a 20 year old game that WILL save the franchise.
>"Leave Final Fantasy to me" - Cloud
>>334686865
why are they remaking 7 before 6??
>>334686865
XV will save the franchise.
the VIIR trilogy will improve on what XV started by using the combat system it had at the beginning and introduce an ATB element.
>>334686865
>Stripping out the original gameplay to reshape the game for a completely different kind of audience
If it saves FF it won't be in the sense you want
>>334686915
I think the question you should be asking is why is 7 more popular than 6.
>>334687016
What sense do I want?
>>334686865
The only thing FF7R is saving is me $60.
Oh wait, I mean $180.
>>334687016
And what audience is that? Before you answer, consider that FF has always been the most mainstream and accessible story-heavy JRPG series around.
>>334687150
No one remembers VI other than still salty nintendo fans.
>>334687150
Caught massive mainstream attention due to the novelty of a long, 3D RPG I suppose
>>334687016
>same characters, story, setting, plot, villains, monsters, music, dialogue items
>BUT MY ATB turned based battles!!!!!!!!!!!!
ya how will the fans cope with that? lel
>>334687372
>same characters
That's the only true thing you said.
>>334687223
An audience that doesn't like RPGs. There's a reason my friends who have been allergic to RPGs for 10+ years are suddenly hyped for FF15 and the 7 remake.
>>334686915
VI was remade on iPhone.
Yes, Square legitimately considers that the official remake.
>>334687372
>music
>every song is going to be a piano and guitar remix like Advent Children
>>334687609
Rather than midi?
>>334687547
>Yes, Square legitimately considers that the official remake.
Not really. Nomura has pointed out that he's 'puzzled' why FFV and VI aren't getting remade before FFVII. So at least one person doesn't consider the smartphone remakes as true remakes.
>>334687630
MIDI would still be better than Advent Children songs. Especially since Uematsu's music sounds better in MIDI than orchestrated most of the time. A song like Under The Rotting Pizza or FFVII Victory Theme just won't sound right with real instruments.
>>334686865
Then they will ruin it with more lightning
>>334686915
Because FF6 is overrated shit that only the worst contrarianfags like.
>>334687150
>I think the question you should be asking is why is 7 more popular than 6.
Should be fairly obvious.
>first FF entry on a non-nintendo system
>3D with impressive visuals and cinematics, first in the series
>for many it was their first FF (while FF6 came out near the end of the SNES life)
>it became one of the reasons to pick up the PS1, an early flagship title
>is actually one of the better FF games
FF7 was a landmark title while FF6 was simply a great game.
>>334687505
>An audience that doesn't like RPGs. There's a reason my friends who have been allergic to RPGs for 10+ years are suddenly hyped for FF15 and the 7 remake.
Yeah, because RPGs are defined by their combat system being turn-based or not.
>>334687985
>>334687150
>I think the question you should be asking is why is 7 more popular than 6.
FFVII had the largest marketing budget for a game up to that time. And still one of the top 10 of all time here in 2016.
FFVI was largely regulated to magazine ads. And building off the niche hype of FFIV.
>>334686865
>Episosdic
>Compilation faggotry
>Saving the franchise
>>334688228
There are so many people unironically defending the episodic releases. It's incredible
>>334688271
it doesn't bother me as much as it bothers you.
>>334688032
Well yeah, that's literally what defines a jrpg.
>>334687505
Pandering to an increasingly isolated and niche audience is terrible business, especially in long term. If they're bringing back people who haven't been interested in RPGs for more than a decade, then they're clearly doing something right.
>>334687875
>ff6 is shit
reported
>>334688271
For this game it actually makes sense.
You do not understand just how much money it would cost to bring an old game like FF7 up to todays visual standards alone along with all the content.
If you're one of those that just wanted a touch up then you're even more retarded since it would be pointless.
Besides, if the price is such an issue for you then just wait for it to drop in price along with all the episodes being released.
>>334688271
Probably because it doesn't matter to the vast majority of the rest of us. When you grow up and can guy games yourselves, episodic gouging means a whole lot less.
>>334688271
Aren't they all full-size games?
