The subtitle of the next Elder Scrolls game will be _______.
Dominion
>>334782117
Hammerfell
Skyrim 2 :^)
>>334782117
ShoohS
>>334782254
Considering the abortion smoothie that was fallout 4 I believe you
>>334782117
Nigger
>>334782254
The fact that this is a likely possibility scares the shit out of me.
Balmora
Real talk:
Blackmarsh.
>>334782765
I doubt they would do that, I do expert every ad and commercial to make heavy reference to it being the next installment after Skyrim.
"From the makers of Skyrim..." etc everywhere.
I doubt normies know what Elder Scrolls is.
>>334782181
Everyone seems to want the game in Hammerfell and I dont know why. Its the most boring location possible
>>334782960
It's bot a new location and full of sjw poc progressive npcs.
>>334782960
>Its the most boring location possible
1.Aldmeri Dominion vs Hammerfell story arc
2.New guilds they could do
3.Big worldspace(Hammerfell+Stros Mkai)
4.Curved Swords
Elves an shit: A true sequel to the beloved Skyrim
>>334782960
It's not the setting I want, it's the setting I expect.
>strong, manly badasses like the Nords
>no lizards or cat people to scare off casual gamers
>actually pretty varied since it borders Skyrim, Cyrodil and High Rock
>don't like it? you're racist. the years since Skyrim have proven that this tactic works
>>334783163
That was Oblivion anon
V
ObliVIon
>>334782912
>I doubt normies know what Elder Scrolls is.
bethesda is normie central. when you ask normies what they think of rpgs, they instnatly think of Bethesda games. oblivion sold 9 million. fallout 3 sold 13 million (nv sold 12 million), skyrim sold 23 million. fallout 4 sold 12 million in like a month. idk how much it's sold since then but you get the point. it's not just a skyrim thing. skyrim was huge but so were every other bethesda title from the past 10 years. 60+% of all of these sales are on xbox btw. by the way /v/ talks you'd never think it, but the amount of PC players who play bethesda games pale in comparison to normie consoles.
>>334782117
Isn't it already confirmed as Valenwood
>>334783609
i hope it is because i want to get footjobs from womanlet bosmer girls who were enslaved by the altmer
>>334783609
Oh, so Oblivion 2.
>>334783790
Personally I think Black Marsh would be the coolest, lizard pussy and poison actually being viable, yes please
>>334783909
no because instead of little orchard trees they're big giant redwood trees.
>>334782117
Redguard Stole My Horse
>>334783909
Pretty much except without those fucking Oblivion Portal sections, seriously fuck those, I never did one properly, just sprinted through, grabbed the thing and flipped the bird to the chain of enemies following me as I ported out
>>334782867
Oh baby please, I love those scaly bros so much. Non-human and non-elvish races need a lot more representation in mainstream fantasy!
>>334783195
But Anon, there's no Aldmeri Dominion in thesecond age.
>>334782117
>The Elder Scrolls: VIce City
>>334782117
AkavirIn my dreams
>>334784968Yokuda in mine.
>>334782117Landfall.
I just want to see it happen, dammit. Although they would probably just fuck it up.
lads, im thinking about cute bosmeri girls again. they're giggling and their rubbing their cute feet on my crotch.
Attila
The Elder Scrolls VI: Elsweyr
Then the TES fanbase is overcome by furries.
>>334782117
Skyrim with guns
>>334783323
Say what you will about Bethesda, but they have always laughed off sjw shit. Remember when the trannies tried to say that Kl33-0 was a "bad parody" of a transwoman? Remember how bethesda simply ignored them instead of groveling like idiots?
>>334785052
Just think about their freakish eyes and cannibalism, and you'll get over it.
>>334783195
>.Aldmeri Dominion vs Hammerfell story arc
Didn't they already get BLACKED by the Redguards once already?
>>334782117
It won't have a subtitle. They'll just call it "The Elder Scrolls."
>>334783442
Not him, but he means that most people that were drawn in by Skyrim weren't cognizant of the "THE ELDER SCROLLS V" part of the title. Like how people refered to Skyrim as Oblivion 2.
>>334785347
Hush now, drink this fermented pig's milk and you'll forget all about that Green Pact stuff.
