After failing miserably to play DS3 using kb+m its time to switch to controller.
Is the xbox one controller as much of a turd as it looks like?
I would just go dualshock 4 but apparently it has bad game compatibility.
Which one should the mustard race own?
The Xbox One controller is great. I've only held a DS4 for a short period of time at a friend's house, but I liked the Xbone controller more.
>>334552141
>Xbox one controller
>A turd
It's an improved version of the 360 controller a.k.a the best controller for PC.
They've got the same less than ideal but not bad build quality. If you're going to go for a non-steam controller you're better off going with the bonepad
the 360 is still the best controller for pc, the xbone requires w10 for wireless so it loses out.
>>334552141
If you can afford an elite controller then prepare for the most incredible gaming experience you've ever had.
>>334552585
41 hours in Das III.
Ninty pro controller with mayflash adapter is what I use. It's pretty fucking great
>>334552585
>He fell for the meme controller.
>>334552141
get the ps4 controller
>>334552779
Best controller on the market. Not my fault you don't know how to use it properly.
>>334552585
>keyboard without numpad
jesus christ how horrifying
>>334552789
>recommending a dual shock
>ever
Top kek
>>334552141
Either or? Depends on what your hands feel more comfortable with?
Either 360 or DS4. Keep in mind the Xbox controllers are natively supported in almost all games, while the DS4 isn't.
>>334552141
I use a PS3 controller because I like it.
It's really personal preference imo.
>>334552847
I have a separate 10 key. Being able to move it around is nice.
X1 controller is tops. It fixes the only real negative on the 360 controller, the dpad.
DS4 is fucking trash and literally melts in your hands after extended use.
Gen 2 Xbone controller. The bumpers are perfect now. Stick placement is right, AA batteries for long life.
Now with that said. I still like a Duel Shock 3 for 2D games. I guess because I grew up on PS1 the Sony Dpad feels great to me.
I like the Bone controller for anything but d-pad heavy games.
>>334552585
>dust everywhere
clean your shit ffs
Consider a Wii U Pro
Logitech Dualshock knockoff.
There's no reason to spend 60 bucks on a controller.
>>334552141
xbox one by far.
>>334552141
trust me the DS4 is the most cheapest piece of crap ever made.
the light bar and touch pad kill the battery which lasts less than 10 hours (i timed it from full charge)
I have gone through 3 of them in a year, even one speck of liquid gets on it and it is a potential write off because of the gaping holes in the front for the useless speaker goes direct to the pcb board.
then you have to deal with skin oils on the bottom of your controller, like you can get on a mouse too, making it sticky because of the terrible gloss material they used to make it with.
need alcohol to get rid of that.
you get full controller support with an xbox pad, I havent tried a xbone as my 360 is still a survivor, I would always stick with a xbox controller on PC
what non-emulated non-darksouls non-fighting games do you use gamepads for?
>>334552970
There was an official 360 controller without the retarded dpad
>>334552141
xbone controller is ass one of the worst dpads imaginable next to the 360s, anything is better then it even the shitty ps4 controller
>>334553196
This would be the dream controller if it had analog bumpers.
There is only one correct response
>>334553309
Hack n slash
>>334552372
>the xbone requires w10 for wireless
thats not true, can use it on 7 or 8 wirelessly
>>334553309
Devil May Cry
Xbone Elite>DS4>360>Xbone>DS3
>>334553379
Had one and sold it. The soft touch on it didn't feel right in my hands.
>>334552141
Xbox One controller with all the trimmings is better for a native Windows gaming experience, but it's expensive due to all the hidden costs.
Dualshock 4 is a little wonkier in terms of support, but it's just as comfortable and a lot cheaper. You will miss out on some nice features like headphone jack support, though.
It all comes down to how much you are willing to spend. Have $100+? Go for the Xbox One controller, the wireless dongle, the charge kit, the chatpad, etc. Have $50-ish? Get a Dualshock 4 and a USB Bluetooth adapter. Both are fine options and I think they are both very comfortable ergonomically.
>>334552847
I love you, pancake pussy.
>>334553379
>left bumpers are spring loaded and launch out of the controller just as its warranty runs out
No thank you.
