Will there be a huge E3 trailer for this to mark the 10 year anniversary?
>>334686119
I certainly hope so.
>FFXV
>KH3
>possible Tifa reveal
>more Nier
I'm hype.
>>334686373
DE:MD as well. The only publisher's conference worth watching.
>>334686465
oh shit forgot about that
>>334686119
PAX before that, I wonder what we'll see.
Remember to never trust Squeenix.
>>334686119
cheeky fuck
>a game that took 10 years to develop has less playable characters than games that took half as much time and money
>people think this is the game that will save Final Fantasy
>>334686817
go play those games then you childish idiot
>>334686817
Is Wakka the lamest character in all of Final Fantasy?
>>334686883
Already have, and loved every minute of them.
>>334686817
>quantity=quality
Okay then.
>>334686814
>expecting anything significant from website announcements
Come on, anon.
>>334686883
Stay mad XV-kun
>>334686897
No that would be the hotdog loving retard from FF8.
>>334686916
cool
now go back to >>>/vr/
>>334686958
You're right, we should just have only one playable character in FF games from now on.
>>334686972
Nah I'll be right here.
>>334687047
Absolutely
>>334686119
>>334687047
We should.
Majority of the side characters in FF games are garbage.
>>334687047
>we should just have only one playable character in FF
FF15 does only have one playable character.
>>334686817
oh look the autist who can't handle change
>>334687159
Yeah we need more room for the teen angst.
>>334687164
Oh right, my bad.
>>334687274
There are no teenagers in XV.
>>334687340
Or just manchild angst in general then.
>>334686119
Can't wait to see this amazing fresh game! I love seeing new content at E3!
>>334686119
I hope Square announces it getting delayed again.
>>334688003
>again
It hasn't been delayed even once yet. Can't delay something that until recently never had a release window in the first place.
>>334686817
Are you implying with this pic that the cast of XIII was better?
>>334686119
some promo on e3 probably like a ps4 console if Microsoft has not made that deal yet.
And I would bet money if there is going to be a demo that is both closed doors and small titbits trailer to generate hype of the game.
But there is going to be a trailer for sure, if there is no FF console on the western market its going to be on the Japanese market.
>>334688406
XIII's cast was a lot better than people say it is, even the worst character (Vanille) was fleshed out and had development.
>>334688878
>worst character
>Vanille
>not Snow
Get out
I kinda hope they make a reference to backstreet boys or something in the english localization.
>>334688953
>not Fang
>>334688953
Still better than "lequirkyrandumbXD" genki girl.
>>334688215
In that case I hope they reboot it again and push it back at least another 5 years.
>>334688995
How is Fang anywhere near worst?
>>334689018
better than a "ledudebroawesomejobmanXDD"
>>334686817
to be fair.
It was at-least 2 or 3 prototypes in closed doors to famitsu and some other japanese playstation magazine. And there have been some trailers but the first gameplay trailer was not before 2011 and the development was not 100% started until 2012 or something.
Then Nomura went off since he is a lazy faggot that can't complete games in time. So then there was a new director or something to the game.
So yeah, its an interesting development cycle to the game. Will this save FF? I dunno, my money on if its good there will be some word of mouth going on. Some of the retarded Squarefags like me that liked FF13 even if it was shit, will buy it no matter what, even pre ordered the game.
My best hopes is, its not going to be shit I liked the new combat system from the original demo that you got from FF type=0/crew zero .
>>334689193
She is the one I liked the least.
She was annoying the whole time and had the least development out of the cast
>>334689293
Fang or Vanille was annoying? Fang was pretty down to Earth and realistic about her priorities.
>>334689421
Fang. I just didn't like her.
I understand what they wanted to do with her character but that doesn't mean I have to like it.
>>334689623
Aww, she was hot though. That caramel perfect skin, wavy messy ebony locks and an exotic islander accent/dialect in the Jap dub.
>>334689952
>>334689623
Would have been better if kept as a dude.
I hope so.
i want another pre-show cringefest
>>334689252
Well sort of. Squeenix shifted their staff and budget from Versus XIII to work on XIII and XIV, and when XIV failed miserably they had to make two XIII sequels to try and recoup losses as well as try and reboot XIV itself. Nomura also had to work on KH3 and now FFVIIR
>>334686119
They need to convince peoples to buy it even after the awful demo so yeah, it'll be the biggest trailer yet and actually show some true set pieces
Or else the game is fucked
>>334690298
That fucking asian british dude who sounded like the south park character.
Where did they even find these people.
>>334690368
Yeah, I forgot about those team shift thing. But with 13 it was more about the crunch at the middle to the end stages of the cycle.
But I did not know they where also working on 14 as-well. I only know 14 failed since it was a really bad MMO and later it was canned and rebooted.
Did the buying of eidos fuck em up financially? Since I've not really heard anything about that.
>>334686119
Tabata confirmed it will be at E3 so maybe
I'm actually hoping the final trailer will be like a throwback to the original 2006 trailer and use Somnus in the trailer again with most of the trailer taking place at night time
>>334690852
He's a SE community manager for Japan Studios, I think.
