You know, Bloodborne was tough, but at least it felt like a fair challenge.
Never have I felt more cheated in my life than when I played this fucking game. I made it as far as the Capra demon before deciding any more of this would just be detrimental to my health.
Fuck DS 1, 2, and 3. I'm just gonna wait for BB 2
did you try dodging
>>334661767
>>334662908
Nah, I actually tried pretty hard, but I figured it would be better to swallow my pride and give up on the game than to spend hours farming souls to keep leveling up to cheese the Capra demon.
>>334663159
>cheese the capra demon
did you try dodging
>Bloodbabby can't hang with an actual Souls game
>>334661767
>BB 2
Never ever.
>he can't beat Capra demon
It's okay anon, some people are just shit
>>334663487
>>334663891
The bossfight is pure chance after dodging his first attack.
Artorias of the Abyss was more fun than The Old Hunters.
>>334663973
The words of an assmad casual. I too start to talk like this when I get destroyed by a boss, you'll get over it.
>>334661767
>I made it as far as the Capra demon
You gotta keep moving in that fight. Dodge the attacks, run to the stairs and take out the dogs as they climb up after you.
You wanna talk real bullshit? DaS2 has a nasty little habit of throwing mobs of enemies at you, especially in SotFS edition.
>>334663973
Walk up the stairs, hide in the corner of the arc.
You. Fucking. Pleb.
>>334661767
Get good, dumbass. Trial and error. You can't just run around with your thumb up your ass and expect the game to play itself. Thousands of others were able to do it.
>>334664081
>>334664092
>easily dodge his first attack
>whether I'm able to make it to the stairs or not depends purely on the random actions of those 2 fucking dogs
>>334664163
Good for them. Bloodborne didn't have as much bullshit as this game does.
>>334661767
Capra Demon is optional.
From the Undead Parish, head to Andre's tower, down to the bottom floor, run past the lightning demon and into Darkroot Garden Path. Hang a right and head down the cliffs and you'll read Darkroot Basin. On those same cliffs is a tunnel guarded by a Black Knight. That'll take you to the Valley of Drakes. Take your clothes off and RUN LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER past the drakes until you find the rear entrance to Blighttown.
Not far in, you'll find a key. Go back to the Valley of Drakes and use that key to open the door at the far end, which leads to the New Londo Ruins. From there, STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM THE WATER AND SHIT and find the elevator back up to Firelink Shrine. Rest at Bonfire. Go back to Blighttown and take the elevator down to the swamp level. Hang a left and go into the drainage passage and rest at the bonfire. From the bonfire, head back out into the swamp area, hang a right, and head for Queelag's Domain.
There. No Capra Demon. No Depths. And hey, you skip most of Blighttown.
>>334663973
did you try dodging
or wearing armor with poise
or using a spell
or blocking
or using a faster weapon
did you try literally getting good and not expecting to beat everything on your first try you fucking nigger
>>334664218
wut is trying it again?
git gud casul
All i did was abuse the Jump Stab on the stairs.
He can't come up there.
He's much easier to fight in demon ruins due to space.
>the servers are still down
>>334664159
>cheese the boss
No thanks
>>334663159
Don't you know that's just a regular enemy? The game is full of them later on.
>>334664450
Go ahead and cry like a bitch then.
>being this mad a boss didnt roll over and die for you
sheesh
>>334664218
>whether I'm able to make it to the stairs or not depends purely on the random actions of those 2 fucking dogs
Trial and error. Learn the attack pattern of Capra demon. Learn when to roll. Just dodge the first attacks then head straight for the stairs. If you try to block the attacks with a shield you're probably gonna get staggered then raped by dogs.
I know he's pretty intimidating at first, but you'll find a way after a couple of tries.
>>334661767
you playing with a controller?
>>334664316
Oh, and if you're having trouble navigating the swamp, it's highly advisable to go to the Undead Parish elevator, and jump off partway up onto the stone structures above the flooded church. Find the crow's nest and wait until the prompt appears. Wait a bit longer after curling up and you'll head back to the Asylum. Explore a little and you'll find a ring that lets you move through swampwater easier. Also consider buying some purple and blooming purple moss clumps from the vendor in the aqueduct in Undead Burg. Head around past the Capra Demon's gate and go up the tower. Once you're in the aqueduct, the vendor is behind the bars on the right. You can also open a shortcut back to Firelink from there.
I can actually see how someone would find the Souls games challenging coming only from Bloodborne.