>>334785271
>>334785572
>implying that won't be what TES turns into if they ever get to Kirkbride's 5th era stuff
>TES will never be a rpg once again
>>334785491
>>334785809
oblivion and skyrim are still rpgs, they're just deep in the "action rpg" range. i'd say that fallout 4 is the cutoff point at which bethesda games are just "Far Cry 3 with some dialogue options".
>>334782117
The Elder Scrolls: Elsweyr to Valenwood
Think about it, both countries are half the size of skyrim and they're right next to each other, put them in one game together where you can cross the border, you start the game in Elsweyr
>>334782117
tamriel
>>334786141
Correction, it's "Far Cry 3 with dialogue"
There are extremely little to no options
>>334786141
You have a point. 4's decision to do voice acting was weird as fuck and ultimately hurt the game, and the removal of a lot of the neat little choices relating to your skills and perks was pretty bad too. I like the game, but even with its gunplay improvements, it lacks a certain vital spark that amde 1 and 2 and new vegas so fun.
It would be interesting to have it set in the Summerset Isles
Maybe see the Aldmeri Dominion from a different perspective
>>334786157
Too many in-game assets to make.Unless they just take a cleaver to the canon like they did in Skyrim.
>>334783323
>>334783195
Thing is if you use your mind, eso has created tamriel but not all places, then atm have left out elswyr valenwood and black Marsh, we have already had human and elves areas so it would make sense them to use a beast race and an area not yet in eso, so that then eso can create the area around the tes game at a later date.
My bet would be on elswyr, kajit are less "scary" to argonians and a storyline around an outsider being immune and eventually curing the katian flu would seem right into the tes hero story.
Bethesda game, So which sells more....cute cats or niggers
>>334786463
>Too many in-game assets to make.
You literally have no idea what you're talking about
>Unless they just take a cleaver to the canon like they did in Skyrim.
Yeah, you really have no idea
>>334786405
I doubt that TES VI would have voice acting for your character, because that would mean ~10-20 voice actors for the protagonist alone
>>334784025
Underrated post
>>334786363
>>334782117
Skurkm HD remaster: Arrow to the Knee Edition
>>334786574
>nuh-uh
>super nuh-uh
Enjoy having no idea what you're talking about.
>>334782117
Elsweyr or no buy Todd.
>>334783609
>Valenwood
>its just the Endor moon with Ewoks replaced by elves
>>334782254
There was a time when I'd get a giggle from this. there was a time when I thought, "meh, oblivion wasn't the best but it had some charm, I think skyrim just missed that and felt really stale." then fallout 4 happened and now doom. Bethesda is just shit that will never reach it's Alex selling billions of copies because morrowind had potential.
What about somewhere completely new, like those islands in between Tamriel and Akavir, or Pyandonea
Its unlikely, but if they did, they would be able to implement more mechanics like sailing, because as it is they don't have much new things to bring to the table
>>334782117
All the marketing = all the money
>>334786770
>getting mad about it
Skyrim, Oblivion, and Morrowind are all new assets, multiple types of buildings and terrain won't be even remotely hard to do.
Skyrim in-game is the same as the canon minus the size of the cities, seriously there's no reason for them being so small
>>334786574
>You literally have no idea what you're talking about
Hes right, 2 majorly distinct areas would mean mega assets for both.
Think of the last 3 es games how they used the same assets everywhere.
How could the have dwarvern, bosmet, ancient elf and kajit architecture in dungeons, while still having content in the story without overloading the game, like a 100gb install...on console
>>334786909
Hey, I already said I'd prefer Black Marsh, I just thought I saw something a while back of Bethesda confirming ES6 is Valewood
>>334782117
"Gullible retards with low standards and open wallets edition"
I hope that they put a new creative director in charge, honestly. Todd should take a break and do a completely new ip for a change.
>>334787097
>dwarvern
>bosmet
>kajit
>>334787094
>Skyrim in-game is canon minus size of cities
Skyrim is smaller, removed cities, and reduced city size all because they didn't have the time and resources to make enough assets for the game. And that's not even mentioning changes to the Throat of the World, borders, the Sea of Ghosts, etc. that are legit canon cleaving.And they even did this with Oblivion beforehand.
And somehow having two completely different biomes, both requiring extensive, large, specialized assets will somehow not be a problem? Keep dreaming.
>>334783442
Why do people buy these thoroughly mediocre games?
Why do people want a continuation of the Aldmeri Dominion against the rest of Cyrodile story line? None of the others continued forcing that story into the next game in the series, so why start now?