>>334686817
Ok faggot XV cast are still better than those clusterfuck autism circus designs
>less playable characters than games that took half as much time and money
You can do more with Noctis alone than the entire cast of any other FF so this doesn't work in your favor, and you can still give commands to all your other party members
>>334687714
There is no angst though, also Noctis alone can still do more than every single FF party can so trying to argue that "hurr bcuz you can pick one command for one character each means they are playable" means fuck all, you barely even "control" anyone in older FFs, you just give them one fucking command for one character at at a time, Noctis can do more than every FF party and you still have commands for your other party members
>>334690852
This is something I notice, he speaks in a very weird way.
>>334691194
Is this XV-kun?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNR_HofJ_Fs
do you guys think there will be a beach volleyball scene in final fantasy: boy band road trip?
gosh
>>334690834
The original 2006 Versus trailer was just Noctis sitting on a throne for 1 minute while some text flashed on screen, then he got up and walked outside, saw some soldiers pointing guns at him, they shot at him while he walked down the stairs, he summoned his swords then it ended.
>Can't do anything with just your mates any more without repressed homosexuals calling you gay
Hammerhead theme is nice, I like that they are using Heart and Gold because it fits the fantasy based on reality theme and also fits the area, also Cidney's last name Aurum means gold.
https://youtu.be/exVkj9WYtnI
>>334691510
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSV35A1cQDM
no homo right?
>>334691534
You can see Prompto chatting her up in this clip here
https://youtu.be/uXS15jEVVnA?t=2m4s
>>334691390
Probably, writes similarly enough and has those pics to back his arguments.
What's going to happen after the game releases? Is he going to be on a crusade to defend the game against any possible criticism? Or is he finally going to off himself?
>>334691820
It's going to be an Inquisition at the rate he's going.
>>334691741
>tarantino
Yeah okay faggot
>>334691820
Shitposting isn't valid criticism.
>>334691534
Hope the arrangement they use is similar to this one
Could even call the Crisis Core dude to do it
>>334691194
>>334691232
Yeah now you can just hold the attack button and occasionally dodge. Not like Kingdom Hearts has been doing that shit for years or anything.
>>334692424
No you can't you stupid fucking cunt, enjoy getting killed.
There is literally more going on in any XV battle than any FF has ever had, combos, aerial combat, weapon switching, counters, parries, magic, abilities, techs, party commands, coop moves, summons, warps, phantom weapons, actual real time fucking combat and movement with actual control over everything in ground and air, always reacting and acting fully in real time and processing more at any time than fucking turn based FF or any other FF has ever done, stop kidding yourself dickhead
>>334692650
KH is still more dynamic than that.
>>334692650
>and occasionally dodge
So not only are you a butthurt faggot who can't take a single bit of criticism to his precious game you're also an illiterate retard. Good to know.
>combos
XIII had that.
>aerial combat
XIII had that too
>weapon switching
X had that
>counters
Literally every FF ever had that
>magic, abilities, techs, party commands, summons
Is this a joke? I refuse to believe even a shill like you can legitimately be this retarded.
>>334692424
>It's a le hold O to win episode
Okay this only applies to older FFs and doesn't apply to XV at all.
>>334692804
No it isn't at all, KH you only have one single combo string and no modifiers or weapon switching or even close to amount of features for each individual weapon can do as well as basic combat flow in KH being cheap and easy compared to XVs more specific timing based one.
>>334692650
XV-Kun, I'm an ardent believer in the success of FFXV and loyal fan of the FF series, but this is going too far.
>>334692916
>and occasionally dodge
>>334692916
>So not only are you a butthurt faggot who can't take a single bit of criticism to his precious game you're also an illiterate retard
So you didn't watch that webm becaues he's literally pressing O the whole time and doing some dodges and still fucking dies, godo job dipshit
>XIII had that.
No it didn't
>XIII had that too
No it didn't
>X had that
X did not fucking have manual weapon switching or even fucking action RPG combat
>Literally every FF ever had that
I don't think you even know what a counter is
>Is this a joke? I refuse to believe even a shill like you can legitimately be this retarded.
Are you? Because those are all happening in real time now with action RPG combat which alone makes it far more dynamic and involving than FF has ever done before
>>334686119
>Will there be a huge E3 trailer
ya for FF7R..
>>334692978
No it really isn't.
>People still reply to XV-Kun
I blame you fuckers just as much as him
>>334693004
>party memberless fight
>AI constantly backs away for some reason
>>334693004
congratulations, at this rate you would finish the game in 10000 hours
>>334692916
Are you retarded? Do you even know what combos, aerial combat, weapon switching and counters even are? You can't even fucking jump in FF13 or input manual attacks, everything in FF13 is a canned animation from a menu, same with FF10.
>>334693123
I think they make him backstep so the big dumb sword won't just go over your head.
>>334693120
How is he everywhere, Jesus
>>334693039
>So you didn't watch that webm becaues he's literally pressing O the whole time and doing some dodges and still fucking dies, godo job dipshit
Except he doesn't dodge in that webm? How fucking retarded are you that you can't even see your own webm?
>No it didn't
Confirmed for never playing the game.
>X did not fucking have manual weapon switching
Confirmed for never playing X either.
>I don't think you even know what a counter is
I do, and plenty of FFs have the counter ability. I don't think you know what it is though.
