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Anyone else just bored with the Souls formula now that we've had 5 games?

I finished up Smouldering Lake and I feel no drive to continue with DaS3. It's a good souls game but these have been coming out every fucking year. They all play and feel so similar.
I'm getting back to my 2nd Witcher 3 playthrough and it's been more fun.


>you will never get that Dark Souls 1 for the first time feelio again
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me too familla, i'm bored
>there has been a souls game every year for the last 3 years
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>>334544110
Same, though I'm glad 3 came out to make up for 2
I won't be able to handle another one, once you git gud at one, the rest are generally also pretty easy.
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It all went downhill ever since the PC Petition Race got their fat hands on our beautiful game
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>git
>gud
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>>334544389
Kindly fuck off with your inflammatory console wars shit
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It does feel like a bit of burnout. Not too much for me since I've only played 3, but it's reaching the point where it's too formulaic and won't be worth shelling out the 60 bucks for each new one. I hope they move in a very new direction at some point.
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>>334544110
No, i fucking love playing knitgh on a quest games either being souls games or any other rpg.
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Can't say I feel it. Been playing since Demon's Souls and I'm having a goddamn blast. Of course, the feeling of having everything feel fresh and mysterious is gone, but it's still a lot of fun to play through.
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>>334544110

well its the last one so...

and they also confirmed that they're working on a new open world Kings Field so that will be cool.
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>>334544267
> mfw Dark Souls is turning into the hardcore Call of Duty
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They're taking less risks, not only in terms of design but also gameplay. The original Demon's Souls had a weird undertone of homoeroticism that never explicitly emerges in the story. In Dark Souls they had an edge, but they focus on the grim dark shit rather than any complex symbolism or menace. By Dark 2 it was all gone, same with 3 and BB.
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>>334545986
Please elaborate on homoeroticism, missed it going through. Not refuting, wanna hear your take.
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>>334545850
I remember when I couldn't afford more than 1 device too. Must suck to be poor forever.
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I had that feeling during Dark Souls 2 because of how shitty it was.

2 is still the only Souls game i haven't finished. Bloodborne rekindled my love for the series and i've nearly beat Dark Souls 3 and i loved every minute of it.
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>>334546086
Not demon's souls but Dark Souls did have a tranny
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I'm playing through 1 for the first time and it's my first souls game. Feels good man. It's a great game. Probably will play 3 next because I only have an xbone.

>>334546193
Why is 2 shitty?
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>>334546549
>first Souls game
>not Demon's Souls
What the fuck are you doing.
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>>334546183
Well maybe you wouldn't live in a shitty appartment if you managed your money better dumbass.
Things does not amount to status even if corporations would love you to believe that
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>>334544948
While the mechanics are certainly well known, I still get a "fresh" feeling from exploring the environments and being surprised at what I find. I was floored by by Smouldering Lake when I came across it
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>>334546705
What...
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>>334546086
>The Fat Officals being sadistic rapists
>Maneater's idle animation
>The adjudicator representing a top-bottom relationship that is shown through the body language of the actual boss, and the way they are painted on the shield
>Old monk's proclivities involve spending time with the "altar caretakers" and how he wraps his disciples in his waist robe. References to Catholic Church scandals
>The penetrator moaning after killing the FO, on top of his name and phallic weaponary
>The muddy woman mentions that the people of the swamp have "found ways to do without ladies"

This is just from my memory. I could be wrong, it's just how I perceived it.
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>>334546825
The little girl in your head is dancing and happy, how fucking hard is it to understand that goddamn.
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>>334544110
Same. DAS3 is superior to DAS2 in almost every conceivable way, yet I had absolutely no hype for it.