>>334787097
>Hes right, 2 majorly distinct areas would mean mega assets for both.
Just like the entirety of skyrim and it's DLCs?
>Think of the last 3 es games how they used the same assets everywhere.
What the fuck else is suppose to be there? A house made of ash in the middle of a green forest?
>How could the have dwarvern, bosmet, ancient elf and kajit architecture in dungeons, while still having content in the story without overloading the game, like a 100gb install...on console
I don't know, but Skyrim handles it pretty well
The largest file size of any game I've ever installed is GTA:V which is 60GB and I know for a fact that it has console versions
The Elder Scrolls VI: Online
>>334783609
I guarantee they're gonna fuck up the tree cities.
I also guarantee they're gonna fuck up the Khajit, which they did in Oblivion as well.
>>334782117
Black Marsh
>>334787431
>Skyrim is smaller
False, it matches all images of skyrim shown before the game's development>inb4 you think daggerfall's proceduraly generated maps are canon
>removed cities
Name them
>all because they didn't have the time and resources to make enough assets for the game
You literally make zero sense, how does the size of the map and less citiescitation neededequal to less assets? They would have just used the same assets that already exist for the game but on a larger scale
>And that's not even mentioning changes to the Throat of the World, borders, the Sea of Ghosts, etc.
I doubt you have a source for any of that
>And they even did this with Oblivion beforehand.
False
Why not High Rock?
I want Elsweyr or Hammerfell.
Coastal Hammerfell would be cool.
>>334787861
They can't even code ladders into the tree cities.
ObliVIonfuck
>>334787951
Arent there a bunch of images showing how skyrims cities are pathetically small.
>>334782960
Because quite frankly they'll fuck up the cool locations. Either we go back to Cyrodiil or Morrowind, or they assrape the lore.
Hammerfell has kinda cool shit going on so the boring location is forgivable.
How did Skyrim fuck with the lore?
>>334788084
Read >>334787094
Don't jump into arguments without knowing what's going on
>>334788153
It's not 3000000 miles big like they wanted it to be, so they claim it's not lore accurate
Seriously though, what's wrong with High Rock? Orsinium could be included as well
>>334788287
If you're going by map size, none of the games after Daggerfall are accurate to the lore
>>334788325
More boring than any other setting possible. Literally just western Europe. Not even viking flavored western europe. Just the dullest standard fantasy possible.
>>334788423
So you didn't like Daggerfall? What a filthy casual
>>334782117
the location with all the wood elves
they have cool lore:
>eat their dead
>arrows
>jungle combat
>add some tree climbing mechanics
>use camouflage and sneak up on your enemies
>lead your fellow wood elves in geurilla warfare against the dominion/empire
its just like the TES equivalent of 40k's Catachan jungle fighters
These games are fun and all but why do they feel so shoddy and at times cheap?
Witcher 3 is as big and mad ein fucking Poland with a smaller budget but it looks and plays so much better.
In 3rd person mode even, when you look down and strike something on the ground, the animation will just look like your character is looking forward but in 1st person they are hitting the ground. The textures in Bethesda games are always muddy as fuck as well and it always annoyed me how shit fallout games looked.
The animations have always been really mediocre as well, Oblivions were horrible and while playing F4 the other day, I noticed how nothing blends together, like walls and ground textures, they're just slapped together and you can see this as if the game world was made of a bunch of tiles. It's jarring.
>>334788325
>Orsinium could be included as well
You mean the ruins of Orsinium
>>334782117
The Elder Scrolls: Somehow Even More Simplified Than Fallout 4 But You Morons Will Buy This Anyway
>>334788423
And I also said Orsinium would be included, so it wouldnt be just generic european setting
Hell, why not have orc raiding parties come down from the mountains again and start raping and pillaging
>>334787951
Completely Absent: Snowhawk
Completely Butchered 'Biggest Cities' Tier: Falkreath, Winterhold, Solitude
Indications That the Team Ran Out of Time to Make Assets for 11/11/11 Release Date: Above, College Questline, Civil War Questline, Copypasting Buildings In Comparison to Structures in Oblivion, Morrowind
Cities Cut Out of Oblivion Due To Asset Constraints: Sutch
Content Cut Out of Oblivion Due to Time Constraints: Kvatch Quests, Imperial City Districts
I'm not even who you quoted and these are just off the top of my head.
