Should I just skip it?
you can easily skip it and live a happy life, yes
all jokes aside dark souls 2 isn't a bad game at all just not as great as the other souls games
Yeah. It's easily the worst of the Soulsborne series. It's not "0/10 absolute trash" but it's just not worth getting into when there are four other games that do it better.
you could skip it but it's still very much worth to be played
its haters are morons who literally hate high quality video games
>>334718985
Dark Souls = Dark Souls 2 = Dark Souls 3
That are are the same quality game, anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves.
If you don't, just play offline.
While it's neat and all they allow the player a more non-linear experience than it's predecessor or successor, the game itself falls flat. The combat doesn't feel right (good example is the Greatsword and Pickaxe movesets), and the game doesn't do a damn thing for the lore of the game - if you care about stuff like that.
Online was completely ruined by Soul Memory.
>>334720052
dark souls 2 has soul memory
its not the same
>>334718985
I was playing it and enjoying it. Maybe I was not liking it as much as Dark Souls 1, but what the hell, still I was having a lot of fun. Sadly I lost my saves months ago, so I just waited for Dark Souls 3 to appear, and I'm liking it more than 2.
At this moment I'd go and play 3, which is essentially a continuation from the 1st one; right now people are still playing it and you can avoid geting 100% spoiled of all secrets and shit. Then once you're done I'd go to the 2nd one.
>only Souls game with Twinblades
>Bad
You guys are fucking dumb. DS2 is great, has two endings, a secret last boss, and is just as good as any other souls game.
>>334720151
So does Dark Souls 3, they just dont call it that. But I assure you there is a level range for online
>>334718985
Roll roll attack
>>334720361
> Every Souls game
>>334720290
Not to mention, Soul Memory while very unforgiving to new players, does help mitigate twinks, and sadly does ruin a lot of end game match making for those SL150 faggots.
And, once you reach the highest bracket for Soul Memory it really doesn't even matter.
>>334720341
Soul memory =/= level range in online
>>334720530
I simplified it for you but that's basically what it is.
>>334718985
>Should I just skip it?
It is the best DaS game of them all.If you want to play only the shit souls games than skip it.
>>334720151
>dark souls 2 has soul memory
One of the reasons it is the better game overall.
>>334718985
It's complete shit, forget it ever happened and move on
>>334718985
If you are just trying to play all ds series, you should.
If you don't want to waste time you shouldn't
>>334720482
>And, once you reach the highest bracket for Soul Memory it really doesn't even matter.
There is max soul memory?
>>334718985
I enjoyed it OP, and if you can snag the DLCs those are GOAT as well
>>334718985
Yes.
>>334718985
No.
any chance to hack weapon durability to make them more durable??
>>334720598
But it's not, meme machine.
When you invade, you can do so indefinitely upwards of your Soul Level, and about 10 levels downward. When you coop, you can be summoned by those who are 20 levels lower or 20 levels higher. Red Soapstone does not follow these rules.
When you invade with Soul Memory, you can only invade in your SM tier and above, which means you could be level 50 fighting a level 285. This also means you can only summon and be summoned in your SM tier or two tiers below or two tiers higher. This effectively means that there is no reason to ever stop leveling, since most people who PVP constantly will be in the highest tier of SM.
>>334721046
41
15,000,000 - 19,999,999
42
20,000,000 - 29,999,999
43
30,000,000 - 44,999,999
44
45,000,000 - 999,999,999
I've never attempted to reach 1 billion soul memory, but they might have a special bracket for you if you make it.
In retrospect now that we have Dark Souls 3 it feels way better than it did when it first came out. By no means is it the Empire Strikes Back of Dark Souls but its still way better than 3.
You won't steamroll the bosses like you can in 3. They're all much harder BUT they are also all traditional souls bosses where you just wack/shoot/magic the shit out of to kill.
The two major things that I think hurt it, possibly beyond repair with the reputation the game gained, is Agility and Soul Memory for online play.
There are minor gripes too. Art design isn't quite as good as the other games, character models almost look like cartoons... Sort of. It's odd.
Those things being said it's the hardest game of the trilogy ESPECIALLY if you're playing Scholar of the First Sin on a next gen console. The enemies are far more varied than 3.