>>334688271
>>334688228
each episode has the size and scope of a full FF game. so what's the problem, just means more FF7 over a couple years
>>334688552
ya
ppl forget how big FF7 is...turning it full 3D adds so much more content and time to explore
>>334688468
>he fell for the FF6 isn't concentrated garbage meme
I bet you think Kefka is a good villain too instead of the most complete failure of any FF villain.
>>334688379
>JRPG
>Japanese Role Playing Game
The only thing that separates WRPG from JRPG is that "Japanese" part by definition. Unless the Japs have some unique DNA that commands them to make turn-based games and nothing else, the battle system has objectively nothing to do with it.
>>334688379
>Well yeah, that's literally what defines a jrpg.
Made me genuinelly laugh.
>tales series
>star ocean series
>valkyrie profile 2
>radiata stories
>etc
>>334687150
FF7 in itself is almost a remake or spiritual successor to FF6. Similar plot themes, nearly identical character progression system. The only difference is that FF7 is less garbage because it's not such an easy game that it becomes a snoozefest.
>>334688271
These "people" are retards. They buy season passes, day one dlc,etc. They are the ones who clap while this industry just gets worse.
>>334688941
>Similar plot themes
This meme needs to stop. Every RPG has similar themes if you compare them broadly enough.
>>334689281
Worse for you maybe. At least they are having fun because they are less critical about toys and entertainment meant for kids.
>>334689584
Good thing you don't need to be so broad when comparing FF7 and 6 =)
>>334689647
>Fuck you, I'm having fun eating shit!
Okay.
>>334689647
>They are having fun getting ripped off
If their retarded willingness to get fucked in the ass didn't affect the quality and price of games I wouldn't care.
>>334688271
Each game is apparently full sized, like the 13 trilogy. It's going to have a lot of content added to it.
I'm excited. Can't wait to hear that delicious remastered OST and the fantastic world of FF7 remade in 3D.
>>334689842
>13
>full sized game
>second one was just reusing the same areas over and over and over
I wasn't as gullible as you even as a kid.
>>334689726
Are you so emotionally undeveloped that you go to restaurants where they serve food you don't like and start yelling at the customers enjoying their meals that they're eating shit? You're the kind of person who shits himself in ecstacy when he gets a chance to tell others what an euphoric individual you are for being an atheist.
>>334689923
>have no argument
>resort to inaccurate food analogy
Getting real tired of this shit /v/
>>334689910
>If you revisit areas, it's not a full sized game
nah
>>334689897
>delicious remastered OST
If FFX is anything to go by, I wouldn't be so optimistic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDdDaZuMWko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTod1Cmcuhg
>>334689705
>implying FF6 isn't a direct plagiarism of FF4
>>334689985
Same can be said of this>>334689726
>>334689897
>fighting the Underwater Weapon in glorious full 3D & HD
>fighting it in real time action underwater
WAHHHHHHHHH@@@@@@@@@@@!!!!!!!!!
>>334690070
And? I didn't make that post.
>>334689985
What for do I need an argument when there was no argument to begin with? You're just one bitter asshole that gets upset because people aren't catering specifically to your needs. And why should they when you keep playing their games anyway? You complain a lot, but you still play the same stuff everyone else does. In the end you're just an emotionally stunted hypocrite.
>>334690095
Never said you did, just replying what you didn't.
![barret-cid[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nLSBBQo.jpg "barret-cid[1].jpg")
I'm really curious about how Barret and Cid will be handled. They were some of my favorites in the original game but I suspect it was in good part due to some liberties taken by the localizers. For one thing I'm definitely not expecting them to constantly cuss up a storm now that they're voiced.
>watching Aeris get stabbed again
I dunno if I handle it bros ;_;
>>334689923
The difference is what they eat, even if it was literal shit, has no bearing on what I'm served. But when people eat up episodic games, season passes, cashgrab remakes and all that crap it effects the quality of other games too as it becomes the industry standard.
>>334690154
Watching Shadow an hero at the end of VI in full HD 3D would be pretty sad too.
>>334690109
Nice projecting retard. That's the next step after food analogies.
>you're bitter because you think people who pay $20 for things that used to be free are idiots
That doesn't make any sense.
>And why should they when you keep playing their games anyway?
What games anon? You have no clue what I buy.
>but you still play the same stuff everyone else does.
Again anon, you have no clue what games I play. Hint, FF7R won't be one of them.