>>334553379
>spending 120$ on a controller
>>334552141
well KB+M is the best in dark souls now that they've had three times to figure the fucking thing out
just switch left and right MB to be regular and strong attacks, set shift to be left hand weapon modifier
probably wouldnt work well with dual weapons but it works great for two handed weapons or sword/board
the ability to move the camera so accurately and fast, and aim your swings so precisely is unbeatable. add some macros for shield break and jump attack to the back and forward mouse buttons and you're set.
however, if you insist, I like the feel of the 360/One controller way better than dualshock, but microsoft chinsed out on them hardcore and i refuse to buy a controller every year when some knob starts not working quite right. DS3/4 are better built, but do have compatibility issues. 4 is better though its still mildly troublesome and has quirks, 3 is fucking horrible.
ive heard good things about the steam controller though
>>334553309
CSGO
Ive maintained a good 0.2 kd ratio with it.
These are all you need for emulation and console ports.
>>334553264
Ive cleaned my DS4 with water numerous times WHILE turned on and it hasnt failed me yet, original model too. I have a second ds4 that I rotate charging if I need too and for couch co op.
The only issue ive had is the rubbers on the sticks wearing away
>>334553258
>spending $60 on a controller
you fucking cucks
>Not using a Wii U pro controller
Why even live?
>>334553853
360 controller has a really shitty D-pad unless you do the coffee lid mod.
>>334553980
This is why you have to use the WUPC for emulation.
Xboner is a better version of the 360 controller. My only gripes with it are the bumpers are a bit stiff, and the d-pad could be positioned a bit more comfortably. Very minor complains.
>>334552141
has anyone run into the micro usb plug becoming loose and disconnecting itself on the xboner 1 controller (wired)? i've only had it for like 2 months
>>334552141
DS4Windows+Xbone files+DS4 works fine for me.
Just check on Hide DS4 in the program, and it should work.
>>334552141
My ds4 has problems with some games even making them unplayable, ds3 no problem xbox no problem
Ds3 no rumble still my favorite
>>334552585
I can tell by this pic that you're just fucking awesome to be around aren't you...
>>334554738
Nah, I'm an asshole.
I want a steam controller but I gotta wait for the version 2 since I am not a cuck
>>334552141
DualShock 3 is the best controller I ever used, responsive, lightweight, and precise.
I find the Xbox controllers quite horrid. The buttons are stiff and the whole controller feels like i'm holding a fucking rock. Cannot enjoy games with it.
DS4 is okay but I found it to be inferior to DS3.
>>334554936
>The buttons are stiff
this is the worst part about xbox controllers. finally someone who knows what i'm talking about.
>bought an xbone controller for pc
>eventually realize I don't have many games that require a controller on PC
>>334553980
>coffee lid mod
What's that?
>>334552141
steam controller or bust
>>334552141
Neither of those
>>334552585 got it right.
Is vanilla Xbone controller good?
Does analog have more motion than 360?
>>334552141
What's the best one for fighting games?
>>334552141
always go with sony
microshit can't make anything good
>>334555234
A fighting stick.
>>334553875
i clean mine with wet wipes, its fine, i was over exagerating, just that I fucked up a controller taking a sip of my beer a small drip fell out my glass, dripped onto te controller in my lap, right in the speaker holes and messed my controller up.
I managed to fix it, by taking it apart.
just they are temperamental.
my 1st one wasnt even manufactured right.
a friend has killed 2 of his within a year too.
>>334555153
Valve arent shipping to third worldia yet
>>334555101
you cut out a round piece from one of those clear plastic coffee lids to fit under the dpad
>>334552141
I dont have an xbox and I tried the controller at gamestop. That shit fits my hand perfectly. The DS4 feels lumpy to me. If i could use the Xb1 controller on my ps4, i would
Bone shills, pls leave.
>>334552141
DS4 compatibility is fine with DS4Windows.
>>334555358
And what does that accomplish?
>>334555450
just do it noob
>>334555234
Fighting Commander 4 by Hori
>>334555273
Nigga they don't sell them here.
>>334555436
Xbox controlles have native compatibility with windows and many games are already configurated for xinput.
>>334555576
Build one yourself.
How can anyone like the DS4 feeling like cheap plastic? It didn't upgrade much more over DS3
>is an anon jumps straight into ds3 instead of playing the others first episode
>>334552141
>DS
>KBM
You really are new to this aren't you?
Here's your complementary Drake Sword and summoned assistance.
>>334552141
DS4 has perfect game compatibility with InputMapper or whatever that adware is called. Just emulates a 360 controller.
>>334552261
/thread
>Best tier
Steam controller
>Symmetrical Good tier
DS4
WiiU Pro
>Asymmetrical Good tier
XBone
KB+M
>Emulation Okay tier
Gamecube
DS2
X360
>Give It Up tier
anything elseKB+M
>>334555884
>Give It Up tier
>KB+M
Unless you're playing FPS or RTS
>>334555884
>Steam controller
Ew.
