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It´s gonna be Fallout 4: Elder Scrolls Edition, right?
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It´s gonna be Fallout 4: Elder Scrolls Edition, right?
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It's going to be Oblivion with guns with sword with guns with swords.
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>can only play Imperial
>voiced main character
>"factions" just a faction leader that gives infinite radiant quests
>Goldbrand sword is preorder bonus
>Iconic dragonborn iron helmet is GameStop exclusive

Calling it now.
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>tfw it has fallout 4 dialogue system
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>>334730225
>shitty forced main quest about finding your daughter shaniqua

>>334730707
pls no
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>>334729728
>character wakes up in a prison
>"what the... w-where am I? WHO am I?"
>crawls over to a puddle
>puddle is the character creator
Trust me I work at Bethesda.

Can also confirm that the improved dialogue system from Fallout 4 will return, the game will run on our new streamlined engine, and you will play as the sole survivor of town Wonelven, which was scorched by the coming of the new Daedric Dragon King. The game will take place in Hammerfell/Skyrim.
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>>334731605
"improved dialogue"
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>>334729728
>>334730225
>>334730707
i don't think it will go down like this. it'll be a bit too casualized and actiony but i doubt they'll do the voiced MC thing . in TES, all the races have different accents and dialects and stuff. it's not like in fallout where they can easily just give every player the same voice.
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I just want non-combat spells and spellcrafting back.

That said, I'm willing to bet it'll do that TESO thing where you can only cast magic through staffs.
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>>334731605
>Hammerfell/Skyrim
>No High Rock
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>>334731605
Prove it nigger
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>>334729728
http://www.dayherald.com/elder-scrolls-6-likely-to-be-christened-argonia-or-redwood-no-word-on-release-yet/12062/
>The latest success of the developer was The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt and this gave players a lot of freedom regarding the open-world gameplay.
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>>334731892
Yeah, you've got to be able to pick your race or it's just not right.
>all races have the same voice
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>>334732728
>expecting anything in eso to make sense or follow some sort of lore
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>>334730225
It makes the most sense to play as a character native to the province the game set in, so I'm actually fine with only one playable race.
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>>334733459
fuck you too
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If Fallout 4 is anything to go by, they'll actually improve a lot over past games like Skyrim but still manage to fuck something up somewhere else.

With Fallout 4 they improved gun play and NPC depth and character interaction but utterly annihilated the dialogue system. It's going to be a case of two steps forward, one step back. Mark my words.

Also, if it's in Argonia and not Elsweyr I will rage harder than a million suns. Fuck Argonia. Who the fuck cares about the stupid lizards?
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>>334731605
You strive to trigger /v/

And you have succeeded
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>>334733459
If by "makes the most sense" you actually mean "makes the least sense" then yes.

Especially Morrowind, what with being an outlander even as a Dunmer. There's also Skyrim, a Nord is caught crossing the border into Skyrim and knows nothing about Nord lore.
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>>334734341
>knows nothing about Nord lore
That is never implyed.
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>>334734142
Finally another Elsweyrfag. I thought I was the only one.
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>>334731605
>>crawls over to a puddle
>>puddle is the character creator

I unironically like this idea.
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>>334734551
Yes it is. When you're revealed as the Dragonborn, you don't know what that is despite everyone else knowing.

On top of that, Ulfric says something about Skyrim not being your home.

Stop being stupid.
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>>334731605
>The game will take place in Hammerfell/Skyrim.

To be fair, I think having a literal Skyrim 2 would be something that Bethesda could consider. That shit got insanely successful among the casual "gamers" for some reason.
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>>334733070
>>334732728
The problem is that ingredient are so fucking useful that you have to sell it high.

But if you have even a shred of intelligence, you buy it from guild stores for something like 4-5 gold.

ESO is actually amazing and possibly better than Skyrim, even if it has a bit less freedom in customization. Worth it. Orsinium expansion was god tier
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>>334732728
150 gold IS next to nothing in that game. You can get that much money by selling a single starter weapon or trash armor.
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>>334735570
>this
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>>334734142
Fallout 4 was pretty bad. Yea, they improved character depth but so much else was done terribly.

I think Bethesda shouldn't worry too much about companion stuff unless they do it better like in Fallout 3 or possibly new vegas.
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>>334729728
Fallout 4 was Skyrim: Fallout Edition
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>>334733459
Not for Cirodiil. That place is pretty multicultural
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>>334736020
So multicultural Imperials used to not exist.
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>>334736123
>instead of a human, now you're a furry human with a cat face

WEW
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>>334734142
> two steps forward, one step back
> two steps forward
>

This is the first game that I dropped 5 hours in and didnt finished.
If this is progress, Im a kangaroo
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>>334734142

Came here to post this. They've been doing this every game for a while now.

Fallout 4 did a few things really good but they managed to fuck so much other shit up. Same with Skyrim. Improved a lot of shit but then dumbed the mechanics do so much that I never had any desire to do multiple playthroughs.