DS 3 is little more than "Fan Service: The Game" but it missed things a lot of fans love about the series. Enemies are primarily just copy and pasted with different models. There's about 5-6 enemy types total. Small hollows, large hollows, knights, slugs, corrupted enemies that are copies of others which either have more health, grow wings, or they have a giant weasel come out their butt.
Play time for 2 with Scholar of the First Sin and all DLCs is gonna run probably 50+ hours.
DS 3 is right around 30 with all side quests done and bosses beaten. REALLY underwhelming.
>>334718985
If you skip it, you're not missing out on much.
Iliked it. It's not as good as the other Soul games but it's not bad either.
Heide's Tower of Flame and the Heide Knights were pretty cool.
>>334721473
Oh also add casters to the enemy list. Overall if you look at how similar moves are you'll probably find MAYBE 15-20 variations so saying there are 5-6 enemy types isn't completely fair.
>>334718985
No.
It's a fun addition to the series, although rushed with some subpar mechanics into it.
>>334721473
>Play time for 2 with Scholar of the First Sin and all DLCs is gonna run probably 50+ hours.
>DS 3 is right around 30 with all side quests done and bosses beaten. REALLY underwhelming.
Are we really comparing the remastered version of 2 + all of it's DLCs to one that was literally released this month?
>>334718985
I disliked it because everything feels so heavy, magic is boring : being a sunbro was OP in ds1, where everything is weak to lightning, in ds2 there's not much damage difference between close combat and magic
and the curse that removes your health when you die, forcing you to turn human either by using item you can't farm or helping people online, goes against the "you don't lose anything when you die" dark souls mechanic
besides that, it's okay
the worst dark souls but still a good game
>>334721817
It took me about 200 hours before I got all the DS2 content/DLC, which includes OG, NG+, and NG+2 where I currently sit.
>>334721817
Well lets compare Bloodborne and 3 then without Old Hunters. It is even quite a bit longer than DS3. Probably by at least 10 hours or so. Same for Dark Souls without Artorias of the Abyss.
The only reason I compared it to 3 is OP asked if he should "skip it" which insinuates to me that he's played one and is considering going straight to 3. There's a lot that's good and fun about DS2 and with the definitive edition being out that's a reason to wait on 3 and give it a go.
>>334718985
Yes, it is widely agreed to be one of, if not THE worst game of all time. Go have someone shit in your mouth. That is a better experience than playing Dark Souls 2.
>>334718985
it everything right except what the original dark souls did amazingly right
also if you like dressing up with armor then this game is for you
>>334721473
this might be true if you were trying for a speed run but for those of us that actually enjoy playing a souls game ds 2 could easily be a 150+ hour game including the dlc
>>334718985
I liked it more than ds3
>>334722718
I have 400 hours in DaS II and i am yet to buy SotFS.
>waiting for a sale
>>334720092
Drangelic sword had the best moveset in the game
>>334722973
that doesn't sound like red iron twinblade
>>334722973
>Drangelic sword had the best moveset in the game
Move sets don't matter when i splat you on the ground with my Dragon's Tooth.
>>334722832
Me too.
>>334718985
>>334718985
Which game had the most memes? I want to play the most meme-y game
>>334723257
means nothing against my iframes
>>334723570
This image has some of the bosses mixed.
>lost sinner that high
>old iron king that low
Also some of the bosses are pretty awesome when you fight them for the first time.
I still remember panicking on my first time with the Royal Rat Vanguard.
>>334723794
>means nothing against my iframes
>rolls and gets caught in the afterspin
Keep on dreaming sonic boy.
>>334723570
What makes a good boss anyway accroding to most faggots on /v/.
I think Deacons and Ancient Wyvern in DaS3 had a great concept because you're not fighting a single opponent but rather a mechanic. It spices things up.
>>334724731
>It spices things up.
Many of the DaS II bosses have mechanics behind them.I only wish they were included in the boss fight more.You can either use the mechanics or not use them at all.
>covetous demon has mechanics
>dragon rider has mechanics
>executioner's chariot has mechanics
>lost sinner has mechanics
>the pursuer has mechanics
>>334725695
Yeah, but you're still fighting against a single opponent where it always ends up with timing your rolls or parrying. Ancient Wyvern is basically a mini-Sens Funhouse, whereas Deacons are more of a slow zombie assault. I want more shit like that.
