So? Where does our new entry fit in to the official, objectively correct ranking image?
I personally haven't decided yet, but I'm having a fantastic time and continue to be impressed with it.
REMEMBER: Even the worst game in the series was not a "bad" game. All of these are a cut above the vast majority of other games released. So keep your "it's shit." to yourself.
>>334594960
I'd put it on par with DeS
is it worth getting a ps4 just for bloodborne?
>>334594960
Why are you listing the same games twice?
>>334595197
not yet, wait until the end of this year
>>334595197
yes
>>334595197
I bought mine just for it, bought a lot of games since.
>>334595254
It's the DLC.
>>334594960
Under Bloodbourne lookalike.
Because fuck making a souls game, let's put as much BB bullshit we can in the game without making changes to the gameplay to counter.
>>334594960
bloodborne is highly overrated imo
>>334595254
DaS 2 without its DLC isn't that great. The combined package of DaS 2 with its DLC is a "really great" package. They should be looked at separately.
Take off your rose-colored glasses -- DaS without the AotA expansion was VERY flawed. But with that additional content, and with what it does to the lore, the whole package is elevated.
BB as it was released was the first time we got a completely FINISHED game in this series, and was the most perfect package to date. It had a couple flaws though, same as DaS + AotA. But with the DLC, BB is fucking unmatched in the series in terms of its quality as a game.
As someone who prefers playing on consoles, I really think bloodborne is overrated. Aside from the DLC, which was pretty godlike.
I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as Dark Souls 1 overall. The lack of playable PVP really hurt it. The game looked great, but the gameplay just wasn't as fun. For me.
>>334595197
Worst game in the series if you ask me, I've never played DeS though.
>>334594960
What a huge circle jerk.
>>334595569
the way it executed the cosmic horror twist tickled my prostate like nothing else ever has
i LITERALLY got fucking chills as I was typing "cosmic horror twist." That's how much it spoke to me.
>>334595563
What the fuck are you talking about? Adding the DLC doesn't make the base game better, it's still the exact same game.
Reminder that DaS3 has almost every issue DaS2 has and more:
>shit, ill-fitting hub shoehorned into the game
>can't do anything at bonfires beyond healing/sorting spells
>can't even allot your estus at bonfires, have to go back to the fucking hub
>hub is poorly designed and has the npcs spread out too far (compare it to BB where everything you need is in one room with the doll just outside it)
>yet another level up NPC instead of simply leveling at the bonfire
>this NPC, as with Dark Souls 2, absolutely has to spout some lines every single time you want to level up, and she does this IN ADDITION to the lines ripped off from MiB that she drops while you're leveling
>piss poor interconnectivity, you warp to completely different cells twice within the first hour of the game
>linear as fuck, the whole game is pretty much a straight line with the very rare branch that only lasts a single area before you hit a dead end
>weapon skills are a shit answer to transformations and most aren't worth using. R1 spam is still king
>backstabs are a sort of awful hybrid of DaS1 and 2 and often fail to work properly, leaving your character swiping at the air
>game is ugly as sin in a lot of areas, especially the forest and swamp
>encounter design is often DaS2 tier mob bullshit
>there's a number of enemies with retarded amounts of stamina who'll swing their weapon in 240 degree arcs endlessly
>bosses are piss easy and often have adds
>god awful weapon balance
>obnoxious fanservice with zero subtlety
>/v/'s reaction: Best game ever! Based Miyahaki does it again!
I rate it best Souls game ever made.
>>334595790
sotfs changed the base game, not sure about the others
>>334595790
>DaS 2 with its DLC is a really great package
>DaS ... was VERY flawed. But with [AotA], the whole package is elevated
Where exactly did I say what you're saying?
>Top tier
DS1
>Good tier
DS3
>Garbage tier
DS2
Didn't play
Demon Souls
Cuckborne>I enjoyed the PvP tier
DS2
>>334596360
retard
>>334595873
>I made it to the swamp and quit: the post
Seriously though, the game gets better and better as you go.
