Well /v/?
Why?
The end of TP was so sad with Midna leaving forever breaking the mirror without any warning.
Wind waker is best.
Twilight
>>334526126
Because.
>>334526297
This. Twilight Princess has no replay value.
twilight Princess
Wind Waker is probably my favourite zelda. Legend of dog was such a drag to play.
Wind Waker
Twilight Princess if all Wolf sections were removed.
The wolf wasn't bad mind you, I just had more fun playing as human link.
Boat > Shitty horse controls and dog mode
Dumb items in TP that had no use later in the game.
That said, TP did have slightly better dungeons.
>>334526010
What am I picking exactly? Visuals? Dungeons? What?
>>334526010
Windwaker by far
the world was more cohesive and explorable, and i felt the tone and the atmosphere was more exciting in windwaker as opposed to the dramatic format of twilight princess that takes itself far to seriously trying to create stressful scenarios instead of fun ones
You'd have to be clinically retarded to choose TP.
>>334526010
Wind waker.
Was generally sad after i got the top.
wind waker was literally press a press x press y but whatever. /vg/s full of hipsters.
>>334527091
>slightly
The one with the adorable imp
>>334527681
>/vg/
>>334527681
As opposed to Twilight Princess? Every 3D Zelda game is brainless shit.
Twilight Princess HD > The Wind Waker plus Tingle Tuner and a friend > Twilight Princess Gamecube > The Wind Waker without Tingle Tuner > The Wind Waker HD > Twilight Princess Wii
who's the best?
MM or WW for me
>>334526010
I picked up both twice because I'm a retard. Only Wind Waker deserved it.
>>334527847
This is the best opinion I've ever heard. Good job, anon.
>>334527847
>>334527969
>WWHD not miles ahead of the original
>best anything
>>334527853
I like your style.
>>334528025
>m-muh flat colors
I much prefer taking a lot longer to sail around and having to manually change the wind's direction every couple minutes.
Twilight Princess is one of my favorite video games ever, so Twilight Princess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGrlhBknGiU
wind waker is shit
>>334526457
Don't think I would ever go back to any Zelda games to replay it.
>>334527535
That's for you to decide.
>>334527608
You'd have to be clinically retarded to choose WW.
MM > OoT = TP > WW > SS
>>334528972
>That's for you to decide.
>You'd have to be clinically retarded to choose WW.
But what if I decide the soundtrack?
>>334529004
I agree
How does one decide between two pieces of near perfection?
>>334526256
But it's undermined by there being no reason for her to do this.
>>334529224
>no reason for her to do this
>wanting to allow those criminals banished to the Twilight Realm to enter to world of light
>wanting to allow people to use the Mirror for evil
>>334529004
TP is a short game
>>334529296
But it was right after a speech on the importance of the mirror's existence
>>334529150
Nintenyearold spotted
>>334527853
im jelly as fuck right now
>>334526010
>Play WWHD, TPHD Skyward Sword, OOT3D and MM3D all within a 14 month period of time
>mfw the realization hits that the 3D Zelda games really do get much shittier after MM
The dungeons are solid but everything in between is a filler packed snoozefest. What the fuck happened? Only Wind Waker skirts by with its lulls being thankfully brief with the exception of the Triforce hunt.
>>334529572
WindWaker has the worst in between parts of all though. Traveling the ocean is dreadfully boring.
>>334529572
>The dungeons are solid but everything in between is a filler packed snoozefest.
MM is guilty of this as well. More so than TP even
>>334526010
Does Zelda have a dungeon that surpasses Eagle Tower?
>>334527853
>>334529531
Lol please. Bow before me and my disposable income and years of keeping boxes in good condition
>>334529296
Midna is back in power in the Twilight Realm, it's all hunky dory now. What fucking criminals other than Ganondorf pose any kind of worldwide threat? When is this established? The only thing the Mirror does is bridge gaps.
>>334529814
I just realized that Zelda dungeons with "Tower" in the title are always great.
>>334529572
>took you a year and two months to beat 5 games
Casual spotted.
TP characters were so bland and boring. Also the story and world were meh.
>>334530376
I didn't buy them all at once and play them back to back.
>>334527853
Zelda 1 is best girl, followed by Awakening, Oracle of Seasons and then Majora's Mask.
You have a good collection, fag.
>>334526457
To be fair WW has a lot of tedious parts that completely kill my motivation to replay it. It's just that TP is a more dull experience through and through.
>>334529369
Fucking gamelets.
When will they learn?