I had to readjust to 3 after BB. I kept trying to open every fight with a smasher of an attack to keep the enemy off balance, but in Souls games that gets you crushed. The basic knight type enemies in Lothric were 1v1ing me into the fucking ground.
Then I remembered that I wasn't playing Bloodborne and proceeded to bait them into exhausting a complete combo before attacking, and stopped getting my asshole widened.
DaS1 plays largely the same as 3 as far as combat principles go. 99% of the time you won't be able to crack a boss' poise and create room for improvisation, you really have to play at the pace they set.
Anyway, benefit of doubt to the op that youre not baiting: I really recommend you stick with it and learn to adapt to the differences between games. The mechanical disparity can seem nonexistent at a glance but once you've gone balls deep on both games you can see it's night and day.
>>334661767
The series is over
Also, you sound like you havent played Demons Souls
>run up the stairs to get dogs to follow you
>jump down and let dogs jump down too
>kill dogs
There, it just got 100 times easier.
>>334664316
He needs to have picked the Master Key for that to have worked right?
>>334664534
>strawman argument
No complaints about the Tauros demon or the 2 gargoyles. This boss just makes the bullshit about the game stand out more.
>>334664594
Aside from his first attack he doesn't have a "pattern", it's just a set of choreographed attacks done in random succession, just like whether the dogs running to block me in or letting me get up those stairs is random
>>334664619
Dualshock 4
>>334662310
This
How to get into Dark Souls? I can't stand playing anything made in Japan.
>>334661767
>Capra demon
>hard
>>334664801
Nope. Master Key will get you into the Valley of Drakes from the New Londo Ruins, but if you enter the Valley from Darkroot Basin, no key is needed and you can get the key to New Londo Ruins pretty easily from the Blighttown rear entrance.
>>334664801
Have you even read what he typed?
>>334664813
ya people complained about capra when it first came out
they were fucking casual shitters then too and everyone made sure they knew it
>>334664910
Quit being a faggot.
Stop judging things by where they're from.
>>334664739
Sometimes that's the case.
Other times they run at me immediately, block me in the right side, and keep me there for the capra demon to kill me.
>>334661767
Really? Bloodborne is the cheapest of the games when it comes to artificial difficulty, with Dark Souls 2 comming next, though Dark Souls 2 was easy enough to give it you tried star.
>>334664813
>taurus demon and gargoyles
>literally the easiest bosses
>capra demon
>starting to get harder
>BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW WHY CAN'T I KILL IT IN TWO SECONDS, THESE DOGS ARE BULLSHIT
literally cucking yourself with each post
>>334664910
Contrary to what you might believe, the weeb factor of these games is literally 0.
These devs have a fucking huge west-boner, every single game looks western as fuck, you have literally no fucking weeb shit at all.
Wait, is this that boss with the staircase?
Man hes easy as fuck abuse the arch to the right of the top of the staircase, you can kite him for days.
I quit during the shitty sewer level
>>334661767
the only time capra is difficult is when both dogs go right
>>334665074
Just try and try again. Get up the stairs, and you can get onto the little ledge next to the stairs. Capra has trouble with it.
>>334665136
katanas are the best weapon in every souls game
>>334664985
Ah, I was misremembering the area. I thought the gates that needs a key was what connected to Blighttown, but it's actually connecting New Londo Ruins with the Valley
>>334665189
See >>334664316
You can bypass the sewers/depths.
>>334665246
>katanas are the best weapon in every souls game
>>334665130
>incredibly small area
>2 dogs whose behavior is pure random - sometimes they let you reach the stairs, sometimes not
>only 5 estus flasks
>having to stand still to use an estus flask
>>334665179
>>334665201
I don't cheese bosses
>>334665190
That's my point. It's pure chance whether the dogs let you reach the stairs.
>>334665340
At the very least, they're pretty fucking good in the first Dark Souls.
>>334665246
thats not how you spell straight swords
>>334665340
They are good in pvp in ds2 and it apparently seems to be true in ds3. Since so many people claim they wreck people with katanas in ds3 pvp.
>>334665427
>That's my point. It's pure chance whether the dogs let you reach the stairs.
I don't know what to tell you besides git gud. Seriously. Just keep trying.
>Beat DS1
>Don't know what to do now
help
>>334665445
>they're pretty fucking good in the first Dark Souls.
>katanas
>good
>first Dark Souls
>>334665246
>he never used a rapier
Katanas are actually pretty bad honestly.
>>334665601
play 2
>first time against Capra
>run up stairs, dogs follow and I kill them
>Capra stands around like a doof while I plunge attack him several time for the win.
