KOF VS SFV?
Which game is better?
>>334628008
XIV isnt even out yet motherfucker.
that said Im looking forward to it more than I ever did SFV
Killer Instinct
>>334628008
Despite all clay hair, sfv looks way way better than kof. Gameplay wise, who the fuck knows, kof ain't out yet
>>334629048
I'm almost coming around to preferring XIV's stylization, SFV is visually unattractive in general.
>>334628008
Hard to say when neither of them has been released yet.
>>334628008
>implying any modern fighting game could be worse than SFV
It doesn't matter which one you wanted to compare it to, SFV will always lose.
Call me a faggot but I believe any kof game is better than any sf game.
>>334628008
Nigger as ultra hype as I am for KoF XIV as I am, feeling like a meth head without meth in between trailers, XIV isn't even out yet. Yes SFV looks better graphically, but it's pointless to compare it to a game that isn't even fucking out yet. Try both when they're both out at their best then pass judgement instead of inviting shitposting man.
>>334628742
>>334629048
>>334630067
>>334631265
nice to see some reason.
Yeah OP, hard to compare two games when one isn't out. Maybe KoF14 will be a broken mess, we can't tell yet.
If you're a casual though, I think it will probably be a better buy - the roster is 3 times the size, and you can bet your ass it will have the arcade mode so you can dodge the actual meat of the game and pretend you're gittin gud.
>>334631808
>so you can dodge the actual meat of the game and pretend you're gittin gud.
Oh, it's the "if we badmouth SP content enough, then it won't matter that SFV doesn't have any" force. Took ya long enough.
>>334632126
If you want to play the CPU, then SFV is absolutely a terrible game for you. The story mode is a joke with ugly art, and the Survival mode is either boring or stupidly frustrating with no middle ground.
If you don't want to play against the CPU, it's a decent game with good balance due to its embarrassingly small roster.
>>334628008
I may be bias on this since I'm from south america and KoF is really big here, but I think Kof could win this, SFV shipped unfinished, still got it because I wanted a fighting game.
>shitty "arcade story" mode
>early release was intended for online play but the servers are crap
>Capcom refuses to acknowledge that the pc version is fucked and do nothing
>couple of character with unbreakable chains, once you get grabed by Mika you lost the game
the first trailer of KoF XIV looked like shit, people complain, and then every teaser is looking better and better, gameplay and combos looks smoother than SFV and the game will start with full rooster and cool designs
Also, Angel is a qt and I really hope they add Vanessa
>>334632659
>I really hope they add Vanessa
>>334631808
Casuals can't do KOF motions, though.
God Angel is hot.
>>334632786
No Vanessa or Elizabeth is really killing me
>>334632798
It still has quarter circles and charge inputs.
>>334632786
Why u hating on best girl?
>terry
>angel
>benimaru
>king
>geese
>kula
>king of dinosaurs
How will I pick just 3?
>>334632659
difference is that our chinese overlords want money, people saw the first teaser and said "looks like shit, we are not going to buy this". then the chinese fixed the game.
>>334633013
You play as them and decide which ones you like more. That's how I got my current team (which I'm going to have to change thanks to the awesome newcomers)
>>334633197
Hey, if their greed results in a better game then that just works out for everyone.
>>334633337
I don't have a single problem with companies working 100% for the money if they are going to deliver a cool game that people will buy, at least the chinese are honest about that shit
>>334633197
I think you mean "Work in Progress actually meant work in progress".
The only thing complaints probably had any bearing on is kyo's face, and it still doesnt look right
>>334633454
every company is working 100% for the money, anon. It's just that not every company has enough capital/talent to make a good product.
>>334633789
It amazes me how Kyo's face looks different in each teaser. But it's strange that they keep using pic related in their official sites and events.
Iori on the other hand at least looked like him in the first trailer.
>early access PS4 game versus unfinished PS2 game
>>334634814
isn't it kinda crazy that we have games that look like PS2 cut-scenes, except that's the actual gameplay now?
>>334630034
It's just a shame KOF14 has the same problem SF4 did. The animations are so fucking bad in all the KOF14 trailers.
How did de go from this
>>334635353
To this shit
>>334635113
The animations have been fine for a while now
>>334635440
what the fuck
that looks like a fat cosplayer
>>334635113
Animations actually look good and smooth.
Maybe they look somewhat rough but the game is still in development
>>334635353
to this
>>334635565
they still look choppy to me, they're just hitting the keyposes from old-ass spritework and tweening in-between.
>>334635913
>>334635113
I think what they're going for is to make the animations look similar to the previous KoF games. ArcSys did the same thing with Guilty Gear Xrd.
>>334633197
>difference is that our chinese overlords want money, people saw the first teaser and said "looks like shit, we are not going to buy this". then the chinese fixed the game.
It's funny because China hates the game right now.
>>334635951
It looks choppy because it is, intentionally so. They're trying to make the game feel like the 2D games, so they are animating them the same way. It's also why a good deal of the particle and visual effects are hand drawn.
>>334635440
That's what you get when you take a model catered to a certain shading engine to another shade.
Killer Instinct.
>>334636168
it looks bad. Choppy is bad, I'd rather have fluid animations. Xrd's animations look bad, too. Glorious stills, but fuck man stop animated on 8s like your japanese cartoons.
and no fucking way can you consider those effects "hand-drawn", they're blatantly cheap CG effects that I could make in Unity.
>>334628008
>No jiggle
What the hell SNK?
>>334636000
Is that Naoki Yoshida? Does he have more Karin/SF characters?