>>334788482
I did. Do you think they'll do Daggerfall again? Fuck no. It'll be everything that was wrong with skyrim cranked to the max, with a setting that's shit.
>>334788643
>bethesda
>ever doing this properly
It'll be a camp of three orcs. Every once in a while you'll run into an orc killing a human. You can kill the orc, and the human is an essential NPC and will give you a quest to kill some draugr in order to stop the orcs.
>>334787951
>>334788669
Do we have maps of Skyrim shown before the game came out? I want to see whether they portrayed it accurately. I know I saw High Hrothgar on a map in some previous game.
They better not fuck up role playing like Fallout 4.
>>334788521
Nope, 4th Orsium is still there
It was destroyed and rebuilt many times but theres still plenty of orcs around
>>334788736
>Implying Bethesda isn't just as likely to fuck up literally any other setting just as much
Shouldn't it be High Rock since the Talmor need to destroy Ada-Mantia to unmake Mundus?
>>334788960
Exactly my point
>>334788669
Further more from Skyrim - Sungard, Haafingar, Karthwestern,
>>334788957
Yeah, but at least with another setting they won't be able to make Skyrim 2: Bretons vs Orcs edition
>>334782117
>mfw they use the exact same engine as Skyrim
>>334788960
>>334789008
Please stop trying to make everything about the one event that happened in Skyrim. So much cooler shit can be in the next game. Seriously, it's like you guys WANT to encourage Bethesda's shitty writing.
No matter where it is I'm gonna buy it. It could be The Elder Scrolls: Detroit.
>>334785383
Nah. The Dominion marched on in and BTFO the Redguards out of their own land. And this is after the Redguards were ordered to assist Cyrodiil where the Dominion were sacking the Imperial City and the Redguards reneged and kept their forces home.
Eventually, the Empire defeated the Dominion on their own and drove them all out of Cyrodiil except a small occupying force in southern Hammerfell. The shitty Redguards quit the Empire then spent five years with their entire army trying to dislodge the handful of wounded Altmer holding the entirety of their southern lands.
After that string of embarrassing defeats and single Pyrrhic victory, they started nigwalking around with revisionist sunglasses going "YEEEEEAH BOOOOOI, we sho' kicked da shit outta dem elves!"
>>334789023
There aren't enough orcs to make that setting possible, and they especially don't have nearly as much power as the Breton Kingdoms do
>>334789065easier to port my mods over to
>>334785047
They won't make a Landfall game whilst Elder Scrolls is still profitable
>>334789110
And Cyrodiil is a jungle.
So what.
>>334788960
ada mantia will be the last tower to fall, if it ever falls, it has to be valenwood next for the tower to fall (green-sap, in fact its already deactivated and the trees have stopped moving - this could be a sign that they want the next game to take place there, why else would they add the bit about the trees stopping)
>>334783421
If that wasn't completely retarded I might have a slightly harder boner right now.
>>334789140
Once again, if you're implying that they'll retconn it this way, theyre just as likely to retcon something else in any other setting
>>334788669
>>334789014
>Completely Absent: Snowhawk
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Snowhawk
"By 4E 201, the city had been abandoned and all that remained were the ruins of Fort Snowhawk."
>Indications That the Team Ran Out of Time to Make Assets for 11/11/11 Release Date: Above, College Questline, Civil War Questline, Copypasting Buildings In Comparison to Structures in Oblivion, Morrowind
So you're literally making things up?
>Cities Cut Out of Oblivion Due To Asset Constraints: Sutch
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Sutch
>Content Cut Out of Oblivion Due to Time Constraints: Kvatch Quests, Imperial City Districts
More made up shit
>Further more from Skyrim - Sungard, Haafingar, Karthwestern,
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Fort_Sungard
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Haafingar
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Karthwasten
Everything's there, you're literally making up excuses hoping I don't have anything to prove otherwise, which I do and always will.
Give up
>>334788818
yes actually, and skyrim's in-game map is very accurate to the map from Arena
>>334789291
Yeah exactly. So if we're gonna have a shit story, shit gameplay, and maybe ok lore, we might as well get a semi-unique goddamn setting.
The search for more money.
>>334789187
I'm pretty sure the Thalmor already shut down the tower in Valenwood since they annexed the territory
Skyrim 2. I don't think many of the casuals even know about the elder scrolls part of the title, calling it Skyrim 2 will guarantee success. Even if it doesn't actually take place in Skyrim.