>second playthrough
>do it again
>capra follows me up the stairs
FUCK. It really is luck. If Capra doesn't want to die, he won't die.
Don't give up on it, what does it matter how many times it kills you before you win? You can be aggressive right out of the fog and kill the dogs at once if dodging it isn't working. If your weapon is heavy enough it can stagger him there too.
Just leave enough stamina for dodging once while you're hitting him. He prepares all of his attacks extremely obviously. Also you can just run a circle up the stairs and off the ledge at the top getting him to chase you, then jumping down on his head.
>>334661767
>Waaaah, the mobs are hard, fuck this game waaaah
Says the faggot playing on current year while pvp and invasion is mostly dead.
Yeah Capra fight starts with an element of chance, sometimes I can bypass the dogs, other times I get boxed in. Doesn't stop it from being doable once you manage a clean getaway.
I wouldn't call him easy once you get him alone but he's very manageable, you can soak one or two hits with a shield without pissing out all your stam and his attacks are pretty clearly telegraphed when you calm down enough to actually observe him instead of putting all your effort into reacting. The hardest part of Souls games versus Bloodborne is forcing yourself to delay for half a second and thread the needle with your dodges instead of mashing circle to gain distance. There's no safety like good timing.
Been playing DS3 all day. Still at the beginning but I feel I do like BB better.
>>334661767
>getting cockslapped around by the fucking capra demon
>fat fuck and marathon man will just manhandle and rape you later on
good going, just proving you are a casual piece of shit.
get the fuck out and don't come back.
>>334665427
>I don't cheese bosses
Anon, I don't think you understand what this game is.
Dark Souls doesn't fucking care if you're having fun or not. It doesn't care if you "fight properly" or "do the boss without cheesing it". There are no fucking rewards for good behavior here.
You do whatever you can to win, short of using an external cheat program. If standing somewhere the boss can't hit you is what works, then that's what you fucking do. Do you think you're "not getting the full experience" if you cheese it? Well let me give you a little spoiler: Capra Demons become STANDARD ENEMIES once you reach the Demon Ruins. You'll have plenty of fucking chances to have an "honest, noble fight" with one later.
But for now, you are young and weak. Cheese the fucker. No one will think any less of you for doing so.
>>334665427
I agree it's shit and there are definitely some worse encounters. Bed of Chaos is the most retarded thing in any Souls game
>>334665427
>I don't cheese bosses
>but I DO complain that I can't beat them and whine when shown there's an obvious, easy way to beat them.
>>334665747
>fat fuck and marathon man
Jesus christ, I heard them all back then but it cracks me up every fucking time.
>>334665691
There might not really be much players to summon anymore, but at least OP you won't get dickwraiths all day everyday. Suck up your pride and GIT GUD
>>334665747
>get the fuck out and don't come back
You gonna make me, big boy?
>>334665658
But i don't know if i should go though my second playthrough of DS1 to get the better experience
It's imposible to have played bloodborne and thought souls was hard with the existence of ludwig/orphan
>>334665136
This is so untrue. Apart from a couple of armor designs (cover armors) and the first level in each game (burg, cathedral ward, lothric etc) its standard grimdark weebshit.
>>334665954
just do whatever the fuck you want nigga
If you used plunge attacks to kill Taurus but not to kill Capra, you are just a faggot. There's no honor in Lordran. Just raw, bleeding anuses and the fists that left them as such. Now which will you be? The fist or the anus?
>>334665954
DaS2 isn't a bad game, it's just not as good as DeS, DaS1, BB or DaS3.
You should play it. You'll probably have fun. Just... not as much fun.
>>334664007
Incorrect Mr. Bond.
>>334665947
Yeah, I am.
*takes off shirt to reveal abs and muscles*
>>334666128
The anus? I only spent 5 bucks on this game and played for about 8 hours so I don't really have a problem just walking away.
No point in playing if I'm not having fun.
Some people just aren't as good as they think. its okay if you know you suck
>>334666052
Maybe because you feel so powerful in Bloodborne, with the ease of dashing around among other things. As intended, obviously. In Bloodborne you're not fighting the bosses, the bosses are fighting you.
>>334665765
>having problems with bed of chaos
>when all you need to do is get your mario on and jump retarded shit to get to the goal of stabbing a bitch
anon your bad at this.
>>334664449
Wat
I just helped some guy beating the 4 (four) kings
>>334666089
But that's fucking wrong you cockmangling cumguzzling faggotyhippitylittely turbo shitlord.