> In the end you're just an emotionally stunted hypocrite.
And you sling insults and projection when someone makes fun of your awful method for arguing.
>>334690046
FFX already had lack luster OST, and you posted one of the worst tracks in it.
Let me give you a better example of one of the most iconic FF tracks remade gloriously.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylx7pbPSzkQ
>>334687150
Because it released on PS1 which had the biggest and still growing player base. And rpgs were the ruling rpgs back then.
>>334690314
>mmos value music
kek
gameplay looks funny, that chicken part.
but everyone turns off MMO music and listens to youtube music or their skypechat
>>334690061
What do you mean?
>mfw ff6fags never shut up about 7 not being original
>>334690297
>Nice projecting retard.
You're the only tbqh. I'm not the one raising up a stink over the fact that mainstream gaming doesn't cater to me anymore. I simply accepted that and moved on to new pastures. It happens all the time. Sometimes a shit tier bar will reinvent intself and become a high class Sous restaurant. Doesn't mean that it's my duty to keep going there and trashing the place and shittalking the customers because it doesn't cater to me anymore. I'll just find a new bar to go to. I suggest you grow up and do the same.
>>334690314
Uematsu makes the music for XIV right? But he didn't work on the X remaster, and he's not working on the FF7 remake either, so that's why there's cause for concern.
>>334690604
FF14 has really, really good music. It's the first time I favored the in-game music over my own stuff.
>>334690604
Are you an idiot?
Have you ever listened to FFXI and XIVs sound track? They're 2 of the best in the entire franchise.
Why do people automatically assume everything in an MMO will be shit?
>>334690610
>correcting IV to IV
great job.
>>334690637
No anon, I'm the one making fun of an idiot who replies with food analogies because he's spends all his free time on /v/ and thus destroyed his ability to communicate.
>>334690610
Kefka is part esper?
>>334687875
>>334688468
FF6 was good for its time, but yea, it's not even Square's best SNES RPG.
That honor goes to Chrono trigger.
>>334690673
He composed a few tracks for it, most of the tracks were composed by Soken. There are a lot of Uematsu tracks re-arranged by Soken that turned out really good.
Also, just because Uematsu isn't re-arranging his own tracks doesn't mean they will turn out shit.
>>334690724
Yes. That's the experimentation that was done on him as a child like Celes. You don't remember the level where all the Espers are chained up and being drained?
>>334690687
ya it probably does, but that video isn't a good example
>>334690705
can barely make out the music in between all those battle sounds...you should've picked a better video without 25 different battle-effects interfering with the music
>>334690314
I see your XIV version and raise you XIII-2 and The Black Mages.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxchyP5HPKo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHbYIbleQP8
>>334686865
it'll save me time and money, because I won't be buying it
>>334686865
Jesus, what the hell did they do to your face Cloud?
>>334690910
Ok good point, that's just the 1st video I found with both of the themes in 1 video.
If you're not doing anything, listen to this (or watch if you enjoy the scenery of 14)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-6XLTnqcBY
>>334690712
lol@thinking you're making fun of anyone. If anything you're the poor idiot who's standing outside in the rain and looking through the window into the restaurant where everyone is laughing and enjoying their warm meals. You turn away and bitterly say "I don't need that! It's probably shit anyway!!"
Keep /m/ raging /m/ against the machine, though. Maybe one day EA will throw you a bone. Meanwhile I'll just play games that interest me instead of complaining that everything doesn't appeal to me.
>>334690705
>FFXI
>Good soundtrack
Outside of a few select themes, it was shit.
>>334691072
>he's still making food analogies and projecting
Embarrassing
>>334691187
retard alert
>>334691000
Checked and nice video
>bagpipes in La Nosea's theme
gives me goosebumps
>>334691072
>@
>/m/ /m/
>>334688271
it really doesn't bother me, I can afford to pay for the game in installments and after episode 1, we will all know whether the rest of the episodes will be worth the price tag or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9ySriZOypo
this song made the final battle like 10x more epic
>>334691343
ok bye
>>334686865
XV would have already saved FF 2 years prior to FF7R being released
>"Thanks for everything, Dad. I'll take it from here." - Noctis
>>334686915
>>334687150
>>334687547
>>334687875
Nomura himself asked the same question, he said why haven't they remade FF5 or FF6 and going straight to FF7? So not even he counts the phone version of 5 or 6 as anything
>>334692318
Absolutely B-A-S-E-D. And people say Nomura won't save Final Fantasy.
