What went wrong?
60$ pricetag on a game with very minimal replayability, not all characters are unlocked from the start forcing a filler in between unlocking good characters.
It's upsetting to see a good idea bail so fast.
Slow content updates
> a filler in between unlocking good characters.
Unlocking characters was super quick though. The Situations give you a fuck ton and the tutorial does too
>>334509628
Nothing
Not enough maps if you ask me
>>334509628
Nothing went wrong, it's a great game and the only complaints are very minor.
Still a pretty active community and very satisfying to play.
>>334510380
>>334510334
I agree with these two.
same thing that happened to nuts and bolts.
good game but it hurt them by using the rainbow six name. this game is nothing like rainbow six. no option to turn off weapon models, iron sights giving you 0 recoil from 30 to 0, no ding chavez. it doesnt even fucking have a single player campaign
>>334509628
It should've just been patriots.... No one asked for this honestly, it feels like such a step back for this supposedly tactical shooter.
>no cover system.
> no story
>no option for respawning team deathmatch or deathmatch
>limited combinations for customization.
As someone who played vegas 2 up until last year, I just gotta say, I feel really let down by this.
>
>>334509628
It was Rainbow Six Call of Duty: Siege
>>334509628
It's not R6: Patriots.
>>334510618
Was Nuts & Bolts actually good?
>>334510748
Literally not this.
>>334510805
We never saw any unscripted gameplay of it though
>>334510875
it was very good, but because it used the banjo name, people hated it because it wasn't a proper platforming game
Uplay
>>334510109
not even what was wrong with the game. holy shit
Garbage netcode, no antihack measures, terrible community
>>334510618
This game is Rainbow Six through and through, dumbass.
You either not played the old games, or this one.
>>334510707
Vegas 1 & 2 were an embarrassment to the Rainbow Six name.
Haven't played it since the black ice update but I had a lot of fun with it, great teamwork and most of the time randoms were very competent. I enjoyed having to plan out my actions because taking a wrong step could result in me having my head popped by someone who had their sites trained on a doorway
>>334510618
>this game is nothing like rainbow six
Stop saying this. The gameplay across the series isn't some monolithic bullshit.
>>334510990
How has no one else said this?
>>334511094
Are you trolling? When has R6 ever been exclusively about the multiplayer?
>>334511094
>>334511094
>>334511094
This.
Before they polished the netcode, which still has issues, it was terrible.
Also the anticheat is what ultimately ruined the PC community. Far too many hackers
>>334510109
Ignore this poorfag speaking
>>334511094
>This is like the old rainbow six games
Fuck you you fucking fuck
All I fucking want is that god damn set up screen and to plan all my missions out and watch the ai execute them
>>334511136
I agree. Everybody here seems to think these games were some slow fucking tactical operations sim. They werent.
>>334511268
this, faggots
The game itself if great. One of my favorite shooters, but:
>absolutely shit netcode
>cheaters
>useless operators (tachanka, IQ)
>OP shit like frost's Super90 left unnerfed for months
>>334510707
>>334510805
>There are """people""" here who actually wanted that garbage Patriots
>>334509628
The netcode, through and through.
It was probably some of the worst I've ever experienced at launch. You could be slain when you clearly beat him on your own screen.
They might've patched it up a little bit since then, but it massacred all first impressions.
>>334511490
>Calling either of them "useless"
Noob harder
>>334509628
its forgettable ubisoft trash
The only problem that Siege really has is that there are ways to get around fairfight, so there are some hackers around. I've seen people get banned for it though so Im not sure it's failsafe.
Hopefully they will fix that shit. And some more maps would be good. Not worth $60 though so they shot themselves in the foot with that pricetag. I got it for $30 on a sale at a brick and mortar, felt it was just the right price to pay.
>>334509628
>shitty launch
>too many walls/floors are destructible, but not any obstacles inside.
>laser accurate guns
>horrible netcode
>bad UI
>awful matchmaking
>4x scope is the best
>operators are not balanced and not all of them have a counter
>maps are poorly designed
>smoke grenades are 2d sprites that you can see around the edges if you look different directions.
>too many angles players can be at, main complaint is that they can prone
>trying to push it as an esport, microsoft forces people to use controllers
>bear traps
They did some things well. The idea of operators is pretty cool, but there needs to be a better way of picking them.
You do not know what the enemy is going to pick, but you can guess based on how powerful/popular they are. However, Thatcher has no counter and only suffers from sub-par weapons, making him one of the strongest operators.
>How much teamwork that goes into making sure some 12 year old hiding 2 floors up from the objective dies is rather cool. Clearing room by room with drones and scouting for your teammates.
>The timing requirements of entering a room.
>Map knowledge, and knowing good spam spots.
>Operator knowledge.