Name one place from all the 5 games that is even remotely weeb.
Go the fuck on, i fucking dare you.
>>334666236
Bond?
>>334666295
that's anus talk
>>334666295
You know what I think, anon?
I think you don't want to beat Dark Souls. You're completely ignoring all the advice given to you, and refusing to use methods that would allow you to win, simply because you feel the need to fight honorably in a game that will happily fuck you from six directions at once and not even give you a tissue to clean yourself up with afterwards.
I think you just wanna come on /v/ and try to "Show those stupid Dark Souls fans that they're wrong to like this game because I DON'T LIKE IT AND WHAT I LIKE IS MOST IMPORTANT".
>>334665760
Objectively its not wrong to cheese, but you're denying yourself the satisfaction of doing it the intended way. Take summoning, for example. Its a legitimate way to progress, wouldn't be in the game otherwise. But speaking from experience, when you kill a boss by thwacking him in the ass while he's basically 1v1ing someone else, you miss out on the serotonin dump you get from staring him in the face for the eleventh time and finally putting that bitch in the ground with your own two hands... aka the reason most people play.
>>334666384
don't lie anon, the servers for dark souls 1 have been off for 5 days now
https://steamdb.info/app/211420/history/
>>334666295
>no point in playing if I'm not having fun even if I could get better and have fun at some point
>shitposting on /v/? shit yeah get me some of that, I have tons of fun telling /v/ I hate videogames
>>334666537
Oh fuck, sorry to hear that anon, i played it in the 360
>yfw you realize the opposite of "Fromsoft" is "Tohard"
>>334666474
Yeah, I feel like an anus right now.
>>334666490
venting my frustration at this game by posting about it on 4chan seemed like a decent enough idea.
I never said the game was bad. All things considered I'd probably rate it at least 8/10. I just hate all the bullshit.
>>334666537
shit, are they ever going back up?
>>334666089
You don't understand what you're talking about. These games all have medieval settings, level design, and apart from a few per game, armor and weapon design.
>>334666663
>>334666663
Go to sleep, you have to go to schooltomorrow, kid
>>334664648
>didn't find the rusted iron ring until after Blighttown and sens fortress
I'm still mad
>>334666408
There is literally an area called "Demon Ruins", think about how that for a second. Its grimdark shit. And it all comes from japan, and only weebs like it. The games would be much better if they were more strictly western medieval and not filled with edgelord crap.
>>334666549
I'd rather have fun playing Bloodborne over again.
>20 blood vials
>enemies drop blood vials
>can use blood vials while moving
vs
>5 estus flasks
>have to use an item to temporarily gain more
>can only refill by resting at bonfire
>stand still like a dumbass while using it
>>334666814
>>334666663
>"Huh... Nothin personal, kid."
>>334666663
>>334661767
>"I'm not smart enough to grind or literally just come back later when I'm stronger"
I dont think this game is the only challenge in your life, anon.
>>334665246
Worse than rapiers in DeS, DkS3, BB.
>>334666840
>he actually used the ring and didn't cheese the bonfire like a motherfucker
god damn casual.
i bet you fuckers didn't even lightning greatsword route post update.
FUCK YOU FAGGOTS GIVE ME AC6
>>334666698
Then why don't you do what >>334664316 suggested and bypass it? Why don't you kindle a bonfire to boost your estus count to 10? Why not head through the graveyard, down into the Catacombs, and fight Pinwheel (one of the easiest bosses in the game), so you can get the upgrade needed to boost your estus count to 20?
You have so many options available to you. But you insist that doing This One Thing in This One Way that you've decided on MUST WORK or the game is somehow broken.
Broaden your horizons. Change your perspective. Go do something else and come back later. Hell, you could go do the Hydra and Darkroot Garden Proper, even. You don't HAVE to fight the Capra Demon now. You can go do a thousand other things first and come back later and stronger. You're not cheating or cheesing the game or sequence breaking by doing this.
Go... have some fun, damn it.
>>334666749
>Medieval level design
Assuming you mean western level design, also false because its clearly based on japanese games like metroid, castlevania, ghouls 'n ghosts fucking gaywad.
>>334666913
>he doesn't know how to even get more estus flasks
>MFW
The Capra Demon is a shit fight but he has practically no fucking health. Only takes like four swings with the +5 Zweihander and he's dead.
>>334666715
no
they closed ds1's servers without further notice
>>334667043
because I don't remember how to kindle a bonfire
>>334666884
>"There is literally a poem called "Dante's Inferno" Think about that for a second. It's grimdark shit, only weebs would like it.