>>334693004
why don't you make a webm like this where you're fighting with a party?
unless that didn't provide the result you wanted :^)
>>334693279
Probably got the same DNA as baryneyfag
>>334693308
>why don't you make a webm like this where you're fighting with a party?
There is no demo in the party.
Is this the daily FFXV shitpost thread?
How much false information, denial, mustard race begging and autism will we see today?
>>334693358
*There is no party in the demo
>>334693209
In XIII you could manually input up to four commands which Lightning (or whoever the party leader is) will execute in one turn. Nobody ever did this because they just used the autobattle function. You are a fucking retard who doesn't know shit about the other games other than crap you're just parroting from other retards.
when is atr
>>334693004
I don't understand what this webm is trying to prove
They actually die 15 seconds in, and are about to die again when it cuts off. On top of that they don't put a fucking dent in the actual enemy
>>334693385
A lot now that XV-kun is here.
>>334693470
21st senpai.
>>334693334
I wouldn't mind hon so much, it's just that he appears in almost all the bigger FF threads in /v/, shilling his game while shitting on every other FF
>>334693505
That's exactly the point, he was responding to someone saying you just hold attack and occasionally dodge to win.
>>334692650
>>334693004
Nice cherrypicking, but can we see this against another enemy type too?
>>334693751
>can we see this against another enemy type too?
Unless they release another demo with more enemy types, no.
>>334693290
Can you not fucking see? He does a forward slash and avoids an attack because it does a short warp dash forward which avoids a hit but then he gets hit straight after that.
>Confirmed for never playing the game.
Holy fucking shit dickhead do you even fucking know what a combo is? Picking commands from a menu is NOT A FUCKING ATTACK COMBO LIKE AN ACTION RPG
FF13 IS LITERALLY ATB FUCKING COMMANDS FROM A MENU AND NOTHING ELSE
>Confirmed for never playing X either.
So again you have no fucking clue what actual weapon switching is or how action RPGs play, or anything about Action RPGs at all
>I do, and plenty of FFs have the counter ability.
So again here is your dumb fuck retardation with you not knowing anything about how Action RPGs and real time counters work, not fucking picking a command that is called counter from a menu, I bet you think because there is a command called Jump in older FF that you have real time jumping and free movement
>>334694250
QUICK EVERYONE, PICK YOUR FAVORITE FF SONG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrmjSR_hgLs
>>334693443
>In XIII you could manually input up to four commands which Lightning
Which is not a combo, that is four separate menu commands all with a canned animation, it is not any different than there being multiple strikes with upgraded weapons in older FF, that is not a combo and you have no fucking clue what a combo is if you think picking four seperate commands is a combo, you are literally saying FF13 plays like KH and DMC or any Action RPG which all have combos, fucking dickhead FF13 has nothing that even fucking resembles a combo, it only has canned animations from a menu, kill yourself underage shit cunt.
>>334693505
That's the point.
>>334694342
I'll be playing this on the radio as soon as I can fly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvm88uWkvpE
>>334694348
Going to food analogies :^). I can go to Mickey D's, and pick medium fries, small iced tea and a Big Mac. That can be considered a combo. Or order a quarter pounder with fries and a drink and that is also a combo.
>>334694558
>Food analogy
Have you ever been so fat that all you can ever think about is food?
By your own argument everytime you input commands for a party in any FF that is a "combo"
>>334694616
A chain of commands, yes.
>>334694250
>Can you not fucking see? He does a forward slash and avoids an attack because it does a short warp dash forward which avoids a hit but then he gets hit straight after that.
Okay tell me how many seconds in it happens because I watched it again and surprise surprise I still didn't see it.
>Picking commands from a menu is NOT A FUCKING ATTACK COMBO LIKE AN ACTION RPG
It's still a combination of actions. Sorry if it doesn't fit YOUR twisted definition of a combo but for everyone else who isn't an assblasted autist it does.
>So again you have no fucking clue what actual weapon switching is or how action RPGs play
You can switch weapons in combat in FFX. So yes it does have weapon switching you fucking mong.
>So again here is your dumb fuck retardation with you not knowing anything about how Action RPGs and real time counters work
Maybe because the other FFs weren't, you know, real time? Good lord you're stupid.
>>334694348
Like I said before it's a combination of attacks, therefore it's a combo. Just because you don't hammer/hold the attack button to do it doesn't make it less of a combo.
>fucking dickhead FF13 has nothing that even fucking resembles a combo, it only has canned animations from a menu, kill yourself underage shit cunt.
I already explained why, yet here you are still performing mental gymnastics over why a combination of actions isn't a "combo" and failing miserably. Literally nobody here believes any of your shit and if this board had IDs you'd be the laughing stock.
>>334694538
>no control surfaces
>>334694616
Inputting four commands in one turn = a combination of commands = a combo. It's not rocket science.
>>334694657
It is not a fucking combo you utter faggot.
A combo is what is referred to in Action games as attack string, taping button for attack, strikes based on button taping.
