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>All hyped up because people say he's hard >Dragon
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>All hyped up because people say he's hard
>Dragon dies almost instantly, takes a thousand damge from each crystal soul arrow
>Boss dies in like 9 crystal soul arrows

Meme boss. Champion Gundyr was harder.
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>goes anything but pure STR/melee in a souls game
Why do you hate fun?
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>>334670627

>Hurr durr close range is where the risk is!
>Sits behind 90 stability 100% block tower shield until opponent is forced to do a move that leaves them open

Real men use their intelligence to win. It's what separates us from the animals.
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>>334670771
>implying shields do fucking anything in this fight/90% of the game
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>>334670771
>Videogame Intelligence Stat == RL intelligence

Magic in Souls games are nobrainers
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>>334670898

Maybe if you pumped some int you'd know when to let go of the block button for your attack.
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>>334671070

Magic users:
>What spell do I attune?
>Better be careful of these gap closers
>I have to survery the area to prevent ambushes because I am bad at close range

Melee users:
>WAAAAAH FUGS NO LONGER HITS FOR 2000 DAMAGE A SWING
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>>334670771
>tips fedora
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>>334670440
>Playing the game different to the way I would play the game myself
YOU'RE D-DOING IT WRONG F-FAGGOT
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>nameless god of war, dragonslayer, with a spear

hang on so is this guy the founder of the sunbros?

is he solaire??
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>>334672478
>is this guy the founder of the sunbros?
Yes.

>is he solaire??
No. Solaire was just some dude. Vaati was wrong.
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>>334672478

Exiled son of Gwyn.
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>implying anyone but wikihuggers even found this boss
you're all casuals for fighting him
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>>334670440
>hyped to face a hard boss
>uses magic

Nothing wrong with magic but it's been OP in every souls game dont complain when a boss isnt as hard for you.
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>DO NOT RING THE BELL IF YOU WISH TO WALK THE PATH OF THE DRAGON

I'm still paranoid that somebody is going to discover the dragon covenant and now I won't be able to get it.
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>>334672806
To be fair, I stayed off the internet all week long just to finish the game one time blindly.

I just jumped on the wiki to find any different zones before I hit up NG+
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>>334670440
Obvious bait
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>>334670440
I call bullshit. In order for magic to actually do damage, you need at least 60 int. So unless assuming you did nothing but level int for your whole playthrough, you were probably way overleveled for him.
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so let me explain why the boss was easy for you

you're choosing a playstyle where you stay far away and poke at the boss with soul arrows rather than up close where he can hit you more easily. of course the boss is going to be easier when you're using projectiles and staying at a distance where you're out of the range of many of the boss' moves. this is a no brainer.

basically, you're making the game easier for yourself. magic the souls games' easy mode.
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>>334673189

Fought between level 80-90 with about 50 int.
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>>334673214
Stats,upgrades, items, armor, and shields all make the game easier. It's funny how the souls community always latches on to something that makes it easy mode just because they don't use it.
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>>334673214

Have you ever actually tried to cast a spell against a boss?

Almost every boss in the game will push your shit in if you try and throw a spell from neutral from anything less than max range, and max range almost never happens because bosses move towards you constantly.
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>>334673552
>roll pyromancer because it's how I started in DS1, figured I'd throw back
>Tutorial boss let me cast pretty easily
>Voldt or whatever his name is does not
>most bosses have huge gap closers that will rape you for thinking of casting
>wind up not using most Pyromancies because melee was honestly easier

I think greatshields might have passed spellcasting as the way to play easy mode.
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>>334673541
this is actually precisely why i play with no armor and no shield. i want to make the game purposefully difficult for myself.