>>334666884
Demonic ruins in a burning subterranean hell is more of a Western thing.
>>334666913
>5 estus flasks
You respawn at kindled bonfires with more flasks, you dummy. I bet you use humanity consumables to heal yourself.
>>334667202
Rest at a bonfire.
Restore your humanity. This costs 1 Soft Humanity (counter next to your health bar). If it's at 00, then use a Humanity item.
Kindle the bonfire. This costs 1 Soft Humanity. See above if you need more.
If you have zero humanity, you can get more using Cracked Red Eye Orbs, by placing your summon sign down using the White Soapstone and helping someone kill a boss, or by farming rats.
>>334666884
>demon ruins
>weeb shit
>>334666913
Sounds like you started at Bloodborne and then played souls. I can see how that would feel frustrating. You're supposed to feel less powerful and overcome the gap in souls, where in Bloodborne you feel much faster and stronger, and you're meant to play that way to heal your damage by attacking immediately.
>>334665663
If he follows the dogs up the stairs they should be able to body block him long enough for you to kill them. If he follows you up the stairs once they're dead you can just kite him. He's a lot slower than you.
>run up stairs
>wait until Capra gets to the top
>jump down
>sprint to entrance
I did this tons of times whenever I needed to heal or needed to reset where we were if he cornered me. Of course you have to be able to dodge his attacks.
>>334666326
>>334664683
Youre right on the money. In a lot of ways Bloodborne ends up being a lot easier than the Souls games since it allows you so much control over the flow of a battle, be it against adds or bosses.
While Souls bosses force you to learn the exact rhythm of a boss and dance to the beat of their drum, Bloodborne bosses usually have a way for basically any build to make them go "AGH FUCK MY EYES" and reliably and repeatedly bring them to their knees for additional free hits or even critical attacks. Dont get me wrong, I really liked this and thought it was refreshing, but its still undeniably easier.
I mean obviously theres exceptions in both games but generally speaking, in DS you strictly obey the bosses requisite pacing, and in Bloodborne the flow of battle is more of a tug o war where both parties can force each others hand.
>>334661767
Stop fat rolling then, you shitter.
Look at all the fucking morons that ate up this bait like fucking pancakes
>>334667249
>>334661767
I just got to the Capra Demon myself, like, minutes ago.
He did push my shit in the first three or four times, but he's a breeze (And actually really fun) once you clear out those stupid dogs.
>>334667073
Oh. Well, you got me, I responded.
>>334667249
>>334667265
>>334667404
stop
>>334667505
But everyone here is saying to roll. Even though they are super slow and clunky.
>>334667570
If OP Is not baiting, he truly is the biggest dumbass on /v/ right now.
Actually no, the second biggest dumbass is the barneyfag.
>>334664406
>He can't come up there.
He actually can. Usually you're fast enough that he tries to jump at you and falls down or something but he can make it all the way up. I almost shat my pants when he was in the corner with me
>>334666356
>platforming
>dark souls
>the worst controls for platforming in a dark souls
>in dark souls
yeah I fucking am
>>334661767Get the Master key and you don't have to fight the Capra Demon
>>334661767
I beat him my first try with no summons or cheese all you have to do is focus dogs since they get to you first so I recommend a broad sweeping weapon like a halber or literally any sword heavy attack to wipe out the dogs then its just a matter od dodgin attacks and are they fucking coreagraphed for the capra demon. So yea in short
>try again mate
>>334667712
Then stop fat rolling and become an invincible bringer of death with a katana! All you need is the grass crest shield and cloranthy ring then just roll and 2 hand everything.
>>334667712
Oh shit, thats right, equipment load isnt a thing in BB.
In DS, your roll speed and distance are governed by load. Under 25% (say 14.3/60 or whatever) you get the fastest roll. The tiers above that get progressively slower and less useful.
Basically, start dropping armor pieces until your roll becomes useful.
>>334665427
>only 5 estus flasks
You DO know how to kindle right?
>>334661767
the only shit thing about the Capra, and most bosses is having to travel there every time you die. That's all that shits me about the game, playing for the first time at the moment, trying to get hyped for Queelag
>>334667481
Yeah exactly. People like to bring up certain bosses and make it an argument when it's mentioned but it isn't an insult to say Bloodborne is easier, it's meant to be easier.
>>334667570
>baiting /v/
Anon this is not a board, this is an arena where people fight each other in a frenzied state of pure rage and anger.
We're not fighting op, we're all fighting each other.