And the estus system and level design are 100% better than das2 and there's no adaptibility stat so your complaints are pretty small in comparison to those fixes although I do agree with most of what you said
>>334596474
Nigga I beat the fucking game.
Dark Souls III > The Old Hunters > Artorias of the Abyss > First half of DaS > DeS > Bloodborne > DaS2 DLC > Second half of DaS > Scholar > DaS 2
>>334596205
>DaS ... was VERY flawed. But with [AotA], the whole package is elevated
I think this line of reasoning is extremely dumb. You're talking about the retail configuration in which the original game and the DLC were sold as if it's important, but it isn't. That has nothing to do with the creative process of game making. The original Dark Souls game is completely unchanged no matter how you acquire it. Acting like it is somehow better because you got it together with the DLC for a reduced price is deluded.
demon souls >= dark souls 1 > bloodborne > dark souls 2
i aint playing das3 for a while
>>334595274
Explain why? PS4K will make the previous PS4 price drop?
DaS3 > Bloodborne > DaS1 > DaS2 > DeS
Only nostalgiafags and PCucks will disagree with this
>>334595790
No, the SotFS shit changed the enemies' positions around and fiddled with things, on top of adding the 3 new areas and probably some balance changes. Those new areas are also shit, but the bosses make them worthwhile.
>>334596803
if jimmy asks me, "hey, should I get Dark Souls 2?", I'm going to tell him, "Yes, but make sure you get it with the DLC, it's not that great without it"
Do you not remember how we all found our hate for DaS 2 after it released but *before* the DLC released? A ton of DaS 2's problems are fixed by having those lost crown levels woven into the game. The package is a different game than the base one.
>>334597286
i'm honestly not even talking about the SotFS monster placement, i'm just talking about the lost crown levels and the changes they made to the base game adding them in
>>334596692
I haven't even beat it yet and I've encountered some top tier areas and bosses.
The first chunk of the game had all the ugliest areas and ez bosses, and even that was better than das2.
>>334594960
DS1>BloodBorne>DeS>DS3>DS2
>>334597448
Yeah, and those small changes made it slightly more stand-able, but not nearly enough to change it's place from the worst souls game.
Right now, I'd say Fucking Amazing tier.
They really got most everything right this time around:
>Everyone having trouble with different bosses (except for Deacons of the Deep)
>Armor can't be upgraded and all armor is useful
>Poise reworked as benefiting Hyper Armor instead of making the player an immovable object
>Estus can be used during invasions and by phantoms
>Embers can't be spammed like humanities
>No humanity counter for bonus damage resistance
>Weapon Skills are a neat alternative to parrying
>only ONE blacksmith, so no necessary running from Anor Londo to Catacombs to outside of Sen's Fortress
>if a merchant dies, you can give their ashes to the Shrine Maiden to purchase the items
>Indefinite supply of every Titanite except slabs
>Items "_SEEM_" to drop more frequently than Dark Souls
>NO ADAPTABILITY STAT WHAT SO EVER
>Every enemy can be pulled from his ambush squad with a crossbow or short bow without aggroing the whole gank
>All merchants found in the Hub after you locate them
>Game answers many questions and ties the series together while still leaving some mystery for DLC
>Can't be invaded if you've already beaten the critical battle
My first playthrough was about 20 hours, since I went in blind. The exploration factor was great. I've heard the game is linear, but it didn't feel that way for me. Might be because I did Watchers before I did Sage and Yorm before Pontiff or just because I spent most of the time exploring literally everywhere I can.
I really like this game, and I'm scared the DLC might not live up to the hype.
>>334595873
Anon. You know the reason why /v/ reaction to DaS 3 is like this right.it came out on PC.
>>334597586
that's why it's still down there in the image
>>334594960
DSII with SOTFS should be shit tier. DS3 is on par with DS1.
>>334597591
your blind playthrough took only 20 hours? How many hours do previous DS games take you? Usually takes me around 40 hours to beat most souls games.
>>334597570
FU
DeS>DS1/BB>DS3>DS2
>>334597591
>Can't be invaded if you've already beaten the critical battle
This part I don't think is true at least not for the forest\swamp, I beat the crystal bitch and was ganking phantoms afterwards.