FF13 is a fucking menu based ATB game where everything you do is pick a command from a menu and it plays out a canned animation where you just watch
Action games and Action RPGs have COMBOs where you tap buttons that respond to certain hits and you tap these with actual precision and timing to dish out a string of hits based on your direct button inputs, no other mainline FF has this, you have no fucking clue what a combo is
>>334694670
>>Okay tell me how many seconds in it happens because I watched it again and surprise surprise I still didn't see it.
Because you are a blind cunt, 21 seconds in he does a forward strike with a warp dodge effect on it
>It's still a combination of actions.
NO IT FUCKING ISN'T, IT IS NOT BY ANY DEFINITION A COMBO, IT IS YOU PICKING SEPERATE FUCKING COMMANDS FROM A MENU AND YOU WATCHING A CANNED ANIMATION PLAY OUT, THAT IS NOT BY ANY FUCKING DEFINITINON A COMBO
>You can switch weapons in combat in FFX
Again no, it does not have actual weapon switching and not FOUR fucking manual weapon switching all with their own playstyle for both ground and aerial combat with their own combo sets, attributes, tiers, abilities, etc
>Maybe because the other FFs weren't, you know, real time?
Wow you cannot be this fucking stupid, FF4-9+13 are all ATB based, that is time based, they do not have real time movement in battles but they are time based, all your commands in FF4-9+13 are canned animations you just watch after picking commands from a menu, nothing else, FF11, 12 and 14 all have real time movement in battles and are time based too
>Like I said before it's a combination of attacks, therefore it's a combo.
Wrong you fucking cunt, it is not a combo by any definition, you are watching a canned animation play out, you aren't doing tap to attack inputs
>>334694670
And to add, you are so fucking insanely stupid you honestly believe FF13 has combos
Show me any fucking time in the game where you can manually input the commands based on your own 1:1 input and the strike happening exactly based on real time input and not a canned animation that you just watch, oh wait, that's right FF13 does not fucking have combos, it's not mentioned anywhere in the game, or in any instructions for the game, or in any discussion ever about the game because FF13 does NOT FUCKING HAVE COMBOS
Fucking cunt literally kill yourself, you have absolutely no fucking clue what a combo is because you are seriously trying ot say FF13 plays like a fighting game and Action game, FF13 has ATB menu inputs just like FF4-9 does, everything you do and see is a canned animation from a menu, not 1:1 attack combos and strings based on direct manual control
>>334690096
Then play XIII-2
Noel is based on Fang's original design
>>334694812
>Inputting four commands in one turn = a combination of commands = a combo.
No that isn't what a combo is, by your logic you are saying FF13 plays the same as Street Fighter now.
That is all four different set commands in succession, not a combo, you aren't doing manual inputs for any of the strikes, you pick four commands from a menu then you watch four attacks happen automatically without you doing anything but watch, that is not a combo by any fucking definition, that is menu commands.
>>334694812
FF13 just stacks ATB commands, they aren't manual combos.
>>334695014
>Because you are a blind cunt, 21 seconds in he does a forward strike with a warp dodge effect on it
Yeah but he dodged INTO the enemy. So basically I would only lose if I played like a chimp with downsyndrome?
>NO IT FUCKING ISN'T, IT IS NOT BY ANY DEFINITION A COMBO, IT IS YOU PICKING SEPERATE FUCKING COMMANDS FROM A MENU AND YOU WATCHING A CANNED ANIMATION PLAY OUT, THAT IS NOT BY ANY FUCKING DEFINITINON A COMBO
Holy shit calm your autism. And a combo is short for "combination" which is of four attacks in one go, so yes it's still a combo no matter what your brain gymnastics say.
>Again no, it does not have actual weapon switching
Last time I checked you can switch weapons in battle so yes it does. Simply saying "nuh-uh it does not!" won't fool anyone who actually played the fucking thing instead of listening to retards like you on the internet.
>you are watching a canned animation play out, you aren't doing tap to attack inputs
You don't do that in XV either, you just hold O to combo. So by that logic there's no combos in XV either because you just hold a button and watch the animation play out.
>>334695014
>>334695123
>>334695217
>>334695337
>>334692094
Ishimoto's pure guitar tracks are 10/10. Would love him to contribute.
>>334688953
snow was so bad that I couldnt hate him
its weird, what was the kid called? he was a faggot
>>334695603
Hope. I actually didn't hate him as much as I thought he would, in fact I'd go as far as to say he's the second best character with Sazh being the best.
>>334695347
>>Yeah but he dodged INTO the enemy. So basically I would only lose if I played like a chimp with downsyndrome?
And what the fuck is even your argument anymore? That you can do O the whole time and dodge? Guess what, he did O the whole time and died, he did O the whole time and dodged sometimes here >>334693004 and still fucking died, your argument was destroyed fucking TWICE now
>m. And a combo is short for "combination" which is of four attacks in one go, so yes it's still a combo no matter what your brain gymnastics say.
FF13 does not fucking have combos, it has menu commands that you stack, they are all seperate inputs that you build and then stack multiple ATB menu commands at once doing seperate canned animations, you are literally trying to say that if in a turn based game you attack twice in the same turn that that is a combo, that is how fucking stupid you are, that is not a combo, it is a stacked ATB command.
>Last time I checked you can switch weapons in battle so yes it does.
