Sign this petition for a Legacy server of World of Warcraft:
https://www.change.org/p/mike-morhaime-legacy-server-among-world-of-warcraft-community?recruiter=522873458
"If we can get 200k sigs on this petition, I will personally send it to Mike Morhaime. #YouThinkYouDoButYouDont"
Nostalrius is dead. Not its legacy.
>>334712748
I think the more people sign this shit, the more blizzard is not gonna wanna repeal the ban on nostalrius.
>>334712748
Nostalrius isn't dead, dumbfuck. They'll reopen the servers under a different name but keep it more hushed.
>online petitions
>>334713037
Who cares I already quit buying blizzard shit a long time ago.
I didn't buy the "it fixes everything" d3 xpac
I didn't buy lotv
I didn't and won't buy overwatch(it's shit, fuck off porn posters)
I don't play hearthstone
I don't play hots
I was a core blizzard gamer subbed since 2006 and purchased every blizzard game since warcraf2, but their recent decisions and games are so fucking shit
As an ex-Trinity & Mangos TBC Emu Core dev:Should have had the server in the NL where Blizz has no legal precedence.Nost should have done some researchFaggots.
>>334713121
Literally being sued for everything they're worth. Their lives are over.
>>334713121
That is not what the Nostal team says. They want Legacy official server too.
Even if you dont play WoW, please, help us :)
>>334712748
>change.org
>>334712748
>Implying Mike "More tears" Morhaine gives a fuck what some nostalgiafags and the washed up original creator thinks
lmao
>nostalgiafags thinking they're achieving anything by signing a petition on the internet
Starcraft was meh
Starcraft 2 was even more meh
Diablo was epic
Diablo 2 was even more epic
Diablo 3 was lame as fuck
World of Warcraft was epic, until WotLK.
Warcraft I never got into.
>>334712748
Cam I sign a petition for a better game?
>>334713958
>World of Warcraft was epic, until Cata
fixed
>>334714145
WotLK is what ruined the game, mate.
Removed all true tanking stats, added Heirlooms, welfare epics, LFG, LFR, server exclusivity got ruined, battlegroups got broadened, and most of all, they removed 2v2 from rated arenas.
>>334713958
>Starcraft was meh
>greatest RTS of all time
>"meh"
>"epic"
You probably weren't even born when Diablo was released you little fuck.
>>334714304
TBC had welfare epics, or did you forget that they added the badge/point system for doing heroics?
>>334714304
The end of WoTLK killed WoW*
LFR wasn't added until cata
>>334714341
I was more into Command & Conquer, and always looked at StarCraft as some shit alien knockoff.
>>334712748
>change.org
>>334714304
they didn't remove stats in wotlk
they didn't have lfr in wotlk
idk what you're talking about
>>334714441
You couldn't faceroll heroics in greens and blues in BC like you could in WoTLK.
>>334712748
>"If we can get 200k sigs on this petition, I will personally send it to Mike Morhaime so he can immediately throw it in the trash and place a restraining order on me. #YouThinkYouDoButYouDont"
ftfy
>>334713261
I'm with you on that point, I don't think i'm going to even consider another blizzard product until they drop that disgusting new cartoon style they're forcing into every game they make now.
>>334714304
That was Cataclysm. WotLK is considered to be the best expansion by most, with TBC coming in second.
>WoW community is going crazy
99% of the people playing don't give a shit and neither will Blizzard
>>334714685
yea you could.
i was in a level capped guild that did tbc raids at level 70. We went straight to gruul and geared everyone up from there.
>>334714601
You never raided in BC, it's okay. I don't expect you to understand.
>>334714760
the fuck are you talking about
Blizzard games have always been cartoony as fuck
All these dip shit WotLK babies omfg
>>334714852
If you don't expect me to understand, then why the fuck are you bringing it up you retard?
It should be legal to hunt faggots like you for sport.
>>334714852
>gets called out
U JUST DONT UNDERSTAAAAND
>>334714304
Cata was the one that did practically half of the things you just said not WotLK you fucking twat
>>334714304
2 v 2s are a fucking joke
>>334714852
You still needed defense in WotLK to get uncrittable and a certain amount of avoidance to get uncrushable. They literally didn't remove a single stat.
>>334714304
Literally the only thing wotlk did wrong was LFR, and that came in at the very tail end of wotlk.
The vast majority of wotlk was the absolute pinnacle of wow, and if you disagree then you either:
A. Never played vanilla, bc, and wotlk
B. Have horrible taste
C. Are a faggot warrior or mage pining away for the days in which you were stupid, ridiculously and hilariously overpowered
End of story, period.
>>334714931
I'm aware of that, but it's gotten far worse over the years
>>334714852
>get called out
>act like a smug twat without literally refuting anything
Oh man your pathetic.
Why would Blizzard intentionally sabotage their newest expansion by announcing legacy servers?
>>334715194
>LFR
>wotlk
I can tell you did not play the game
>>334715194
lfr wasn't released until dragon soul you mongoloids
The half of the subscripted community wants it. And millions of people who dont play anymore would like to join such a server.
Please sign it
>>334715194
>Literally the only thing wotlk did wrong was LFR, and that came in at the very tail end of wotlk.
Wasn't LFR added for Firelands or Dragon Soul?
>>334715194
It was LFG, not LFR, that came out towards the end of WotLK.
