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Choose.
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>>334783785
Right has the better MC and better boys, but it also has Ken so it loses points. Right also has the better (mascot?/animal thing) character.

Left has the best girls though. (As in more attractive)
This is of course entirely my opinion.
Persona 3 has objectively the btter soundtrack though.
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4 has best girl Naoto.
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>>334784301
I know Ai is god tier but she doesn't quite outweigh Yukari, Mitsuru, Fuuka, Yuko, and Miss Toriumi
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>persona Q
>like P3 MC more, along with the boys (don't really care for the girls except for Yukari)
>like Kanji and Naoto a lot though
>won't see kanji and naoto dialogue if I go P3 side
suffering
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Easy.P3
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No question
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>>334784493
I don't even remember who Ai is, but Yukiko and Rise are way more attractive than Fuuka and Yukari.

Although Mitsuru and Toriumi are very attractive, I still rank the others higher.

P3MC is still the most attractive though.
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>>334783785
3 had the better atmosphere/story, 4 had the better characters/interactions.
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>>334784765
>I don't even remember who Ai is
>Yukiko and Rise are way more attractive than Fuuka and Yukari.
Those are some dumb opinions, more importantly though: best girl calculations include more than visual design.
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>>334784768
>4 had the better characters
Incorrect
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>>334783785
THANKS DOC
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>>334784301
I really do love the P3 ost. Never expected Meguro could tap into hiphop so well after all his techno/rocky soundtracks, but he pulled it of very well.
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This one.
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>>334785036
Goddammit
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>>334785130
>not P2EP
Look at this faggot
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>>334785236
>Fuck your ending: The Game
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The one with the most beautiful and perfect girl ever to grace existence

Rise Kujikawa
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The one and only.
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>>334784975
I did say it was entirely my opinion man.

>best girl calculations include more than visual design.
You can't really choose one definite best girl because people are going to be attracted to different personalities and body types anon, I just said what I thought.

Also the top greentext isn't an opinion.
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>>334784765
Fuuka is 1000X more attractive than any of those sluts
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>>334786246
Hey now. Don't be like that. I love Fuuka and she's the one for me, but every character has their own pros and cons. People are naturally going to find different qualities they want.
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>>334783785
3, it's more mature
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>>334783785
I like Persona 3 better. It appeals to me because it's intelligent, nihilistic and has a wicked sense of humor.
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>>334784768
Well she isn't a robot anymore, technically
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>>334783785
3, it wasn't mind numbing easy like 4
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>>334786362
Shut up you apologetic fuck
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>>334783785
I choose Fuuka
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Didn't even need to think about it
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>>334787480
Me too
Fuuka is such a sweetheart
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>>334785380
thats not

a princess
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>>334785380
I see you are also a man of refined taste
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Persona 4.

Even though I prefer the cast and story of 3 (overall) it had way too many fucking empty weeks of nothing happening and a lot of the systems were underdeveloped compared to 4.

Plus Tartarus is far worse than 4's dungeons, even though they're not very good either.

I just with Golden had brought back a non-gutted version of the Tactics system.
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Only thing better in P4 is the combat, and both games are pretty ass in that respect compared to mainline SMT games.

But seriously, to even compare the two in story is a fucking joke. P4 is lighthearted and fun, but it's shallow as fuck.

>P3: Story of a loner with no attachment to life who finds something/people to care about, enough to give his now meaningful life to protect them.
>P4: Scooby Doo date sim edition with the most one dimensional characters imaginable.
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P3 is currently getting a 10/10 movie series adaption if you haven't seen it yet. Parts 1-3 are out and subbed, 4 is the final one out on BD in August.
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Persona 4 is a very happy game. Persona 3 had fucking amazing atmosphere thanks to it's story slowly becoming darker starting from Shinjiro's death.

>Shinji dies
>Betrayed by their own Chairman and all the shit they've been doing has been pointless.
>Mitsuru's father dies.
>Chidori dies, Junpei gets traumatized.
>Ryoji comes out of nowhere and tells everyone that they're fucked.
>The fucking dorm music changes to depressing shit.
>Everyone is depressed as an old fuck who's lost everything wondering what the fuck happened.
>MC dies.