But yes, you're right, majority of bosses in DaS2 had something else to them. At Dragon Rider you could change the arena, same thing with Lost Sinner. Pursuer you could almost instakill with a ballista. Covetus you could drop down cannon fodder for him to eat.
Now that I think about it, the bosses in DaS2 were arguably better than DaS3.
>>334718985
Don't skip it. It's not for everyone, but I loved it. Get SotfS though since it fixed a bunch of shit.
>>334718985
beat it once and never touched it again
You should do the same
It's better than Dark souls 3
>>334722447
I love 2 for that very reason.
>>334726096
>Now that I think about it, the bosses in DaS2 were arguably better than DaS3.
There are also fun level mechanics like the lizards sleeping while the girl was singing,the moving pillars that changed the geography of the level,the burning of the windmill removing the poison and the poison containers you can move up with the levers.There is probably other nice stuff i can't remember.
>>334718985
2 is good... the dlc made it fucking huge though good luck farming shit
>>334727049
>the dlc made it fucking huge though good luck farming shit
Yep.
The DLC is that rare kind of DLC that is worth it and will give you hours of gameplay.
>>334718985
Yes
t. someone who paid 100€ for it and can accept that that was a waste, instead of defending his purchase decision
>>334727461
t. someone who is defending his purchase of DaS III even when the game is garbage
>>334727894
Where did I defend DaS3?
Oh right nowhere
In fact I just complained to the tech support because the new patch makes the game crash and run worse
and it's unbalanced and consists of 50% references to the previous games that make no sense within the world of the game
The Souls series ended with 1, Bloodborne is a decent spinoff
>>334718985
its worse than dks1
the controls are slightly fucky compared to 1 is my biggest issue
i also had much more problems with insane enemy tracking and shitty hitboxes than dks1, but its an ok game, more frustrating and much uglier imo but its still a souls game
>>334728083
>bloodborn babies
>>334728509
>Shitposting babbies
>>334718985
Absolutely not.
>>334720038
>>334719568
>>334721086
This. It's the weakest entry in a very very strong series.
>>334728083
>Where did I defend DaS3?
>implying you didn't
Where?Did you forget that part where you suggested to OP to skip DaS II and move on to DaS III?
If you had said *OP go and play DaS 1 only* i'd be ok with that but you are defending DaS III and Bloodshit.
>>334726096
>I want more shit like that.
So you like DeS style bosses huh? Play DeS.
>>334718985
Depends, if you like pvp and lots of build diversity then DS2 is much better than 1 and 3 in that aspect.
>>334729879
>lots of build diversity
This so much.
>>334726832
Shame the BKGA and greatshields are useless
>>334731787
>Shame the BKGA and greatshields are useless
What do you mean?
>>334723570
Why do people love Fume knight and Smelter demon so much? They're nothing special really
>>334732040
The BKGA in 2 has a tiny sweetspot, its also slow, much slower than other greataxes and that says a lot. Greatshields aren't any better than a medium shield with 100% physical, or whatever you're purpose blocking for that or the added stability is useless when you can roll through attacks rather than block like some scrub
>>334732290
I don't know about Smelter, its a filter between good and bad players. Fume is pretty unique, yeah he's a "big guy in armor" but his attacks have a variable speed to them, he prioritizes people using estus, he's got two phases that are pretty distinct from each other and he had like a 90+% win rate when they kept track of that. Oh and wearing the squid helm pisses him off.
Can I Mod this game to make it more enjoyable? If I can change character movement, I think I can stomach this game. I remember I had trouble doing that a few months back and quit
>>334718985
I just started it last week straight after playing through first and it's pretty good.
Don't listen to the memesters.
>>334732984
You can hit with them greatshields you know.
>>334733668
Yeah, they're still shit though. Twohand your weapon and learn to dodge
>>334733096
Just fatroll like me.Best way of moving around.
Fatrolling+Running with 99% equipload.