The only part of WotLK that was really good was Ulduar. The rest was pretty average.
>>334715031
>True tanking stats
They removed crushing blows in WotLK, you no longer needed to stat approriately to be uncrushable.
>Heirlooms
Huh, pretty sure I remember getting those in Dalaran, you know, the WotLK town
>Welfare epics
Easier to get, starting in WotLK, with LFG
>LFR
Okay, so that one came out at the end of the expansion instead of at the start, big whoop
>Server exclusivity got ruined
That might've been closer to the end, too, but I still recall seeing other people from servers appearing around major cities
>battlegroups
Pretty with the server exclusivity I hated it. Battlegroups should only be relevant in BG's, and Arenas.
>2v2 removed
Pretty sure that was WotLK.
>>334715028
>>334714993
What is crushing damage?
>>334715384
I know, I accidentally pressed R instead of G and everyones jumping on me.I know they won't believe it was just a typo
>>334712748
>could barely reach 150k before petitions slowed
>WOW COMMUNITY GOING INSANE MOMS GONNA FREAK LOOK AT THESE GUYS FIGHTING FOR THEIR RIGHT TO GAME
absolutely hilarious every time
Employee: S-sir, may I speak to you
*Morhaime sighs loudly as he is forced to stop playing gold brick Jenga, because of the office's open doors policy*
M: "Yeah?"
E: "I-I have this petit-"
M: "Let me stop you right there and ask you something: Do you live in a mansion with a jacuzzi in the backyard"
E: "N-no, but a lot of people who like WoW sign"
M: "Pretend you live in a locale like that for a second, instead of focusing on the reality that you live in a fucking dingy apartment and you eat toast for all of your lunches"
M: "And the way you live like that is that you have more than one fucking source of money"
E: "B-but Warcraft is the soul of bl-"
M: "What the fuck is wrong with you?! WoW is a money vacuum that robs autists of their income, because they like repeating repetetive tasks and the world is just a source of comfort for their variety hating retard asses"
M: "If they have something that does it for free, I have to change champagne brands to a slightly cheaper one to bathe in and I don't see why I would have to bear with that"
>>334715476
>i was just pretanding to be reatarded
okay I signed it, when does the vanilla server start?
>>334715442
>they removed crushing blows in WotLK
Are you sure about that? I remember gearing up my DK tank as my first tank, and had to work my way up to 540 or get crushed.
Or are you talking about the pre-cata patch at the very very end of WotLK?
Only 40k more guys
If they were to release legacy servers, wouldn't they have to release servers for every expansion, every region/language, and PVP/RP/PVE servers too?
>>334715194
There is so much wrong with Wrath that continued into the later expansions and killed the game.
>>334715254
They've been intentionally sabotaging their own expansions since Cata.
Wrath Of The Lich King total dungeon/raids: 16/9
Wrath - http://us.battle.net/wow/en/zone/#expansion=2
Cataclysm dungeons/raids: 14 if you count the 85 HC remakes and shit/6
Cata - http://us.battle.net/wow/en/zone/#expansion=3
Pandas dungeons/raids 9 if you count HC level 90 remakes of old content/5 and how many months of SoO?
Pandas - http://us.battle.net/wow/en/zone/#expansion=4
WoD dungeons/raids 8/3
WoD - http://us.battle.net/wow/en/zone/#expansion=5
Unless you PvP'd or autistically went around getting achievements there was literally nothing for you to do in Pandas/WoD after about 3-5 months
>>334715442
heirlooms were introduced during wotlk. you could buy pve heirlooms with badges, and pvp heirlooms from the pvp zone in northrend.
LFR didn't come out until dragonsoul in cata. that's at the very end of cata......
server exclusivity wasn't breached until MOP. until then, you couldn't even party with people on your friends list on different servers.
they did remove 2v2 from rbgs in wotlk because arenas were still an esport and they couldn't balance 2s,3s, and 5s
the outrage is already fading, this petition won't even reach the 200k and will validate blizzard's wrong opinion that there's no need for legacy servers
>>334715627
As of Wrath-Logo-Small Wrath of the Lich King, the crushing blows mechanism have been changed. Now only mob four level higher than you can deal crushing blows. Therefore, uncrushability is irrelevant for raids in Wrath of the Lich King and the avoidance stats below are no longer necessary.
>>334715763
Server Exclusivity was breached the moment that LFG hit, but it got worse with xrealm grouping at the end of Cata
>>334713459
Thanks doc
>>334715758
Being lazy cunts and making half-baked expansions isn't really the same as working on an expansion and offering something people prefer over anything new.
I don't hate the idea of legacy servers, I would actually like a trip down nostalgia lane, but the idea of rehashing and re-making shit just seems pointless to me. It's like that PPG reboot or the new Doom, it sounds like it would be simple like how Nostalrious did it, but Blizzard tends to have different ideas on how to do things. Take D3's artstyle for example.
I just don't really trust them to touch anything made in the past, I'd rather they do something new that won't tarnish an already existing memory. Legion might suck, but at least it's not destroying any memories I have with old WoW.
>>334715856
>the outrage is already fading
It's really not.
The petition signatures went up the fastest yesterday, was ridiculous how fast it went from 120k~ to 150k
>its a nostalrius click bait title tier thread
>>334716079
I think my main complaint with WoW besides content where is the scaling.