I'm at Elder Prince now and am having real trouble motivating myself to go further, knowing that it'll be the same exact shit I've played for hundreds of hours already with very minor variations thrown in as if FROM where trying to sustain the illusion of a fresh, "new" game.
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>>334546549
Think of it like pizza

Dark Souls 2 is like if you told someone you like pizza, so they brought you several little caesars pizzas

1 & 3 are like singular pies from your favorite local place(s)
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I'd like to see a sci-fi souls game with like laser swords and all weird and wonderful futuristic tech weaponry and environments. It's a good excuse to have really contrasting environments because "different planets" or whatever.
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>>334547335
I'm glad youre speaking to us in terms fatbois posting on 4chins on a saturday night will understand

*opens dominos app*
*farts loudly*
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BB spoiled me

The enviroments and enemies just seem bland

Still a great game
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>>334547507
That's pretty ebin
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They just haven't had the same level of attention, detail and care since DS1. In dark/demons you felt like every step you took was carefully and precisely designed. I really just don't get that feeling in DS2+. Something else that really bothers me is the reduced travel time to retry a boss. It's more about spamming attempts than it is the pressure of everything being on the line. There's basically no chance you'll beat a boss on the first try which wasn't completely true in Demon/Dark... so when I get to the boss I just kind of feel, "well here we go" instead of "oh god my angus isn't ready for this". Idk, it feels too plain and predictable, as if you already know how hard they want a boss to be before you do it, instead of its difficulty reflecting the area and impacting your sense of relief. Again, detail...
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>>334546932
Ok I gotta play Demons soul
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>>334547524

It seems as though these games are not suited to sequels.

DaS was great. DeS was great. BB was great. DaS 2 and 3 were terrible.

Adding new lore on top of old lore seems to ruin these games for me.

I'd love to see this >>334547507
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>>334547507
We can do better
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>>334544110
iktf. stopped playing ds3 right before the final boss. it's just boring and it was a pretty meh experience. at least the devs figured the same.
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>>334547507
>Souls formula
>Non-western inspired setting/aesthetic

Pretty disgusting desu
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>>334547335
>food analogies
>inaccurate food analogies

Dark Souls 3 is the same pizza Dark Souls 1 was, except with very few, very minor topping alterations, incredibly safe "for the fans" approach, absolutely no risks taken, feels almost like a remake. Dark Souls 2, on the other hand is a pizza with clashing toppings, which while making it worse gameplay-wise also makes it much more interesting than DS3 ever will be.
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>>334547742
3 is not terrible by any means. Its a fine sendoff for the series.

I think you're just jumping on the post Dark Souls 2 hate bandwagon.
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>>334545728
>open world

why
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>>334547742
>Oblivion was shit
>Now Skyrim is shit, Oblivion was awesome
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>>334544110
that's because the Witcher 3 is a superior game compared to Dark Souls 3
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>>334547904

It just doesn't feel like Dark Souls 3. It feels like Dark Souls 2-2. Lot of gameplay elements and design choices and the like that take from 2 rather than 1. And the lore feels so transitory and useless. It feels like a world sitting over a world sitting over a world, but not in a cool way. In a "I'm having trouble giving a shit" way.

And there's little niggling things that are ticking me off that are just eating away as they add up. Like fucking ladders. They fucking fixed that shit in BB. Why are we now not even allowed to sprint up them? We've gone backwards 2 GAMES.
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>>334547971
Games don't exist in a vacuum. Shit and awesome are relative terms.
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DeS > DaS > DaS3 > BB > DaS2

This is objectively the right list.
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>>334548394

Nope.

DaS>DeS>BB>DaS3>DaS2
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>>334544110
>I'm getting back to my 2nd Witcher 3 playthrough and it's been more fun.
bait
kill yourself
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>>334548394
DeS > DaS > DaS3 = BB > DaS2
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>>334548394
>DeS
>game with the fag shit in it

No thanks.
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>>334548394
Bloodborne is better than 3. Its close but its better.