>>334733762
Fuck it, I'll actually try that
>>334733728
>Yeah, they're still shit though. Twohand your weapon and learn to dodge
>he doesn't use his greatshield to slap enemies around that are too tough for his dagger to stagger
Stay pleb.
>>334734172
>Fuck it, I'll actually try that
Get a greatmace and stack on dmg and HP.
You will fly trough the game no sweat.
>>334734190
>implying I'm not twohanding a Claymore or Great Club
>using a shield as a meme weapon
Get a load of this guy
>>334718985
The major problem are the spinning enemies.
-graphics are lazy but acceptable
-adaptability just made the first parts a bit more difficult and is mostly irrelevant for pvp or pve
-soulmemory doesnt bother me as one can alway find people to coop with except for ng+(?)
-mob count doesnt matter either.
People are whining mostly for the wrong reasons. The real reason is this one technical issue that is holding the game back. Remove 350 spins, give them movesets instead.
>>334734707
>Remove 350 spins
Salamanders?
>>334718985
Yes. And skip 3 while youre at since it's even worse than that hot garbage
Demon's Souls > Bloodborne+TOH > Dark Souls III > Dark Souls 2 SotFS >>> Dark Souls 1
>>334734707
>-adaptability just made the first parts a bit more difficult and is mostly irrelevant for pvp or pve
Is this a meme? There's a world of difference between starting Agility and 105 Agility, for one 105 Agility is enough to completely roll through a katana stab
>>334734959
>fast rolling ever
just be a fatso and smash like me
It's very worth playing SotFS version. Great game, and a good sequel to the first.
>mfw Dark Souls doesn't suffer from the Zelda cycle like many other series
I'm proud of you guys.
>>334734798
Examples from the forest:
-Overhead move from the bastard sword wielding soldiers
-strong dagger attack of the foot soldiers
-spear and shield wielding soldiers will turtle and home at you
-the giant produces a shockwave after readjusting some of his stomps. The animation plays too late.
-the pursuer does some insane homing tricks in any direction (mostly in multiplayer)
-the iron clads are ok
-Bow soldiers are too precise (dont know if this is connected)
-the overhead smash of the great sword weilding dudes pre pursuer.
Its one of the first areas, I can go on and on.
From someone who beat DS1 and Bloodborne I felt that DS2 had a different feel to level design and monster design. I got DS2 SoTFS for $20 so I'm playing it till DS3 drops down to around $20. I'm not sure how good DS3 is but as a fan of BB and DS1 I think it's apparent that it's structurally different. If I owned DS3 I'd play it before DS2 since DS2 is B Team game
>>334735341
>Those graphics
Are you playing on fucking mobile or something?
i remember shrine of amana at launch
>>334735490
I never noticed.I stagger them or roll back or kill them too fast.
>>334735341
3.5 million souls
and you are still level 32!!
HERO
E
R
O
>>334735723
Yes.On a mobile computer.
>>334718985
it has the best story in the whole saga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_9G4CG8N48
>>334736023
Those are two different HEROs m8.
Look again.
>>334736218
Thank you.
>>334735341
>Never having stamina
Might be worth it if you could just fall on an enemy to kill them you fatass
>>334726312
>fixed
you mean broke
200 enemies instead of 20 is not a "fix" you turbo nerd, Aldia and the additional lore is part of a patch, that's all the game needed, not that piece of shist "le difficult" memetic version that literally ruined the whole game BOTH for people who bought it at launch and for people trying to get back into it, now we have an inferior version of the game just like with snake eater that STILL BEING SOLD RIGHT NOW, fucking disgusting.
>>334720341
Soul Memory means your PvP opponents become unnecessarily harder for every soul that you lose overall. It's a horrible matchmaking idea that incentivizes cheating or avoiding death by any means.
>>334736339
Two hand smash with greatmaces slaps most foes on the ground face down that gives me enough time to regain enough stamina for a second slap.
If you are talking about the level 32 char.I one shot pretty much everything that i encounter.Even if they survive they are face down and by the time they are up i slap them again.
2 had the best pvp of the series. If you play them for pvp, 2 is best. If you play them for casual pve, 3 is best.
>>334736539
>The game expects you to play really good
What a blasphemy.
>>334736539
Git good?
>>334736513
I am still playing DaS II and waiting for SotfS to go on sale but you are making my worry.