Does it work well with Steam Link at least?
>>334555971
not anymore, with the right mapping and layouts the steam controllers way better for both.
>XBone triggers are angled way to up so it feels awkward to grip
>X360 Dpad is a disgrace against humanity
>DS3 has no good drivers
>There's a fucking touch screen in the middle of the DS4, making using "SHARE" and "OPTIONS" more weird. Not to mention they're fucking named SHARE AND OPTIONS. SHARE.
So close and yet so far
>>334552141
Xbone for PC.
DS4 has shoddy build quality. It's better than DS3 in many aspects and pretty decent gamepad on its own. You need to set it up on PC, Sony does not provide drivers for it, so you'll have to use Xbox controller emulator or use xmapper or something.
I like Xbone controller, fits right in in my hands. Some people have some strange grips, like using index fingers for both shoulder buttons and triggers, I heard bad things about this controller from them.
In the end it's a preference thing. You might consider 3rd party controllers, you aren't tied to these 2 on PC.
>>334556067
If you used itespecially with a proper configurationyou wouldn't be saying eww.
>>334556227
Does wireless configuration work well? I want to game on my living room streaming
I am willing to buy both if there is a good deal on em.
>>334556343
Don't know the range on the controller as I've only tested in my room.
But I've configured everything wireless. Same for when I did the software update on the controller.
But the ps4 controller and you'll start to question if all the praise for ps4 is just shills.
It's literal crap. Don't believe the shills.itsmade from shit plastic Nd the rubber wears off from the pad,it also has shit compadsbility
The DS4 thumbsticks are shit compared to the XB1 thumbsticks
>>334556343
the controllers work flawlessly with a steam link even using 4 controllers, the thing with the steam link is you need a pretty good wifi connection and a capable router. otherwise you can just plug the steam link into your router with an ethernet cord and youll have no problems.
tldr; internet speeds in america are too dogshit right now for the link to be perfect on most users wifi, but works fine with ethernet.
>>334552847
>actually needing the numpad
Are you an accountant or something??
>Have $100+?
>the chatpad,
>Have $50-ish? Get a Dualshock 4 and a USB Bluetooth adapter
How about you add a usb cable to DS4 if you take "chatpads" into consideration
Xbone + adapter kit and wireless will cost you 10 to 15$ more compared to DS4.
And don't forget nor all BT dongles work with DS4. And you need 1 per each if we will go full pedantic.
>>334556647
I wonder how I can check the connection. My living room is too far from my room for ethernet lines
>>334552585
Love mine, excited for the new version to release. Anyone who says it's shit hasnt used it
Have any of you seen the controller Nintendo released with Pokken Tournament?
Tried it at a friend's house, it's one of the most comfy controllers I've ever used, but would probably only have use in emulators
>>334556154
>the steam controllers way better for both.
>both
Yeah, like playing Starcraft 2 on Steam Controller so fun. Or going with that "like a trackball but worse" for Quake 3. Many people gave up on trackpad and last time I checked many used gyroscope for precise aiming in games like MGS5.
Steam Controller is a compromise, its worse than Controller and KB+M individually, but better than both at once.
In my expert* opinion, the stack rank of PC gamepads goes
>DS4
>Wii U Pro
>Xbone
>Steam
I like my old 360 pads more than the Xbone. Bumpers don't feel natural to press down. Was also a PITA to hook up to Win7.
How does one deal with the battery life of Steam controller? I would imagine haptic feedback drains it quickly.
>>334557261
the touchpad on its own is higher precision than a mouse. the gyro on its own is higher precision than a mouse. both together is even better. the haptic feedback gives your thumb the ability adjust to spacing and movement without having to think about it. also for rts specifically, mapping the left touchpad to be a zone for map panning is phenomenal youll never go back. you can even put a touch menu if you need stuff.
>>334553485
I love the dazzle pattern Xbone controllers. You can use a usb cable with one though, not as expensive as you make it out.
>>334557395
why does your list go from worst to best?
>>334557742
>Apple stick on 360 pad
You monster
Steam Controller masterrace checking in.
Good videos to watch for a a watch to the vidya game pad www.youtube.com/user/TheDarkAlly
>>334557742
Clean your shit
>>334557583
having the haptics on high for everything probably does drain it quicker, i use low haptics for everything except my first time playing a game with it because the haptics helps reinforce positioning for me - but ive changed my batteries like 3 times and i got my controller maybe a week or two after it came out
>>334557692
launch up SC2, there's a free edition and record yourself playing, even vs AI.