>>334636462
Not sure, but just look for granblue and street fighter if you want more.
>>334636456
real talk, they probably didn't have the jiggle working yet and will add it in with later builds.
>>334636373
>this artistic decision is objectively bad because I don't like it
>nevermind the principles of animation that often get lost when you do the opposite
Sure thing bud.
>and no fucking way can you consider those effects "hand-drawn", they're blatantly cheap CG effects that I could make in Unity.
Right, I'm sure you know more about the game development than I do.
>>334636456
There's no physics engine in place for things like jiggle physics, all of those movements are handmade animations. This trailer was before they started implementing these animations. In later trailers there is jiggle because they had actually gotten around to animating breasts.
>>334632887
casuals can't do 2xhcb (actually, this is just a dumb input) or qcf,hcb (fucking no one should have trouble with this, and it's a somewhat common input) or db,hcf,df (hi there K9999 -- this one is retarded and everyone I know just does 3xhcb)
believe me, I've tried to get them to
I've known people who after days of trying, still can't do a DP, and KOF is more lenient about them than all SF games prior to SF4.
which is appalling, because I managed to teach my girlfriend how to do it in like an hour
>>334636168
they need to add some motion blur for those animations
>>334633013
that's easy peasy:
Geese/Kula/King of Dinosaurs
>>334636754
>they need to add some motion blur for those animations
They add it to the attacks that need motion blur to emphasize speed. Motion blur is a design choice for certain moves.
>>334636000
>>334635913
>Tfw havent even started the SFV collab yet
>STILL trying to farm for Unknown Water Fist drops in SFIV Ultra
god damn this is suffer.
>>334636168
>It's funny because China hates the game right now.
Huh? Why?
>Terry doesn't have the Donkey kick
>Angel isn't Urien
Will bitch in most threads until SF (XI)V bombs!
>>334637141
he's talking out his ass.
>>334637141
They hate it because video related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R9XTo9IFI8
>>334637141
They think that China is making it. The game looks cheap and that would make China look bad.
>>334635951
>>334636168
As far as i know, some anon claims that KOF XIV trailers are running on an old build but they will show the new one soon.
Do you know what the chinese are complaining more about? I keep seeing some BRs still bragging because "why isn't this in 2D? It looks shit!" but those are the same guys who only play 98 and 02 so I'm sure they would complain no matter what. But in general people here are getting more hyped with each teaser.
>>334637384
But '97 is the best KOF.
>>334637448
Of course. That's just how game development works. What you show off is always some builds behind because the stuff you're currently working on isn't ready to be shown off yet. Even this upcoming build with 24 characters we're going to see pretty soon, that's not the most recent build or anywhere close to it. It's still old as fuck, it's just new to us.
>>334637557
>>334637390
sorry, I forgot to link to you and I didn't saw this reply.
>>334637557
>Do you know what the chinese are complaining more about?
They say it looks like a cheap webgame. The models are low quality and it doesn't compare with games like Tekken 7 or DOA5. Also the patriotism like I said before, which is misguided because the game is being made by SNK still.
>>334637617
Most people dont realize that dev's have to take extra time to make demo builds and often times what you see in demos and in trailers are actually ancient ass builds. Or possibly just the last stable one.
>>334637868
>cheap webgame
it looks fine. the clothes are actually strangely high detailed compared to the actual characters skins. its kinda weird. the Youtube compressed videos also doesnt do the game any justice either.
>>334638009
I agree with you, but China thinks the game looks bad and it makes China look bad by extension.
>>334638178
it could use some polish here and there
>>334637868
The Chinese are the last people I'd want to hear that shit from.
>>334638929
That reputation you have with China is exactly why the Chinese are mad.
>>334639074
That's pretty funny desu.
BURNING
KICK BATH
>>334638178
this is probably the right idea for them to have
>>334638009
>the clothes are actually strangely high detailed compared to the actual characters skin
this is true
there's all kind of shit like fabric creasing going on, which looks kind of spiffy (assuming you can make it out with these fucking super blurry youtube trailers)
but fabric and shit is easier to make look right compared to skin
>>334637036
and it looks great there
but I don't mean like heavy motion blur like that example, just some to make the movements look smoother
>>334639074
I know it's already been described before, but would you know any of the details on the 3v3 online mode? I feel like I understand the theory, but I want to make sure of what it is.
>>334642276
Its basically going to be like how at some tornaments you'd have a player play as one character on each team and they'd switch out.
There used to be a Build specifically dedicated to doing this on Kailera I believe for 2002. good luck trying to find it though.
>>334642276
It's 6 player 2v2 teams, 3 players to a team. Each person picks one character. Definitely going to be a favorite casual party mode since you get to play with tons of friends and you only need to know how to play one character.
>>334639074
Given that, maybe their chinese owners (forgot the name of the company) could give them more budget for the sake of imrpoving the graphics further before release.
I'm content with how the game looks now, although there's obvious room for improvement. If the chinese are so bothered by it, it's up to them to help imrpove on it, I guess?
>>334642572
They are already improving on it, They are already at the polishing and balancing stage.
I swear people are just going off of the PSX trailer still when they complain
>>334642415
Makes me wonder how the character order is going to be decided.
>>334642572
to have a 50-character roster with SFV or Tekken 7 level models would be a fuckhuge budget. they're doing great imo
I'm a Mexican that can't wait for this game
I just hope they really fix the netcode this time and reveal my main pronto
>>334642678
>>334643612
>They are already improving on it
>they're doing great imo
I know, and I agree.
The chinese don't seem to agree though, which is my point.