Is it really bad?
>>334719568
if it wasnt for the dlc this shit would be unplayable every area is tedious instead of enjoyable
>>334736842
Well, no. Not the same poster but I like changing things up often. If you do anything other then +10 a single armor set and a single weapon, you gimped yourself against someone who min-maxed.
If I get bored of my current weapon and armor and +10 a new set, I'm not matched against higher soul level opponents unless they too upgraded multiple armor sets. If I decided to +10 5 or 6 different sets and weapons, I could be getting matched against people 20-30 soul levels higher than me because they min-maxed and I actually wanted to have fun.
I did no bonfire no death runs on several characters so "git gud" need not apply.
>>334736734
Bait
>>334737425
ds2 is my favorite entry into the series, having played all the games.
This is because I enjoy pvp more than pve. It has the best pve bar none, with no stupid instant healing and all weapon classes completely viable.
>>334737520
After playing through DS3 for the third time, I can say the same thing about 3. I didn'T really enjoy my third playthrough and I just found myself running through every location.
>>334737642
Not bait. The pvp is simply better. You can straight 1v3 in that game if you're better than your opponents and are careful with your positioning.
You will never do this in dark souls 3 because the moment you stop attacking one person to engage another target he heals to full HP instantly because the healing in DS3 caters to casuals who suck at the game and need 10,000 health pool from instant estus.
>>334737539
Now there is the souls sucking ring that can help you control your souls while farming for materials.
So unless you are a scrub that dies too much you should be fine and even then you should still be fine since there are the stat caps that make stat gains after a certain point meh and make you lost souls not matter that much.
>/v/ pretends it likes challenge
>/v/ hates ds2 because it punishes you for death
what?
>>334718985
Game is great, just not as good as the first and third one.
>>334738016
It is a shame that there is no ironman mode to dark souls.
You are essentially immortal and you immortality isn't even as well made as it was in Soul Reaver.
>>334737949
Your reading comprehension is lacking. Please try to do better this time.
Actually, I think you may never have played the game. Upgrading an armor set or a weapon costs you souls.
Doing a new weapon + set can cost you 50-70k souls. Do that several times and you will be fighting people 20-30 soul levels above you if they min-maxed with one set and weapon and you did not.
>>334735341
>4 adp
>>334738345
This is barely two levels at soul level 175.
Did you even play the game?
Your talk of min maxing is full of bull.
It only applies if you are changing your gear frequently at very low levels.
>>334738686
More running and less rolling.
Also my HP pool+armor let me tank and chain estus after i've gained distance by running.
I really love how in DaS II almost any build can work.
Scholar is the best souls game, I understand when someone says that they prefer 1 or 3, but all the retards outright hating on 2 are absolutely, unfathomably, damaged beyond repair
>>334739101
Scholar is the best I agree. The pvp was just so much better. Also 3 uses a lot of dark souls 1 animations which had no mocap and were terrible. I guess they did it for nostalgia, but I can't stand it.
>>334737657
This. Currently doing PvP on my main, 400 hours on just one character
>>334739296
Steam charts still show the game hovering between 2-4k player which is how it's been the past several months so thankfully ds3 didn't kill the game.
http://steamcharts.com/app/335300#7d
>>334728438
>DS2 hitboxes and tracking
These are my main sources of rage.
Rolling seemed to be more to break some invisible connection between you and the skelly so he stopped rotating at the speed of light to hit you.
Funnily enough they forgot to make this doable for the Salamanders near the fire longsword.
>>334739453
Actually playing on PS3, Iron Keep Bridge, summoned in 10-15 seconds everytime.
>>334739608
Salamanders are the most meme enemy out there.
I cheese them any way i can.
is there ANYTHING redeemable about 2 or stuff that 2 actually did better than other souls games?
>>334718985
It's up to you man. I think it's worth the price, fun game, some areas look ugly but at least you'll be able to fully appreciate the progress they made in Bloodborne and DaS3
>>334723570
Aava, Lud and Zallen and the Burnt Ivory King belong in god tier. Elana belongs in low tier.
No, it's pretty good. Especially in SotFS.
Dayum shame it had to become a meme.