Every expansion after Wrath the scaling on damage/healing/HP was stupid. I think in Wrath you could top a tank out with maximum cheese all raid buffs/pots/feasts/CDs at what, 100K tops if they're a Warrior? Then Cata came out and I saw people walking around with 300K HP unbuffed. I quit in Cata so I'm not sure about Pandas but I saw some YouTube videos where dudes were hitting for 14 million in PvP.
The Warlords stat quish worked for a little bit, you slowly felt your damage going up as you went from 80-100 but once you hit 100 and did raids or HC dungeons you DPS went from 20K to easily 40K then the very next patch 80+K. Scaling is fucking hard for Activision-Blizzard
>>334715894
the game always had battlegroups
lfg pulled from your battlegroup only. I don't see any problems
>>334716657
It was much better putting together your own group, navigating to the instance, and completing it.
It was all on your sever, you gained a rapport, and made new friends you'd often see around.
>>334714529
You're a little faggot and you should leave, I can smell it from your posts somehow (I'm not talking shit about Command and Conquer, I just know lots of little faggots like this guy who claim to love C&C but are complete shit at the game)
I bet you like trains
>>334716803
Like, yeah I was pretty shit at it. I did the campaign, and fucked around on the offline scrimmage mode.
I never really had an opinion on trains though, to be honest. Like, they're cool I guess.
>go to burger place
>order original burger
>tastes good, know what's in it, this is good
>go to burger place next week
>the ingredients have changed
>bland bread, overcooked meat, sauce is generic shit
>ask burger smith to change back to the old burger
>"you think you want that burger but you dont."
>burger smith charges you extra for this burger
>quit burger subscription and eat at other burger place
simple
>>334716993
Exactly what I had to do with Red Baron pizza's when they changed the recipe years ago.
>mfw they release a new crust type, and I try it out with hopes and dreams it will be exactly what they took away from me years ago.it never is
Different aspects of the game died or began dying in each expansion, some as early as Vanilla. For instance, the introduction of battlegrounds dramatically reduced world PvP, and cross-server began with 1.12. In general, the game drifted away from its more free form, sandboxy ambitions (in practice it was never even remotely a sandbox, but the thought was there at one point) and became more of an endgame-driven themepark as the patches went on.
TBC was the first time old content became largely invalidated, with a massive gear leap and a completely self-contained new continent which encouraged newer players to race towards 58 rather than take their time leveling. 5-mans were now completely linear and streamlined. The old world depopulated somewhat and given the difficulty of finding groups for quests, world elites were almost universally nerfed and dungeons were toned down in 2.3. Flying was the final nail in the coffin for world PvP, and that needs no explanation. 2.4, the Sunwell patch, was also the first time previous raid content became obsolete with the release of a new raid tier, as you could now farm badges to get gear that was as good as what you'd find in Hyjal or BT.
WotLK was where all the class homogenization began (was not yet completely solidified) and crowd control ceased to be necessary outside of PvP, making most 5-mans hilariously easy. This was also the expansion when new badges were continually added to allow players to skip straight to the next raid tier. Optional 10 and 25 man modes meant Blizzard could release less raids and let smaller guilds do easier versions of everything, whoopdie fuckin doo. The final content patch, ICC, not only added modern cross-server+teleports LFD (fuck leaving the city), but it was also the first time raid content was gated to prevent top guilds from clearing the content in one night and draw out the shitty machinima THERE MUST ALWAYS BE A LICH KING.
Cataclysm fucked literally everything else you can think of.
Dont forget to sign the petition guys
>>334717096
>tfw your favourite chain comes out with THAT promotional item
>it's literally perfect, the flavour, the texture, the spice
>two months later its replaced with shitand it never comes back
>>334717363
>implying anyone gives a shit now that legion release date has been announced
>>334713958
>Starcraft was meh
>>334717269
but you're wrong
rbg's were the first instance of teleported cross server.
it was only fair that pve got the same benefit as pvp right?
>>334717557
FUCKING SPICY CRUNCH BURRITO FROM TACO BELL WHY THE FUCK DID YOU GET RID OF IT YOU FUCKS
You could get a million signatures, they aren't going to release a legacy server with their new wow expansion coming out in a few months
Mods need to start pruning Nost threads.
>>334713958
>Starcraft was meh
>>334717701
Haha. Look twitter comments.
>>334717701
>still four months of HFC
boy, blizzardrones
>>334717767
bring it in anon,she's gone forever
>>334718009
>>334717705
sorry man, just wasn't into C&C ripoffs like you guys.
Only reason I even played the game, was because I had a crush in 7th grade that said she liked to play it.
>>334717269
>themepark
>sandbox
I love these meaningless meme words!
>>334714304
>removed 2v2 from rated arenas
good, it's fucking shit anyway.
>>334713421
Nah, ill just keep reporting all private servers as usual
>>334718058
Those spicy nacho strips, the sour cream and cheese sauce, ground "beef", all in perfect ratios and just the right amount of thickness. Used to eat those all the fucking time, haven't been back there since.
>>334718221
2's was the most precise form of rated Arena's in the game.
>>334718409
Of course you can. But the petition is for an Official server Vanilla :) Then you shloud sign it.
>>334715627
These are the wannabe veterans that sign these petitions.
Defense as a stat was removed in wotlk
>>334716202
Wow, bots and eceleb cocksuckers.