Playing Civ V on this thing is as realtime as you'll get.
Also, your thumb is inherently not as accurate as your arm.
>>334557742
Do yourself a favor and use a wet napkin an wipe that gunk out. Use a tissue to wipe it down. Use toothpicks for crevices.
Jesus.
>>334555971
>
You can get away with it, but why would you play an RTS with a game pad?
>>334557742
disgusting fatass
>>334557939
How good are rechargeable batteries?
Or I can just use it wired?
>>334556154
I like the controller, but KB+M is still way better for games that are designed with it in mind. The only thing it doesn't have over the Steam Controller is the comfy factor.
I have two steam controllers and they work just fine except for twin-stick shooters (Gungeon runs like shit).
The selling point is the configs. The haptic pad is okay, but I don't really want to play strategy games on my TV anyway because the interface is created for someone being 1 foot away from a monitor. Party games like Samurai Gunn, Duck Game, Nidhogg, and even Spelunky are pathetically easy to set up multiple people, quickly.
Wii U pro + mayflash adapter
Once you get used to the inverse button layout you'll never want to go back. Extremely comfy, great battery life
>>334557883
>>334558007
It's dust and most of that from moving recently but I'll go ahead and wipe it down tonight because it's been a good controller for over 5 years and does deserve a little love, I guess.
>>334552141
I like them both
>Steam controller
>still a number of configuration aspects that don't work and even still have placeholder text 6 months after release
Valve's attitude about having people develop whatever they want might be good for worker morale, but shitty for end users, and is probably the main reason I'm not getting a Vive if and when VR headsets actually make sense to buy.
>>334558259
Cleaning does extend their life too. Less of a need to unscrew it to get inner gunk.
>>334558087
You can use it wired. I've read of people doing that and the controller draining the batteries anyway though. If that's true it pulls power from them if available, which would be pretty retarded.
>>334552141
You can use the DS4 with these drivers if you want it so much, stupid sony faggot
http://emulation-general.wikia.com/wiki/SCP_Driver_Package
That way they make it so the DS4 is like a xbox controller.
>>334554936
How do you find the ds4 controller to be inferior to a ds3 controller? Whenever I go to a friends house that has a ps3 I just literally don't want to play on that uncomfortable shit.
>>334558224
you can change the button layout by holding Start and B for 3 seconds.
>>334555015
I really don't get why people like it. The buttons curve upward so it feels like you're pressing on small spikey marbles. It makes mashing the buttons a sure way to fuck up your fingers. And if course the D-pad is fucking garbage.
I also hate how the analog goes inward. It feels counter intuitive to how an analog should be and instead of allowing free flow of your thumb it 'traps' it. I don't like it's placement either, unorthodox as fuck and not in the good way.
>>334557583
I've had mine since launch. Use it off and on. Still
has the original AAs it came with and runs fine.
Battery life on the Steam Controller is ridiculously
long compared to most pads.
buy some chinese knockoff, they generally are okayish for half of the price(or less, with pc cord) if you're a cheapo. can find them in ae or ebay
>>334558379
The ps4 controller is bulkier and the buttons don't feel good. Also the trigger buttons are gimped and too much like the Xbox ones.
The touch pad is wasted space.
>>334558487
The hard buttons feels goods to me. Like they can take hard button presses and still feel firm.
The analog might need getting used to but it is solid and stays put under the thumb. I am a life long DS user and I dig the 360 design philosophy. Kind of like a better Dreamcast controller
>>334558392
Yeah, but I honestly prefer it like this. The A and X button should be between B and Y and the R-stick, feels right
>>334555450
It makes the D-pad more clicky and less mushy, and it makes it much easier to hit diagonals. It's actually useable for 2D games.
>>334557975
your thumb is touch and your arm is gyro. if you use both you use both. im not gonna make a video to teach you how to map something you can easily figure out on your own - or watch any of the hundreds of videos online.
>>334553379
> $120+ for a controller that STILL doesn't do half of what the Steam Controller and DS4 do
kek. Are people STILL letting Microsoft bait them into buying those shit-tier things? My sides...
>>334557742
Is there a spider nest between the stick and D-pad on that Xbox 360 controller? And what is an apple sticker doing on there? That controller needs a deep, spiritual cleansing.
