>Legion release date is August 30
>4 more months of HFC
I'm too scared to do anything but LFR. I'd be such a determent to the party, since I don't know the mechanics. Even after reading that stupid book things get snuck in.
inb4 blizzshills
>14 months of HFC
BLIZZDRONES
my sides have erupted
>August release date
>Still in the fucking alpha redesigning the specs and more than 60% of the world isn't even remotely finished, many assets not even started on yet
Yep, it's WoD 2.0 in every way. Every single conceivable way.
>August
>We don't want another SoO.
At least it'll still be better then Heavenshill for a year.
>""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""YEARLY"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" EXPANSIONS
>1 RAID = 14 FOURTEEN MONTHS
THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
Daily reminder
>>334718149
Lets be honest. If they indeed made yearly expansion, you would whine about "waaaa why yearly expansions?? make one every 2 years :(((("
No way to satisfy the general internet crybaby
>>334717407
>August
>WoD all over again
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
>>334717641
holy shit kill yourself you fucking lame virgin
you're gonna die alone anyway, so at least die in your mother's house
>i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-i'm t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-too a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-afraid of t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-t-trying a piss easy game
jesus fucking christ, your life has to be a wreck
>august
>14 months of HFC
gg blizz
>people literally thought that this would literally come out in June or something
>>334718312
>WoW isn't dying
The simple fact that they stopped reporting their playerbase numbers is proof of how poorly the game is doing.
>>334717407
Is that Sylvanas?Why is she so hideous?
>>334717407
>that manjaw
quality art direction.
>>334718709
yes im sure it will be gone anyday now and wildshit/faggot fantasy/animu desert will take its place
>>334718659
Most people I play with expected it to come out september.
>>334718853
They killed my fucking wowfu. Fuck blizzard.
I bought the MoP version this weekend because it was 5£ only with free month included and I was looking for something to play during the evenings and weekends and damn. Zones from level 10 onwards are almost completely empty. While finding a party to dungeons doesn't take much, when you find one it's almost always people with full heirloom gear, outdamaging you by whole fucking lot, making you feel a lot more useless.
How does it look like on the higher levels? LFRing my way to 90 already is kinda boring, and I'm barely halfway through.
>>334718853
attractive characters are literally rape
>People stay subbed during the downtime between expansions
Why? I did enough HFC to get fully geared, about 3 months, then I unsubbed because I knew Blizzard wouldn't get Legion out for a long fucking time. I did the same thing in Cata and MoP. Why do retards stay subbed during these droughts?
>>334718312
Reminder that TDB stopped on 2013.
>>334717407
>"Largest team WoW has ever had"
>"WoD took longer to release because we had to get the new devs/artists up to speed"
>>334718913
Only idiots ever thought that one MMO would dethrone WoW and be the "WoW-Killer". Rift was even advertised as such.
But Blizzard was going to kill WoW on its own, and it was seen as early as Wotlk with the changes that they made. Other MMOs would eventually come to take a chunk of the WoW playerbase due to being a popular franchise (Star Wars, Elder Scrolls, FF), or due to being a better WoW alternative (Rift, GW2, Tera).
>>334719083
If you don't already have friends to play with, just don't even bother. The community side of wow was gutted many years ago.
>>334719172
>Why do retards stay subbed during these droughts?
Why did you fully gear your character when there were no more tiers to do? People do useless stuff forfunNot that I think playing the same patch for a year isn't retarded.
>>334719172
I use gold to keep playing. No way in hell am I giving $15 a month for literally ZERO content for 14 months.
I just wish the 40k tokens would go back down to the reasonable 30k price. Not that 40k is hard to collect, but the price has no reason being that high.
>>334717785
>more than 60% of the world isn't even remotely finished
u wot
>>334717407
There was a time when WoW was good.
All good things pass.
>>334719453
Because it was a once a week thing that was low effort and I wanted to see the whole raid on at least normal mode.
>>334719473
I was using tokens since they came out. That doesn't mean there was anything to do after clearing HFC and getting what I wanted out of it. Not even worth the gold.
>>334719473
>Not that 40k is hard to collect, but the price has no reason being that high.
No content = no need for gold = not many people buying tokens = token price goes up.
I'm surprised it's not higher, because who the fuck honestly is buying gold at this point in the xpac?
>>334717785
b-but MUH BIGGEST DEV TEAM EVER
Legion is going to kill WoW for good. Blizzard can't handle another xpac on par with how fucking garbage WoD was.