>>334526010
TP.
>>334529296
Also weren't they mostly descendants of criminals, not actual criminals?
Twilight princess is a much better game. WW's remake was handled better though.
>>334526010
WW's character development and character presence was dogshit
WW's plot was paper thin, villain was barely even around, and had the pacing of a narcoleptic cheetah
WW's exploration was basically wandering around a hub world with travel time
WW's dungeons were basically parkour and block pushing with very little in-between
WW is legitimately the only fucking Zelda game in existence I would never, ever replay, and I regret buying it.
Shit, I played Skyward Sword and Phantom Hourglass three times each and legitimately think that they were way less disappointing than WW was.
>>334531245
(You)
>>334531304
That'd be 10/10 reply if what I was saying was actually meant to be bait. I legitimately think Skyward Sword was a good game with glaring flaws, Phantom Hourglass was a good game, albeit held back by the system it was developed for and unfortunately constrained by the stylus movement system, and WW was disappointing on multiple levels. No other Zelda beside Wind Waker has given me the impression of the game feeling half-finished and having so much more potential to build on.
>>334531747
But how is PH better than WW
>>334526010
Wind Waker
>>334527736
my nigga
>>334531857
>Great variety of puzzles that included riddles and took advantage of the map system to have surprising variety of map-based puzzles.
>Characters that had a fairly consistent presence, grew and developed over time without feeling rushed.
>The "villain" was inherently of a nature that lent it to being a background evil, in contrast with Gandondorf, and its presence was frequently felt in the dialogue and the places you went and enemies you fought.
>The boat controlled WAY better, and its cannon was 200x improved, allowing for actual ocean bosses instead of some squids you shoot arrows at.
Honestly its biggest flaws were requiring the stylus to move, cartridge limitations meaning that variety of dungeon and boss music had to be sacrificed.
Although you were regularly returning to the Temple of the Ocean King, it always felt like you could do something new or do something better when you came back. Being able to combat the phantoms was a fucking amazing feeling of progression as you went from hiding, to brazenly running right by or around them as you got more time on your clock, to taking them out with traps, to stunning them, and by the end you could actually kill them which was cathartic as hell after all the trouble they gave you.
And while the first phase of the final boss wasn't that memorable, the second phase was rad as hell.
The macguffins you acquired throughout your quest actually had use to you, something which always wins me over, as you could equip them and upgrade them over time by going around to islands you've visited before to search up treasures to make them more potent. They weren't just the seven crystal keys or some shit.
The multiplayer was decent, and the boat customization system while not particularly deep lent a lot of feeling of personalization to the experience.
>>334532724
Oh and treasure hunting on the ocean was more fun.
>>334532724
>Characters that had a fairly consistent presence, grew and developed over time without feeling rushed.
>The "villain" was inherently of a nature that lent it to being a background evil, in contrast with Gandondorf, and its presence was frequently felt in the dialogue and the places you went and enemies you fought.
Bellum was nothing but an excuse for lazy writers to flush Tetra's character down the toilet. The game was a sad bait and switch that starts out like you'll be on an adventure with Wind Waker's lovable cast and saddles you instead with a bunch of nobodies and Linebeck
>>334530053
its beautiful man
>>334532947
>flush Tetra's character down the toilet
...WHAT character? I played WW very recently and she barely even existed, even when I went looking for her. Oh, so she gives you a wink in one cutscene as she steals bombs, big whoop. She's never really around otherwise, and aside from the wink, pretty much the only thing I can remember about her is her getting kidnapped after being whitewashed into a dainty princess and taking away all her spunk.
Tetra had about as little presence in PH as she had in WW, don't kid yourself.
>>334526010I haven't played either.
>>334533304
>...WHAT character? I played WW very recently and she barely even existed, even when I went looking for her. Oh, so she gives you a wink in one cutscene as she steals bombs, big whoop. She's never really around otherwise, and aside from the wink, pretty much the only thing I can remember about her is her getting kidnapped after being whitewashed into a dainty princess and taking away all her spunk.
Aside from proving you deliberately ignored what was going on during the game it seems you also missed how the ending freed her up to be an active participant in any sequel.
ST Zelda's existence is practically one big apology for how badly the fucked up with Tetra in PH
>>334533506
>a Zelda that isn't Tetra at all is somehow an apology for turning Tetra into a statue
??????????????
>>334533709
>Sequel to a game that completely wastes an opportunity for Zelda to be consistently useful suddenly features the most consistently useful Zelda in the series.