>>334673552
i admittedly haven't done a magic run yet. i've only done melee so far, but i'll retract my statement because i assume you're correct.
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>>334673552
Trying a sorcerer for a new run and it's pretty useless so far, had to go Raw ASS for Deacons and Watchers.
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I know you can play however you want but none of these games were balanced for Magic.
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>tfw can't decide between the swordspear or the moonlight greatsword
Which one is better?
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>>334672882
It closes off the area to the stones

>>334673541
Bosses are balanced around melee. Upgrading weapons just makes you do more dmg your shields are meant to be staggered in melee, you can't block nameless King you need to time your dodges
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>>334674364
Swordspear unless you are some meme faggot
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i never was a fan of magic, sure its flashy, fun, and even useful as hell, but... when people bitch at me about a longsword, plate armor, and shield, i simply remind them of 13th century onward. then prove that i will play the game how i want to fucking play it, and that is melee (usually sword or spear) and tools.
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>>334670440
>I cheaped out a boss from safety, lmao off, kiddies, shit game
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>>334674364
keep in mind its the fucking moonlight, and 98% of soulsfags didnt fight nineball.
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>>334670440
>crystal soul arrow
Stopped reading right there. Kill yourself.
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>>334672806
I actually found it without looking stuff up.But I wouldn't if it hadn't been for a "Huh, could this be a hint?" sign.
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>>334670771
>STR
>shield
how the fuck am I supposed to roll with some heavy ass shield?
My weapon is already heavy enough to push my armor set down.
You didn't really fall for the Havel build meme did you?
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>>334674364
Swordspear is fucking amazing. +5'd it and I have had zero regrets. In pvp people don't know what it's weapon skill really does so they just stand still when I'm at a distance and get thunder bolted for 450-650ish damage.
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>>334672806
to be fair I only checked the wiki before the final boss just to make sure I got all the bosses.
I missed out on almost every NPC quest, Yoel never even got to Firelink.
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These weapons got real anime'd
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>>334672806
i found it cause there was a message in the dungeon saying "try gesture"

eventually came back after sometime getting the path of draon gesture that looked similar to the dragon statue and armor there
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Okay so I'm partway into the game and got this thing for Transposing

I'm assuming Transposing is just a fancy way of saying "Buy boss weapons"
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>>334673973
But your nimble as fuck with no shield or armor so aslong as youre good at doge your untouchable...id say thats easy mode kid.
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>>334675461
Yep
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>>334675461
yes, although most of them don't require souls and none of them require base weapons to upgrade from.
So you won't be spending loads of titanite on weapons you don't use just to upgrade it to a boss weapon.
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>doing some invading in the forest
>encounter some little bitch boy magic man
>two-shot him with my dark sword
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So if dragonking was still sane during the event events of DaS1, do you think he was actually communicating to Solaire and Sunbros via the shrine?

Do you think he was trying to get Solaire to murder Gwyn? Solaire did link the fire after all.
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>>334675562
>none of them require base weapons to upgrade from.
best fucking change right here
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>>334670440
>Champion Gundyr was harder.
Was he supposed to be hard? I one shot him as a str build and I had like 5 estus to spare at the end.
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>>334674876
You're not_____________
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>>334675629
Im actually using the dark sword as my 1h+shield weapon with +9 dark gem.

Is there a better 1h for a str/fai guy like me?
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>>334675807
mckill yourself kiddo
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>switch to a straight sword
>take almost all bosses down to half health with a single turn
>people still have trouble playing with a straight sword pve
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>>334676310
I'm legitimately curious.
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>>334672603
>Vaati was wrong.
Was he ever right?
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Champ has the coolest boss moveset in the whole game.
> i can stab you, but instead im going to sock you in the fucking face and then shoulderbash you into a leg drop.
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Nameless King is one of the bosses that magic shits on, his second phase is only really lethal when you're in melee range. The old demon king is also like that
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>>334676124
Sunlight straight sword I think
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>>334673214

Nameless King has loads of gap closers, this statement is invalid.
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/v/ confirmed for casuals

gundy 1st try
vordt 2nd try
rotwood 2nd try
C. Sage 1st try
Abyss walkers 1st try
Deacons 2nd try
Wolnir 2nd try
Old Demon king 3rd try
Pontiff 2nd try
Yhorm 1st try
Aldrich 10+ tries
Dancer 3rd try
Dragon Armour 10 tries
Ocieris 2nd try
THE CHAMP 2nd try
Lothric 6-8 tries
An. Wyvern 1st try
Nameless 20+ tries
Soul of first flame 20+ tries