>>334719902
>Cata comes around
ITS THE END WHAT ARE BLIZZARD THINKING
>MoP comes around
LOL PANDAS BLIZZ OUT OF IDEAS WOW IS DEAD FOR SURE
>WoD comes around
AHAHA ALTERNATE TIMELINES WOW IS FINISHED
>Legion comes around
Legion is going to kill WoW for good
>2021 expansion comes around
I swear guyzzz wow is gonna die this time for sure
>>334720125
kill yourself
>>334718557
> Being this mad.
>>334720143
>w-w-wow is d-doing just f-f-fine!
Good thing blizz is no longer reporting sub numbers so we won't see legion dip to 3 million subs :^)
>>334720143
Except Subs are at Vanilla levels right now and they've probably dropped off even more since they stopped reporting numbers
>>334719785
Not for much longer seeing as you look like a budget demon hunter.
>>334717742
>>334717785
>>334717847
>>334718149
>>334718312
>>334718557
Either you are same fagging HARD. Or you guys are literally lethargic faggots with no other games to play.
Is he died?
>Cataclysm's final raid tier reused 6 models for each boss, and 3 zones (Dragonblight, Eye of Eternity, and the Gunship)
>MoP's final raid tier reused Orgrimmar and Ragefire Chasm for half of the raid
>WoD's final raid tier reused the final boss
>It's still taking them this long to come out with expansions regardless of the amount of shortcuts they continue to take
>>334720283
>>334720326
Event 1. Legion comes out
Sub numbers will go back up to 6-7 million during release. Example: WoD
Now one of two things will happen.
1. Legion has good follow up patchers like Ulduar or Isle of Thunder
Sub numbers stay around 4.5-6 million
2. Legion lacks content like WoD
People will leave, subs will drop to 2 million or so
The thing is while HS has become blizzards cash cow, they are still HEAVILY invested in the Warcraft Franchise (the franchise, not WoW itself). We can all agree that blizzard are good at making decisions that generate money. It is unlikely that they will let WoW bleed the warcraft franchise out. One way or the other, they will make sure the franchise survives
>>334720627
>WoD's final raid tier reused the final boss
New model and completely different fight.
But WoD was missing AN ENTIRE FUCKING TIER, and they still managed to fuck up this bad.
>>334720562
What's Tirion doing there I thought hedies too??
>>334720562yep, after a heroic cinematic stand against Tichondrius, Brutallus and Jaraxxus
>>334720627
They're gutting the dev team, and allocating resources to their other games, namely Hearthstone and Overwatch. They just don't care about WoW anymore.
>>334720821
That's not Tirion, anon. That's Dmonslayrxxx.
>>334720752
>Blizz maybe getting more content out is enough to stave off nothing to do between raid lockouts
>>334720825
>tichondrius
>brutallus
>jaraxxus
varian went out like a bitch to those scrubs?
>>334720935
Huns come back to the discord
>>334718384
I'm sure that would be so relevant as the whole market purchased the xpac.
>>334717407
How long before they start defaulting to laziness to get it out the door on time?
>>334720886
>They're gutting the dev team
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/wow-dev-team-bigger-than-ever-before-already-has-n/1100-6422762/
>>334720752
>Sub numbers will go back up to 6-7 million during release. Example: WoD
People aren't going to fall the for the same bait and switch again. WoD hyped up EVERYONE, and then totally disappointed everyone.
>>334720796
>>334720935
are you have been autismed frind?
>>334720950
you realize legion prolly has "do between raid lockout" content than other expac launches due to the world quest system? Guess I cant expect shitposters to be informed
>>334721141
>repeat quests
Good luck.
>>334721159
Yes but they're not on now
>>334719631
Times change.
>>334721068
It's obvious this is damage control bullshit. Look at how much content was scrapped in wod, their dev team has to be at an all time low. Content is slower and more bland than ever.
>>334721210
TBC and WoTLK managed to keep players interested beween raid lockouts. What did they have? Oh wait, it was "repeat quests"
>>334721141
it's frand
>>334721287
and no LFD
and no flying
and a market that hadn't played the game for 5 xpacs
Will they ever fix it so leveling characters through dungeons isn't a mindless slog of nothing but drumming 2 keys?
Would WoW be better with a level crunch?