It was a bad idea anyway you slice it. Your bias blinds you to how much potential a game With Tetra's crew traveling with Link could've had
>>334533382
Play them in release order
>>334533869
Oh, no. I definitely would have loved to see that kind of game, but I don't think your expectations for potential games should be levied against PH as its failure.
Sure, it's unfortunate what happened to Tetra, but she honestly isn't that much worse off compared to how she was in WW, while I actually got a much better feel for the characters in PH than I ever did for Tetra's crew as a whole in the entirety of WW, and I actively searched them out whenever possible.
PH was PH, and regardless of potential games aside, PH was a good game. It had a few flaws (what Zelda doesn't?), some of which REALLY turned people off more than normal, but outside of those flaws I honestly feel it was a better game than WW overall. Tetra, Makar, and Medli were the only characters of WW I felt any connection to, and I feel like I saw Makar and Medli all of twice, with the second visits being to brainwash them with the ghosts of their ancestors because gosh we can't have actual character development can we?
Tetra, we only ever got glimpses of, just the same as any other character, so her being reduced to little more than a statue in PH didn't really affect me any.
It boggles my mind whenever I see people looking up to WW as being among the best entries in the franchise when I feel it was honestly among the weakest.
On a slightly different note aside, I'd honestly like to see more Capcom Zeldas. The Oracles and Minish Cap were fantastic.
>>334534836
>Oh, no. I definitely would have loved to see that kind of game, but I don't think your expectations for potential games should be levied against PH as its failure.
I do because sequels should aim to build on the successes of their predecessors.
Not only did the game waste Tetra's character but it did nothing with their search for New Hyrule as a whole. You could probably have removed the opening and ending scenes with Link and the pirates, replace Tetra with a generic princess, and not have to change a single line of dialogue
As I said before. I love ST for rectifying these mistakes.
they're both full of problems, GC Zeldas marked the beginning of the decline of the series
>inb4 nostalgia
>>334535737
>GC Zeldas
>Not MM
Love this meme.
>>334526010
Wind Waker. Is this supposed to be a difficult choice?
>>334537254
Naw, it's supposed to weed out the shitters.
Wind Waker. It started the trilogy that led up this rendition of Zelda.
>>334527736
>>334532702
Twili form is better
Oh nice, WW and TP thread. So /v/, I've never really played Zelda before. I played TP for the Wii when it came out but didn't like it due to wagglan and shit.
Early last year I played and beat Zelda WWHD. Fucking loved it. Just got TPHD today. Will I enjoy it as much? Which did you guys like better? What may or may I not enjoy in TP?
>>334537415
>imblying
>>334537631
TPHD gets rid of the waggling entirely, plus hero mode makes the game better
>>334526010
Wind Waker left more of an impression on me, but Twilight Princess did a bunch of things I used to find cool and made me no longer impressed with them. They both helped me develop as a person, and influenced my tastes and life to come. I guess I'd normally choose Wind Waker since I think of it as a more positive experience, but I don't entirely hate either of them, flawed as they may be.
>>334526010
I'll take the one with enough/good dungeons.
>>334530585
No johns.
>>334529004
OoT>TP=SS>MM>WW
But what's the use of just posting your opinions without any justification or explanation? I rank them the way I do because I value dungeons most in Zelda games. And while combat may not be the point of the series, it's enough of your time spent playing that I think it's an important thing to consider.
I thought WW lacked dungeons and what you did get wasn't so good. And it has the worst combat. And it has that boring ocean.
>>334537415
kill yourself my man
>>334537631
Did you like Wind Waker's sailing and overworld?
>>334539437
No, Hyrule Warriors more than proved my point
>>334526010
wind waker ez
>>334537631
Play some 2D Zelda games. They are better imo.
>>334526010
WW, not contest.
>>334539516
Yeah actually, I did.
>>334539992
Any of them available on the 3ds that you recommend? I have all the 3ds zelda games on my 3ds ready to be played. Might try OoT 3d again after TP.
>>334540286
Oracle games on the VC
>>334540286
>Yeah actually, I did.
Then you'll probably like it more than TP which has better dungeons, but a more disjointed world with forgettable characters outside of midna
>Any of them available on the 3ds that you recommend? I have all the 3ds zelda games on my 3ds ready to be played. Might try OoT 3d again after TP.
They're pretty much all on the 3DS if you're an ambassador.
>>334540286
A link to the past
Oracle games
I have those on my 3DS from the eshop. Not sure if there's any others.