Like, fuck man.
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>>334791889
I like Persona 3 but Shinji's death was fucking stupid.

Let's look at normal character deaths in JRPGs:
>killed by a great external force, say walls closing in, to save friends in a heroic sacrifice
>killed by an extremely super strong boss or final boss in a cutscene

It's clearly stated that the Dark Hour enhances your physical capabilities which explains why the party can dole out and take so much punishment despite being high schoolers, and also why they get tired easily. Despite this Shinji dies to a SINGLE BULLET. Additionally, if it's that easy to kill, then why didn't Revolver Jesus just reload and shoot the rest of the party? In battle he's one of the weakest bosses in the game and shooting his gun is a normal attack. It's so fucking dumb
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>>334784768
3 has the better atmosphere, story AND characters

4 has a stupid story but somewhat good atmosphere if you like comfy, and the characters are great too. 3 is still better overall though.
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>>334792176
It wasn't a single bullet, he took one then Takaya aimed at Ken then fired twice. He got shot three times. And it was a revolver for fuck's sake.
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but they are both shit
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Persona 3 Social link tier list:

>GOD-TIER
S.E.E.S. Girls
Akinari / Sun
Chihiro / Justice

>GREAT TIER
Mutatsu / Tower
Tanaka / Devil
Maiko / Hanged Man
Yuko / Strength
Maya / Hermit
Fool

>OKAY TIER
Fat guy / Moon
Mamoru / Star
Bebe / Temperance
Pharos / Death
Keisuke / Fortune
Kaz / Chariot
Hideyoshi / Emperor

>KENJI TIER
Kenji / Magician
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>>334791889
>>Chidori dies, Junpei gets traumatized for life

Fixed it for you
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>>334792643
Whoops forgot Heirophant,
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>>334792643
>kenji sucks
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P3 had better social links and music

P4 had better everything else
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>slice of life vs tengen toppa gurren lagann

Easy choice
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>>334788861
Come on we know Femmc is a slut

10/10 game because you can play as one
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>>334784768
The only reason 4 characters feel more alive than 3, is because it had more voice acting. After going back to 3 you immediately notice the lack of voice acting in slink events.
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>>334783785
I enjoyed left more, I dropped P3 because of the lack of a proper story, and no, I don't count "go to this place and kill big shadows because we say so" a proper story. I wasn't drawn in by the characters either, none of them felt like friends and I didn't really care what happened to them, I dropped it after that guy got shot protecting the kid when I realized I gave zero fucks about anyone.
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P3
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>>334787480
>>334788673
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Persona 1. Take your dating sims somewhere else.
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>>334790414
>makes protag an unconfident yet snarky git with borderline depression
>skips over essentially every S.Link
>pushing Aigis as canon at the expense of Yukari and Mitsuru's scenes
>10/10 adaptation

No.
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>>334792643
I literally can't argue with this, besides MAYBE knocking Chihiro and Fuuka down one rank.

Great taste anon.
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>>334792643
Move Chihiro way down, move Mutatsu to God-tier and maybe Bebe too
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>>334790414
>P3 movies
>10/10 adaption
my sides. While I don't agree with this anon >>334802354 that the portrayal of MC sucks(I like him and I always pictured the P3 MC that way anyway) but there's so much shit in it that I would not reccomend it to anyone. The music is still 10/10 since most of it is straight from the game, but they skip S-links, they push Aigis like they pushed Marie in the shitty Golden anime while almost ignoring the other girls. I don't think Mitsuru have had a single fucking scene alone with MC.
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>>334783785
Persona 4 is just a straight rehash of Persona 3 minus the atmosphere that made 3 endearing.
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>>334783785
Well let me say this, if i had to choose to replay a game it would be P4.

I only enjoyed P3 when the boss of the month was over and that would take a while to get to again.
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4 is the more enjoyable game to play, 3 is the better game.

So 4.
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4 is more popular so everyone here is going to say 3.
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P4 > IS > FES > EP > P1 >>> P3P
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Any sane person would pick the superior game
P3 all the way
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Characters from 3 felt soulless at times. 4 had more personality, but the story came off as corny and childish at times.