>>334719473
>40k
You americans are fucking lucky. On euro servers the tokens are going for 85-90k gold atm. I wouldnt mind leveling a new character or something like that but fuck that gold price and I sure as hell aint paying with real money for another month.
>>334721141
boom headshot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LexdFUocZb0
>>334720459
A highly anticipated expansion is winding up looking exactly like the complete failure and disappointment the last one is. Some people get rightfully upset at this revelation while others shitpost and troll around because they're bored. Doesn't mean it's all one samefag.
Thank god I'm getting a better computer soon so I can actually fucking play better games.
Who /solo/ player here? No guild/no groups just soloing everything you can as a DK. Not to say I like all the shit blizzard has done ruining the community through solo player/zero communication required incentives.
working hard on them garrisons 2.0
gg blizzcucks
>>334721528
Why even play? It's my circle of friends that keep me playing, the game itself is trash.
Fuck legion. Its all about Kronos.
>>334721350
>and no LFD
>and no flying
Wotlk had both, and they kept players stable and growing from 10-12 mil
>and a market that hadn't played the game for 5 xpacs
valid point. but since this is the case, its the natural progression of the game/genre. Other than taking unprofitable routes (HUGE dev team to chug out 3 month raid patches and tons of other content), there is no economically feasible route for blizzard to take
>post yfw you realize hearthstone killed wow, and not one minute too soon
>>334718853
because metzens wifes daughter was triggered by the lady dragons and their armor showing of their skin.
should have seen how
>mfw remembering the shills who tried to generate hype during WoD's beta and said it was better in every single way than MoP
>they said garrisons would be the player housing we always wanted and would be fully customisable
>they even said ashran would be like old AV
>mfw these same people are already shilling for Legion
>mfw these same people are in this very thread
>>334721896
to be fair, garrisons did look like player housing when development was started on them
>>334721896
dcfags on suicide watch
>>334721852
saw a few videos of this game but I can't find it on my facebook games app list
I was searching for side-games to play while studying with my wife's son. stuff like managing crops, wait times, building my farm and having my crew
they told me this game was very similar and quite popular
>>334722094
game was already dead when the cash shop hit. hearthstone provides wheelbarrows of cash for relatively little effort, specially compared to WoW
>>334721896
"mfw remembering the shills who tried to generate hype during WoD's beta and said it was better in every single way than MoP"
and sub numbers jumped to 10 million at WoD launch. So the "shills" were successful. Is that why you are happy? :^)
>>334722094
My god I forgot how great the website looked in the past. What we have now is so shit.
>>334722094
I remember looking at the vanilla Tier sets on that pre-activision site at the school library.
>>334717641
Watch the Fatboss tv YouTube guides to the bosses.
You will be fine. LFR is so easy.
>>334719690
It's 80k on EU.
>>334722094
this made me sad
'watching photos of my decesed pet' levels of sad
>>334719690
wouldn't less demand lower the price
prepatch when? I want to play dh.
>>334722364
my brother and I did that in middle school when the game came out. It was the tier 2 sets after molten core. Fuck I miss that
>>334719172
>fully geared
mythic? Unlikely.
I like gearing my alts now. I have 3 characters over 725. Main is 738 mistweaver
>>334722620
probably mid july
>>334722620
>i want to play a class that will be op for two weeks at launch before being nerfed and homogenised to oblivion until they are DKs 2.0
>>334722206
investors come first
always
>>334722554
I meant less people buying tokens with real money, but yeah.
>>334722620
>playing a LITERAL 2 button rotation class
kill yourself my man
>>334719068
I'm honestly more sad about Velen, FUCK Yrel.
>>334722661
>>334722364
>tfw jizzing so hard imagining my character wearing t2
life used to be so simple
>>334720825
>>334720996
Varian is obviously going to pull Vol'jin and just come back at the end of the expansion's life cycle.
>>334722734
>2 button rotation class
epic
>>334720627
it's almost impressive how recycled the models were in DS, the orc boss had vanilla armor!
>>334720431
ur funny
>>334718853
I'm guessing that they modeled the face to look like Michele Morrow.
I have literally no evidence for this, but I feel like there's some resemblance.
>>334722906
im dead fucking serious
>>334722803
Better yet, I was the first person on my server that ended up with the Vestments of the Shifting Sands from Kurinaxx in AQ. It isn't much but at the time, it was everything to me
At $15 a month, you've now paid $210 to play the same game with no content patches since HFC launched
But remember, subscriptions are necessary to produce more content, otherwise the game would go for months or years without new stuff
>>334723056
>you've now paid $210 to play the same game with no content patches since HFC launched
I generated $4000 with carries breh.