Wew lad
>>334718525
Nah. Why would i want blizzard to split their efforts between live and a shit version of the game that maybe 5k people would pay to play
Holy shit i love nost and vanilla wow but stop making this thread over and over. It always devolves into the same shit.
>>334715237
>that empty org
>>334717772
This. Don't expect legacy servers unless legion bombs
>GIMME BACK MUH FREE WORLD OF WARCRAFT
I can't believe we are still getting these threads
>>334718876
To open 1 server dont requires a lot of work.
Expacs are releasing at a faster rate with less content and a higher price. No one should still be playing retail unless you like getting bent over by Activision.
>>334719206
>To open 1 server dont requires a lot of work.
Nice English, Russia
>>334719309
French actually ;)
>>334719395
>french
holy shit, kill yourself
>>334718160
They represent two completely opposite design philosophies.
>>334719571
Dont be rude please.
I'd love them to do vanilla servers. Of course there will be a sub, and it will never get new content. It'll be dead in half a year, and that's optimistic.
>>334719793
>mfw the vanilla legacy server gets expanded to be BC inclusive
>mfw the legacy server is just retail but 5 expansions behind
https://youtu.be/mBsIKWTreGQ
>>334719685
im sorry but i dont like french
no offense
>>334717557
I just want the spicy chicken crunchwrap back. The regular one is fine, but the spicy chicken was superior.
why dont WoWfags just play Guild Wars 2? that game is win.
Lets go, wow players! Lets sign our petition :)
>>334721172
But is it epic?
Epic for the win?
>>334720774
You probably dont know them all ;)
>>334712748
Hi there. Would you like to sign my petition?
>>334715058
>>334718221
git gud
Blizzard is retarded for not providing legacy servers. They have a legion of idiots that are ready to give Blizzard free money. They could charge $20 a month for legacy server access and people would pay it. There's literally zero reason for Blizzard to not have legacy servers.
Why are so many people here suddenly in favor of Blizzards douchebaggery and general jewness? 2-3 years ago /v/ would be in a white hot autistic rage over this
>>334713261
its not their decsisions
its Activisions
and every time activision decided WE WANT CASH
they just fuck everyone over.
on quick math, assuming people that played nost didnt play wow then blizz made nost an official server for them
assuming 150000 people came to play (out of the 800000accounts) at $15 sub fee a month, for a full year, its like 27 million dollars
but for some reason they gotta shut down nost who's making 0 profit lmao xD
activision has ruined blizzard
>>334721705
just because a ton of people played a FREE private server does not mean they will play a subscription based retail server.
With maintenance costs, it would likely cost money to open and maintain MUH LEGACY servers
>>334721705
do you have evidence to prove that people will pay a monthly sub for legacy servers?
>>334713382
they did it in france because they didnt expect it to get so big in a year.
they said if they were to do it again they'd go to Germany or Russia though, and they're willing to release all the server info (including account shit) to anyone willing to continue nost, so someone else can host it all and people dont lose progress/gear/characters etc.
>>334721878
Such a server would be the biggest server Warcraft had ever seen.
>>334721939
Legacy EQ had sub fees people payed.
>WAHHHHHH HOW DARE BLIZZARD SHUT DOWN A SERVER OFFERING THEIR GAME FOR FREE AND LITERALLY STEALING CUSTOMERS FROM THEM
Blizzard had every fucking right to do this
>>334721286
i live in germany in baden-württemberg
near french boarder
>>334722140
That doesnt change anything on what i said :)
>>334722038
EQ is an entirely different animal
t. everquest/ffxi/lineage/wow/ffxiv player
>>334715551
It's not a blizz employee who's gonna take it to them
It's one of the ex-vanilla devs
An ex-vanilla dev who hasnt touched WoW since they put out vanilla, but still supports the idea of legacy.
An ex-vanilla dev who thinks that blizzard have fucked up with the game in recent years.
Ax ex-vanilla dev, who was the fucking wow lead during vanilla.
I'm sure Micky Morieme would listen to the man that literally made WoW good in the first place.
>>334721939
>>334722319
Well you should talk to people who run private servers of any old game. Most will tell you that people will throw money at them. It's not hard to do either.
Reminder that this is the Nostalrius audience
>>334722242
yeah i actually misread what you said
i thought you wrote "you probably dont know any french"
im actually retarded
>>334721878
>just because a ton of people played a FREE private server does not mean they will play a subscription based retail server.
Those people were playing on a private server because the official servers weren't providing the product they wanted. They'd pay for official legacy servers.
>With maintenance costs, it would likely cost money to open and maintain MUH LEGACY servers
You're an idiot. Server maintenance is incredibly cheap compared to the $15 a month Blizzard charges for official WoW.
>>334721939
>do you have evidence to prove that people will pay a monthly sub for legacy servers?
People paid a monthly subscription for Vanilla. There's a large demand for Vanilla servers. There's also the fact that people who play MMOs are easy to fleece for money.
>>334722472
Is that a mouth full of semen? Lewd.
Why does people wanting legacy servers throw /v/ into such an autistic rage?
>>334722565
>some would. i wouldn't cause fuck blizz.
>you are correct
>>334722767
Yes full of semen of blizzard devs
>>334722893
Because "play your way" only applies if you don't like playing MMOs.
>>334722987
Gross.
>>334722893
Because /v/ is full of casual, blizzard nut sucking newqueers whose first time playing wow was during wrath.