Let's hope 5 crushes both.
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>>334792643
>Maya
>not in elder god tier
End youself faggot
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>>334784768
>4 had better characters
4's characters were literally one-dimensional MC-sexual cardboard cutouts.
3's characters had SLIGHTLY more depth. They were still shit, but at least they didn't all instantly love 3's MC from the very second he entered the picture.
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>>334802061
P1 gives you the option to choose between Maki and Elly, has repeated references to Maki's tits throughout and forces you to cuck your friend, with the only canon romance in the series for MC's.
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>P4
Everyone wants your dick from the first second they lay eyes on you
>P3
You must actually do stuff to get people to like you
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>>334806348
The characters in P4 had very good and obvious reasons for becoming friends with the MC.

I guess IS and shit characters as well? You know, since they all love Tatsuya, he's the most popular guy in school and can become best friends (and a lover) to some kid he hasn't seen in years, whom has spent the entire game trying to abuse and kill him.
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>>334806561
>You know, since they all love Tatsuya, he's the most popular guy in school
Have you even played the game?
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>>334806412
>You must actually do stuff to get people to like you
You don't do shit, what are you on about? Your party members in P3 don't get along with each other, then they are suddenly great friends by the end - without you doing shit. At least your party members actually had reasons to be friends with you in P4.
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>>334806561
Sorry, have you even PLAYED P2?
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>Picking either one of these casual weeb pandering shit with poorly written characters and generic anine plot

I'll take P2 any day
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>>334806639
Obviously. He's the most popular guy in school, and has girls swooning over him. The party members feel drawn to each other but for some reason act like best friends. Turns out they actually were best friends years ago. This leaves you wondering why Jun and the others get on so well with each other afterwards, considering they haven't seen each other in years.

Have you even played the game? I've also played P1 and EP.
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>>334806643
>At least your party members actually had reasons to be friends with you in P4.
Like what
In P3 they had to stay together to save the everyone.
They started off as strangers because they had to stay together.
And as Big Nose and Elizabeth said: The ordeals will make them closer
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>>334806808
umhhhhhhhhh
I don't think you get P2 anon.
I would highly recommend you replay it
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>>334806658
It's sad P2fags have to resort to asking if you've played their precious game.

I wasn't even insulting P2, I was pointing out how stupid the guys argument was in favour of P3.
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>>334806907
I wasn't bashing you for saying something about the game.
The reason is that you OBVIOUSLY haven't played the game or you might be retarded
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>>334806619
So persona 4
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>>334807058
Yea but with better pacing and characters
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>>334806619
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>>334806826
Yu goes to Inaba. Sits beside Chie who is friends with Yukiko and Yosuke. They all stick together with the MC and subsequently become his friend. They are the only people Teddie has ever met and they have promised to help him, subsequently becoming friends. Yukiko knew Kanji when they were younger, he has no other friends and joins them to help track down his kidnapper. Rise has just moved to the town having not lived there for years, joins to help and subsequently becomes their friend. Naoto is a loner who nobody likes, when she knows what the IT are doing she tries to help them, when she's kidnapped and rescued she joins them and subsequently becomes their friend.

How does that not make sense? Being grateful for being rescued and being outcasts coming together is more than enough reason for them becoming friends.

>>334806898
What have I not got? Are you saying the cast of IS didn't act like friends throughout the game? They become fiends with Eikichi immediately after they get their Persona's, Maya shows up and they're immediately friends. Jun shows up and they all become best friends. It wasn't entirely his fault or anything, but they become friends far too fast with him.
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>>334789258
>Plus Tartarus is far worse than 4's dungeons, even though they're not very good either.
Bullshit, P4 dungeons are literally Tartarus cut up piece meal and spread out across the game as "story dungeons", it just has a lick of paint applied to it to pretty it up.