Why?
For the sake of it.
>>334664449
yah, this annoys me, been playing for 20 hours, about two of them had messages around, wish I had them around in Blighttown
You are small time.
>>334665427
>only 5 estus flasks
Ahahahahahaha post when you shit yourself playing DS2
>>334665130
desu I found the capra demon easier than the gargoyles
Gargoyles - 3 tries
Kapra demon - 1 try
Only bullshit boss imo is Manus, fuck that fight
>>334668692
>Implying Gwyn isn't the easiest boss in the game
>>334669014
Note the level, famalamadingdong.
>>334669014
>missing the point of the post
not even the same guy but I can tell what he's trying to point out is
>SL1 run in NG+ cycle
>>334669126
>NG+ cycle
>1 soul of gywn
>>334669126
>>334669076
But he doesn't have all the other boss souls. He only has Gwyn's. That means he only beat Gwyn. Dipshits
>>334669251
>>334669259
right, and how do you get to Gwyn.
>>334669259
>I'm going to purposely act retarded now, and they'll think it was my plan all along
>>334669384
>>334669392
Idk??? Altering the game file? How do you explain not having the other boss souls then.
>>334669259
>boss souls have no use beyond being a trophy
how retarded are you, exactly?
Like, what's your power level?
>>334669259
There's no way to just go straight to Gwyn.I'm falling for this bait reaaaaallly hard.
>>334669536
Wtf, he clearly doesn't even know how to level up. how else would you explain it?
>>334666295
that's fine, but a few months from now you'll starting thinking about the game for some reason and you'll be wondering about what comes next. Maybe you'll start a new game and you'll reach where you got in 8 hours in about 3. You'll realise Capra Demon only needed a bit more focus, and at most 40 minutes of efforts. You'll breeze thought Depths and realise Blighttown is overrated as far as difficulty goes.
Basically you'll understand why it's a great game and stop this nonsense about luck and realise 90% of the times you die it is completely your fault.
>>334669464
you know they're consumable, right? Just because you do an SL1 run doesn't mean you can't use souls for buying shit.
>>334669602
>doesn't know how to level up
Almost took the bait, but he did a shit job of setting the hook, so I got out safe.
>>334666965
>3
>rapiers can't kick
One fucking job
>>334669809
>realise Blighttown is overrated as far as difficulty goes
Except it isn't. The framedrops, overall layout, enemy placement, and swamp shit convene to make it the most frustrating area in any souls game.
>>334669809
This except for me it was 2 days.
>>334669814
Yeah, okay kid
>>334669956
only fuck awful thing about it is falling off boardwalks I found, I had spent a lot of time getting looting out Darkroot beforehand so I had no lack of blooming mosses. Did lose a lot of souls getting down to the bottom though.
>>334669956
Is English your second language? Idk how else youd butcher the spelling of Shrine of Amana that badly.
>>334670319
I have a hard time with the fat guys. They either kill me outright or I fall off while fighting them. They take too damn long to kill. I hear bleeding is good, but I don't have high enough DEX to use the only decent bleeding weapon I have.
Nice falseflagging. BB is far more difficult than DaS1 or DaS3. I've finished both with ease. You had to spend more time learning the ins and outs of BB.
>>334670715
I played BB before DaS1, and the only difficult bosses in BB (excluding the dlc because I haven't played it) are Gascoigne, Shadow of Yharnam, and Gehrman.
>>334666052
Orphan is one of the easiest bosses in BB. Ludwig's probably the only boss in the game I had trouble with that wasn't a deep chalice boss and even then "trouble" means he took me more than 3 tries. First time I got him to his 2nd phase I won, because his jump would ohko me and always seem to catch me despite having a rough idea of the timing.
In 3, Dancer, Nameless and Cinder all gave me trouble. Lothric started too but I just had to get used to the teleporting.
>Dark Souls
>Boss smacks you
>Fair chance to drink up if you can dodge his next attack
>BB
>Boss smacks you
>50 combo ensues in which every single blow can one shot you
>10/10 ign - It's okay
>>334670875
Gascoigne is tough because people aren't used to the mechanics at the point you have to fight him.
Shadow of Yharnam isn't really that bad, it just takes awhile due to kiting. There's a ton of room to work with and the three move at different speeds to allow seperating them.
Gehrman wasfun
>>334666474
No, this is anus talk.