Wrong, it does not do anything even close to what XV does for weapon switching, again you are fucking stupid and don't even know what your argument is
>You don't do that in XV either, you just hold O to combo.
See >>334693004
>>334692650
Good job dying faggot, actually play the game by tapping for manual combos, combo modifiers, aerial combos, manual weapon switching for four weapons, sub weapons, real time magic, movement, aerial movement, dodge rolls, real time counters, blocks etc, holy shit you don't even know what you are trying to say anymore
>So by that logic there's no combos in XV either because you just hold a button and watch the animation play out.
Wrong, you manually tap to do combos while holding O registers the button as being tapped after each strike animation on its own so it goes to the next strike and continues the combo, manually tapping it gives you more control over it to because you can go straight to finishers and faster response, dickhead
>>334695664
>sazh is the best ff13 character
this is the worst meme opinion on 4chan. sazh is the blandest most boring character in final fantasy. fang is clearly the only ff13 character who's actually good.
>>334695393
And FF13 has no combos, by your logic every FF now has combos because some weapons let you hit twice in a row.
That isn't what a combo is, this is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combo_%28video_gaming%29
Which applies to fighting games and Action/Action RPGs, not fucking menu based command inputs where you jsut watch a canned animation play, it's about strict timing based inputs from manual button presses
>>334695782
Yeah nah fuck off cunt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combo_%28video_gaming%29\
This definition doesn't even apply to FF13 or any other FF besides FFXVs attack method.
>>334695735
>a guy caught in the wrong place at the wrong time trying to save everyone but most importantly his son
>somehow more bland than some dyke cunt that has no backstory, personality or development
>>334695393
You realize by saying this you are saying every FF has combos right? Are you really gonna be that guy?
>>334695815
>In video games, a combo (short for combination) is a term that designates a set of actions performed in sequence, usually (keyword here) with strict timing limitations, that yield a significant benefit or advantage.
WOW just like with FF13? Congratulations on BTFOing yourself yet again you absolute retard.
>>334686817
What, no one cares about the number of main chars
that was never a concern anyone had, quantity does not equal quality
>>334695970
Which other FFs let me stack commands/actions to form a combination of them?
>>334695393
videogame combo=/= combination
>>334695972
>WOW just like with FF13?
Uh no because that doesn't apply to FF13 because there is no strict timing or input to it, you pick commands from the menu then you watch the fucking commands happen automatically, that is not a fucking combo by any definition, again by your own logic every FF has combos now, you own BTFO yourself from not knowing what a combo is and trying to backpedal hard as fuck
Go and press the attack button in FF13, oh wait there is no attack button, you pick a command from a menu and then it automatically happens and shows you a canned animation of it, fucking stupid faggot, FF13 has no combos, it has stacked canned menu commands from an ATB menu
>>334696112
You can stop samefagging already, everyone knows it's just you.
>>334696040
Multiple FFs have mutli hit weapons, by your logic you are saying those are combos too, or the simply action of inputting all four of your commands in FF1 for your party is a combo because you watch the four members do their commands after you input their commands.
>>334696120
>what is timing of different paradigms
>timing of paradigms
>timing
>what is comboing to maintain stagger bar
>>334696146
Good job not knowing shit, combo in gaming has it's own colloquial meaning which is specific about timing based inputs with direct manual input being for each part of the combo
FF13 does not fucking have this, you pick commands from a menu, you then sit back and watch canned animations play out
>>334696120
>USUALLY (as in "not always") with strict timing limitations
>It has been since applied more generally to a wide variety of genres, such as puzzle games, shoot 'em ups, and sports games.
You pretty much BTFO when you posted that wikipedia page without even bothering to read it first. Then you still going about how the combos don't automatically happen the very second you press the attack button means they're not combos anymore, and that every FF lets you perform combos while completely and utterly missing the point like the raging and screaming mouthbreather you are.
>>334696278
The wikipedia page you linked says otherwise. What kind of timing based inputs do the combos have in puzzle games or shmups?
>>334696267
What? The fuck does paradigm shifts have to do with anything? All that doe is change your move pool from commando to ravanger to whatever else, it has no fucking bearing on anything you are even trying to say
In FF13 you still pick all your fucking commands from a menu, stacked commands or not it is still all menu inputs you then sit back and watch the canned animation play out, nothing about it is direct manual input or fucking combo, holy fucking shit you retard you cannot be this utterly fucking stupid\
>>what is comboing to maintain stagger bar
Filling up the stagger bar has NOTHING to do with combos, it fills up based on hits you deal to the enemy and fills up faster or quicker based on their on resistances, most of the time faster with ravanger then going to commando to slow down the stagger state, nothing in FF13 has anything to do with combos you fucking cunt
Murrica-bros. Any new info on gameinformer website?
Reminder : Do not reply to XV-kun.
>>334696448
You still have to time your attacks in order to msintain the stagger bar and build it up. Which by timing of abilities and attacks.
So who here is hyped for Kingsglaive? I'm a bit worried it will just be a shameless, uninspired cash-in attempt like Advent Children, but the trailer for it looks really cool.
>>334696357
>You pretty much BTFO when you posted that wikipedia page without even bothering to read it first.