>>334789109
This. The meme of Redguards being worth anything needs to end.
HUMAN POWER RANKINGS
GOD TIER
Breton
GOOD TIER
Nord
SHIT TIER
Redguard
ELF POWER RANKINGS
GOD TIER
Altmer
GOOD TIER
Dunmer
SHIT TIER
Bosmer
Orsimer
BEASTMEN POWER RANKINGS
GOOD TIER
Argonian
SHIT TIER
Khajiit
>>334789407
> Implying Sand-Nigger-Land will be a good setting by itself
I guess you like them curved swords
>>334789547
>I was told to think this by /v/ so here I am saying what every other /v/tard says
>>334789347
That's really accurate, kudos to Bethesda for at least paying attention to detail. I've always been really interested in how they go about designing an area of Tamriel that they've already shown in previous games.
>>334789558
What about Imperial?
>>334787586
You shut your fucking mouth.
>>334789675
Good tier with the Nords.
>>334787861
>>334783609
Bethesda can't even do ladders right, how the fuck are they gonna do tree cities?
>>334789558
Allow me to fix that for you
>HUMAN POWER RANKINGS
GOD TIER
Breton, Imperial
GOOD TIER
Redguard
SHIT TIER
Nord
>ELF POWER RANKINGS
GOD TIER
Orsimer
GOOD TIER
Dunmer
SHIT TIER
Bosmer
Altmer
>BEASTMEN POWER RANKINGS
GOD TIER
Argonian
OKAY TIER
Khajiit
>>334787465
Bethesda RPG's are literally babbies first role playing game, they are the entry level of the genre, its a normie fest for that reason.
There's nothing wrong with that tho, but if you are, you know, a experienced player in the genre then you will likely find them very boring and dull
>>334789558
>Breton
>Human
Yeah and mules are horses.
>>334789804
This
Fucking halfblood mongrels
>>334789615
You can find a lot of useful information on the wiki
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Main_Page
>>334789765
>>334789558
Can you give me a good reason for why the Bosmer are shit?
Because cannibal hunters in giant moving trees sound dope as fuck.
>>334789768
Ehh, not if you start getting really deep into the lore
But i doubt most casuals playing elder scrolls games even take time to read any of the books
Milkingard
Cashcowfell
Casualborn
>>334789765
You made an error there friend:
>HUMAN POWER RANKINGS
GOD TIER
Nord, Redguard
GOOD TIER
Imperial
MUTT TIER
Breton
>ELF POWER RANKINGS
GOD TIER
Orsimer
SHIT TIER
Dunmer
Bosmer
Altmer
>BEASTMEN POWER RANKINGS
ELDER GOD TIER
Khajiit
GOD TIER
Argonian
>>334789867
Because every single male bosmer is a 4 foot tall manlet
>>334782960
Motherfucking swordsinging you dicks
how the fuck do you all not know about that
is it likely to come back? maybe
are practitioners of ansei p much dead? kinda
will bethesda care? doubt it
>>334789976
I said good reasons. The fact you can't live out your fantasies as someone taller than 5'5" in a video game is not a good reason.
>>334789804
>>334789826
And yet they can wipe out just about anything with some next level magic bullshit. How is this fair?
>>334789867
They're not actually cannibals, that's a myth connected with how the god who created them forbids them from harming the forest and its vegetation, so naturally meat is all they can gather there.
but that doesn't mean they only eat meat or even eat corpses, they can import anything they like throw bodies in a landfill.
>>334789956
>Race that was literally shit out of Boethiah
>God Tier
wew lad
>>334789956
>Implying orcs (basically african tribals) are better than altmer (basically nazis)
>Implying sand niggers are better than romans
>>334789765
>dirty Redguards above Nords
Egh, but you do have Bretons on top, so I guess it's a question of taste. However...
>Orcs are God tier
Literally a race of shit-elves. Their God got eaten, shat out and they all turned shit green with lumpy shit facial structures. There will never be a point where they live that down.
>>334789881
Well yeah, casuals/normies/whatever you wanna call em will often ignore the lore of the games, they will just play it because its trendy, they do not care about the narrative, gameplay depth or even the past games
>>334790114
If they could do that the Forsworn wouldn't get their shit handed to them.
>>334789558
>Bretons at the top
>No imperials on the list
By the Emperor!
>>334790161
Orcs are Mongols. Altmer are Chinese.