>>334668692
This is only impressive if you didn't use pyromancy
>struggling with Capra
Literally HOW
>>334668253
This
>>334670715
>>334670875
I should note that Rom was the only BB boss that I thought was chance bullshit, because some times the little spiders are right on your ass and sometimes they aren't
>>334670991
In bloodborne you can parry from a distance and move while healing
>>334671501
That doesnt make up for trial and error gameplay.
>>334665760
I bet you use shields faggot.
>>334671628
>boss starts to combo me
>roll out of it and walk away spamming blood vials
vs
>back away and chug an estus flask
>boss walks up and smacks me, undoing the healing and leaving me 1 flask short.
>>334671801
You got a problem, faggot?
>>334670715
>BB is more difficult
Yeah, bottomless stamina, quickstepping, free health regen on hit, almost every enemy being easy to stagger, each weapon having an attack/mode for every occasion, most bosses having a literal weak spot, ranged parries, easily farmed pots/mats and items specifically for farming no less...
This game sure forces you to scrape by on the skin of your teeth, I tell you what.it was my goty for 2015 but lets be real, once you've gotten familiar enough with the game to clear Amelia, the rest of the game is a pushover
>>334666524
I'd rather cheese and make progress than quit the game out of frustration.
>>334672543
>if you beat amalia you can beat logarius, gherman, ludwig, orphan, defiled ammy, or defiled watchdog
No
>>334672949
Logarius only took me 2-3 tries because when he enters his second stage he's really easy to parry
>>334673147
Logarius is pretty easy when you realize you can stagger him at any point in the fight.
Huge parry windows
>>334661767
For what its worth, I just beat the capra demon TODAY after rage quitting since last year.
patterns, strategy, and yes, luck will win the day. Don't give up OP, I believe in you.
>>334665530
You seem to have misspelled Morningstar.
>>334673147
Parrying bosses in BB Is the equivalent of using magic in souls, I don't do either
I failed 10 times but then finally got it on the 11th time myself.
It also took me like 18 tries to beat the Stray Demon.And then I killed the Gaping Dragon and Quelaag on my first try.
>>334664974
You're wrong you need master key to get to unlock tha t shortcut
>souls fag says BB is easy because of parries
>they completely ignore magic/miracles/pyromancy which are far more braindead than parrying
>mfw
>>334671174
Considering he's a chaos servant, he more than likely did.
>>334674841
Considering he has no humanities on him except a few, it is also possible he just used it for the shortcut.
Lost Izalith is not fun at SL1
>>334661767
OP, it took me until today to git gud,and my only choice was SOTFS, i held it off a long fucking time. just find what works for you, and use it. fuck what the other dudes say. i know you can do it if a lazy NEET like me can.
>>334675009
A fair point, I completely forgot about that.
Daily reminder Dark souls 3 is shit and a glorified Dark souls 2.5 more B team edition.
>>334661767
you can just fucking walk 2 steps, make him attack, go back, and kill both dogs in one swing
>>334675009
What, you can run through all of LI
>>334661767
I'm so shit at every game that I swore off multiplayer out of desperation and even I got Capra Demon after a few tries, what the fuck
>>334674597
There are no doors that require the Master Key.
http://darksouls.wikidot.com/key-to-new-londo-ruins
This key can be found just inside the rear entrance of Blighttown, and it opens that door. You can get to the rear entrance of Blighttown through the Valley of Drakes, via the Darkroot Basin cliffside tunnel. Once you have the key, you can then open the shortcut door to New Londo Ruins, and thus Firelink Shrine.
I cant understand how someone coming from BB can think DS is harder. In BB you have to be agressive, yet the punishment for letting a boss get a single hit in is typically 50-100% of your HP.
In DS literally all you do is wait for the boss to finish his moveset, then strike, rinse and repeat. It's like babby's guide to action game boss mechanics, but more punishing. There really isnt any adrenaline involved at all though.
I love all the games, theyre very different but I would never say BB was the easier one. Theyre just very different. Maybe how you handle them depends on what kind of games you usually play other than From games.
>>334666840
>needing the ring
>>334675656
You still have to fight a Centipede Demon at the doorway instead of the slightly more open area due to no lava ring.
>>334677549
That's not lost izalith
Many have finished DS1. Its hard, but not impossible.
>>334670397
>Shrine of Amana
Bloodborne felt like harder game, Dark Souls is slow and lacks fluidity in combat. Also, you can hide behind a shield.
Going from Bloodborne to Dark Souls 3 felt weird as fuck.