I just don't understand how Bethesda can obviously understand a core weakness of their game and then proceed to understand nothing else about said game and fuck up things it had going for it.
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>>334736123
Arbronianfag here

People who complain about people that only play as humans are stupid.
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>>334729728
>gamebryo
>gamebryo
>gamebryo
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>>334736450
There is zero incentive for them to improve, since people will just eat it up no matter what. Why put in the effort when the end result (sales-wise) is the same?
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>>334736478
they won't use gamebryo again
I mean, they got flak for doing so with Fallout 4, they must've learned

right?
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Bethesda made Skyrim
Look at the amount of mods needed to make the game playable.
Don't get your hopes up; even with good writing it's going to be shit.
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Do you think Obsidian could outdo Bethesda with Elder Scrolls like they did with Fallout?
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>>334736720

Speaking of mods has Bethesda even bothered releasing the mod tools for Fallout 4 yet?
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>>334736885
Sure they could, but Bethesda will never give them the chance again.
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>>334736701
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>>334736701
The way I see it, they have 2 choices

>Change engine, risk losing modding to the extent fans are used to, piss of fans
>Don't change the engine, have all the mods you want, piss off other fans

I'm guessing they won't change until they can allow for as much modding as possible, which won't be soon
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>>334736701
They've been getting flak for using that garbage engine as far back as Oblivion.

>bethesda in charge of giving a fuck and listening to feedback
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>>334736956
I like the idea that Bethesda's salty about New Vegas being so good.
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>>334736701
Pretty much the only thing Gamebryo has going for it is that modders know it like the back of their hand. A switch to a new engine would have a really rough transitionary period, but I feel it would ultimately benefit everyone.
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>>334736701
If by flak you mean record breaking sales then yes

You really think they're gonna change Shit if people are lapping up their terrible products?
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>>334736885

I know anymore. They've dumbed down the core mechanics of their games so heavily and they rely so much on voice acting that it would probably be not be much better.

New Vegas was lightning in a bottle. I can't see them working with Skyrim/Fallout 4 mechanics and being able to make a proper RPG experience.
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>>334735054
Would make sense desu, they released solstien island from bloodmoon in the dragonborn dlc, most likely as fan service for the Morrowind fans.
Having something that ties into skyrim like an area or dragons would net them loyalty points with the casual skyrim fans.
And we all know Bethesda only gives a fuck about the money over quality
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>>334737210

*don't know
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>>334736947
No, they're capitalizing on selling mod packs as DLC. If they released the modding kit then people could have just made those themselves which means less profits.
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>New thread about next Elder Scrolls game
>It's always a slightly photoshopped Skyrim font and dragon logo with a "VI"
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>>334737210
I would enjoy Skyrim and FO4 a million times more if the quests and characters were actually interesting, I could excuse the Shit gameplay then.
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>>334737302
Shit, I'd forgotten about the robot dlc. You're right, modders could've easily done better and for free.
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>>334737431
Id enjoy Elder Scrolls/Fallout games more if they werent the same fucking game with a different map/coat of paint
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When modders who aren't even paid for their work make better stuff then the company that made the game, there is a problem
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fallout 4 is the first bethesda game i havent bought, because from the videos and gameplay ive seen, its colossal shit

skyrim will probably be the last elder scrolls i ever play, it was pretty garbage, and i can only see it going downhill into the abyss of forgettable casual action games
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>>334734142
>better npc depth and character interaction

huh
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>>334737854
Pretty much this
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I got Fallout 4 for Christmas, played for ~20 hours, then lost all interest once I hit Diamond City and uninstalled the game. Thank God I didn't spend my own money on it.
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>>334737431
This is what I dont get. How could someone enjoyed those games unmoded for more than a couple hours?
- Gameplay sucks
- Story sucks
- Not even role playing
I can see the appeal of Minecraft to kids, but not anything from Bethesda
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>>334734142

Its black marsh you fucking casual
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>>334738140
It's both m8. Black Marsh is just the Imperial name for it.
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I feel that this is relevant to this thread.
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>>334737854
Same here.

I never really was interested in Fallout to begin with, but after playing Skyrim and hearing that Fallout 4 would

A. Not have any true mod support
B. Have a season pass at launch

I backed the fuck out and never turned back (I also won't get the new Doom mostly for those reasons).
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It would be funny if they removed RPG elements and just made it open world action adventure game.
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>>334738449
>Not have any true mod support
How so? Haven't really been following the game.
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>>334738679
At least then they'd be honest and stop pretending their game is something it's not.
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>>334738726
From what I've heard, Beth still hasn't provided the dev kit for the game like they did with Skyrim.
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Elder Scrolls VI released
>directx-9 unless you get Windows 10
>denuvo
>day one payed mods
>no third party mod tools allowed, must use Bethesda Mod Manager™
>early access
>always online
>its set in skyrim again
>mostly placerholder assets, a few new swords, some of which haven't been textured
>races have been "simplified" now just imperials, khajits (now "cat-folk") and redguards
Also, it's a MMORPG.