>>334692136
XV-kun get out of my thread!!!!!!!!!!1
>>334692830
You first.
>>334690152
Barret seems more dismissive and cool in his dislike of Cloud compared to the original, at least going by the gameplay trailer. Maybe they're looking to portray a more reserved anger with him this time around.
Cid is a difficult one. He almost certainly won't swear as much, but the emotional abuse angle with Shera could be pretty tough to handle properly with full VA. I'll be interested to see how that pans out.
>>334687150
I think the real question you should be asking is why are 6fags still so salty over 7's massive success and popularity?
>>334686865
The entire first game is just Midgard.
Just want tell you all about it so enjoy Hitman Fantasy
>>334694060
Most everyone assumed that'd be the case anyway. Personally I'm totally alright with an entire game set in Midgar, it's a great setting with lots of potential.
>>334694156
I'd rather we see more parts of the world industrialized by Shinra i.e Junon.
>>334688515
>For this game it actually makes sense.
No it really doesn't. These game developers and publishers are beyond profitable, and their parent companies behind them are even more so, to the point that they could deliver a quality product without multiple releases or cash shops or anything like that.
It's just greed infesting the industry, nothing more. Final Fantasy 7 at the time of it's release was just as technologically advanced and expensive to make as it would be now relatively speaking.
>>334692136
This.
>It's gonna be FF15-2 with femboy cloud *teleporting behind you* and whizzing about in the air like a prancing homo
>>334694602
Yeah because Cloud was so manly before when dressing up as women
>>334694602
>femboy Cloud
get your mind out of the gutter
>>334694659
he had to do that, advent children is where it all went wrong.
plus there was no air teleporting bullshit in FF7
>>334686865
>an episodic """""""""""""""""""""""remake""""""""""""""""""""""" of a 20 year old game and that is confirmed to have story and character changes
>saving anything
>>334694978
>character changes
>Barret wears sunglasses
it's like he's a totally different character!
>>334694795
No he didn't have to do it
>plus there was no air teleporting bullshit in FF7
Yeah because Sephiroth's final bossform isn't him flying or something
>>334693801
That was always the case in the Japanese version. The English localization exaggerated Barret's behavior a great deal for some reason.
>>334695250
>main character constantly air teleporting
>sephiroth flies at the end of the game!
wtf are u trying to say
>>334692830
>implying Sakaguchi doesn't agree with it
>>334695082
That's not what I was referring to, but thanks for the laugh anyway.
>>334695627
The fuck are you even talking about?
>>334695627
try to think how they reach him retard
>>334695895
no, what are YOU talking about? Why did you bring up Sephiroth when someone complained about a main playable characer constantly teleporting in combat....what's the connection, spell it out
>>334695979
>how they reach him
not by zip-zapping teleporting to him every 10seconds. What are u talking about? are you okay or are u drunk
also that's the final fight...XV the main guy is teleporting from the first hour of gameplay
>>334686865
I want to lick his armpit
>>334696078
>XV the main guy is teleporting from the first hour of gameplay
And? Those are magic abilities that he has, how is that a bad thing?
>>334696940
i didn't say it was bad, someone said FF7 doesn't have that shit and you said "BUT SEPHIROTH FLIES IN THE END"
as if FF7 is guilty of that teleporting shit...
>>334687016
>He thinks people loves ff7 for the turn based combat system.
>>334686915
Because Cloud and co. are mascots now. The average gaming normie pleb doesn't know anything about VI so they won't risk a AAA budget remaking it. VII has a ton of fans, even if most of them now only know the game because of KH or Advent Children, and want a remake because when they played the actual game they didn't like the graphics or the battle system.
>episodic releases
Why even bother?
>>334698031
Because the braindead fankids will eat it up anyway. Square could shit on a plate, give it spiky hair and a buster sword, and the fantards would line up to preorder it in droves.
I just want a game like FFV again, but that difficulty curvewhen the worlds fused together was kicking my ass in a grindfest
It would be interesting to see it as an aRPG, but I still like the ol RPG more. More Gilgamesh and his theme please