>>334722565
>They'd pay for official legacy servers.
Yes lemme get out my check book on the estimates of an internet warrior. Do you not think bli$$ard, a multi billion dollar company, have done market research on this? Did you take a moment to use your peewee brain to think that blizzard might have compared "Profits from legacy servers" vs "Cost of losing current players to legacy over the years and then forever + cost of running the servers"??.
Nah who am I kidding. A company whose sole purpose is to make money is definitely not pursuing the "profitable" route (according to you) just because they want to spite off their customer base. Fucking idiots
I think the biggest issue is legacy-fags really underestimate how much money and work setting up the legacy servers would be. They seem to think setting up a vanilla wow server would take them like 4 hours of work and cost them $15 a year to run but it doesn't fucking work like that.
>>334723124
it's still profitable and you make no strong points
>>334716993
But every few years the Burger Smith offers you a new experience of the burger,
He adds a layer of burger, for the low low price of $60 entry level, $80 if you wanna go deluxe edition and get something special, like a keyring.
At first he added glorious cheese to the burger.
Next Time he changed the buns to be fluffy and golden at the same time, while holding all the burger together like a glove.
The third time thought, he started to put onion in the 100% beef burger. You dont mind onion, but you prefered the taste of the 100% beef burger.
The next time he changes the glorious cheese to be plastic cheese. and all buns come in the shape of a pandas face. You expect it to be a funny gimmick that'll last a couple weeks, then go back to normal. But no. It stays, so you go somewhere else.
Till he comes along and offers you a new burger. An outer world experience, so to speak. You try this burger, with so much promise. This burger is gonna pay off your fucking mortgage. No. This burger gives you a fucking garrison. And you dont leave the garrison, ever. Unless you want to roleplay.
This time, the chef has promised everything you could've imagined from your wildest dreams.
Redemptionfor illidanand to defeat the one thing making everything shit.
You line up, ready for the most glorious burger that the burger smith has ever created. Expecting a taste sensation not even Gordon Ramsay and Marco Pierre White's combined efforts could create.
You're watching him make the burger.
It looks like he has the old buns again. It looks like its the old patties, with no onions. It even looks like the heavenly cheese from before.
But this time. He has a new secret to it.
He puts a black bandana around the burger.
You think its cool.
You dont mind it.
You prepare yourself to roleplay. You get down on all 4s for mighty burgersmith, and open your mouth as wide as you can.
All you have to do now is bite into that burger and taste--
30th of august.
Fuck you.
>>334723057
>losing players
Most modern MMO players would play legacy for the novelty of it for a month and then promptly return to modern.
>>334722523
>The nigger calls the muslims subhuman.
>>334712748
>never played wow because fuck subscription gaming
>I'm not going to play a game out of obligation because I'm paying for it by the minute
>all this butthurt and drama
You all deserve it for falling for the scam in the first place
>>334723124
Still, the volunteer Nostalteam did it...
>>334723441
was a buggy mess. while some vanilla bugs are funny, many of them jsut made life difficult
>>334723541
like official vanilla was bug free.
get real.
>>334723124
so hard for a team of 30 volunteers at max to run a server out of their own pocket and recode it so that servers that were meant for 2000 people could handle 10000 people
waaaaa
go back to your fucking c++ basic starter guide you fucking faggot.
If blizzard monetized on Nost, getting only 150,000 of the 800,000 people paying a $15 sub for a year thats $27mil.
It easily pays for itself and theres literally a team of 30 disenfranchised nost devs who are doing fuck all now that they arent working on nost.
>>334723124
>>334723541
It would be more work than that, naturally but for a billion dollar company it's really not even a concern. They could make it possible very, very easily and painlessly if they wanted to.
>>334723704
it wasn't 'free'. they took donations and likely got a cut from the goldsellers
>>334723745
Some french faggots running off donations did it in their basement. It really shouldnt be an issue and Blizzard could spin out like "for the fans", get some good PR but nah.
>>334724108
They only took money to pay for the server itself.
the majority of the money came out of pocket and they did no shady dealings with any parties.
It's literally all out in the open for everyone to read
Even Sodapoppin, the moral compass for selling out, knows nost was doing it legit and not being scummy.
>>334724194
Its almost free to do, but Blizzard will earn a lot.
>>334713958
>starcraft was meh
What, too hard for you?
>>334712748
>163k
not bad, I thought this would die at 100k at most
>>334715627
540 defense was still relevant, not because of crushability, but to remove crits from the hit table.
>>334716784
And LFD did nothing to stop you from keep doing that. It wasn't until Blizzard nerfed the difficulty of dungeons, heroic or otherwise, into the ground that the social aspect you're talking about got completely smashed.
Not gonna lie, I never thought the petition would garner 150K signatures. I signed it ironically at 10,000 thinking it wouldn't go anywhere, but coverage from nearly every major news outlet and almost 200K signatures is nothing to scoff at. Whether Blizzard caves or not, they'll have to issue a statement before long.
>>334724339
Nah, too C&C ripoffy for me.
>>334713037
>repeal a ban
>thinking its a ban
Nigger its a cease and desist, light years ahead of a simple "ban"
also
Did you shills say "they'd never bring back nost/legacy servers"
Who cares what we do then?
https://twitter.com/Grummz/status/722131297775149056
where are the food comments
>>334724194
You need to remember that it has to fit in with their franchise as well. Put it on their website, do technical and customer support for it, have GMs dedicated to it and so on.