Thanks Todd.
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what's so hard about
>making decent combat
>decent magic that's more than balls or buffs
>alchemy that does interesting things
>less grindy crafting bullshit (take it to MMOs loser)
>actually balance the entire map to make it challenging without level scaling

I want to like these games but you have to install 100 mods to make it good
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>>334738972
You need to add 1 or 2 mechanics that are new to the series and entirely blow them out of proportions, also, they cannot be relevant to anything you do in the game AND they have to be the focus.
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>>334738320
hahaha holy shit
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>>334731605
>>crawls over to a puddle
>>puddle is the character creator
I actually wouldn't mind this
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>>334738679
But FO4 already did do that
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>maces and axes removed no one fucking used them anyway
>only one type of arrow to streamline the gameplay
>all armor has the same values the difference is only cosmetic
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>>334739075
I wish they just dropped the first person Shit and went full third person and make a decent action combat system ala Dragons Dogma. Maybe have optional first person for exploration but force you into 3rd for combat.
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>>334729728
Doesn't matter, enderal is coming out in June
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>>334739418
Dont forget:
>all armor material is now just one big set, can't mix-and-match anything
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>>334739574
this sounds awful
3rd person camera controls are 100% of the time awful for action games
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>>334729728
you mean skyrim 2
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>>334739652
What the fuck are you saying. Action games only work as first person? Fuck off.
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>>334739075
smithing needs to be thrown in the fucking trash

I want to find my daedric armor, not make 100 trillion iron daggers to unlock the ability to forge it

not to mention modders clutter up the fucking crafting menus with their shit
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>>334739746
open world games (or games with any kind of level design that isn't Monster Hunter's mostly flat, wide open areas) always have the camera running into problems like level geometry, lock-on distances (fucking dark souls 3 lock-on is AWFUL) and scenery like pillars getting in the way
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You are a Mudcrab.
Spoiled, hated, -666 in honor and some wrist on your head.
You have to work under some merchants because you're under debts.

ESO 6 NEET EDITION
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>>334739574
>Bethesda 3rd person
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>>334738320
>no low intelligence dialogue
I don't know how that anon didn't see this coming. It wasn't in Fallout 3 and was barely in New Vegas at all.
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>>334739418
Axes were gr8
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>>334740087
yes, this place is full of newcomers who allegedly consider themselves '"GAYMERS'"
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>>334739917
On the other hand too many modders just made armor mods you needed to add via console or were in an easily accessible chest in the city in previous games, because they were too lazy to integrate it in a meaningful way. At least with the smithing you can integrate it semi properly in the game easily.

Smithing is an okay addition, but Bethesda were also lazy for just shoving the best armors into them and locking it there.
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>>334740196
>They don't like something that's shitty
>I know! I'll insult them!
>>>/out/
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>>334740087
Everyone agrees that the current gameplay is completely awful so why the fuck not? Stop clinging to traditions if it's killing the shit series.
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>>334739178
more shit
>facebook integration: share your killcams
>highscores
>magical technology, loudspeakers, trains, etc
>game ends when you beat the main quest, you can't go back
>can't disable autosave, game stutters every four minutes
>no dialouge, questgivers just give you the map marker, no questions asked
>the final boss is your son
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>>334740481
>implying bethesda could ever make decent third person, especially in an open world game
are you high?
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>>334740548
This
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>>334735729
>Fallout 3 companions
>better than 4's in any way
That was absolutely one of the things they got very right.
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>>>334730225
>It makes the most sense to play as a character native to the province the game set in, so I'm actually fine with only one playable race.

Fucking shill.
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>>334740548
They're not making decent first person either so I'd at least want to see them try. Literally no reason not to, TES6 is bound to be irredeemable trash if it's yet again just a stagnated version of the previous game.
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>>334740717
it is decent first person
it's just not decent gameplay

third person in bethesda games has been consistently fucking trash
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>>334740807
They have been trash because the gameplay was designed for first person but they allowed you to view it in third person too. Combat designed entirely with third person in mind would be so much better. In theory at least.

Again, the game will be shit either way so I'd rather see they try something new even if it ends up being shit.
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>>334741214
>would be so much better
see:
>>334739985
enjoy your camera problems retroactively making the game shitty anyway
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>>334741214
>They should get rid of one of the few good things they still have going for them
wot
o
t
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>>334738726
>>334738863
They haven't released the GECK, yeah. Basically a tool that allows you to make mods that are much more advanced than just weapon and armour reskins.
They promised it'd come out very soon after launch, but I think they've pushed it til next month. Makes sense for them to push it like this, from a business perspective, why release expensive DLC that pretty much only includes stuff that could easily be made by modders using the GECK, which those modders would then give out for free?
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>>334741382
>Bethesda first person gameplay
>Good
Please. It's literally the worst shit out there.
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>>334729728
Well, since Fallout 4 was Skyrim: Fallout Edition, I guess so.
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>>334741653
>>Gameplay
Don't put words into others' mouths. All that's good about the first person is the camera, and that other guy (possibly you) wants to get rid of that, making you (or that other guy) a massive retard.
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>>334730846
Oooh it's about the redguard then. Hammerfell confirmed.
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