The only reason anyone would dispute otherwise is because of console war bullshit.
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I think it would be a bit more exciting if enemies weren't so retarded.
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>>334548394
>DaS > DaS3 > DeS > BB > DaS2

ftfy
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>>334548224
>It feels like a world sitting over a world sitting over a world, but not in a cool way. In a "I'm having trouble giving a shit" way.

Ditto It feels like they had a cool concept with the Frost and Tree theme going on but then they have to shove in the Dark and the Abyss and The Flame and everything from the prior games and the game loses it's personality.
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>>334548518
I hate BB's weapon and most enemy designs. The game feels like an broody edgelord anime with some lovecraft thrown in, because it's popular.
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>>334544503
He's not entirely wrong
The souls fanbase pre-PC was humble, dedicated, and actually cared about the games
Now for the most port the fanbase consists of praise the sun memers and people who only think souls games are about their difficulty
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>>334548518
this
also bloodborne focuses in what is more important in a souls game
the close combat
it doesn't have fancy spells beacause in the end they are useless and clunky and if you try to play dark souls 3 as a mage you will get destroyed
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>>334548892
>if you try to play dark souls 3 as a mage you will get destroyed

No, you're just bad.
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>>334548767
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>>334545973
>>334544110
>>334544287

Isn't the series over now?
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>>334548692

This. See >>334547742

I really wish they'd just scrap the lore and do something different each time. DaS2 and DaS3 would have been much better off without the baggage of the last game.

Also, I haven't finished the game (I'm close), but I have NO idea how you can hold the opinion that DaS2 is bad but DaS3 is a great game. The world design feels so fucking linear and shitty and like a branching straight path that never folds in on itself, ever. It feels like the DaS2 team.
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This game sucks.

If you haven't already, don't pay for it.
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>>334548986
no you are just in denial
unless you grind a lot
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>>334549128
Stop trying to pass off your shitter opinion as fact, thanks.
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>>334548767
>The game feels like an broody edgelord anime with some lovecraft thrown in, because it's popular.
> because it's popular.
>lovecraft
>popular in games
wew
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>>334549209
here is your reply tryhard
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>>334548394
>>334548465
>>334548505
>>334548573
>>334548573

DaS2 being last is probably the only consensus I have ever seen on this site
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>>334548496
this is right, depending on whether you think DaS or DeS deserves top spot
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>>334548573
>DaS3 better than DeS

Are you fucking RETARDED?
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>>334548505
>DaS
>game where your character has an orgasm every time he gets hit
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>>334548884
Did you miss the four lore threads we had just last night? The fanbase is still plenty caring.
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I've only ever played the first Dark Souls (which I loved) and I am having a blast with 3, although I wish they kept it a bit closer to the original mechanically (I can't poise + greatsword my way through everything).
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Kind of but at least it delivered on this fight.
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>>334549775
>Playing in human form
>Not embracing hollowing

Bet you linked the fire too, you little cuck.
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>>334547894
To further your analogy, Dark Souls 1 is Medium, Dark Souls 2 is a Large, and Dark Souls 3 is a small.
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>>334549664
Time to take off those nostalgia goggles, buddy. Most of what DeS has going for it compared to other entries can be written down to its charm and atmosphere. Mechanically it's a considerably worse game.
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>>334548478
witcher 3 is a flat out better and more engaging game. 10/10 CDPR, cyberpunk when????
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>>334550173
Literally everything you said is wrong.
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>>334550249
Good talk.
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>>334549664
DeS is a cool proof of concept and was great at the time, but then DaS came along expanded on everything and blew it out of the water.

Artorias of the Abyss DLC is the absolute peak of the series and will never be topped.
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>>334550173

It's definitely rougher, but it's a LOT more tighter than most other entries.

Art from adversity, and they did a lot with the relatively little money they had. Now, they have loads of dosh and they just make a bloated game with an unbelievable amount of useless options, of objectively wrong choices that merely give the illusion of breadth.
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>>334550391
DeS and DaS are arguable in terms of quality.