>>334739702
>Iron Keep
Why can't people pvp in a better spot like Heide's? Who cares if its blueberry central at least it looks nice with some areas perfect for pvp
>>334740525
magic imbued moonlight greatswords magic attack would one shot pretty much any player
>>334740525
>PvP mechanics
>PvE mechanics
>build variations
>amount of weapons and armors
If it wasn't for the tracking of some enemies *salamanders cough* the game would've been perfect.
>>334740741
>who cares if its blueberry central
A lot of people?Also if you wan't pure duels you can always go to any of the arenas blue or red.
I personally love ratbros.
>>334740525
Despite the clusterfuck that is soul memory, pvp is pretty good.
>>334740525
Yes. The pvp is the best of the game. The PvE is a bit bland although the game has better animations than dark souls 3 since DS2 copy pasted ds1 animations.
>>334740525
It's "metroidvania" design was more well though out.
>>334740741
I fucking know, I used to PvP in Heide's all the time before my soul memory got too high.
I'm convinced all the people saying dark souls 2 is trash and ds3>>>>>>>>>>>>>ds2 are casuals who suck at pvp and only play the souls games for pve.
>>334741275
I love soul memory.
>be min max faggot that never dies
>invade
>one shot host
Stomping noobs all day long.
>>334718985
its the worst of the series, and it still manages to be very good.
thats saying something. really, its up to you if you want to skip it, but id say its worth playing.
>>334741887
But anon, PvE is better in DaS II than it is in DaS III.
If you are good at PvE and don loose souls this will make the PvP will work in your favor and you will get invaded by weak ass reds.If you are baad at it you will get stomped by stronk reds.
A great incentive for you to not suck,no?
PvP is good. The people complaining about Soul memory are retards that died 1000 times in the first area.
DS3 fucked PvP beyond repair on the other hand.
It also has good weapon/magic balance unlike 3 where 80% of weapons and spells are completely useless
The problem with the game is level design. The areas at the beginning suck ass but it gets better later in the game and best in the DLC
>>334742418
there's no way to recover from soul memory though, so no
>>334718985
If you liked Demon's, Dark, and happen to be playing Dark 3 then there's absolutely no reason you shouldn't just go ahead and play it.
It feels and plays a bit differently though. You also have to pump a few points into a skill dedicated to poise which was a fucktard decision. Also, the designers had a fetish for throwing hordes of enemies at you at any given opportunity ESPECIALLY in the Scholar of the First Sin version.
That's about the only differences though. It's standard Soul's formula beyond those differences.
>>334718985
It's okay. It's probably the longest souls game and most of the content is painfully mediocre compared to the quality of the rest of the series.
You won't miss much if you decide to skip it though.
>>334742418
PvE is pretty bland in DS2. It's just there to augment the pvp experience. The enemies are uninspiring and copy pasted throughout the levels compared to DS3 which has unique enemies everywhere.
I don't have a problem with soul memory since I min maxed and the pve was so easy I never die. The pvp made the game great.
>>334742494
>there's no way to recover from soul memory though, so no
There are soul memory caps and later on there comes a point where it doesn't affect your stats enough even if you sucked and died.
Unless you died a lot and by a lot i mean A LOT!
Also there is the souls sucking ring that let's you affect your souls gains.
>>334742530
Oh, forgot like others have mentioned they tried to remedy invasion twink antics from Dark Souls 1 but fucked a lot of online aspects in the form of Soul Memory.
Others have explained it better but it really fucks the mechanics even with co-op which should not have been the case.
>>334718985
Yes, you should. Every other souls games are better than this shit
>>334742952
>it really fucks the mechanics even with co-op which should not have been the case
there is the souls sucking ring that lets you ground your soul memory and coop at the same spot forever.
I've been farming smooth and silky crap in the hundreds after i learned of this ring.You can farm sunbro crap with that too.
>>334743040
Sup memer
>>334718985
Yes, now that 3 is out it feels like a fan-fiction game that shouldn't exist and 3 is the true sequel.
yeah, skip it. the only stuff that's actually good is the dlc
GTAIV is better than GTAV
Just sayin'.
>>334718985
Dark Souls 2 is like bastard child of the series at this point.
