How the fuck does anyone think this is an expansion or a special edition? It literally has different characters on the cover, Americans aren't this fucking stupid as to come to that conclusion, trust me, I'm one of them
>>334705793
Who says that its an expansion or special edition?
>>334707521
Not OP but I've seen more than a few people on here think it is.
>>334705793
it is an expansion though. just like baldur's gate throne of baal is an expansion.
>>334705793
>flynn cannot change his name and is voiced
As much as I'm excited, that's a bummer.
>>334707521
The question was asked like six or seven times in each thread when localization was confirmed.
Seriously though... is this just SMTIV with extra content? Or a totally new game?
>>334708329
Totally new game.
>>334705793
Does this have the same retarded overworld as SMT IV?
>>334708001
why would you think his name could e changed? He's not the player character this time around
>NoA will censor it.
>>334708729
This guy again
>>334708329
Think Revelation route from Fates. Better get ready to pay up $50 (yes, they raised the price) for the REAL (but heavily censored because muh misogyney) story, goy.
>>334708686
Because past games avoided it. Demi-Fiend isn't named when you fight him in DDS.
>>334708001
he plays a major part in the story and you are playing as some kid who start off as the lowest part of the food chain of the tokyo hunters, it would not make sense for you to name him.
>>334708729
tbqh there's nothing they can censor because there's no questionable scenes in the game unless you count the only part where someone big dies.
I could see them fuck it up with memesubs though
>>334708729
>>334708816
It's being done by AtlusUSA, so there won't be any censorship, just mediocre voice acting and memes in the marketing campaign
>>334708901
yeah, but unlike Demi-Fiend, Flynn was his default name, that's why Aleph is Aleph and not "Hero II"
I can't be the only one who thought that Blasted and Infernal tokyo were much better settings than the one we had in the main game.
>>334708901
I thought it was almost an unspoken rule that every protag in SMT games are referred by their titles, not their actual names.
The only black sheeps to the examples is probably Flynn, even Nanashi has a title (god killer).
I LOVE YOU TOKI
>>334709139
>exploring a literal desert
>good setting
infernal tokyo is just normal tokyo but a bit more fucked up, you might get some cool quests and back story but demonoids will behave like normal people if you are on equal footing with them.
>>334709140
You're forgetting Aleph and the protag of If...
>>334709139
Both were really fun, the battle music was awesome too.
Blasted was really sad, Infernal was like Mad Max.
Good means of showing how having one ideology in practice makes one desire the opposite.
So is it an expansion or what? I don't get it.
>>334709378
>Good means of showing how having one ideology in practice makes one desire the opposite
Which proves the White right. The only sensible option is oblivion.
>>334708329
>>334709521
Final starts you off as a kid who is about to witness Flynn becoming the saviour of Tokyo by unsheating the blade of masakado. (i.e. you are witnessing somebody else almost finishing the last game on neutral)
You then did something stupid thanks to Asahi and you fucked everything up, thus disrupting the neutral route that use to be in IV and start off a completely new timeline.
>>334709354
fug
>Flynn didn't get with Isabeau.
>>334709615
I'm not quite sure I understand you.
>the game's getting localized
>they're gonna censor shit, you know they will
>discussion of what to censor
>the obvious elephant in the room has been brought up
>suddenly
>"hey, everyone in this game is white, we need more diversity!"
>everyone nods in understanding
>"i got an idea!"
>yhvh's name gets changed to fucking allah
>>334705793
Do we have an specific release date?
>>334709781
July 24th, 2016
>>334709715
>Atlus USA becomes a smoking hole in the ground
>>334709657
The fuck? he does, have you see the peace ending? Isabeu is next to Flynn, instead of being in Nanashi's group.
>>334709715
the absolute madmen
Walter and Johnny were idiots.
>>334709715
It would actually be so cool to have a crew of like Moses, "Messiah" and Mohammad. YHVH gona get destroyed.
>Mara and any and all succubus based demons will be cut out of the American Release.
>>334711054
Just like in IV, Strange Journey, and Devil Survivor.
>>334711146
Mara actually wasn't in Devil Survivor, but it was like that in the Japanese version, too
>that anon that was proclaiming that this would not get localized because of muh pirates
>>334710848
>Mohammad
Muslims would, quite literally, kill Atlus for it.
>>334705793
I've never even heard of it until now. Is it a sequal? Rerelease with extra content?
>>334711460
Read the thread.
>>334711460
It's an alternate story, kinda like a sequel but not really, kinda like FE Fates but with significantly less jewery
>>334711460
>>334709641
also
>I've never even heard of it until now.
have you been living under a rock for the past year
>>334709378
>the battle music was awesome too.
Fuck yes, A3 best battle theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHPYTkFqH6w
>>334709140
So you'd prefer we call Flynn, "Mr. Samurai?"
