worry.jpg
>>334793743
>>334793861
>>334793892
(It was off the entire time, I only turned it on to check the FPS.)
>Forced to close the game
>my actual reaction when
>I can never beat the game because of the forge
>I might as well not even play the game anymore because it will always lag.
>No point in even going if you cant get better to reach the end
This happened with new vegas. I hyped up Lonesome road so much, and then I got there, and I nearly cried because I had spent 100's of hours playing at 10-15 fps and now I can't even beat the game. I just stopped playing after that.
>>334793743
Fucking close fraps. Steam has a built in FPS counter you can enable in settings.
>>334793981
nigger why did you close the game
>>334794086
The FPS was getting lower, the game is unplayable at anything below 30 due to input lag. I was at LITERALLY 3 fps and nothing I could of done would of improved it, my graphics card was getting hotter and hotter and my pc was becoming like the game. 3 fps.
>>334786607
Seems interesting, but co-op is kind of lacking. For once, hearts are expensive as fuck and you have to acquire double the amount since there's two people that can get hurt but you guys share money. The fact that there's 5 characters to choose from, but the co-op character can only pick one designated character is pretty shitty, but his whole backup bonuses are pretty cool.
They need to make hearts a bit more common and then make them less common with difficulty settings like Isaac does. Either that or make things like hearts apply to both of the players. Maybe do the same with passives you buy as well.
>>334794215
Don't you get a free revive item at the start?
Also, having twice as much potential firepower is what balances out the lower number of HP items. Co-op was probably not their focus anyway when making this game, but if they flesh it out more it would be excellent
>>334793637
>>334793743
Problematic. Simply put, your computer is too old to run it.
>>334794465
Yeah. I know, with every game I play. I guess I just can't play anymore. I just get depressed because I can't play anything, even a simple game like this without hindering myself or problems and theres no way for me to get a new pc or upgrade it. So then all these people out there are playing stuff like DS3, Dragons dogma or whatever the hell and I can't even play a 2d top down shooter. I'm sorry. I'm just pissed off. /blog
Solid game, with some flaws:
One of my biggest complaints is that enemies should not do contact damage. Poor design philosophy when mixed with a dodge roll that encourages you to roll towards enemies.
Also that the lockpick works in a way that it is used exactly the opposite way that I would want it to work. (Last resort, rather than a chance to save a key) Fuck that noise.
>>334794621
Yeah I think the devs said something about looking into the lockpick, it definitely doesn't seem like a 50/50 chance to work/fail, plus locking you out of the chest kind of sucks.
Also there's an item that makes you take no contact damage, but yeah rolling into an enemy should just bounce you back or stop the roll before you are close enough to touch them
>>334794410
>Don't you get a free revive item at the start?
Only the co-op lacky.
>having twice as much potential firepower is what balances out the lower number of HP items
Not him but I disagree
>tfw beating the High Dragun for the first time, finishing the Bullet, and killing the first Past in one playthroughI was two casings away from the 300 casings + 6 keys for the shortcut, too
>>334794790
Dragun was really fucking cool, the animations for him pulling out all those different guns were great
>>334786607
played it for about an hour and got bored. Usually love these games but the beginning is just so boring and slow. All the guns are lame too
>>334789658
>I explained that they should become proficient with their starting weapons in order to better deal with a bad hand of RNG they get dealt.
>All the bosses are capable of being killed without taking a hit
yes and it's quite easy to do. But it's fucking boring.
>lol git gud faggt
get some fucking taste you retard.
>>334795780
For reals, why don't these retards realize that the first 5 to 10 minutes make or break your game.
>>334794410
Twice the firepower hardly means anything when you're both close to death by the time you get to a boss because you have to split the already lacking health that you acquire. If they're gonna shaft the players so much, at least make it so that they get revived automatically with half hp after a couple of minutes.
played 30mins so far and its alright. killed first boss.. doesn't seem like it does anything new, just rips off nuclear throne/isaac. id be hard pushed to think up a more generic game right now
>>334791634
>>334791470
>>334791447
>>334791416
Using cigarettes increases "coolness", which affects item cooldown time and chance for item drops on room clear.
Other items will increase coolness, like the ballot or shades' revolver.
>trying to make the bullet
>get to the Hollow for the planar lead
>spend 15+ minutes painstakingly spreading casings across the invisible floor to find a path across
>finally get the lead
>go fight the boss
>cursed wallmonger