>>334790140
>>334790161
>>334790190
>race well known for their smithing
>orcs prefer to be well armored instead of fighting in cloth and leather like some barbarian
>they're the only elven race that has a history of friendship with mankind
Orcs are god tier
>>334790206
Heavy Cavalry Knights > Foot Soldier Legionnaires
Archmages > Merchants
Many of the Imperial lines have Breton blood too.
>>334790256
Nope, altmers are aryans. They want to eventually genocide every human so they can ascend to an aetherial state
>>334782117
Tamriel
>>334790329
Orcs are shit tier, Redguards have always done a better job than them in anything they do.
>>334790329
...but they are literally malformed to look like their God after he was eaten, disgested and shit out by Boethiah. It doesn't matter if they produce better mages than the Psijic Order, craft better than the Dwemer or slay more dragons than the Akiviri. They're shit elves. They'll always be shit elves.
>>334790202
How badly are the Forsworn fucked up though? Dealing with hagravens is all sorts of bad news, especially when it comes to alteration magic. Remember the briarhearts? Who knows what else those fucking hags did to them.
>>334790409
>they're the only elven race that has a history of friendship with mankind
I highly doubt Redguards are an elven race
>>334790329
>race well known for their smithing
And yet Orcish weapons and armor are inferior to glass and ebony, Dunmer smithing.
>orcs prefer to be well armored instead of fighting in cloth and leather like some barbarian
You act like this isn't universal.
>they're the only elven race that has a history of friendship with mankind
More like they get their shit pushed in and bend to their knee.
>>334790497
>Briareyes
>Briarknees
>Briarcocks
>>334790508
missed that part
>>334790329
>Orcs raped and pillaged the bretons from the wrothgar mountains
>history of friendship with mankind
>>334790508
Well they're definitely not human.
>>334790386
>altmers are aryans
So they're Iranian then?
>They want to eventually genocide every human so they can ascend to an aetherial state
Not even the Nazis did this.
>>334782117
craft & mine
>>334790604
With imperials at the vest least
So how much does TESO shit on lore?
>>334790630
Kek
>>334790575I giggled
>>334789881
I'm actually surprised how many of my seemingly regular, casual coworkers actually looked a lot into Skyrim's lore. If people like something, they're liable to dig into it. Though yes, many people play the surface game.
>>334790706
From what I'm told, not as much as it used to
>>334790630
A lone Redguard can curbstomp any number of filthy elves with their bare hands
>>334790638
Are you literally retarded?
>>334790706
Not much. TES jumps around in timeframes so much and leaves huge broad millennia undefined that you can squeeze anything in without disrupting established lore any.
>>334790706
Hold on, let me find a /gif/ scat thread to establish just how much shit was getting shat upon.
>>334790790
>>334790768
Glad to hear. I may just hop around wiki pages for a while on its content.
as long as there aren't many furries I am ok
I liked Oblivion setting a lot
Even if ESO isn't that lore breaking it still has shit tier writing
>>334790787
Literally the only parallels the Altmer have to the Nazis are the Thalmor. They have much more in common with the classical Chinese, down to being unbelievably arrogant and treating all others like barbarians.
It's not that hard to grasp.
And if you weren't so mired in /pol/, you'd understand Aryans refer to Indo-Aryans.
So Persians and northern Indians.
>>334790910
Is this still in the game?
>>334782117
elder scrolls VI: fallout 5
>>334790958
>Implying the Nazis didn't refer to themselves as Aryans
>>334790958
Yeah, the Nazis would be the Thalmor. Not all Germans were Nazis and not all altmer are Thalmor
>>334790978
Yes. What's the problem with it?
>>334790978
>praising Sithis aka Satan aloud
>Argonians being poisoned ever
what the actual fuck
>>334791014
I'm familiar with that. That did not make them Aryan, and regardless, the Nazis weren't an entire race.
>>334791095
Are you an idiot?
>>334790978
Don't forget the TALKING "aspect of Sithis." Please tell me that's been retconned to Mephala/Night Mother.
>>334791105
The Argonians actually have no issue with Sithis.
>>334791148
I already addressed that
>>334790978
>>334791105
I thought I disliked ESO already. This is actually makes me more upset than I would like to admit.
>>334791212
yeah but passers-by would know that Sithis worshipers = murderers
>>334791169
could you not make stupid aggressive posts
>>334791169
Argonians openly worship Sithis. Only 2 of the Elder Scrolls games have ever had Argonians with poison resistance, and even then, the recent two haven't. So, again, what's the problem?