DaS3 is a joke compared to those two games
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Are there references to homosexuality in DaS3?
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>>334550570

Horace.
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>>334550570
yeah.

only fags would keep getting duped into buying the same game again
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>>334550570
Only when you play it.
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>>334550638
Is he a BDSM reference?
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>>334548394

BB > DaS > DeS > DkS3 > DkS2.

Objective list here anon.
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>>334550391

DaS has strictly worse gameplay.
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>>334550778

See >>334548465

Anon, I'd be called a Sonygger around here and even I think BloodBorne has it's problems. Namely, the fact that PvP is dead because it's godawful in that game. It belongs below DaS and DeS
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>>334550860
No, it really doesn't.

Undead Burg ----> Anor Londo is a fucking masterclass in game design that hasn't been topped by any game since and is better than DeS by itself.
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How did they manage to drop the ball so badly?

After using the "B team" excuse with DaS2, what the FUCK happened
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>>334550391
>then DaS came along expanded on everything

>expanded on the underwhelming last section of DeS by making everything after Anor Londo pretty shit
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>>334544110
just got to abyss knights and I'm feeling the same way desu
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>>334551101
>what the FUCK happened
They made a good, yet uninspired sequel. Why the fuck do fags like you feel the constant need to blow everything out of proportion and fabricate outrage? Game is derivative but good, get over it.
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>>334551101

With the way the game feels, there are obviously a lot of people from DaS2 still working at From.

The list of credits between the two games has a lot of familiar faces that were absent on Bloodborne and DaS

I hope someone goes over and sees just who was involved.
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RANK THE HUBS

1. The Nexus
2. Firelink Shrine v1
3. Hunter's Dream
4. Shrine v2

999999. Majula
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>>334551280
folks, these are the type of cucks who keep spending $60 on shit games
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>>334544110
Just move onto the Monster Hunter series. Those games are actually hard and not just marketed that way and the combat is far superior to that in Souls games.
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>>334551335

Hunter's Dream is over Firelink Shrine v1 because Firelink Shrine's shrine maiden is silent for half the game, and the shrine goes away if you're not a shitter.
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>>334551442
>3ds

no thanks famalam
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>>334544110

Nope, after fighting the Twin Princes atop Lothric Castle and finishing the game, I can assure you I would gladly accept a Souls or Souls-like game made by From Software every year, provided it's the A-Team developing them.
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>>334551442

>former monster hunter creators get hired on to make DaS2
>obviously a lot of their decisions make their way into DaS3
>Shills get paid to direct people to monster hunter after everyone thinks DaS is a shit series.

THOSE DEVIOUS BASTARDS
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>>334551487
It's good that she's silent because that means you don't have to skip a bunch of stupid pointless text coming from a dumb whore with 0 personality that has no reason to be in the game at all.
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>>334551418
Nice try, but I haven't bought a From game since DaS2. But why am I even explaining myself to you, you probably haven't even played a From game since DaS2.
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Yeah after finishing ds2. Didn't even bother with ng+

Tried bloodborne but it was more of the same shit. Not gonna buy ds3
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>>334551626

You take that back, anon.

You take that back RIGHT NOW
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>>334551694
>look at me, I pirate games

even more of a faggot
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>>334551063
only if you get the master key and skip the depths
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>>334551720
Her accent is stupid too
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Bloodborne's the best faggots

Dark souls 2 is the worst

Rest is just opinion
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>>334551720
Fuck off pancakes. Don't you have a thousand demon cocks to clean, you impure harlot?
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>>334551752
>I don't even play the videogames I shitpost about on an anonymous videogame board

Truly the lowest form of scum.
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>>334551858
gotta lie to yourself about that PS4 purchase
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>>334551984
>y-y-you don't even play video games!!!