Im gonna resub to this game.
I have 2 level 100's, a mage and a paladin.
Anyone want a new guy in their raiding guild?
>>334723002
im just going to lbow you away
>>334723180
FUCK
YOU
check this
>>334723238
kek
>>334723180
haha nice
>>334723002
>>334723002
btw hunters can tame kurinaxx in leg
>>334723056
>Not paying in gold
>>334723281
my brother took so long to get those. He was a warrior when we were kids
>>334717785
You're wrong on the world, the world looks to be about close with the latest build. Raid testing is also under way with most bosses already tested
you're right on the specs though, those are fucked up
>>334723420
it was op
>>334723406
>>334723406
>Teebu's
holy shit
>toys
>pets
remember when content was good
>>334723406
>Counted as Silithid
>Requiring BM to use the based earwig pet
Please tell me BM will finally be worth playing. Marksman took the crown way too hard with its meme-tier lone wolf talent, and BM hunters always get kicked for not being MM. BM was more fun to play.
>>334718659
>literally thought that this would literally
>>334723573
well MM get their pets back, BM gets shitty artifact gun, instead of bows, no idea currently, no alpha access
>>334723683
LITERALLY A MEME
>>334718659
>people literally thought that this would literally come out in June or something
is not like blizzard said september the last year anon.
>>334723549
true
>>334723763
I personally like the gun model, but not keen on that Hati thing. Guardian NPCs are literal cancer, and have been since Vanilla. Hopefully Hati isn't as useless as it seems.
MM getting their pets back is a big step forward, but they're also getting big nerfs. Justifiably so, but still nerfs.
>>334723547
Not very rare anymore. with garrisons you can get it through your cache
they were selling for 6-8k when I quit playing ~8 months ago
>>334721728
>what is sandbox content
Video games.
>>334723954
>they are going to fuck the salvage yard
going to buy me some sword and reslel them.
>>334721728
LFD came out in 3.3.
>>334724072
a lot of buzzwords. why not post one of these "awesome ideas" that you have that would keep players entertained between raid lockouts?
Yeah, no, all you can do is complain like a whiny manchild
>>334724459
>>334724381
was there a decline in player numbers during the long ICC patch with LFD+Flying?
>>334724534
supposedly
there's an inforgarphic
>>334724498
This makes me laugh
paying 14 months of 15 bucks to wait in your garrisson HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAH
TH-THEYLL GET IT RIGHT THIS TIME!!11 xD
>>334723415
How the hell do I make enough money like people say with garrisons but what the fuck do I need to specifically do
>>334724660
treasure hunter minions, a level 3 inn. das it mane
>>334724660
People say to use the level 3 Inn and have all Treasure Hunter followers, but that never works. I never see high gold missions.
Farm old content, sell old materials and minipets. I make enough gold on one character every month to buy a token, just by running Cataclysm raids on 25 Heroic and selling everything.
>>334724585
The same infograph posted before in this thread shows steady numbers
The decline in recent expacs likely have more to do with the evolution of the players themselves. Same type of things to do, but people dont want to. Blizzard cannot figure out how to continually keep "between raid lockout" content relevant and engaging for the newer and older players anymore
legion has world quests and mythic dungeons, but i doubt things like those will ever have the same effect as end game content did in WoTLK ICC patch
>>334724534
>was there a decline in player numbers during the long ICC patch with LFD+Flying?
Flying is a bc thing bro and as you can see here >>334725005 there wasn't a decline because of muh flying.
>>334724781
>>334724981
>treasure hunter minions, a level 3 inn. das it mane
>People say to use the level 3 Inn and have all Treasure Hunter followers, but that never works.
Godammit
>>334724981
https://theunderminejournal.com is pretty useful.
Some of the gold people spend on transmog is unreal.
>>334725005
>>334725089
There wouldn't be. Simple features don't automatically make the most popular MMO lose a million subs. The trend came though, and there's little else to blame.. The most obvious reason beyond "just a few features" is content, and there's already a suggestion that seems to have basically no alternative.
>>334724498
That there's no reason to rely on Blizz for every bit of content is clear.
>>334722984
lol
>>334725802
>tfw you get items that nobody will transmog to
I still don't trust the salvage yard. The best item I've had from there since Hellfire Citadel came out was a rare sword that sold for 500 gold. That's it. Everything else wasn't even worth listing, and was more valuable as vendor trash.