My opinion is that this game is more fun than it is good. What the player brings to the game is far more the important factor. The game just gets in the players way far too often for a good experience.
I personally have fun playing good games, and so after the honeymoon phase this game really repelled me and that's probably why someone would feel my review of it is overboard. I expect a lot from a game after paying it for 24+ hours.
>if you played it so much how can you say you didn't like it
I gave it a good chance. If I had played it little wouldn't that not have been your criticism?
>>334511513
they are trolling you
>>334509628
Nothing at all
>>334510707
>there are underaged faggots in this thread RIGHT NOW whose first rainbow six game was a vegas, and they think their opinion on the series as a whole is valid
>no cover system
Originated with Vegas, faggot
>no story
There really never was one until Vegas, faggot
>no option for respawning TDM or DM
>he wants DM in a "tactical" shooter
>he wants respawning in a "tactical shooter
>limited combinations of customization
>he wants more cosmeticshit
Just kill yourself
>>334510707
Vegas games are terribly generic third person cover shooters, and were a long step down from the tactical gameplay of the earlier titles. Siege is much more faithful to the orginal games preceding vegas.
>>334514029
DM would be good in R6S. The maps are terribly designed and overly large. It'll take a while to learn them and DM would only boost people's proficiency on them.
I agree with everything else you're saying though, outside of the Vegas shit. I never played it so I don't know if you're right or not.
>>334512469
>Bear traps
Don't breach/enter without looking first faggot
I feel like it takes too long to unlock the DLC operators, but then again I only play an hour or two a night, a couple nights a week.
>>334512469
>too many angles players can be at, main complaint is that they can prone
Isn't this a pro though? It makes it more dynamic.
>>334515116
>It's a "players still don't realize you can shoot out beartraps from underneath you after vaulting over a window" episode
>>334511005
this
at the very least it needs a replay function so you can gather evidence of hacking and a means to report players in game, you currently have to go to ubisofts support website
>>334516698
They added a report player for suspicious activity option in the tab menu with last patch. Also added killcam to ranked for the same reason.
>>334516852
...what? so whats the fucking difference between casual and ranked now? other than a penalty for bailing midway.
>>334517538
Nothing really anymore, pretty lame. I never played ranked because it took a lot longer to find a game and hackers.
>>334509628
IF YOU DONT MAIN DIS MUFAKA YOUR JUST ANOTHER CASUAL
I remember playing and loving the shit out of Rogue Spear. Should i get this one /v/?
>>334518347
it's free right now on steam, I'm having "fun" honestly.
>>334511490
IQ's primary weapon is one of the best imo
The fucking servers, i love the game but holy shit fuck ubisoft they seem to fuck things up with every "fix" they deploy
>>334517976
Fuze is for 12 years old faggots
>>334509628
I absolutely love the game
Skill-based
A lot of different approaches, more than you'd think, in fact.
Not a lot of cheating
good support
etc.
>>334518347
It's free right now on steam, might as well try it till Sunday and decide.
>>334519092
explain
>>334518839
that's because the division and rainbow run on the same servers :7)))))))))
It's a great game but all operators should be unlocked from the start. I regularly play with my friends on a pirated version but when we played the "free" version on steam today it was fucking annoying to not be able to pick all characters. It's stupid and it makes players not be interested enough because they can't try different comps and different styles to find their own
>>334512469
>>334514921
What exactly is wrong with the map design? Pick a map and post a critique of it.
>>334519279
A lot of players choose him for easy kills with his perk.
But it's still funny when an autist is Fuzing in the hostage room
>>334519501
I actually like it because it gives me a goal. I also like the daily challenges for the same reason. That's just me though.
>>334519548
I mostly get baffled by people using him for the machine gun, or god forbid the bloody shield, his AK is top tier as a plain old shooty bang bang.
>>334519501
like above anon said, it's important to have a goal, because thats all the game has really, if you have everything from the start most people would play two sessions and then quit.
>>334519541
The maps are some of the best I've ever seen in regards to CQC and just in general in MP fps games
>>334519698
>>334519597
A goal? Why? Can't people just play multiplayer games for the multiplayer? Can't people have fun just playing the game? Game has a lot of replayability and a high as fuck skill ceiling why can't people play competitive games for the competition instead of for the cosmetics and shit?
CS:GO sized game with a $80 price tag.
Also some bullshit gold edition I think?
>>334519698
I often use Twitch for her F2, great gun too
>>334519203
>skill based
Lol
>>334520040
it has fuck all else to keep you into it, the maps get repetitive to me, at least in shit like UT2004 I could go play hilarious custom assault maps or something.
>>334509628
>that picture
>sledge and pulse on same team
?