However, it had the guts to at least try and remedy the already half-ass online mechanics that Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1 introduced.
The sheer amount of weapons and builds the game has is pretty impressive and I've never been into PvP but I've heard it's pretty decent in that area but not in the invading others realm but more in the dueling aspect with various covenants.
>>334743383
>GTAIV is better than GTAV
Yes it is.
>>334743383
if you're a gay nostalgiafaggot with no internet connection maybe
>>334723570
>demon of song
>that low
>>334742850
This is for the most part true. Min maxing only benefits you if you're capping your soul level. Part of the player base caps at 150. I have a few different min maxed chars at 150, and I have one character around SL 300 and I have way more fun on my SL 300 character, constantly changing out weapons and armor sets based on mood. It's more fun.
>>334743592
>being this underaged
How are those shark cards working out for you?
>>334743205
True, forgot they added that with Scholar which at least remedied that.
It's alright, you should play it if you have it. It takes roughly a weekend to runthrough given how easy it is.
No, it's a good game.
It's a fucking meme at this point, no one really tells you why is bad, because it isn't.
>>334718985
It's worth at least 1 playthrough, but don't pay anything over 30$ for it.
>>334743607
>first time fighting it
>hit it and nothing happens
>panic
>>334721473
>Those things being said it's the hardest game of the trilogy ESPECIALLY if you're playing Scholar of the First Sin on a next gen console. The enemies are far more varied than 3.
You've got to be fucking kidding. It's the easiest souls game.
The only thing hard about DaS2 is the DLC's and that's because every souls DLC is harder than it's main game.
DaSII is fucking easier than DeS. Name me one hard, mandatory boss.
>>334743939
This. I'd say 30 bucks is a good sweet spot.
Especially now that Dark Souls 3 is out and the population is going to plummet.
>>334719568
It's a shame because i think it has more content than DS or DeS, one more year of development could have made the difference
It's my favorite among Dark Souls 1 & 2. But it was the first one I played, so maybe I'm biased. But that would make the other people that played the Dark Souls 1 first biased as well. So just play it and build your own opinion.
>>334744228
>Name me one hard, mandatory boss.
It depends on your build.
Old Iron King is the one i had the most trouble with until i learned his moves.
>>334744710
>Old Iron King is the one i had the most trouble with until i learned his moves.
You're one of those fucking greatshield + spellsword shitters aren't you.
As of right now, Scholar of the First Sin is the biggest Dark Souls experience with all the DLCs.
Like jesus, it's 50 hours long the game alone, and another good 30+ with all the DLC beaten.
It has a LOT of secrets and the most fashion armor sets of the series. YES it has a cheapy parts, but you can cheap them out too. Then the game can be pretty easy if you know your shit.
Memorable fights and places too, and there's just a lot of content to it since it's the revision of the game. Lots.
>>334744893
Nope, just fatrolling.
When i did him with the 100% fire resist shield i had no trouble with him.
>>334724731
>>334725695
Sorry. Those are known as gimmicks now.
>>334744378
It's definitely good in that department
Mechanically and content-wise it's a superb entry, it just needed to be a little harder and have better atmosphere. That would have made all the difference.
>>334745367
>have better atmosphere.
>the dreams of giants
>the shrine
>the DLC
>etc.
>>334743383
I agree
Especially the hectic and more balanced MP
>tfw no more entertaining free roam shootouts and car chases for V
>>334746646
I think the atmosphere of Dark Souls was fucking phenomenal, some of the greatest in any game ever. It's arguably the best part about it.
Dark Souls 2 doesn't even come close
>>334738345
not to mention buying consumables, especially red orbs since they are quite expensive.
Probably. Unless there's a mod that removes tying i-frames to adaptability, but even then you'll have to deal with shitty hitboxes.
>>334719712
>Soulsborne
Are you autistic or something? Why would you call it that? One game in the "series" has "-borne" at the end of the title while the other 4 end in "Souls".
>>334739091
I never thought of that
Great build then
>>334747141
Good point. I never purchased any consumables on my SL 150 chars because doing so watered down my min maxing. Had to farm for everything.
Honestly the game felt so much better when I made an unlocked character and stopped worrying about min maxing for SL 150.