>>334707889
It's not.
It's a brand new game with new characters set in the same universe.
Like XIII / XIII-2 / Lightning Returns
>>334705793
Any word if this is coming to Europe at all?
Hell, I'd be satisfied with a digital release like with SMTIV, I just want to play it.
>>334711331
What happened?
Any news on the Europe release?
>>334713242
I'm so sorry m9
>>334705793
Do you know what expansion is? New characters wont made you a new game you donkeyfucker.
>>334711331
I thought it wasn't getting localized because YHVH
I need pictures of Toki
>>334713857
But the plot is completely different, it may be using the same setting and characters, but is still a new game.
Since Persona 3/4 and both Devil Survivors got enhanced ports, I just assumed that was the case here.
Glad I was wrong.
>>334714246
The only SMT game to get an advanced rerelease with extra content was Nocturne, and that one was the one we got, while Japan got another rerelease in 4 years later with Raidou
>>334714246
To be fair, that was the original idea, but they had so much stuff to add that realize it was more simple to make a new game.
>>334714508
And they didn't bother to change Dante's battle theme.
>>334707773
I thought it was when all I knew was the original title. "SMT4 Final" when all you know is it's name sounds a lot like a remaster than it does a new game. Consider also that there were two such remasters on 3DS with the devil survivor games. It's not far out of logic.
>>334712727
>Atlus
>Europe
Enjoy waiting 5 years anon
Post hoys
>>334712727
>>334713242
>Europe
A year and a half later, full of bugs. They have to translate it form american to english.
>>334715064
but it doesn't really make sense to make a remaster in the same decade and system it was already on
>>334712727
>>334713242
>>334715159
>>334717225
Honestly, if you're a fan of ATLUS games and still don't consider getting a NA 3DS, you're asking for it. I've had enough when, one year after the NA release of SMT IV, they still didn't announce an EU release date, so I got my NA 3DS and even saved so much money on games and Limited Editions being a lot cheaper compared to EU (especially Persona Q) since then that I think it was the best decision I could have made. Now all I have to do when Apocalypse comes out is wait a few days for it to be shipped over and then I'm good while otherwise who knows when that game would release here.
>>334717617
P3 to P3 FES
Pokemon Crystal, Emerald and Platinum
Lots of fighting games
>>334708953
they censored P3P.
>>334705793
If they do (that's a big if, because I've never seen this personally) then this is the marketing team's job to fix, not yours
>>334718109
how?
>>334717834
>Honestly, if you're a fan of ATLUS games and still don't consider getting a JP 3DS, you're asking for it.
Fixed that for you.
>>334708393
It's totally better.
>>334711984
>Fuck yes, A3 best battle theme.
My fucking nigga. That theme fits that point in the story so well.
>>334708909
>tbqh there's nothing they can censor
Atlus USA will remove Tiki
>>334718430
That's considering you're not being lazy and have learned Japanese, though. Everybody should know English in this day and age, also, the difference between EU and NA doesn't matter since EU only gets English language options, too.
>>334718646
impossible, without Toki, the second part of the plot will not make sense.
But now that you mention it I wonder how will they deal with the red pot part, she will be probably talking about how she wants silky hair and nice personality instead of making panting noises.
>>334708909
>there's nothing they can censor because there's no questionable scenes in the game
Yeah, loli orgasm is entirely unquestionable. Western market will love that shit.
>>334718863
If you're a fan of Atlus games, you have more than enough reasons to learn moon. It's not that hard either.
>>334718953
Etrian Odyssey makes it over here untouched idgaf about anything else
I didn't even knowYHVHhad a final form until recently.It's Yaldabaoth, aka the gnostic demiurge.
>>334719058
Of course I mess up the file spoiler.
>>334718953
It is when you're either lazy or have too many other things to do that take up a majority of your time, because learning a language takes time and effort and Japanese is by no means an easy language. Not everyone is a NEET (however, I probably would become one if I had access to all the japanese games I cared about).
>>334718109
>>334718401
Yeah, how? I've never heard anyone say anything about that.
>>334705793
>Americans aren't this fucking stupid as to come to that conclusion
Doubt it.
>>334719225
You're right, only NEETs can learn a second (or third or whatever) language. There's been very few people in history who's learned a second language that hasn't been a NEET.
>>334705793
I don't blame our current crop of retards. Just look at the current gen, half the software is "remasters" "Final editions with all the DLC" etc. Yes, they're retards for not doing their research, but art of the blame lies in the marketers.
>>334719252
you can't fuck Ken.
in Jap version, it does the usual black screen thing where it's implied you fucked.
>>334719423
This argument gets brought up a lot. Funny thing is though that the majority of NEETs are as lazy as all nonNEETs if not even more.