>>334661767
Roll passed it, briskly stroll up the stairs, take down both dogs as they charge you, and then proceed to whoop the capra demon's ass because it's fucking easyWOOOOW
>>334661767
Dark Souls III is by far the easiest of the series
>>334677045
>BB bosses hit for 50-100% hp
Not even in fucking NG+. And even then, you can literally soak the fucking hits and regain all your health, I blew through Ludwig on rally alone. Being able to trade hits with a boss without a net loss of health makes the margin of error wide enough to park a truck inside of.
>in DS you wait for bosses to be open before you attack them
Way harder than getting to casually stun/interrupt bosses four times your size with regular melee attacks, totally.
And are you actually suggesting that you dont squeeze your attacks on BB bosses between their attack patterns same as DaS? Because if thats the case, no wonder you think its so fucking hard.
>no adrenaline in DaS bossfights
Pretty hard to get worked up over a Lets Play.
>>334673147
i bet you fought him after wet nurse
>>334678143
Not him, but
>first phase nothing but easily dodged spells and lethargic melee attacks
>second phase is predictable melee combos and a drop attack that happens with the exact same timing every time
I didnt even have to break line of sight, just dodged, raped him with a +6 kirk sword. The bloodlickers in the courtyard were more wily to fight with how quickly they tracked, Logarius' range of motion overlaps heavily with most other humanoid bosses and getting in his dead zones is pretty easy. Didnt even know you could parry.
>>334666052
Ludwig is only hard in NG+
1st half is easy.
2nd half is only difficult if you decide to not hug his nutsack.
>>334678703
Wut? First half is a lot harder
>>334678916
still easy.
People see "HOLY SHIT GIANT GLOWNING SWORD" and back away so Ludwig can shoot waning arcs and other bullshit at you, but when you hug his nuts, his giant sword is pretty easy to dodge, that's why I said what I said for the second half. Never once stated that one half is harder than the other.
Become better, casul
>>334677045
>>334674675
>>334670991
>take a hit from a boss in Dark Souls
>lose a big chunk of hp, gone forever
>have to decide if landing more attacks is worth being vulnerable to a two-shot followup
>have to time rolls as expertly to retreat as you did to advance
>spend all stamina getting barely outside max range
>take a long-ass swig with your feet planted while boss invariably goes straight for quickest attack to cram that flask down your throat
>take a hit from a boss in Bloodborne
>hug his ass and whack him to get most of it back
>if this isnt enough to continue chewing his ankles, spam roll eight or nine times to safely mitigate all damage and outrun any boss
>quickly pop one of twenty bloodvials without stoppingI liked Bloodborne as a whole more than any of the Souls games, but pretending that it didn't make 2h builds safer AND more efficient than hiding behind a greatshield makes the fanbase at large look insecure as fuck and I resent it.
>>334679102
What do you consider a hard souls boss then
>>334679508
>gone forever
What are estus flasks
I still can't believe bamco preemptively shut the servers down without notice. Complete fucking scumbags.
I pirated das3 and actually like it and thought about buying it for the pvp but now I'm going to keep my money.
>>334677817
>Dark Souls is slow and lacks fluidity in combat. Also, you can hide behind a shield.
Untrue on both accounts for 3, actually.
>>334679813
>what are estus flasks
Theyre like blood vials, but you're actually vulnerable when you use them and you dont carry 20 by default and enemies don't drop more charges on the way to the boss.
This seems like a pretty typical question from someone who claims "Ive played all of the Souls games but Bloodborne is easily the hardest".
>>334674467
I don't get Stray Demon at all:
>fall down, left with 1/4 health
>swings his club that misses you but causes field damage
>dead
I figure I'll come back later, can't get behind him or even a hit in at this point
>>334680331
he's blind, you can roll as soon as you hit the ground,and it's entirely possible to get behind him in the time it takes him to swing his axe. I usually get him first try in repeat playthroughs
Not defending the boss; it is lazy as shit, but being proactive is always good
>>334680331
There's a sorcery that reduces fall damage
You can roll away
His swings can cause explosions which leave an AOE that lingers even after the hitbox is gone.
All you need to do is get behind it and you win.
>>334666884
Sounds like Yuro Folklore.
>>334666884
this post is so amazingly backwards it's not even funny
seek help immediately
>>334661767
>Bloodborne was tough, but at least it felt like a fair challenge.
So you've forgotten about the Cleric Beast? Or the Chalice dungeons? That was not fucking fair.
And you had a limit of 20 pots (that never got stronger) while in Souls games you can get 10+ estus and upgrade them to damn near full heals.
Oh yeah, and there's no shield. Can't ezmode tank and spank your way through.
>inb4 was bad at game