>>334721528
Poor bastard.
Pick up some RPG games for cheap off of steam, GoG, or where ever you pirate.
>>334726014
blaming flying for it is so fucking retarded
>>334720431
>>334720125
leather head transmog on a hunter does it work now
>>334719172
>level 4 characters to 100 and spend a month getting their garrisons running
>log in twice a day morning and night to cycle missions
>smash boxes for 5 digits of gold once a month before mail decays
Guild has been dead for months and I miss 'em. Only reason I've played since Cataclysm was the same set of good bros.
I wonder how bad markets will be when Legion hits, I can't imagine how many Barons are already sitting at 7 digits or more.
>>334718312
>there's people still playing the game
>game is in fact NOT dead
You guys don't think out things very far do you? I would ask how many of your friends are still playing but...
>>334718312
The game is literally dead.
They had to put in phone game apps to keep people from having nothing to do lmao.
>>334728632
We have a guild of 32 cores and have played since vanilla. Half of them are now unsubbed and wait for legion, but my close buddies still play, we mostly just hunt achievements during downtime between raids
>>334724660
>>334724781
>>334724981
You need multiple level 3 garrisons. It takes about 2 months to get each set up really well.
>Level 2 Inn to start gathering Treasure Hunters. One a week and they have no ilevel and the best gold missions are 650+ lol. Also Rares at best, gotta xp grind for Epics
>Level 3 Inn for Treasure Missions once you have a dependable stable. Don't wanna fail an 80% Blingtron's Vault do ya.
>Level 3 Salvage Yard so you can cycle even rewardless missions. Open them a few hundred at a time and they add up even if you vend everything. Learn to recognize rare transmogs
>Salvage also gives you ilevel boosts if you can be fucked to open them once a day
>Side-Grades
>Get a War Mill and run it non-stop to get ilevel items. Costs Garrison Resources
>Trading Post is great once you stockpile GR faster than you cycle it. Buy the cheap 4 GR resource every so often and push it through the profession buildings or AH it or whatever. Check the GR converter once a day and give her useless shit you wouldn't AH like blackrock ore.
>Lumber Mill produces nice GR but requires leaving your Garrison
>If you can be fucked to go to Nagrand once a week/2 weeks/month and farm dozens of elite wolves a Farm will give you free Fur and Savage Blood for an AH side income
>Advanced: Do dailies in Tanaan until you can get an Oil Well. Get any two ships with the crew that reduces mission time. Equip them with Tuskar Fishing Nets. Do the Oil Rig mission at least twice a day(syncs nice with your cycles especially if you have the level 3 shipyard)
>Every few weeks smash the fish into meat and sell the meat
>or cook it and sell it as raid food. You need more Crescent Saberfish than anything else so look up what is selling before you waste your time on fucking Stamina food
>Shipyard can have OK money missions too but lol shipyard also everything's slower too
TBQH if you haven't done it yet they're about to gut them. I got mine going about a month after Treasure Hunter was added
>>334725802
>Some of the gold people spend on transmog is unreal
Gold isn't worth anything in this game anymore. Literally any retard with a few 100s can hit gold cap with no effort. What else would you spend it on?
>implying any of you fuck knuckles are still subbed
The fuck do you care if its 14 months? Chances are legion will be garbage, but the chances of it not being garbage (however slim they may be) go up with the more time they take.
Best way to make gold is to find a niche on your server.
Transmog, BoE's, Boosts, Profession kits, work the AH by buying low selling high.
Around 5 months ago, blizzard reintroduced a pattern to the game that was removed in TBC. Vendor was selling it for 30s and people were buying it for 2500. Took people a month to catch on.
Cornering a market can really pay off if the item is rare or annoying to farm.
God damn i miss the economy side to wow even though they tried to murder it with garrisons.
>>334717407
>WoW is 12 years old
>mfw still never even tried it
Feels good that I didn't waste my life. Outside of posting on 4chan of course.
>>334727447
That post has other explanations.
>>334722094
>Old site layout
It's been years since I've seen it
>>334728386
Hey.
>>334729742
This, basically.
>mfw Blizzard announcing the release date now is a way to swipe off the Nostalrius/Vanilla controversy
>>334717407
4 months away? thats pretty ballsy. they haven't even started beta yet.
also, its already april. what the fuck happened to the year?