At least Tartarus is more compact, easier to go up, can send party members to explore, and most importantly you get rewarded with story missions, where-as in 4 you just reach what is essentially a boss floor on Tartarus and then some story happens. No genuinely unique dungeons, just gimmicks and a theme.
If you hate Tartarus you should hate P4 dungeons even more because they're the same shit just dressed up differently, except you get JUST that same shit rather than it being a split off dungeon from story missions which have their own small "dungeons" that are genuinely different.
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>>334807386
>Being grateful for being rescued and being outcasts coming together is more than enough reason for them becoming friends.
Exactly, so why is it weird that P3 cast becomes friends?
Are all P4 fags so arrogant?
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>play P4
>like it so start playing P3
>P3 feels like a sequel
Why did they cut so much stuff for P4?
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>>334806753
>Picking a game with decent story/characters but garbage gameplay.

nah sempai
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>>334784768
3 had the best story and characters, 4 had the best gameplay and social links

atmosphere is arguable as they're polar opposites
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>>334808090
?

they just removed obnoxious mechanics like getting tired and not being able to control your party, it improved on fucking everything gameplay wise
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>>334808261
>4 had the best gameplay
How? Being able to control all party members is literally the only improvement and P3P fixed that.
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>>334808261
This
Overall i liked P3 the best because i care about story the most.
But in P4 you had to play on hard to even get a challenge
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>>334808407
tartarus is a fucking chore, the dungeons in p4 were a lot better

better, not good
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>>334807623
Exactly? You certainly weren't saying that earlier.

The P3 cast didn't get along with each other (they had their own groups within the SEES obviously) throughout the game like friends. Towards the end they did become friends, most likely after dealing with their betrayal, death of a colleagues and facing certain death themselves.

You're going to have to remind me when I said anything negative about the P3 cast becoming friends. I was pointing out your argument against the P4 cast being friends is stupid.
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>>334808361
>the 3d environment is more cohesive linked together in 3
>3 has deeper social link system, people don't just suck your dick
>the status system was a good idea just could have been implemented better, was just flat-out cut instead
>3 had unique scenarios ala the train, the hotel, instead of just diving into similar dungeons with a different theme and that's it
>party members have more commands outside of battle
what are all these huge improvements in 4?
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>>334808361
>fusion spells
Gone

>multiple weapons
Gone

>weapon fusion
Gone

>three phys
Gone

>heart items
Gone
>shock, freeze and charm
All gone

>half crits
Gone

You must be blind to miss all this
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>>334808090
>Play P3
>Like it so start playing EP
>EP feels like a sequel

Works for every game in the series, other than EP. IS feels downgraded from P1 in many regards, EP had more content than IS. Both P3 and P4 have added and taken away stuff from the pervious games.
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>>334808925
>half crits

what?
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>>334808361
you what
gameplay wise maybe in being able to control your teammates but they removed depth by changing all three physical damage types into one
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>>334808925
I literally never used any of those except for the fusion party heal at low level

I don't know, it just felt a lot better to play
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>>334808512
Tartarus is a fucking chore but not P4 dungeons? What?
P4 dungeons are not only bigger, but they have shitty layouts and horrible draw distance.
Also the entirety of P4 is basically Tartarus, P3 actually has combat outside of Tartarus.
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>>334808963
Those attacks with a normal weapon thart were like two hits instead of one, but not a full crit
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>>334783785
The only thing P4 has over P3 is being able to control everyone in the party.

P3 is better in literally every other way.
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>>334809012
>I literally never used any of those
So? I did, and it's still cut content that they took out of P4 for no reason
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>>334802354
wow, its almost like they can't fit it all into four 1 and a half hour movies...interesting.
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>>334809020
p4 dungeons have actual mechanics to them rather than being massive boring gauntlets of enemies with a miniboss once every 20 floors like tartarus