Easiest souls game, the tough bosses were tough but too many were retarded easy.
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>>334681260

what was your build
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>>334671376
You remove the threat of being close to enemies by killing them from your safe space. When you can roll to dodge every attack and enemy throws at you, then you can talk shit about other builds. Spellswords are GOAT for that reason, you combine the harder elements of both.
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>>334681260
This confuses me because every boss you had trouble with is one I managed to kill first try. It was abyss walkers and pontiff that seriously fucked me. Dragon slayer armour and soul of cinder were piss easy
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>>334681260
You died a load to a few bosses there. I don't think you're in a position to call people casuals.
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>>334681260
>>334681782
What was your build? I was running strength build with dark sword infused for str
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>>334675018
>swordspear
Are you playing a miracles build?
I really love spears and rolled a dragonslayer spear build in ds2. Is it possible to use this with a strength/dex build
Won so much pvp with that baby.
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>>334681461
>>334681782
>>334681859
uchigatana/hollowed greatsword til washing pole. Washing Pole to the finish. TBF I've played every souls game and BB a lot.

I really want to go back and refight some of the bosses everyone is saying are awesome like MACHAMP and Pontiff I mightve gotten really good RNG or something.
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Where do you get this Dark Sword everyone is talking about? I'm at the Cathedral of the Deep right now, rolling a... quality build, I guess it's called. I have Dex at 20 and Str at 24 (For that Cleaver I picked up on the road, my main weapon is the meme katana, but I want to try and get better with the Cleaver and that Exile Curved GS I found). This is my second souls game, the first being BB.

Thus far, I died against the tutorial boss about 5 times, and each boss after that has had me dying once, or twice in the case of that stupid tree and the retard spin. Hell, I think normal enemies fuck me up more. I still suck ass against the Evangelists and haven't gone back to the area after the Fire Demon that has two of them waiting to rape my mouth after they wombo combo'd me to death. Also, I have a plethora of gems. Should I be using them on these early game weapons? And where the fuck can I get some large titanite? My weapons have been stuck at +3 forever.
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>>334682836
did you find/beat abyss watchers?
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>Fighting Gundyr with a mage
>for some reason my muscle memory made me parry
>It worked

Now he is easy, I had so much trouble the first time I fought him
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>>334682836
There's two darkwraiths outside of the abyss watchers bonfire you can farm for thier swords.

It doesn't take long.
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>>334670440
Magic is literally easy mode. Try using a melee playstyle and come back to us.
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>>334683363
I haven't found the Abyss Watchers yet. Are they down in... the Farron Keep area, I believe it was called? I noped out of there when I saw what looked like Grade-A bullshit waiting in the water.

Please tell me I don't have to fight these two wraiths at the same time if they are the enemy I am thinking they are. They are like the one in the locked room just past the second bonfire on the High Wall, aren't they? One, I should be able to handle. Two at once? NOPE.
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>>334684808
You can fight them one at a time, and they even fight the other enemies around them so it's possible for one or both to get killed and still drop loot.

And yes, they are in the Farron Keep area. There's even another darkwraith if you take a left at the first bonfire and go straight ahead.
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>>334672806
I saw someone on /v/ say you need to use a gesture to get there, and figured the rest out myself.
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>>334681260
you are fucking casual as shit.
Gundyr 1 try
Vordt 1
rotwood 1
c sage 1
abyss watchers 1
deacons 1 (how do you even die to deacons you waste of flesh)
pontiff 1st try
wolnir 1
demon king 1
yhorm 1
aldritch 2
dancer 1
dragon armor 3
oceiris 1
Champ gundyr 2nd
lothric 4
wyvern 1
nameless 5
Soul of first 3

id say its harder than 1 and 2, but only by a small margin, not for the bosses, but how retarded npc questlines are.
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>>334670771

>not 2handing weapons

Why live?
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>>334685940
Someone suck this guy's dick this second!
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>>334686072
Nah, Im good, the bosses already sucked it dry.
as well as the hunreds of fags I 1-shot in pvp. Thunder greataxe clears whole SQUADS in one single hit
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>>334676834
When he copied people that were right, yeah
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