On Nost. it was self-policing because everyone understood that it was a private server and that if something didn't work you were SOL. If it's a blizzard server they need to make sure it works and works well otherwise they look like fools. And that's not to mention all the drama surrounding RMT and so on.
>>334712748
NOSTBOYS NEVER SAY NEVER
REEEEEEE
>>334713418
>thinking a cease and desist is a lawsuit
if they kept going they'd be sued
a cease and desist is literally that
Stop doing what you are doing... or else
>>334724408
So it really was too hard for you eh? That's too bad.
I heard Blizz made a moba where even people like you can compete in the multiplayer.
>>334724475
i've signed it several times with obviously fake and trolly names so it undermines the legitimacy of the 'petition'
>>334724497
NOSTBOYS ARE NEVER LOST
>>334724492
>You need to remember that it has to fit in with their franchise as well. Put it on their website, do technical and customer support for it, have GMs dedicated to it and so on.
Oh they can, unno not? They can make it damn clear if they release a legacy server that its not getting content or much support. Just like the self-policing on Nost.
That being said, the billionaire company milking the fuck out of their products can easily do all of that for a couple legacy servers.
>>334724547
A signature is a signature, faggot.
Blizzard makes games for an online community that is known for having good guys and assholes in it.
If a signature called "GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW" they'll just go, wow this guy sure is a funny troll haha. We'll just say he didnt want his information shared and only show his initials of G. T. N."
change.org links should be spam filtered on 4chan
yes/yes?
>>334724804
you can't have what you want. just because you want something doesn't mean it should be given to you.
take your armchair business savvy and make your own shit and sell it
>>334724841
start a petition and get the signatures :^)
>>334724706
This
Blizz did it with less money while they were building it off the top of their head
You telling me they can't dig out the old code and fund it with their BILLIONS OF DOLLARDOOS
>>334716079
how is it going to ruin your old memories?
they are still going to be there.
if anything it'll take off your nostalgia goggles to how shit vanilla was, that's the only way it could ruin the memories.
>>334724957
>You can't have it
>why?
>Because
Not even him but you faggots are running out of excuses
How fucking retarded is it for a company to hire two bit shills to tell the consumer what they want and don't want
World of Warcraft Expansion Scores (IMO)
>Vanilla
7/10
Good game, but has some obvious flaws. Most of the good outweighs the bad though. Definitely playable and fun for a long time.
>TBC
8/10
Fixed most of the bad things about vanilla. Still had to work hard for everything, which is good.
>WotLK
9/10
Fixed almost everything wrong with the game. Had the best balance of fun/difficulty. Released the best raid to date. Not quite perfect, but close. This was the beginning of the end.
>Cata
6/10
Started off strong, but immediately caved. The game was marginally enjoyable, but easy to quit.
>MoP
7/10
The last decent expansion. Not quite as good as TBC or WotLK, but close and had a fun story outside of the Garrosh bullshit. Monk was a good addition that was handled poorly.
>WoD
3/10
Easily the worst expansion to any MMO period. Fucking undermines all the core concepts of WoW. Turned it into a glorified facebook game with a substantial raiding mini-game. Begun the era of leveling from 15-100 within the confines of the major cities. Shit on every level.
>Legion
?/10, speculative 5/10
Better than WoD, but Blizzard likely hasn't learned much from their mistakes. The story at this point cannot be salvaged.
>yfw the 2004 edition of the game is more fun than the current one
>>334724957
Are you retarded or do you just make up arguments before people respond to you and spout them anyway regardless of the response?
Oh I know, its because youre a fucking redditor, you niggerfaggot. Nice formatting :^)
go back to where you belong in hugbox blizzcuck central
>>334713261
Same here, Blizzard is dead to me and they'll never get one fucking dime of me. Diablo 3 was the last drop.
>>334725128
>someone who disagrees with my ironclad arguments must be paid to do so!
>>334724372
It did, it made it retarded. Dungeons were all a joke in WotLK, literally never used crowd control once, nor did I ever think it would do anything worthwhile in any of those dungeons.
>>334725153
People actually think that Legion is looking to be better than WoD? The ability prune is what's killing it for me. I can't help but look at the new legion """features""" with total disgust and contempt.
>>334724706
>>334725017
Yeah, the could annnoooo NOT do that but they're a business whether anyone likes that or not. This isn't a moving of the goalposts or an apology for a multi-million dollar company. The people working there are going to want the legacy server to fall within the scope of the franchise.
It would need its own GMs, its own customer/technical support and so on and so on and so on.
But again, is that impossible for blizzard? No. Is that profitable for blizzard? Sure, it could be. Would it potentially damage their reputation? Yes.
Personally I think they should come to some sort of agreement with private servers and concentrate on making something new and good, shedding all of the bullshit they tried to pull since TBC and through Overwatch.
>>334724547
While I agree in a way it undermines it, it ultimately serves to bolster it. Blizz isn't going to look at each individual troll's signatures and contemplate whether they're legit. They're just going to see 200K.
It's like all those LGBT activists who went inside Chick-fil-a restaurants and bought meals with currency that had "THIS IS GAY MONEY" written on it.
Sign the petition please ;)
>>334714304
>Removed all true tanking stats
Oh yeah I totally loved managing like five stats as a tank.