Good job not reading any further and also failing to understand that FF13 does not even fucking match any of those definitiions, because BY YOUR OWN FUCKING LOGIC EVERY FF HAS COMBOS.
>>334696415
>What kind of timing based inputs do the combos have in puzzle games or shmups?
Have you ever played Puyo Puyo? Everythign in that is real time and you are chaining your color matches, FF13 does not have "chaining" or "combos", it has a fucking canned animation you pick from a menu and you watching it, just like FF4-9 has, FF13 has you stack ATB commands and execute them which then does SEPERATE commands as a canned animation that you sit back and watch, these are NOT fucking combos
>>334696468
Most recent update is still the character profiles from the 15th. There should be another one later today though.
>>334696578
No you don't time anything in FF13, every single one of your inputs are canned animations
>>334696761
Cool, thanks. Thread went to shit when 2 autists debate about the definition of combos. XV threads are always terrible.
>>334696797
You do have to time your inputs in the menu. If the boss going to unleash a huge attack, switch to sentinel. If the boss is being hit by attacks, his stagger bar rises, which is a chain gauge. You time your attacks inputs so that they have a bigger effect especially if they are staggered.
In these threads there is XV-kun that is mad sperg cunt and there are other FF fans/shills that are actually civil and respond well to your questions without desperately trying to sell you the game.
Be more like your betters ,XV-kun.
>>334696741
>Have you ever played Puyo Puyo? Everythign in that is real time and you are chaining your color matches,
No but I just checked a video, looks like a generic tetris game.
>FF13 has you stack ATB commands and execute them which then does SEPERATE commands as a canned animation that you sit back and watch, these are NOT fucking combos
Just by stacking commands means that it's a combination of attacks in one turn which = a combo. Again refer to >>334695393 hell even your wikipedia article supports that no matter how much you try to deny it.
>>334697020
>You do have to time your inputs in the menu
No you don't, everything you do is a canned fucking input from the menu, that is not any different than in FF4-9.
>>334697039
You mean retards who don't know anything about anything and honestly believe the autism they spout? No fuck that.
>>334697083
Are you ignoring the chain gauge and the timing for the paradigm shifts?
>>334697141
>You mean retards who don't know anything about anything and honestly believe the autism they spout?
Pot, meet kettle.
>>334697141
Not everyone worship the game like you do, XV-kun. Just keep it chill man.
>>334697060
>Just by stacking commands means that it's a combination of attacks in one turn which = a combo.
No again that is not a fucking combo, that is separate individual commands which when executed just play a canned animation while you sit back, you do not have control over every strike, you aren't giving button to strike inputs, you pick the commands from a menu then you sit back and watch an animation play out.
> Again refer to >>334695393 hell even your wikipedia article supports that no matter how much you try to deny it.
No the definition on wikipedia again is what proves FF13 cannot fucking have combos because nothing in FF13 is a combo
FF13 = pick command from a menu then watch canned animation play out, this is ATB menu based inputs just like FF4-9, only FF13 has you input multiple commands for one character instead of one command for multiple characters, there is no fucking combo here
Action combat like KH, DMC, FFXV = Tap attack button to do sword strike, tap attack button twice to do 2 sword strikes, tap attack button three times to do three sword strikes, tap attack button four times to do four sword strikes, repeat button taps to do repeated sword strikes, this is a combo
>>334697171
Are you ignoring that the stagger bar has nothing to do with chaining anything because you don't chain anything, or have combos, right? You have a canned animation from an ATB menu that you pick and then watch an animation play out for that command
>>334697324
Calling people out on their retardation doesn't mean I worship this game.
>>334697198
Oh the irony.
Don't reply to shills, ignore shills, hide shill posts.
If you don't, you are only trying to outplay a wall at ping pong, it's not gonna go anywhere.
>>334697581
I don't know why he even bothers, since all he's doing is making people hate the game when it isn't even released yet.
>>334697679
Why are you defending faggots who honestly think FF13 has combos? Seriously you might as well fucking say every FF has action combat
>>334697742
I'm not, I couldn't give less of a shit about your battle of autism. But why do you have to shit up every FF thread while shoving XV down our throats and shitposting against everyone who dares to criticizes the holy grail that is XV?
>10th anniversary
>celebrating that a shit game took 10 years to make
>>334691510
Do you and your mates dress up like a bunch of japanese host club faggots with Yugioh hair?
>>334697742
Just don't reply to them. Easy as that.
>>334697915
See XV-kun, this is bait.
>>334696907
Nah, most of them are fine (as much as anything on /v/ can be fine). The occasional Battles of Autism are shit, though.
>>334696907
I hate FF15, but if you fags want to talk about it without FF15-kun. Do it during Australian day time.
He's at school then and can't hurt you.
>>334686817
>older characters
All unique and distinct, instantly recognisable
>XV characters
Japanese One Direction.
>>334698615
>Older characters
Circus of autism, no one remembers anyone besides the three main characters of each game
>XV characters
All stand out as identifiable through more subtle design and who look like actual people now, they are all instantly identifiable because of how much they intentionally stick out compared to their fantasy environments, or even to older FF casts.
>>334698485
Thanks for the reminder.
>I hate FF15
Now that was unnecessary.