Sick retort dumbass
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>trying to replay DaS1
>remember how shitty everything becomes after Anor Londo
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>>334552016
How does it feel knowing you will never ever get to play it and found out if he's lying or not?
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>>334552150
I was going through 1 again in anticipation of 3 and right now I have to choose between Tomb of Giants, Duke's Archives and Izalith

there's literally no right choice
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>>334552150
Pretty easy and quick to blast through the last bits and get back to the good stuff in NG+
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>>334544110
Are you me? I got that same sense of "ugh" after Smouldering Lake. Just push forward anon. Most of the quest lines start to end after that and that helped keep me motivated (though the Yhorm fight kinda took it away again...
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>>334546604
I think the chances of someone who currently owns only an Xbox one having had a Playstation 3 is pretty slim
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>>334551063

Gameplay retard.

>Worst movesets in the series.
>Poise is an abomination that degenerated the game into BS spam/R1 smash with zero pokes, spacing, etc. Literally the worst PvP in the series.
>DWGR is an abomination.
>Weapons with incredibly slow whiff animations completely taking the fun out.
>Weapons in a class having variable speed making some utterly useless.
>Kick is completely useless.
>Status build up during roll invincibility, but ticks during invul do no damage.
>Weapons horrifically nerfed from E3 demo.
>Etc.
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>>334552583
I guess, but it's still a massive chore, on top of that the multiplayer servers on PC have been down ever since DaS3 released, so I can't even break up the monotony with some co-op.

>>334552494
I hope you opened up that Izalith shortcut, brah
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>>334552494
Just do the DLC and stop playing like every sane person
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>>334550995

>PvP.

Only one game had PvP worth a fuck; DeS. It hasn't been good since.
It also had the worst main game except for Dark Souls 2.
BB has the best atmosphere, combat, movesets, bosses, narrative, etc out of the 3 good games.
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>Dude, have you guys played this game called Dark Souls? It's like, really hardcore, like those old Nintendo games that were really hard. You know, like Ninja Gaiden, um, Ghosts and Goblins, games like that. It's like, this Japanese take on Western...

Dark Souls evangelists needed to shut the fuck up since day one.
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>tfw Dark Souls 2 lacked good memes
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I got to give props to from for actually saving the best boss fights for last. They didn't manage to blow their load to early this time.
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>>334545728
>>334547904

Dark Souls 3 is not the last Souls game. Quit spreading this bullshit.
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>>334553268

I hope you're not implying SoC is good...
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>>334553385
He was alright but no I was referring to the prince and the nameless king and champion Gundyr.
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>>334553358
How is it bullshit? Miyazaki said it himself.
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>>334551752
He's right though. Stay mad fuckboy
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>>334547894
>2 more interesting than 3
Nice shit opinion, it's the most bland Souls game by far
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>>334553797
And then he clarified.

http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/dark_souls_3/news/dark_souls_3_isnt_the_last_game_in_the_series_miyazaki_clarifies.html
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>>334551289
The game literally feels nothing like DaS 2
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>>334547910
King's field IS open world though...
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>>334552934
>Izalith shortcut

you know, I've played through the game a couple times and I've never understood how people amass such a large number of humanities, it might be because I can't stand souls pvp but I never find myself with more than 10 on me at a time
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>>334554202
It does feel a lot like Dark Souls 2, though. It has a very similar adventure 'round the world feeling, the world is designed in a very straightforward way where you progress in a pretty linear fashion compared to 1 too. Then there's the warping between bonfires and huge emphasis on group combat.
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>>334553003
>activating the dlc

how is anybody supposed to guess the correct order of actions?
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>>334544110
I have that dark souls 1 feel and I feel I fucking suck. Please help me >git gud
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>>334554414
You get "liquid" humanities for killing bosses in co-op, plus you should have close to 20 assuming you loot everything in a given zone.