>P4 dungeons are bigger
doubt it
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>>334809012
>I don't know, it just felt a lot better to play
>IT JUST DONT FEEEL RIGHT
>GAME FEEL
P4fags in a nutshell, they can't actually analyze the games because then they'd realize that objectively P4 isn't as amazing as they think it is.
It's all about "muh feels".
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>>334783785
I asked a question, you're deflecting it towards me because you're fucking weak. It doesn't matter how much you work or go to school and it never will, you were born weak and you will die weak. Me, I had a period of my life I fell off, yeah. But I'm taking control. You know why? Because I can. I can surprass you with no fucking effort. Just because I chose to live the way I have doesn't mean I'm stuck there forever. I made those choices and I'm making the choice to stop letting other people run away with whatever illusion of power I've instilled upon them. I am greater than you and always will be. So don't come at me sideways thinking you're fucking sweet or something. Taking shots cause I'm in Florida when you couldn't say a word to me when I was home. It is my concern and it will be my concern. Fall Back.
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>>334809012
>but it FEELS better

Fuck off
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>>334808809
You said: "Atleast P4 cast had a reason for becoming friends"
You implied that P3 cast didn't
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>>334783785
>a shitty Scooby-Doo ripoff vs an SMT-esque game

P4 is cool but is nothing against P3,there's a reason why /a/ loves P4 and /v/ loves P3, P4's MC is easier to self insert and being love by literally everyone without doing any effort whatsoever.
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>>334809223
I choose this crew instead
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>>334809164
>actual mechanics
You mean gimmicks? P3 story missions has those too.
>massive boring gauntlets of enemies with a miniboss once every 20 floors
That's literally all P4 dungeons are. Except the boss is the story mission, so no interesting scenarios, just a prettied up Tartarus.

P4 dungeons are bigger because Tartarus blocks are compact, you can go up floors in Tartarus like nothing.
In P4 the floors are bigger and longer pathways, going up floors takes longer.
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>>334809624
>REEEEEEEE P3 IS SHIT MUH GAME FEEEL
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>>334809624
suck my dick kike
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>>334783785
Persona 3 is boring as fuck and tried way too hard to be edgy. Bland, forgettable antagonists, unlikable bitches (Yukari, Fuuka, Ken, etc.). Party members that barely had any character development (Koromaru, Shinji, Ken). Only fedora wearing nostalgiafags will defend Persona 3.

Persona 4 is a fun game with genuinely likable characters (which is why people love it more than Persona 3). Better antagonists, better gameplay (not saying much but still), overall just a more memorable and entertaining game. All the P3 hipsters will remain eternally butthurt about P4's superiority and success. And that's hilarious.
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>>334783785
4 gameplay absolutely destroys 3 in comparison. 3 and 4 both have elder god tier soundtracks. 4 has more girls but I only really care for Rise, Naoto, Labrys, and Margaret. Yukari and Mitsuru trounce 4. Kanji is in 4 and who doesn't love Kanji. But I still love 3 over 4 because the story was better.
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>>334809714
>>334809624
(You)
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>>334809714
Is that why P5 is moving away from P4's shitty gameplay?
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>Best Characters
Subjective, but my vote goes to P3. In P3 the characters naturally develop and overcome their hardships.
In P4 they only grow and overcome their hardships if you do their social links.
Because P3 merged the characters problems with the story, it worked alot better.

>Atmosphere
P3 no question. Not to say P4 doesn't do it well though.

>Gameplay
P4 polished the gameplay, so P4.

>Social links
I remember the P4 links a lot more than the P3 ones.

>Music
Subjective, they both present a different tone, it be a tie for me. Heart Break Heart Break and Joy are such great tracks.
Not to mention both have battle themes I don't get bored of.

The girls are alright on both ends.
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>>334785130
I like you.
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>>334809743
>4 has better gameplay
>>334808925
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>>334809783
this desu senpai
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>>334809782
its moving away from persona 4 in general, persona 3 too

wonder how many persona 3/4 fans are going to get butthurt by 5
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>>334809624
Oh sorry sir redditor, i forgot your opinion is the right one
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>>334810070
its a turn based RPG so its automatically good anyways.
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>>334809783
>P3 characters naturally develop
Yeah, like Koromaru. He had so much character development. And Ken. And Shinjiro. Wow, these characters are so fleshed out and not boring at all. I still think P3 has the better soundtrack, but everything else goes to P4. To say otherwise is just silly and contrarian.
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>>334810564
the only character who had any sort of development is junpei
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>>334810564
>cheerylicking