>>334719504
Yes because a video game in america where that is very frowned upon and ILLEGAL will definitely include child sex
le ultra censorship boogeyman is fucking stupid
>>334714164
>>334709657
She's literally groping his balls in the group picture.
>EU never
>>334719504
And? It's not liked they censored the part where you, a 16 year old girl being controlled by a 20+ neck beard virgin, pursues a romantic relationship with a 9 year old boy
>MHX
>SMT IV Final
>DQVII
>DQVIII
My poor wallet won't be able to take this much pounding
>>334711331
He's probably falseflagging by asking whether this game is new or an expansion, just to keep fucking you over.
>>334719504
>it does the usual black screen thing where it's implied you fucked.
>implications
That shit was always so stupid because it can easily be not sex too. It exists just for fucking nerds to go 'lol they totally had sex guiz!'
>>334719504
That's interesting, I'll have to watch both versions of that scene just to see if they changed the dialogue any too.
Don't care. Atlus are dead to me. Fuck them. They could make SMT IV part 2.5.1.3 final expansion and it would not concern me.
>>334719423
Come on, don't ignore the first half of my comment. If the language is easy for you, great, but others may not be so talented in learning languages and will take longer and have to put more effort in. You always have to consider the reasons why someone wants to learn a language in the first place. I have no desire to live in Japan so of course I won't make it my top priority to learn a language I'd only need for video games, a thing that doesn't take up much of my day.
English is not my first language, either, but I consider it extremely easy. I do, however, also realize that others might not agree and struggle with it. If you're being smart about something, good for you, but don't expect others to be like you.
>>334719817
>tfw I legitimaly tought they just hanged out and talked for a long time.
except for Elizabeth, she totally wanted the messiah dick.
>>334720004
What did Atlus do to you? Still mad about #FE?
>>334719940
The rooftop scene was changed, can't remember if they outright removed it but they did changed it.
There was also some toning down of what'shisname's gayness in P2ISP
>>334719741
>He still not bla bla bla yadda yadda his 3ds
>>334719772
>Star Fox
>DQ
>Kirby
>FE Fates
>MHX
>Already dropped money on TP
So many good games this yearBut no SMT for us
>>334720083
He's a yuropoor, anon
>>334720007
>Come on, don't ignore the first half of my comment.
About being lazy? I didn't say anything about that because can't argue against it. I actually have slightly more respect for people who just up and admit they're lazy instead of using every excuse under the sun to explain why they can't learn it or that it's a dying language or whatever.
>>334720171
>implying I don't want a physical version
It's almost always digital for SMT if it's released here
>>334719940
in the U.S version, I think it basically goes as normal until the moment where the black screen would show up. Instead of that, Ken tells the FeMC to wait until he grows up so they can date or something
>>334720159
>There was also some toning down of what'shisname's gayness in P2ISP
I played that game in Nip a couple months ago and I can't remember anyone being overtly gay. I know I've heard it mentioned before though, not sure how I missed it.
>>334720294
Reminds me of a scene in FF VI. You know, when Edgar asks Relm how old she is and says that kids grow up too fast? In the GBA localization, which was generally more faithful, he said "Here's hoping you're still around in ten years kid" or something like that. In the Japanese version he just said "That would be a crime, wouldn't it?"
>>334720083
European. Well, British (so I don't need any translations or subtitles).
Atlus are not planning on releasing SMT IV Final in Europe at this time.
>>334720263
Yes and also about the fact that some people simply don't have time to put the effort in to learn a new language because they really are actually busy or prioritize other things in their lives that are more important to them. It's always easy to assume that people just make excuses, but that's also an arrogant way to look at people if you don't know them.
Look, I'm not assuming that you're someone who has nothing better to do all day than to play videogames and therefor had no trouble learning Japanese in a short time. If you had/have other stuff going on and still made an effort to learn the language successfully and THEN also found it easy, then great. Much respect to you, really. I honestly admire you for that, then. But study progress differs for a lot of people and it gets a lot worse when they barely have time to sit down and take a breather. Not saying I am working myself to death or anything, but I, for instance, have something going on that takes up a lot of time and that is more important to me right now, so I'd rather put my time and effort into that.
>>334720743pirate it
>>334720953
I would but I like buying games. I pirated so many on my DS that I never played them.
It's a slippery slope.
>>334705793
Because of its name. See the wiiU
>>334714173
Just as Lords of Destruction in Diablo 2. Which is an expansion pack.
Just as The Frozen Throne in WC3. Which is an expansion pack.
>>334720861
What is your ass so sore about? I already said that I can't argue against you being lazy. My only point with the NEET post was to indicate that people with lives can and have heard languages, even people busier than you I'm sure. I can't help but shoot down bad excuses when I see them. But you already admitted that laziness is a factor, and like I said, I can't and am not arguing against that, so chill out.