>>334598035
>believing everything 12 years old posts on the internet
I think if I didn't have such a connection with DS1 I'd put #3 ahead of it. Almost every single room/area in 3 I find something to appreciate that I won't forget any time soon. Everything in Bloodborne is too samey to be as memorable.
Does anyone else here have tonnes of trouble with specific bosses, spend hours on them, almost break controllers, then when you finally beat them you come here and give advice and act like it was a piece of cake? I've been in a fuck tonne of Wolnir fights and I've watched so many veterans get fucked up that there's no way the bragging on here about how easy he was is true.
>>334598035
Dark Souls took the longest since it was my first in the series. Probably at least three or four days of actual game time. DaS2 was about two days game time, just because I was never sure I was going the right way and didn't understand adaptability at release.
My character has something like 35-40 hours on his timer, but there were times I just walked AFK'd that number so I chopped about 10 hours off (I once left it for at least five hours I'm sure of)
>>334598253
The swamp is Farron Keep, whose boss is the Watchers of the Abyss.
>>334598810
>too samey
I see this a lot, what do you mean by that specifically? Because I can't remember the last time I saw a grotesque fly abomination in anything else.
Or 20 ft tall hooded cthulu berserkers with fucking rocket launchers
I mean the first two areas are villagers, but that's every souls game with the basic hollows.
>>334594960
>BB
>best in the series
Opinion discarded. Kill youself
>>334599468
I love the enemies but the world is too samey. Everything is like one big giant gothic cathedral which is cool as shit but I want more variety. Dark souls made each location feel completely alien to eachother but somehow still connected.
>>334599468
>>334600057
I kinda see what hes saying.
In DaS 1, you go from the burg, to a forest, to underground cave, to a shiny royal castle, to lavaland.
In BB, its generally dark gothic catherdral or dark gothic cave + that one dark gothic forest.
>>334600640
I mean it fits in souls because the universe has become disjointed, or whatever, right? Like going from blighttown to the demon ruins or down to ash lake wouldn't make sense in really any other game.
I was personally fine with mostly Yharnam, because BB is more "realistic" in that regard. You're just trying to clean up this wolf outbreak, not rekindle the ashes of a dying god, you know?
>>334601239
Everything about Bloodborne is solid as fuck, Souls is just tailor made for more memorable experiences.
>>334599564
>>334595197
Bloodbourne fucking sucks unless you like maximum dps fast build. Dont let any of these autists try to tell you otherwise, if it wasnt an exclusive it wouldnt get shilled so hard.
>>334601689
couldn't get past father g, huh? it's alright, he's pretty tricky for a first boss, you'll get him eventually. maybe summon a few people if you cant get him
>>334601779
>criticism
>"ur just shit at game :^)"
Every time.
>>334594960
Fucking Great tier.
>>334594960
Bloodborne sucks and is gay
>>334601837
>don't let any of these autists try to tell you otherwise, if it was on PC it would get shilled so hard
>>334601239
Yeah I think Bloodborne is fine the way it is.
I just prefer Souls, because I'm happy to put aside some immersion when I walk from a forest, to lava city, to some snowy tundra in 10 minutes if it means I'm treated to more gorgeous views.
I'm in it for the gameplay and aesthetics. If the story has to be impacted to improve them, I'm all for it.
>>334601552
How are those wasted 499 $ treating you, Jamal?
>>334602047
I agree. Its not bad, but people put it on some pedestal just to annoy others on /v/.
>>334594960
To me on par with Bloodborne, if not absolute top.
Its at the bottom below dark souls 2 for me. It's absolutely awful. Worse game in the series without question.
Official
>>334602584
Is there any actual symbolism here or did you just copy paste a bunch of random shit in the image?Because that works too.
>>334594960
>BB higher than anything else
Why do you PCucks like to false-flag so much?
>>334602040
Whats with the anti sony fags whenever bb or des is mentioned?
It's like you chumps only started playing when DS1 came to pc.
petitioncucks need to fuck off desu
>>334603183
>someone dislikes X
>"they must belong to Y community!"
Every time.