>>334791212
I dunno enough about Argonian lore or the Hist to comment about that, but the real problem is that he's praising Sithis aloud, to a COMPLETE STRANGER.
>>334789765
Imperials are in dire need of extinction
>>334791276
Have you even played an elder scrolls game before? This is pretty basic knowledge
>>334791257
Really? It makes me laugh
It's so bad that it's flat out funny to me
>>334791268
>>334791310
Even then, Sithis does not ask for praise and would rather he die by poison. Sithis does not give a shit.
>>334791359
playing elder scrolls has nothing to do with being an idiot
>>334791452
Than why are you in this thread if you haven't played the game?
>>334791424
Sithis literally doesn't have a consciousness to begin with. He (it) is the embodiment of the void, nothingness, zero, nada. Sithis is the equivalent to the ancient Greek concept of Chaos.
>>334791370
Maybe if I was in the right mood, I don't know. At this point I'm just sad. It might be because I really wanted ESO to be good. Probably still hanging on to that disappointment, even though I shouldn't.
>if they do hammerfell it'll be a fraction of daggerfalls size
why live
>>334791564
Right.
Sithis is a god-shaped hole.
I was always curious. Does Mephala have a connection to Sithis?
>>334791424
There's still worship, ala the Dark Brotherhood, born out of ignorance or adherence to the Night Mother. However
>>334791210
If ESO has fucked up SO much that they actually present Sithis as a sentient being, and not just being the ploy of the Night Mother, then who the fuck knows! Maybe he is now pure sapient evil, or some fucking garbage like that.
>>334791292
Skyrim obviously screwed up the lore. Argonians are supposed to have %100 poison resistance.
>>334791370
>gets explained that there's absolutely nothing wrong with it lorewise
>"so bad its funny"
Fuck me, but the casual lore crowd are some smug autists. Again, Argonians openly worship Sithis. It isn't a big secret, or something they hide. Also, 4 out of the 6 games you can play an Argonian in the race has ZERO resistance to poison.
I know. You played Oblivion, and maybe even Morrowind! But you acting like there's something wrong here just proves how out of your depth you are.
>>334782867
Wouldn't it be called agonia or something like that? What ever black marsh is in the argonian tounge
>>334791708
>the majority of all Elder Scrolls games, including the first several had the lore wrong because two late entry ones gave Argonians poison resistance
>when two later ones reverted back to the classic rules with no resistance, it meant that they don't know the lore
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Skyrim 2I would actually be okay with this
>>334791709
>Thinking that ESO isnt lore breaking, and not realizing that the entire basis for the main plotline is bulshit
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/123147/why-does-this-game-insist-on-totally-breaking-the-lore
>>334791819
Sure, whatever. That is but a tiny infraction compared to the rest of the bullshit in ESO.
Insider here, not Beth employee but someone close to the studio. The next title has not been chosen, but it will not follow the 'Elder Scrolls: Location' formula, nor will it contain a numeral. The next Elder Scrolls game scheduled is a new entry in the Elder Scrolls Adventures/Tales series and is a joint venture between Bethesda Softworks and another studio I will not name that is currently being brought under the Zenimax umbrella and will be rebranded.
>>334791935
>http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/123147/why-does-this-game-insist-on-totally-breaking-the-lore
>lol dragon break just happened before it its a differnt time dumdum
>>334791935
Read through the comments. He gets debunked on just about every single point.
>>334792023
1/10
>>334792004
Such as?
>>334792049
If you count "muh dragonbreaks" as a reffutation
That excuse can be used for literally any lore discrepancy
Is Black Marsh too small and unvaried to have it's own game in?
I love Argonians and would love to visit their homeland.
Hell, if they wanted to they could always put the lower part of Morrwind into the game as well, and maybe have a big ship system or something for going into the sea.
>>334792065
You don't have to believe me, it won't actually be too much longer before details start to be released. You should be excited, actually. The game is really different from previous Elder Scrolls or even anything else the studio has developed, but it looks fantastic. Nobody will want action games not made by Beth after this.
>>334792301
Okay then what about TES Legends which must be close to finished by now? Prove this isn't bait
>>334792256
It's about as big as cyrodiil
>>334792301
And do it nkw because its 1 am and i need to go to sleep
The Elder Scrolls: Talos
>>334792226
Adding "muh" to them don't make them any less valid. You want time traveling mages and deities, you're going to get them.