Is Blizzard so afraid of admitting their current game sucks?
Is this why they won't host servers from previous expansions.
Is this why they hide the sub numbers, are they that much scared.
Blizz needs to stop being in denial and get their shit together, there is clearly a great number of people who would play on legacy servers, meet the demand and make money
>>334725514
Better than STAMINA STAMINA STAMINA STAMINA STAMINA
>mfw I'm a much better geared and optimized tank without stamina stacking
>get benched as OT becuase other guy has a higher health pool.
>>334725153
Leeejun is a 2/10 for me.
Rip fordring
>>334725241
>Just because you want something doesn't mean you should have it
>should have it
My wallet says otherwise
>>334725451
>damage their reputation
When did they care about that?
The internet is in a firestorm after nost shutting down
>>334715194
You utter fucking retard, 1st LFR was Dragonsoul
>>334726059
>The internet is in a firestorm after nost shutting down
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>play the game of the same company you shittalked for 8 years straight after they fucked your server up
Cucks
>>334726059
If they did release a legacy server the blizz forums would be instantly littered with "HOLY SHIT ROUGE OP" threads and "WTF WHY DO I NEED A PARTY FOR THIS" and "WHY NO DUNGEON QUEUE" shit.
They don't want to have to run damage control on that, especially with all the back and forth banter between honest-to-goodness legacy players and those playing it for the novelty. And what's more is that players will get a very real picture of all the things they changed over the years, and why they were changed.
>>334718108
>just wasn't into C&C ripoffs like you guys.
>>334726746
C&C 1995, Starcraft 1998
Shut the fuck up.
>>334726317
its been 8 days and people are still talking about it
Faggaronis on youtube are talking about it
if it was such a minor shit show it'd be dead after the first day
>>334726469
>run damage control on rouges
They didn't do it back then, and I dont expect them to do it now
If people want to bitch then they can, they always will
>>334726469
YOU THINK YOU DO
>>334726887
There's a difference between a firestorm and "people are still talking about it"
I wonder how many are duplicates
I wonder how many don't even play, or have ever palyed, WoW
nostcucks are pathetic, you're like gamergate at this point
>>334726887
>They didn't do it back then
They hit rogues HARD in TBC. And the fact that people will "always bitch" (and by people I mean WoW players) is exactly the reason why a legit legacy / vanilla server isn't a good idea from blizzard's standpoint and certainly not for anyone but the people who actually enjoy playing vanilla.
The whole meme of "play your way" and "hardcore games for everyone" simply does not apply to us, even though we were the fans that made WoW popular in the first place. Word of mouth is the best kind of advertisement, after-all.
>>334727195
>at this point
Dude, gamergaters STILL haven't stopped talking about gamergate. If we're still talking about "you think you do but you don't" two years from now then yeah, maybe we're in the same league.
>>334725363
...Let me guess, you didn't actually play WotLK during 3.0.
>>334727236
yeah rogues got rekt at tbc wotlk.
i don't agree for blizzard legacy cause even though it will net subs casuals might join since legion wont hold them and whine till end of time.
>>334727046
I dont even give a shit ultimately of what blizz does, its their shit and they can ultimately do what they want(I personally want legacy to come back)
/v/ is a fast paced board, the fact that Nost discussion has been FRONT PAGE for 8 fucking days after it formerly stopped existing is mildly familiar
I don't want to invoke some sort of godwin's law here but GG was considered "small time" until eventually it did lead to a firestorm
Not saying nost shut down is goinig to even approach that level, but considering how well the discussion has survived the crucible of /v/ its not something that will disappear
>>334727236
The thing is that Undead rouges were pretty OP due to will of forsaken, not so much rouges themselves
People falsely assume there is a homogenous "balance" that can attained
after over a decade the balance is always "off" to some degree, at least with vanilla the glaring problems where there and people knew work arounds
>>334727236
>They hit rogues HARD in TBC
Fuck you. One patch at release where your best spec was combat maces does not = "hit HARD". And then AR/Prep came with the hemo change which was not only stronger than any rogue build prior, but also even more braindead than previous sub builds. And then patch after patch rogues were still the dominant pvp class right up until death knights.
FAGGOT.
>>334727505
omg!! it took me 2 months to lvl up.
wtf blizzard i want faster leveling with my milk.
>>334727596
>the fact that Nost discussion has been FRONT PAGE for 8 fucking days
yeah because OP keeps making this thread
>>334714341
>>334717705
>>334718009
>people that never played Dune 2000
>>334727846
I'm pretty sure its not the same OP every time
>>334712748
>WoW community is going crazy
Yes over their failed life.
>>334727596
The difference is unlike the groups GG was targeting, Actiblizz has enough money that they quite frankly don't have to care what we think, and they show time and again that they don't.
>>334727425
We were face rolling Zul'Aman with a mage tank once 3.0 hit at the end of BC, my nigga.
>>334728132
But the irony is that they do to some degree
if you go down a bad road as a company you lose everything(its a public company)
if you piss some internet people off you get to talk to people at the UN
One actually has something to lose, and the fact that blizz stopped reporting sub numbers is mildly worrying if you care about blizz's IPs
Dont forget to sign and SHARE this petition please :)
>>334728290
If being a bad company with terrible customer relations could kill it the EA would have died long ago.