Also, while an Xbox One controller works fine in USB mode, I don't trust that Micro USB connector to hold up indefinitely if it's always plugged in while being used, and some people prefer the convenience of wireless even if it means putting up with a little (borderline undetectable) lag.
>>334552141
Were it me, I'd go with a Dualshock 4 or a Steam Controller. You 'could' go with the 360 or Xbone pads, but personally
I can't go back to them. The asymmetry just feels weird now. That and the analog sticks are absolute trash.
Regardless, go with whichever feels more comfortable for you.
> inb4 GIT GUD AND LEARN TO USE KB&M
>>334559032
this is wonky as hell and never really works as it should, partially because it limits your movement. And waving a controller around is not as precise as just moving your mouse on a 2d plane. I know how it works, you aim in general direction with a touchpad, and then make corrections\aim down sights with gyro.
It's not good. gyro is wonky, as I said and touch pad is either too small or too sensitive, it's alike using a mouse on a surface size of a small napkin, you need to constantly lift if off or jack up sensitivity.
And in the end if you make it work, you get a worse KB+M experience in FPS games that work with normal controllers.
And you fall on your face in fast paced RTS games, like StarCraft 2. No amount of fiddling will give you precision and versatility of KB+M. It might work for low rank DOTA games, I haven't tried it.
Really, the only reason to own a Steam Controller is to avoid your country laws on flat rigid surfaces, like plywood. Otherwise KB+M is better and using SC is just a compromise. This shit also requires Steam running to work. Talk about locking you in a ecosystem. Apple can't even dream of that
>>334557817
>>334558007
>>334558086
>>334558350
>>334559280
I'll find some toothpicks to give it better tomorrow. Apple sticker was peeling so I removed it. Flash really highlights the dust in the crevices but all the more reason to give a deep cleaning when I can then.
>>334553309
Any third person shooter since they're unplayable for me with K+M, I can't do it. In fact, any third person game in general.
Racing games since I don't have a racing wheel.
Platformers and most 2D games.
Hell, the only thing I use K+M for are RTS/Simulator games and first person games.
Xbox one controller is aids
Get a PS4 or a 360 controller and call it a day
Dont fall for valve controller meme
>>334552847
Numpad is literally the most useless thing on a keyboard
Get yourself a TKL / 60%
>>334556180
Because on the PS4, pressing that Share button lets you record/stream/take pictures
The usual select button functions are on the touch pad
You're also complaining about it being named Options when it's the same on both Xbox controllers
>>334560075
This.
I strongly recommend the DS4.
>>334558087
>How good are rechargeable batteries?
The AA I bought last 1500 charge cycles
I bought my first one in December, it just died in April (~4 months) after using it to play Spelunky maybe 10 hours a week, plus random Dragon's Dogma and two playthroughs of Undertale.
Although that's not exactly heavy usage, the battery life is way, way better than something like the Wiimote, which I felt I was hemorrhaging batteries to maintain.
>>334560075
This guy has the best opinion in the thread
>>334560264
To clarify, I mean December->April was 1 cycle of the battery charge. 1500x4 months = 500 years
>>334552141
DS4
>>334558601
>and the buttons don't feel good
Are you joking? They feel perfectly fine outside of the share button which feels off and recessed. The triggers are by far the best part of the whole thing compared to the DS3 which require a third party add-on to fix their slippery, spongy garbage.
>>334560319
>tenkeyless fag
>right about anything
Nah.
>>334552141
>xbone controller
>turd
Honestly the best controller I've ever used; if you can afford an elite controller I highly suggest picking one up; it's better than sex.
>>334560828
About controllers
>tfw bought an elite controller
So sturdy yet comfy
i love this thing
feels better than the regular xbone controller and has the paddle buttons of the elite controller
>>334552141
I've heard good things about both of these controllers, so I suppose it only comes down to which one you find for cheapest.
>>334555617
I make DS4Windows boot along with windows so it's exactly the same as using a natively supported Xinput controller.
>>334560075
>tfw I'd like a tenkeyless but I actually use the numpad
Maybe I'll get one of those standalone numpads. I'd like it better on the left anyway.
>>334552141
Since you'll be using the face buttons most of the time in Dark Souls, the Xbone controller will be the more comfy option.
I have no idea how people stand having asymmetrical analog sticks. They just feel fucking weird having both thumbs in different positions.
DS3 controller for it's symmetry and god-tier D-pad. I really wanna try the DS4 one but I don't have consolefag friends.
Not even sure which I like best. Use Xbone pad mostly as the majority of games natively support it.