If all else fails just farm the rats in the depths, might take a while, but sure beats running through Demon Ruins and having to fight two shitty bosses.
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>>334554602
Use a fast weapon
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>>334544110
I have getting sick of it after the first DaS. For me DeS is just slightly better than DaS, though I guess I'm just baised because I probably spent a thousand hours on DeS. Glad I stopped giving a shit about this series. Maybe if they actually focused on making a good game instead of "wow le so difficult!" game I would care again.
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>>334544287
We're still pretending like Dark Souls 2 was bad, I guess.
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>>334554431
The levels are very open and there's tons of shortcuts
You can literally fight the Dancer as soon you reach Emma if you want and go to Lothric Castle/Garden, there's also more choice after Road of Sacrifices
There's not many enemy groups you can't split in some way. The enemy placement is is pretty fair
It draws very little from DaS 2
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>>334554402

KF2 definitely isn't. Ancient Battlefield, Passage of Thieves, Guyra's Chamber and similar areas were fucking labyrinths. Almost all of KF2 was a maze...
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>>334554839
It was bad.

Actually, no. It's not bad, if it were bad it'd at least invoke a response.
It's so painfully mediocre year it's even worse than being bad. It's just boring.
When you compare it to every other game in the franchise, it's just do bland.
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>>334544110
I was bored with the souls formula about 2/3rds of the way through Dark Souls. The minor gameplay improvements it made to Demon's Souls weren't enough to carry the weak ass level design and pacing.
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>>334544110
My only souls experience was Bloodborne. I put almost 200 hours into that and have an itch to go back. I thought Dark Souls 3 would feed that itch, but it just doesn't feel as good as Bloodborne did. Like you said, the same formula. A formula I learned REAL well from getting my ass kicked so much in Bloodborne. DaS3 seems, outside of the Dancer, much easier. Some of the later bosses can still be fun and I enjoy co-oping. But I dunno. I feel like if I had just stuck with Bloodborne, I'd be good. I'm thinking of trading my DaS3. I kind of want to keep it, cause it does have a lot going for it. I don't think it's a bad game or anything. But for me, the experience has been meh. And I have a hard time seeing myself wanting to replay it anytime soon. Bloodborne I love. It earned a special place in my heart. So, I can see going back. Makes me wonder if I'll be interested in a future 'souls' type game.
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Ive just made it to the Road of Sacrifices and Im tired of the game. Ive been invading since. Will probably PvP until the popularity fades and then play a different game entirely. Come back to it later.
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>>334555180
>dark souls
>weak ass level design

here's your (you)
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>>334554873
>You can literally fight the Dancer as soon you reach Emma
Yeah, and that's the only major sequence breaking you can do in the game. The choice after Road of Sacrifices is not really a choice because you have to do the cathedral to progress. The areas hardly ever loop back around into other areas. There is one entrance from a previous area, and one exit to the next area. Compare that to the early parts of Dark Souls 1.
>There's not many enemy groups you can't split in some way
So Dark Souls 2 all over again? Pulling enemies to you is even more tedious because of the numbers involved here. In the dungeon you have something like 8 jailkeepers circling a hall at once, it's retarded. Or how about the Garden with its incredibly strong enemies everywhere that no sane person would actually fight?
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>>334548884
He is thou and so are you, the game and the memes would have been the same regardless of pc getting it or not.
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>>334544110
>every fucking year
>Demon's Souls 2009
>Dark Souls 2011
>Dark Souls 2 2014
>Dark Souls III 2016
>Fell for the Bloodborne meme.
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>>334555674
>Fell for the Bloodborne meme
Fucking kill yourself
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>>334544110
Kill yourself, dumb frogposter
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Dark Souls 3 was fun but it felt like a huge rehash.

The only thing that was fresh were the boss fights.

>last level may as well literally be 1-3 from Demon's Souls
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>>334555767
no u
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>>334547524
I wasn't into BB because I hated the setting. I'm loving DaS3 so far.