>>334727642
>One patch at release where your best spec was combat maces does not = "hit HARD"
>AR/Prep (Still heavy combat tree)
>Hemo being anything like it was
The fact that anyone can even suggest this is true shows how far the termites have spread. Rogues went from being sneaky, pencil-dick crit maniacs to cookie-cutter, mash sinister strike repeatedly.square-pushers. Your best build for PvP was extremely similar to the best build for PvE if not exactly the same. Why? Because you can no longer crit, you can no longer stun, you can no longer run, you can no longer hide. You can't tank. You can't heal. You can no longer be a rogue. You can only DPS.
And what about all the other classes that didn't get the same treatment? Warlocks, shaman, paladins, druids. Warlocks were basically unchanged raping machines, shamans were still steamrollers, paladins became even more versatile and so did druids.
>>334728290
>the fact that blizz stopped reporting sub numbers is mildly worrying if you care about blizz's IPs
>WoW is blizzard's only game
>>334728174
Zul'Aman is not WotLK content.
WotLK heroic dungeons during 3.0 were not easy, initially. The continued nerfs made them extremely easy, but they were not intially a "joke".
Why do Blizzshit employees come here to shill their shitty games? Fuck off.
>>334728290
They make more off HS now than Wow could ever make them
>>334728598
Lets be real
WoW pumps more cash than probably most of their other shit combined
>>334728441
EA has big backers and is publicly traded meaning anyone could at any point buy them out and stop being retarded
They need not to worry about going out of buisness but rather being bought out and everyone there getting fired
>>334728647
>When private servers have higher pop than retail
>When bots get banned faster than retail
>When private servers get more patch updates than retailin 3 fucking years
>>334728647
Oh please.
Heroics were piss easy in Sunwell gear (shittier than entry level 80 normal gear).
l2p.
>>334725153
Objectively right.
>all those newfags full of blizzard dick don't know Dark Souls pc port started with a shitty petition just like in the OP
>>334728647
Zul'Aman was BC content, but with the WotLK patch, and changes, it became a literal joke to run.
And, all the dungeons, heroics included were jokes just as well.
>>33472893230 fps
>>334728940ZA was a joke before 3.0 as well. I know because I sold bears every reset.
What the fuck happened to world of corecraft?
>vocal minority won't shutup
>expects they will acomplish anything
It's funny to see how much bandwagoning this has created. Just proving Metzen corrent.
>>334712748
>you will never be an adventurer ever again
You are le hero main character to fite lego
>>334712748
>Sign this petition
lol no
suck one down
>>334729181
still in development :^)
>>334713261
>I didn't and won't buy overwatch(it's shit, fuck off porn posters)
lmao you're so wrong
>>334729361
Still?
Are you fucking serious, god dammit. I remember when scriptcraft was huge, I loved that shit
Dont forget to sign this petition and to SHARE it :)
>people think you have power over corporations in the system you have
This is the future you chose. The west is so afraid of big government that it practically has no government, just corporate interests. You had the chance to create a powerful nation, authoritarian but willing, but you chose to leave yourself toothless against the economic power of businesses. Meanwhile we are ever-expanding, whether the other nations of the world want it or not.
>>334727642
>mfw I mained pvp rogue during AR/Prep era
>mfw mace stun on dual wield maces with stun proc, ranged silence with deadly throw and a fuck long invulnerability with cheat death talent
>>334728836
this faggot and his picture
even gorilla warfare made fun of him
>>334728836
DELETE THIS
>>334721865
They shut nost down because the beta admins weren't putting a stop to chink farmers. And that IS someone making a profit off of blizzards product. You can thank all your fellow nost faggots for buying gold. What happened to muh difficulty, muh good ole days?
You faggots got your own shit shut down for being lazy. I love the irony
>>334730125
>They shut nost down because the beta admins weren't putting a stop to chink farmers.
Do you have evidence of this or are you talking out your ass? This infographic provided by the team says otherwise.
>>334730125
Nobody talked to the gooks on nost
the gooks kept to themselves and were gooks as they are in every aspect of wow
I didnt even play endgame nost and I know that they werent selling gold
Stop getting your information 3rdparty you fucking niggerfaggot
and stop trying to be le devils advocate faggot
go read a fucking huffpost article and spout that shit back to me next nigger.
>>334715442
>"When the attacking mob is more than 4 levels above the target, there is a chance of being struck by a crushing blow. If the level difference is only 3, which is common for players being attacked by "boss" mobs (who are always treated as 3 levels higher than their attackers), then the player cannot be hit by a crushing blow."
>>334730295
Not him but even if they weren't, it's irrelevant. It's Blizzard's IP, you can't use someone's copyrighted software without permission or you break the law.
There is 0 argument from the legal end of this, Blizzard had every legal right to shut them down. And they probably wouldn't have if people would have shut up once in a while about it instead of making its existence so public. All you people saying Nost by name in saying "I don't play WoW, u play Nost" painted a giant target on it, you fucking retards
>>334730495
If you can't be crushed in a raid, and statting to be uncrushable only mattered when in a raid previously, what does crushing matter now?
>>334712748
Where's the petition the ban these fucking nost shills off the board?
>>334731046
That's what I'm wondering aswell.
>>334728836
>>334730095
DELETE THIS
Its crazy whats happening. Thousands of people sign it every hour.
>PC KEKS MAKING ANOTHER PETITION
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