>>334552141
Your hands get tired not as fast with an xbone controller, especially if you've got big hands.
>>334552141
I'm using DS4 for Dark souls and it's fine.
>>334561039
good goy
typical /v/ consensus ITT
>>334553379
dude it's a controller not a fucking fashion accessory. What a piece of shit.
>>334556154
HAHAHAHAHAHA fuck off shill
>>334566417
>thread about controllers
>uses the word 'shill'
cancer killing /v/
>>334557742
>midnight forces
mah nigga
What's the best controller for people with carpal tunnel so bad they have to type with one finger? Even clicking my mouse too often hurts like holy hell.
typing this from my steam controller using dual keyboard mode. It's pretty based
>>334568224
ds4
The one thing I do like about the xbone controller is that it works with basically everything with 0 fiddling from me.
Not a fan of the stick placement though
>>334553309
>fighting games
>gamepad
DId you just fucking call me a grappler?
>>334553309
platformers
>its the best one out there, you just have to USE it right
That's such a red flag. I was wondering whther I should get a Steam Controller with DS3, but I guess I shouldn't bother now.
>>334570881
It's pretty fucking annoying yeah. I got one the other day and the controller is fucking great, but I'm still regretting the purchase. I have to set it up for basically everything, and I need to launch my non-Steam games through Steam to configure them which is a real pain in some cases. I was using it for the Overwatch weekend but I got tired of logging in manually every time due to the interaction of Steam and Blizzard's client.
It feels fucking fantastic though and controls really well when it does work with you. No controller I've ever touched has come near this thing in how good it is in every regard, but fuck, I'm prepared to let it gather dust forever because if I'm using a controller for something it's because I don't want to put in effort.
>>334552141
Xbone controller is good but it's not as good as the DS4, also it still hassling face buttons.
>>334571092
Tried this? https://gitlab.com/dennis-hamester/scd
You could just write a basic 360 controller configuration and let it run in the background.
does the XBox One controller fix the wobbly left analog stick of the 360 controller? Does it have some sane deadzone support?
>>334555054
it's not so much about which games require a controller, but which ones work well with a controller
>>334563410
>I have no idea how people stand having asymmetrical analog sticks
These people don't give both analog sticks the same importance. The primary controls are left analog stick and face buttons. For this use case the controller is perfectly symmetrical. The right analog stick is a bit of a secondary control, and hence put in the secondary position, just like the d-pad on the left.
I've used everything.
The DS4 controller is the best for Souls, actions and racing games or2hu.
>>334573701
>2hu
>not using a keyboard or arcade stick
>>334553264
You can turn the light bar off on PC though. Touchpad too but I don't know if that would even make a difference.
>>334563410
>my face when I use a SIXAXIS because rumble is a gimmick that isn't even consistently supported properly on PC anyways
>>334560075
Wow all of those are wrong except for the Steam controller. Xbone pad is a great pad, and a hell of a lot more durable than the DS4 pad. I have the DS4 and you can tell that it is lower quality after about a few months. Numpad is incredibly useful for doing work and playing games as well.
>>334553570
>>334559092
This shit is 120$?
What makes it so much better then the regular bone controller, in fact what makes it any different at all? Only difference I see is a different color palette
>>334575191
It has back paddles so you can press more buttons without taking your thumb off the right stick, which all controllers should by now. Plus some meme d-pad.
>>334553309
Literally everything I play on PC - FPS, TPS, The Secret World, even CSGO.
Steam controller>DS4>xbox
>>334557742
Holy shit that blue controller looks so nice I think I just nutted
>>334575540
>That xbox controller
Clean your fucking controller you primate
>>334575390
As well as better build quality through out the controller, including customizable triggers.
I borrowed a ps4 controller from a friend to play ds3. it's a good controller, but the start and select buttons are placed weirdly and the touch pad is annoying. But the fact that I can open one program and it works is great, does the same apply for xbox controller? Does it come with a cable? It's the wireless contraption expensive, I guess I need that to make it work as well
>>334575925
Well the xbone controller has drivers on the PC so you don't even have to open a program. Yes it comes with a charging cable.
can you use the xbone elite controller on windows 7? What's required for that?
>>334556930
maybe he plays roguelikes?
>>334576095
Thanks. I do have some 360 controllers around, does it work the same way? I. E just plug and play?
>>334552141
I still don't feel the need to change my 360 controller.