>>334714164
>>334720861
You obviously won't be able to learn how to read moon to the extent of being able to enjoy games in just a year, if you have a job and an active social life but you can't tell me that you have not even an hour of a day left that you could invest in learning moon.
I don't waste my time with other people so I got to learn it relatively fast but you really don't have to rush something like this. Most stuff doesn't get translated anyways and a lot of the stuff that does has pretty shitty translations.
>>334719504
He gives you the key to his house and pretty much asks you to visit anytime.
I think it's still pretty implied.
>>334719772
These plus EO5, Persona 5, FF15 and Ys 8
Fuck my time and money though right
>>334719750
He's not 9, that would be disgusting, he's a mature 10 year old boy.
>>334719750
>you, a 16 year old girl being controlled by a 20+ neck beard virgin
Wouldn't "you" be the 20+ neck beard virgin? I'd love to be a 16 year old 2.5D qt
>>334721326
>Most stuff doesn't get translated anyways and a lot of the stuff that does has pretty shitty translations.
This is why I started learning. Only downside is when it's hard to understand things or you have to look stuff up a lot, but that'll slowly get better over time. I'm not master, I started three years ago and have a fairly easy time with most of what I play or read, but there's always hard stuff out there. I had to look words fairly often in Persona 3, more often than usual, and I kinda think it hurt my enjoyment of the game a bit, almost considered playing Persona 4 in English for maximum ease and enjoyment, but I can't do that. I had to look up stuff fairly often for Persona 1 and 2 as well, but I enjoyed them just fine and didn't take that long to finish them (45 hours), so I don't know, maybe it's just Persona 3's fault.
>>334721225
No worries, no sore asses over here, I'm just discussing. I got the feeling that you were assuming everyone is making excuses or being lazy because you're unable to put yourself into other peoples shoes and I really do believe you're better than that. My point was for you to reconsider your ways of thinking about this, what you do with it is up to you. It's all good, man.
>>334721326
I do see your point, but it really does depend on the kind of person you are and what you're trying to achieve. Like I said, it depends what your priorities are. Like I said, I have no plans to move to Japan or do anything that requires Japanese language skills, so it'd be mainly for video games and I kind of see that as a waste of time. That one hour you mentioned could be used for something more important. But that's different for everyone.
>>334719772
Thats a nice list and perharps 7th dragon might be up your alley as well
>>334713242
Same day as Americans if you actually CFWed your 3DS like everyone else
>>334721917
>got the feeling that you were assuming everyone is making excuses or being lazy
Oh no, not at all. Some people have legitimate excuses. It's just that most of the time it really is just an excuse for being lazy.
>Learning a dying language
>Learning a language only used in Japan
And stuff like that are all pretty obvious excuses. Other times you've got people saying they don't have the time when they spend hours shitposting on 4chan.
But yeah, some people have actual reasons, I know. Sometimes I act like a bastard as it hoping it'll serve as the impetus some people need to stop being lazy and learn a language they want to learn.
>>334721917
>it'd be mainly for video games and I kind of see that as a waste of time.
Well, I can understand that, if you're not playing a lot or not playing nip games. Otherwise it seems almost necessary to me but like you said it depends on the person.
>>334722540
>That feel when most of the games I've played for the last year and a half or more have been Japanese games
>Mostly JRPGs
It's fun and all, and I've got so many others on my list (mostly more damn JRPGs), but I think I need to take a break and play some games in English for awhile.
>>334722395
>Other times you've got people saying they don't have the time when they spend hours shitposting on 4chan.
Those are my favorites.
>>334722395
Well, my excuse for spending hours on here right now is that I suffer from hay fever and it is killing me, haha. But yeah, I understand when you're coming from. Sometimes, people really are lazy and need a good push to get going, so I understand what you're doing there. And yeah, it's 4chan, but still, for me, I feel like shitposting is kind of useless, so I usually try to talk to people normally here, you know. Anyway, you're a good dude. Nice talking to you.
>>334722540
I do play nip games almost exclusively, but my pile of shame is already huge, so like I said, if I actually knew Japanese I wouldn't leave my house or shower anymore, so it'd actually better not to, haha. But yeah, sometimes I do play entire days and sometimes I don't play for weeks. It always depends how busy I am. I usually tend to play video games when I have nothing else going on that's more important for me to take care of.
>>334723812
>haha
hihi
>>334705793
The japanese version was called smt 4 final or something. That is almost like the 'definitive' versions you see for other games.
>>334716874
>dump all my hoys
>get banned
>now have to hoy in small amounts
SMT 4 APOCALYPSE COMES OUT ON THE 20TH OF SEPTEMBER
>>334726154
>Sin Megami Tensei IV Apocaly