>>334747141
>red orbs
You can get them from exchanging smooth and silky at the nest and now you can farm smooth and silky without upping your soul memory.
I got a ton of them while i was farming for early twinkling titan. by co-op.
>>334747405
I wish i wasn't playing on a laptop so i could show you some gameplay.
>just going forward and mowing down enemies
>>334720361
>>334720473
It's actually roll roll attack bosses tail
>>334718985
The DLCs are good but you don't really need it to apreciate DS3
>>334736051
>Dark Souls 3 pretty much ignored all the cool shit with Aldia
Why?
>>334748353
Or be fat and run...rolling only when there is no other option.
Or use a bigass shield?
I just can't get over how shitty everything looks in it.
>>334723570
Damn, I didn't realize that DaS2 had this many bosses. That's kinda impressive.
>>334748948
Looks ok to me >>334735341 :^)
It's definitely not as good as darksouls 1, but it's still a damn good game, especially with the lost crowns DLC. Sure, it has its missteps such as soul memory, but it also made some nice improvements to the original
>4 ring slots
>steady frame rate
>better interface
>more build diversity
>better NG+
Basically, if demonsouls is starwars, and darksouls is empire strikes back, DS2 is return of the jedi.
>>334749010
There are almost more bosses than there are enemy types in the game :^)
If i am to be fair DaS2 really has the most content of all souls games.People just like to hate on it for no good reason.
Do not skip it. While it is difficult to compare Soul games because they are so many aspects to them, DS2 is definitely on par with others. Criticism it gets is either unfair or memes.
DS2 reputation is tarnished due to false initial advertising with downscaled lighting and later due to paid dx11 patch. Neither of them are relevant today, but people are trying to hate this game because of that.
Soul memory - it affects wast majority of players in positive way. Contrary to popular claim, its not too strict to punish you for dying to much, but it prevents overpowered gankers praying on low level players. No more SL1 maxed piromancy, fully upgraded weapon nonsense invaders. Admittedly, it is bad for people that want to spend 100s hours PvPing.
Other than that it is very long, well balanced, varied, stylish, bonfire ascensions are great, covenants are great. It doesn't have same charm as pre-O&S DS1, but neither does DS3.
>>334751134
>Other than that it is very long, well balanced, varied, stylish, bonfire ascensions are great, covenants are great. It doesn't have same charm as pre-O&S DS1, but neither does DS3.
From should try and make something that is not a souls game.This is going to turn souls into ass creed.
>>334723570
When your God tier starts off with a Smelter Demon, you know the game has problems
>>334752682
The Smelter Demon is a great spot the noobs boss.
>>334718985
I did initially and just picked it up. I finished Scholar of the First Sin last night.
I wouldn't skip it. It is inferior to DaS and DaS3 in a lot of ways, but has some interesting stuff that is actually really fun.
Is it a good souls game? Kinda. Is it a good standalone game? Absolutely.
Mechanically, it feels like a step back from DaS. The rolls and parries feel janky and unresponsive (until you get over 105 AGL. If you're playing you have to invest in ADP otherwise the game will feel terrible). The level design is okay, the bosses are easy as fuck with a few exceptions that go into "mildly challenging" territory, and the regular enemies can be annoying as fuck (which can be mitigated by killing them until they don't respawn, which is a thing in DaS2).
Flaws aside, it has a lot of weapon and build variety, and the game is absolutely massive. SotFS version gave me around 75 hours for a full playthrough and I was admittedly building as OP as possible.
As a longtime fan and veteran of the series, I can say that you shouldn't skip it. It takes some time to get used to and to warm up to but it becomes a very fun game. It is definitely worth the money, as it will keep you entertained for a very long time.
>>334718985
nah
DLC has some cool bosses
at the very least it makes you appreciate the good souls games more
>>334753992
It's a shitty spin off considering world building, like a dream of some kid who played the shit out of Dark Souls. I love sotfs. Not necessarily for the level and most boss designs but for the coop and pvp in the ng+s
>>334753992
>If you're playing you have to invest in ADP otherwise the game will feel terrible
This is just not true >>334735341 see this?
You don't need any ADP for the game to work.
So git good before you start giving advice on DaS II builds.
>>334754096
What?