Still the best
>>334576380
I love my 360 controller in concept, but the left stick and the lack of deadzone are frustrating me to no end. Considering an elite controller, if they are actually built more durable. Also the paddles look like an interesting extension
>>334556930
flying aircraft in san andreas
>>334576797
arokees
I'm interested in the steam controller, but I don't like the button placement
For anyone that owns them, how does it feel to use?
>>334552658
>Getting rid of the touch menu instanty
Seems like it's globally hated.
>>334557692
You fucking what? I'm a fan of the steampad but for gods sake be realistic.
>>334579504
It's just fucking awful to lock on with.
>>334552779
>Steam controller
>Not the best for adventure games, third person games and emulators.
https://youtu.be/zH3Wz9qPyc0
>>334552141
DS3 is the best controller for most genres, except maybe first person shooters. Use Xbone controller for those.
xbone elite, ofc
>>334576998
The button placement is for backwards compatibility if it is needed. Valve has said that people generally move away from the ABXY and thumbstick once they get used to the controller. Personally I think it's a comfy controller even if you use the thumbstick and buttons.
What's up with elites d-pad, it looks really bad. Nintendos dpad patent expired a few years ago, what gives?
>>334552141
just get a 360 controller
>>334580456
People have commented that the concave dpad works well for not straining your thumb. Personally I have not used it, but it seems like a neat idea.
>>334552141
I like Steam controller best desu.
But it's not for everyone. If you want a controller then get a controller, if you want a steam controller then get it.
Steam controller is not really a substitute for a normal gamepad, it's for people like me who dont like using a normal gamepad.
It also takes a long time to explore all the customization options available in steam controller and to know when it's best to use what
>>334580650
But what about emulators and such? I can't imagine it would be comfortable in longer sessions
>>334580824
Steam controller is pretty good for that, you can make the dpad touchpad take input from touch only, you don't have to press it at all.
I use this for Morrowind as well since it doesn't support controller so movement has only 8 directions. Also I have set it up so that the ring is mostly just "WASD" etc. but when I move my finger to the very edge of the Dpad it makes it Shift+WASD so the character runs.
>>334580824
>>334580974
Were talking about xbone elite
>>334559812
>This shit also requires Steam running to work.
windows doesn't detect it without steam? i'm sure you could get joy to key working with it somehow.
>>334552141
Ignoring the console, the Xbone controller is my favorite controller of all time. It feels solid, it's got a nice weight distribution, and it's even got those nice little ridge things along the edge of the thumbsticks.
By comparison, the DS4 feels like it would break if you stare at it too hard. I had one for about a month, and the fucking R2 trigger started squeaking at me. Also, is there any application for the touchpad or gyroshit that doesn't feel like a tacked on afterthought?
Why does /v/ like to pretend the Dualshock controllers aren't some of the best controllers ever made?
>360 cotntroller
That piece of shit is abysmal on the basis of its D-Pad alone.
>>334552847
My keyboard has a removable numpad. Spent the last 4 years in my drawer
>>334581064
When steam's not running the controller acts as a generic keyboard and mouse for the computer. People call it "Lizard mode" named after https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triune_brain
>>334568224
You shouldn't be playing video games if it's that bad. Learn to take care of your hands, jesus christ.
For sure the Wii U Pro controller. It's great. It takes a bit of setting up but once you've got it set up, it's so goddamn convenient
>80 hr battery life
>Great analog sticks
>xinput for great compatibility
>super comfortable
>wireless over bluetooth which I have built in
The only real downside is it's lack of analog triggers and that's really only for driving games and even then I still choose it to play them.
Highly recommended.
>>334553351
While I agree and am not defending digital triggers, what use would this actually be?
I don't even find I need analog triggers in racing games really and that's the only use case.
It's a shame the Wii U didn't get analog triggers, they could have had the perfect controller on their hands. Here's hoping they put them on for NX
>>334560739
sauce?
>>334552141
How do they keep fucking up 3rd person controls on the PC ffs. There are so many examples of perfect keyboard/mouse setups in other games.
>>334552372
>the 360 is still the best controller for pc
360 controller is complete shite for ds
>>334556180
Wii U Pro is the only way.
![image_735[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kZTb6uI.jpg "image_735[1].jpg")
>>334552847
Quickfire TK masterace
I like my roguelikes
Yes, I do know VI keys too
Thinking about getting Xbone controller but...
Controller cost about 45€
Plug and rechargeable battery make it cost about 60€
USB adapter for wireless makes it cost about 20€ more.
So about 80€ for it.
Still worth it?
Also, how is the steam one?
>>334552658
Did you manage not to break it with this game=
>>334581046
I know.