>>334698743
Hey XV-kun how come you don't reply to this? >>334697915
>>334698743
Go to bed FFXV-kun, it's late and you have school tomorrow.
>>334698485
Why are you even in this thread autismo?
>>334698743
>implying wearing all black 24/7 isn't autistic as fuck
>>334686817
>FF games should always have a clusterfuck of characters instead of a consistent cast that fits the universe
>>334698880
It isn't since they are wearing real clothes that actually exist, meanwhile everyone else looks like some shitty cosplay meet up or shitty circus.
>>334697581
>you are only trying to outplay a wall at ping pong, it's not gonna go anywhere.
kek, fairly accurate
>"w-w-why would you want to control everyone when Cocktis can do e-e-everything?"
>"I h-have no problems p-problems with episodic releases"
they'll find an excuse for everything
>>334698969
Hey XV-kun how come you don't reply to this? >>334697915
How did Regis break his leg? He doesn't have the leg brace or cane in the flashbacks.
>>334698805
>>334699113
Because he's an Aussie shitposter trying to stir shit up for the inevitable meltdown when the game finally releases.
>>334699221
Maybe the crystal cancer got to it.
>someone posts legitimate criticism of FFXV
>XV-kun goes full whiteknight mode
>someone posts a hot opinion ("celebrating that a shit game took 10 years to make") and nothing more
>XV-kun does nothing
Have we all been rused or something?
>>334699450
Shitposting masked as legitimate criticism isn't legitimate criticism.
Blatant shitposting driveby posts are ignored.
>>334698796
Let me quickly fill in for him:
OMG kill yourself, Kagari! Tabata LITERALLY said that it didn't take 10 years to make! IT took more like 3 years, YOU STUPID CUNT, Nomura just jumped the gun when he announced it in 2006. They've only really been working on it once Tabata took over, EVERYONE knows that, you stupid asshole!
Also, Tabata seid it's not gonna be a shit game, it's gonna be better than any other FF in recent memory, so shut the fuck up, Kagari!
>>334699609
You forgot the part where he's actually right.
>>334699684
That never happens FFXV-kun, now go to bed.
>>334699684
So does XV-kun himself.
>>334699930
It always does.
>>334699684
Well, to be fair, be would be right claiming that it hasn't actually been worked on since it has first been announced. As far as I understand it not much of it actually existed till, like, 2011 or something.
>>334699450
>someone posts legitimate criticism of FFXV
>XV-kun goes full whiteknight mode
This is because legitimate criticism can lead to people realizing the game is shit, so he must cover it up as part of his job as a shill.
>>334699221
>>334699414
My money's on crystal cancer too. They supposedly get really frail because of it.
>>334699996
>legitimate criticism
Where? Only legitimate criticism I've ever seen has been regarding performance and nothing else.
Times like these are when I wish /v/ enabled colored IDs.
>>334700127
Wouldn't need them if mods just range banned ffxvkun
>>334700127
Yeah then "FF13 has combo!?" fag would be laughed and blown the fuck out by everyone.
>>334700196
It's past your bedtime FFXV-kun
>>334700175
Too bad mods love shitposting.
>>334700265
FF13 shill it's Ok, you were BTFO so just deal with it like an adult.
>>334700352
Young man, I'm not going to tell you again. You have school in the morning now go to sleep! Another word and I'm confiscating your Sasuke Love Pillow.
>>334692941
While I agree with you that XV's combat isn't simple, KH's system has a lot of depth even if the game never requires it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc8hrXyG1xw
>>334692015
Exactly. The only actually constructive criticism was about the framerate, and some of the way the targeting works with magic does need to be worked on imo.
The battle system for the most part is great, people just tend to flail around and mash in a lot of videos where it's criticized instead of actually learning how to do things or paying attention. If I had a nickel for how many people ignored the tutorial after passing it in Duscae, I'd have a sizable amount. It's like how people say the Paradigm system in XIII was just auto-battle, and got wrecked halfway through because of stupidity.
Then the complaints about emo boy bands? It's pretty much ignoring the narrative potential of the game, over design choices, when the only honest gay jokes you could make were Ignis' leopard print shirt, and we did the same about Irvine's cowboy outfit in 8, but they died soon enough.
Besides, since 8, we've had the same "this isn't FF" arguments time and time again, when we all know that it'll just split the fanbase again and things will go back to normal, with it being accepted as a FF, XIII being the only exception despite it being undeniable some people like it.
Then we have the atmosphere. Some saying it's too modern. When 8 had similiar cafes, modern cars, cobblestone cities, and people who dressed in modern fashions, and no one really cared except for the same contrarian people who nitpick over anything.
The open world seems fun, the cities are full and from the ATRs, you'll have tons of camp events to do on the road that really make use of this open world, as well as regional events. With the hunts being interesting because they said interacting with wildlife would be like National Geographic. The 200+ quests don't seem like filler.
I would understand apprehensions if we got lack of info like we did in most FFs, but all things point to this being good at worst, and quite enjoyable to addictive at best.
>>334695735
>sazh is the blandest most boring character in final fantasy.
Not as bad as Fang but I kind of agree with you
>fang is clearly the only ff13 character who's actually good.
fuck off
>>334700735
What about a ledge grabbing animation?