Different strokes.
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>>334544110
Bloodborne was a nice change of style. I still think combat wise is the best of all. Its starting to feel same after no many tough i agree. But this is the last one i hope. Imagine that team 100% invested in a new series. I would be awesome. Maybe a Ciberpunk futurist DArk souls would be nice.
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>>334544110
Yeah. Unfortunately, I've been so spoiled by Dark Souls and La Mulana it's been hard to go back to a lot of the games I used to play.

>>334555406
Not him but I used to think that "weak level design" was a meme, with the obvious exceptions of Demon Ruins and Lost Izalith. Then I actually got around to doing the DLC along with Painted World of Ariamis and they blew New Londo, Tomb of the Giants, Dukes Archives, etc. out of the water. The second half of DaS is weaker than the first half and that's a damn shame because Nito, the Four Kings, and Gywn are so fucking cool. Also would have preferred if Miyazaki did music for all the DaS levels like he did with Ash Lake.

>>334548884
>" and people who only think souls games are about their difficulty"
They sure aren't about the unlikable NPCs with 10-20 lines of dialogue nor the wasted potential of the lore/backstory you reggin
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>>334556150
I'm not the one who thinks a great game is a fucking meme, so no. You kill yourself, champ.
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DeS > BB = DaS [marginally >] DaS 3 >>>>>> DaS2
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>>334556905
>champ
no u
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>>334548394
DaS > DaS3 > BB > DeS > DaS2
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So is Usurping the Fire and becoming the Lord of Hollows[/spoilers] supposed to be a good thing?

I don't understand.
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>>334554839
>We're still pretending like Dark Souls 2 was bad
Right? I can't believe someone would actually unironically hold an opinion other than mine, they have to be pretending!
Fucktard
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>>334557639

You're king of the hollows with that ending.

You basically lead a cult of undead and have ensured that no one ever dies or something.
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I've just come to realize something.

I miss Maiden in Black.
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>>334546932
Never have I been as afraid of a gay enemy in a video game as I am of the Penetrator
inb4 git gud faggit he isn't even hard phrasing
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>>334547673
>In dark/demons you felt like every step you took was carefully and precisely designed
I'll have to disagree
>Izalith
>non-scaling items being worthless after NG
>Maneaters (difficult because bullshitty, poorly programmed, and environment, not because they're actually difficult to kill)
>Flamelurker (buggy motherfucker)
Don't get me wrong, I love DeS and DaS. Two of my favorite games ever. But sometimes I think the devs were just like, "fuck it, we'll maybe do a patch."
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>>334544110

no, because i enjoy most games
it was refreshing and tons of fun returning to DS3
wasnt expecting to have this much fun with it
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>>334559084

Maneaters were easy themselves. The environment was the whole point.

But yeah DeS was meant to be a shortlived niche title
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After realizing how poor the online experience in DS3 is, it really just reminds me of DS2.

Not a bad game, but a bad Souls game with no reason to hold onto after finishing the playthrough. Conversely, Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, and Bloodborne all had multiple reasons to keep playing or to replay, DS2 and DS3 have none of these.
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>>334560157

DS3 has a lot of side quests that can easily be fucked up.

My replay value will be in successfully completing those.
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I just wanted matchmaking to actually be localized and not having unenjoyable lag-fests everytime you're invaded.
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>>334544110
There are shitton of hack-and-slash like Souls long before Souls exist are they not?
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>>334560414
Like what? The only ones I can think of are the Shadow Tower games, Severance Blade of Darkness and maybe Rune. No other hack and slash games play like Souls at all.
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>>334560408

They're dedicated servers this time.

Which is somehow worse. Bloodborne didn't have any lag online but somehow this game can hardly function online.
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>>334560151
I understand that the environment was supposed to be the challenge. It's just kinda bullshit when you fight them for 20 minutes cause one just keeps flying away only to be blasted off the edge by its pouncing unblockable attack when it clips through the environment when it clearly wasn't in a position to do so.
I'm still mad about that.
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>>334544110
The worst thing about these dank souls games is that it keep from software from developing other IP's like armored core.
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