I wasn't
>>334552658
>DASIII has native Steam Controller support
...nice. Well done, From.
While the DS3's size isn't optimal I still think it's an excellent controller. When playing a difficult game that requires high amounts of dexterity I'd choose it over the fat 360 controller any day.
>>334581224
>>334553351
>preferring analog mush
There is no good reason for triggers to be analog. Digital is better for nearly every genre of game
>>334581092
Before I got my Steam controller I used the DS4's touchpad to aim/look in shooters.
Surprisingly responsive, moreso than you'd expect at first.
>>334552141
Can I actually play fightan games with the XBONE controller? because it's impossible to do so with the 360 one
>>334552141
Xbox controllers have highest compatibility but ive never been a fan of how mushy and slow the face buttons feel, ps4 probably feels better but youll need a third party driver/application to get it working.
Personally im waiting for the sixense STEM controller, everything else fails to impress.
>>334580340
>Valve has said that people generally move away from the ABXY and thumbstick once they get used to the controller.
The best decision you'll ever make with the SC is taking a couple hours to practice on a layout with left pad as move / jump on click and right pad as look / face buttons on click.
Once you're used to it your thumbs will hate going back to controllers where they ever have to leave the sticks.I went back to play Bayonetta and it took me longer than I care to admit to stop trying to jump by clicking LS.
Also, gyro fine aiming for any game that needs precision aiming and fast camera movement (shooters mostly). That's a new one but I've been trying it and it's surprisingly responsive, and I know Splatoon folks have been singing the praises of it for a while now so I'm sure it's not foreign to everyone.
>>334576173
? Why should you need a num pad when you have arrow keys
>>334582290
From version was pretty garbage, this is my own configuration.
>>334582065
Haven't broke it.
>>334579504
It seems like it would be better for games likes RTS or some RPGs, but not something like this.
>>334582424
>There is no good reason for triggers to be analog
Yeah you sure know it better than those mult-billion dollar companies investing years of money and research into designing their controllers.
>>334582424
Driving games, flight games, any vehicle games benefit massively from analog triggers. If you want click-shooting just use bumpers. The bumpers were used for shooting on the DS1/DS2/DS3 anyway. The triggers were for secondary usage.
>>334583804
Yeah, because it's worth fucking over the vast majority of games for a couple niche genres that already have preferred input methods. Wheel, hotas, that big ass steel battalion controller, etc
>>334582719
I'm still struggling using the left pad to move. Currently playing through SM64 with it and I'm changing something about the config after every second star.
>>334582719
>Gyro aim
I couldn't do this, Even playing KF2 I couldn't use the gyro it just feels off to me. Plus I'm already pretty damn accurate with just the pad aiming.
>left pad for movement
Haven't tried this yet, I've been very happy with using the left stick to move and I'll use it's click button for things like sprint (similar to how I would do it in most shooters)
Have a DS4, it's great since I can use the touchpad. That, and I just like it.
However, I got it around launch and the rubber on the sticks fucked up eventually. None of my ancient controllers ever had such problems.
When replaced them with xbone sticks I fucked up and broke the touchpad. I may end up getting another someday because I miss the functionality and I also ended up fucking something up with L2/R2. Heard the latest models of DS4 don't have the "shit sticks" problem.
>>334585267
shit always sticks, got nothing to do with a controller
>>334552141
>xbox one controller
>a turd
>it looks like
What the fuck are you going on about?
>>334552707
MY BRO
>>334585657
I don't know what you're talking about.
On low maintenance from SNES, to PS1-3, to N64 and Gamecube all my controllers for these consoles have had no issues.
Just USED the DS4 and the sticks wore down. I know I messed up the triggers myself because a part flung out and I couldn't fit it back in. Whoops. I'm no good with such things.
>>334583804
I can see your point with vehicles, but I'm generally either holding the trigger all the way down or not at all anyways, so i don't really see a benefit to analog apart from I like how it feels as a trigger.
dualshock is garbage and using r1 and l1 buttons for shooting was absolutely shit terrible.
Whoever thought that was ok should be euthanised.
>>334583993
Few people buy expensive niche peripherals that they have to set up. Also this includes any game which involves driving or vehicle-piloting, such as GTA, which benefits from analog triggers.
>>334573635
That makes no fucking sense whatsoever dipshit
>>334585820
shit sticks. it's a natural property of shit. It'll stick to anything, including controllers, but that is true for every controller, and not a property of them
It's weird that the XBone controller feels cheaper than the DS4. It was the other way around last gen.