>>334699450
He mostly attacks shitposting.
I don't get why because 90% of the time it's just unoriginal bait and stale pasta.
I really hope he fucks off so that you can have discussions again
>>334701129
Already in the game, just not in the demos.
>>334701129
Also legit criticism but nothing that will impact the game as heavily as things like the framerate problems
>>334701318
That isn't even gameplay.
They said they were making FFXV with this trailer as a goal but there will be some things that are not in the game
>>334701318
Sure m8, i knew that you'd post this stupid shit. Next thing you're gonna show me is the webm where he jumps over obstacles. As of now it does not exist in the game so stop making up shit. Whenever something looks worse in older builds like this you all go BUT IT'S AN OLD BUILD IT'S JUST PRERNDERED, but when shit like climbing animation exists in it, it suddenly matters?
I want the game to be as good as possible, that doesn't mean i will just overlook any flaws or make up shit to cover them
>>334701446
It was, back in 2013 Nomura confirmed it was captured from a PC build but it was gameplay, the 2013 version was a prototype build that Tabata led started in 2012, then around a month after E3 is when XV was transitioning to Luminous engine and they remade all the assets from the ground up.
>>334701518
>As of now it does not exist in the game so stop making up shit.
Yes it does, because we saw it in the XV trailer, everything else in that trailer is still in the game.
>BUT IT'S AN OLD BUILD IT'S JUST PRERNDERED
What? Nomura mentioned in 2013 that the footage we saw in the 2013 trailer were captured from PC dev build of the game, everything else in that trailer can still be done so why wouldn't something as simple as that?
>>334701318
The animation is there, but I doubt the mechanic will be available for the players in real time unless it's on a QTE section.
>>334701659
Okay man, i give up
See when the game is out and has no climbing animation, no hidden bosses, no hidden super dungeons, no hidden story events and no hidden ultima weapon
>>334701518
>webm where he jumps over obstacles
What do you mean?
The light parkouring element from ED is still in the game
>>334701754
Yes, but people always post it to prove that he can climb up ledges, which he can't up until now
>>334701753
Why wouldn't it have any of those things? Stop talking out your ass just because you were proven wrong.
There was a ton of shit in the 2013 trailer that wasn't in Episode Duscae and Plat but that doesn't mean it isn't in the full game.
>>334701819
Magic and aerial combat were in 2013 footage but not in Episode Duscae or shown in the later trailers until this year, by your logic those wouldn't have existed in the full game if you based it just on what we see on the demos, yet PD and the later trailers proved you wrong.
>>334701753
Going from no climbing to no extra stuff seems to be a little drastic.
The game will probably have secret bosses and secret dungeons are already confirmed (but there was no word on difficulty)
>>334692424
>Dark souls press attack press dodge easy game
Muh deep 10/10
>>334701753
The only thing that's true in your post is the climbing part.
>>334701753
There is climbing, we saw it in the progress report
>>334702404
Now any kind of edge? Anything? You keep showing the wrong shit
>>334702606
There is nothing for him to grab in that so I don't know why you keep posting that, also that is from the episode duscae demo so again, why do you even post that when it doesn't have even half of the game features in it? Even in that prog report which was shown 5 months after ED came out the climbing was only at 70% done
>>334701753
The last GI article regarding info talked about that, and the one girl who went offroad during chapter 1 found hidden caves all over, with the guys saying fans would be surprised with what they find.
It's kind of funny how most ATRs has been Tabata saying he either tried but couldn't add something or that it's in. Like underwater battle, he was humble enough to say they couldn't put it in on schedule. I do like how he gives each interviewer a new bit of info each time, so you have to watch them all to get every nugget of information.
>>334702404
There's a different between climbing ladders and clinging and climbing onto edges right?
>>334702404
That doesn't really prove anything
Unless we see Noctis actually climb up shit like rocks or the side of the street like the ones in the Duscae demo it does not exist, no matter what you say
>>334702857
I think some expect since it's open world the same type of Farcry and GTA controls to climb stuff. While I think climbing will be in, most high rises and tall stuff will have warp points. I think Tabata said once that each building will be able to be warped to the top.
>inb4 silly vids of people jumping off of buildings or trying to burn people with magic like it's GTA.
>>334703136
It proves that they are implementing climbing into the game, which wasn't in the demos but is in the full game.
>>334702946
The way Sora climbs onto things is the same way he climbs ladders, it's a matter of traction, and even then Sora cor only grab onto hard edges not rounded parts or uneven areas
FFXV Masumune
>>334703592
I doutb the final game will have an actual animation like that, but whatever. What bugs me more is that the characters don't react to walls at all. They have this advanced engine and shown off shit like hands interacting with walls, which only works as a hidden loading screen in caves. Why not have them rn against walls or press against them or slightly jump against them like in Uncharted, it just looks bad jumping against what feels like invisible walls with the same jump aniamtion over and over again like a PS1 game
Why can't I execute when I play the demo.
The button shows and tells me to press O to execute the monster but nothing happens.
>>334704094
Hold it or press it a little later, the HUGE ass QTE is stupid as fuck, i don't know why that didn't keep the more subtle one from Duscae