You're asking a FUCKING DOG to have HUMAN behavior

Yukari develops
Mitsuru develops
Fuuka develops
Akihiko develops
Even Aigis does

P4 characters stay flat and shallow
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>>334783785
This is a tough case, even for Junpei Iori, Ace Detective.
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Can both the p3 and p4 partys with their best personas beat Kira? Could they beat Valentine?
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>>334783785
Investigation team > boring team with no friendship and no personality
persona 4 harem > persona 3 harem
persona 4 Alpha Male MC > emo faggot persona 3 MC
Adachi > Strega
Izanami > Nyx
Kanji > all persona 3 girls
full control > tactics
theme dungeons > Tartarus
teddie >>>>>> dog
Nanako > Maiko
Genesis > slightly altered Velvet Room theme
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>>334810776
yukari ends up the same, except now she knows her father wasn't an asshole, which is what she believed in the first place
mitsuru ends up the same, except with a dead dad
fuuka becomes less of a pushover because she realized being a doormat isn't the way to go
whoops, actually the bully apologizes to her and becomes her best friend, turns out she didn't need to change after all!
akihiko wanted to become stronger for his dead sister (?), now he fights for his sister and shinjiro
aigis is literally the same, except she doesn't talk all robotic

woah so deep
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>>334810564
I respect your opinion anon, but I disagree.
Koromaru is a dog, and while a character, you're right , he was more a gimick , but they fixed that in P4 where the mascot character actually had an interesting back story and development.

Ken realized he's got to grow up and live for his mama, and realized brutally murdering someone because of an accident is fucking stupid.

Shinji had less than others, and he was a plot point for Akihiko and ken to grow.
Also if you watched the video cams, you'll see Shinji is kind of like Kanji 1.0, tough guy with a soft side.
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I played both games back to back a few years ago. I can barely remember anything that happened in 3, but I can remember everything in 4. I think I prefer 4 because I don't have the nostalgia for 3 (I honestly though that game was kinda dull and overrated)
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>>334809534
why not navarre
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>>334792176
Having a Persona active enhances your natural abilities. It's the only reason your attacks can even harm shadows in both 3 and 4; your persona imbues your attacks with some of your spiritual energy. It even applies to projectiles you fire, like Yukari's arrows, and the bullets from Naoto's gun.

Now that you know this, I'd like to remind you that TAKAYA HAD A PERSONA. Gained artificially, but still.
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>>334811105
>mitsuru ends up the same, except with a dead dad
She learns to depend on and trust others
>fuuka becomes less of a pushover because she realized being a doormat isn't the way to go
Kinda, she also learns what she wants for herself and why
>whoops, actually the bully apologizes to her and becomes her best friend, turns out she didn't need to change after all!
But that was BEFORE she gained the cinfidence to be herself without trying to please everyone.
>akihiko wanted to become stronger for his dead sister (?), now he fights for his sister and shinjiro
He stops beating himself over their deaths and instead tries to train for himself
>aigis is literally the same, except she doesn't talk all robotic
And learns about acting human and how her life is worth more than she thinks
>woah so deep
Definetely more than the IT ; ^)
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>>334783785
P3 was more fun because it was way less formulaic in its story telling. Made it more fun to play through.

Neither of the game had good dungeon designs.

They were fun, but heavily overrated.
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why does no one talk about p1 or p2

are they any good
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>>334811167
I did the same thing, yet for me it's the other way around. I still remember P3 fondly, while P4 always felt flat to me. P3 just did a way way better job at sucking me in, P4 never had as strong of a grip.
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>>334811167
>I honestly though that game was kinda dull and overrated

and P4 wasn't?
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>>334810919
No, Kira was smart.
Persona teams spent months fucking around doing bullshit.
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>nanako's revival

>there are people who think this is good
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>>334810776
I love P4 to death and I prefer it over P3, but P4s biggest sin is that the character development only happens in S-links, and it's never referenced again. My character starts to date Naoto, never is this mentioned except in her S-link, she starts to wear girl clothes, no mention at all. I form a bromance relationship with yosuke and kanji, they never even mention it.
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>>334788861
also not a cutie girlfriend
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