And that's not all. He's just outright wrong about some things. The towers don't protect Tamriel from invasion, that's the dragonfires and Akatosh's covenant with the Amulet of Kings. It's how Dagon was able to invade and how Molag Bal is in ESO.
The OP of that thread knows just enough lore to get offended, but not enough to be right.
I've not really been following ESO, but I remember there was a huge controversy before ESO came out about Queen Ayreen, and why the Aldmeri Dominion would even accept her. She's 23 years old (an infant by elvish standards), and is at odds with the prevalent Elvish xenophobia. She's traveled outside of Summerset Isle by her own, and has pretty progressive views.
Has there been any non-bullshit explanation or resolution as how to she has become queen, without any resistance? Or is the only good explanation still that she's KINMUNE?
>>334792256
Too small? No. Too unvaried? Maybe.
>>334789347
No comment on the rest, but the "Kvatch Quests" he's referring to is probably what Todd Howard described when answering a fan question about what the fan described as Oblivion's lack of complexity and faction politics in comparison to previous games:
>In regards to the politics comment, that's a valid statement, in that Daggerfall and Morrowind both have main stories dealing with a lot of politics, and that wasn't the story we wanted to do this time. There was a time that the Oblivion main quest featured a ton of that, dealing with the Elder Council, but we did end up cutting it while it was still on paper, in all our story reads, it really defocused the main quest from dealing with the daedra, which we wanted the focus to be. Anyway, I think the lack of actually seeing and dealing with the Elder Council is certainly one of my "I wish it had this" things, as we wrote some great stuff for it that just didn't make it in. It was the "nobility" faction line, where you made your way up and became "The Duke of Colovia" and sat on the Elder Council. The only remnant of that questline in the dead Duke in Castle Kvatch, which was to be the beginning of that line.
So, while it is indeed cut content, the official story is that it was due to design rather than constraints.
>>334792285
>doesn't have a single argument himself
>"o-other people say the lore is bad, so i assume they're right"
That thread is disproved on its own front page and dozens more times in later pages. It's also been refuted HERE already.
>>334789558
GOD TIER
Dunmer
Bosmer
Good tier
Kahjiit
Nord
Imperial
Breton
Redguard
ABSOLUTE SHIT TIER
Argonian
Altmer
>>334792462
Yeah, some things hes obviously wrong on, but not all.
Do you realize that dragon breaks just allow for bethesda to retconn whenever they feel like it? It is literally just a retconning tool. There are other ways of including time travel n shit.
>>334792561
Whoops Orcs are shit as well
>>334792561
>Khajiit
>god tier
Dirty fucking skooma user.
>>334792370
I have no information on that. That game is being handled by a studio totally outside Zenimax. I know as much as you do.
>>334792561
Not little bitch tier:
Everyone else
Little bitch Tier:
Orcs & Dunmer
>>334792256
Its to unvaried really, and the enviroment is to hostile to non argonians going by lore.
Not that the last part isnt changeable, remember Vardenfell was closed to most people until right before the game, you can easily have the game be about how huge parts of the marsh have turned less hostile in recent years and make the main quest be about finding out why
>>334792629
-2/10
>>334792625
Lrn2read
>>334792607
Except nothing is retconned? Everything still occurs and is canon. It's just a clever way to have their cake and eat it too. They're not constrained by making a bad call four games back.
>all this orsimer hate
>>334792695
>god tier in caps
>shit tier in caps
>good tier lowercased in the middle of a bunch of lowercased list items
L2format fgt
>>334792561
>Dumner
>God tier
>>334792638
>dunmer
>little bitches
>>334782117
They want to appeal to blacks; it'll be wherever the Redguard live.
>>334792747
Yes, it most certainly is retconning by saying that "there is an endless number of possibilities so we can change the lore however we want"
>>334792561
>Dunmer
>Ash-Skinned xenophobes and literal demon worshipers
>prominent slavers and necromancers
>total dickheads
>God Tier
yeah nah
>>334792896
Thats literally the best part about them
>>334789765
altmer and bosmer aren't shit tier. in fact, all elves are pretty good in their own way.
![yFfYhSc.1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nUajWBl.jpg "yFfYhSc.1[1].jpg")
The Elder Scrolls: Numidium Returns
>>334792893
But they're not changing the lore.