>>334509628
I really like the game but the flaws are (in no respective order):
1. Not enough maps
2. Specific guns for specific characters
3. There isn't enough game modes
4. No terrorist side vs a special forces side
5. No solid story or plot enough for it to be a Rainbow Six game
6. Uplay
7. Awful matchmaking
8. Tons of cheaters
>>334520435
maybe sledge is super not paying attention and is about to get buckshot up his arse? Roamers are a real threat to dumbasses who think all the defenders are holed up in their room.
>>334509628
Just not enough staying power.
It's fun but lacking content for the price tag.
Leavers are a massive problem as well
I'm hoping it grows once we start seeing it in 50% / 75% sales
I don't really know why so many people wanted more Vegas though.
>>334520569
But there's a shield guy right behind pulse. If anyone is not paying attention it's him.
>>334520435
>>334520569
It's just a promotional bullshot. They've been doing this for a while now
>>334520540
The reason for no terrorist side is because of Clancy. He has been strict about not letting you play as one in his games, it's why it's always been blue squad vs gold squad etc.
>>334520796
that or he can't hit him since holding a shield makes your bullets act as though your firing them one at a time out of a blunderbuss.
>>334520862
I'm aware, lookat that, multiple of the same unit, and more than four of them total, doesn't that look so much more fun?
>>334510334
>>334510380
>What is shitty netcode
>What is shitty updates
>>334520171
lol if you suck at this game you have no skill
also you need to be creative with the ways you do shit
I used to play CS for money and i pwned everyone from the start in Rainbow
>>334520540
>No solid story or plot enough for it to be a Rainbow Six game
whiteboi please. Do you remember the story or plot for Covert Ops Essentials or Black Thorn?
>everyone that actually bought and played Siege loves it
>all the people crying about it are fags that didn't buy it because it's not like the old games
what a surprise
>>334520862
Kapkan is in that picture twice. Good job Ubisoft
>>334520981
Why not? That just defeats the point.
>>334517976
That's not Glaz
>>334520981
Actually there was very early (alpha i think) footage of rainbow six where the defenders actually had terrorist skins and weapons and accents
After the terrorist-attacks on those faggot journalists in france somewhere ubisoft changed it
>>334521278
see
>>334521325
tl;dr Ubisoft being SJW jews is the reason we don't get to play terrorists with funny accents and cool AK-variants
ubisoft focused more on the division in promo
/r/ing the webm of someone shooting a punchable hole in a garage door
>>334521325
>>334521472
Yeah, and in that trailer you dropped down in a helicopter and there were people outside. What the fuck?
>>334521509
>>334521658
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9p3vMcPVrE
there you go sweetheart
you could have googled it yourself
>>334521658
>mfw I thought you were joking and acting like the footage doesn't exist and then I looked at the video again and they are actually dropping out of the helo
>>334521325
That was the reveal during E3 2014. The operator system was already planned. This doesn't have anything to do with muh censorship or Charlie Hebdo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwthNEN0KGI
>>334521665
Shit I didn't know you could do that. That's useful. Also Who Glaz/Kapkan here comrades?
>>334521751
Can you read, mate?
I said how it was bullshit that in the E3 Trailer you could drop down in a helicopter and there were police and helicopters surrounding the hostage building. I wasn't asking for the video. Lern 2 reed.
>>334521278
Clancy probably knew kids would meme the fuck out and chant Allah Ackbur constantly during online play back in the day.
I don't know it's just never been allowed in Tom Clancy titles. It's a rule.
>>334511257
The anti cheat is fucking retarded. I got banned for cheating for 5 minutes because I instagibbed some fucker after he missed 3 shots on me. I got so fucking pissed Holy shit. That's not how you convince a customer to buy your shitty game.
>>334521658
>Be defender
>Hear helicopter as soon as the round starts
>Run outside and gun down the attackers as they're rappelling
>>334521846
Yeah, there was literally no reason to remove that feature.
>>334522079
also the graphics downgrade
omg ubisoft at its finest
>>334522060
You do realise that the police surrounding the building (which they did in the trailer) would shoot the fuck out of anyone that went outside and was a hostile. C'mon man, logic.
>>334522128
Graphics aren't even bad
>>334522128
I'm not trying to be a boasting cunt but I played the game in 4K with the texture pack upgrade and it looked really good imo.
>>334521665
>had to smash the bottom for it to fall
It's shit
>>334522060
>>334522128
Also, forgot to say that maybe there could be a barrier were they couldn't leave until they landed
>>334522209
Or you know, they could just shoot them from a window.
Maps like Kanal would not work.
>>334511268
Then why not just play Door Kickers?
>>334509628
Oh fuck off its a good game.
man the 2014 E3 trailer looks so good, they really downgraded every visual aspect for consolebabies
>>334509628
>bad netcode
>minimal support from ubisoft
>updates held because of "muh esports"
>>334522209
Havoc left the house in the trailer though.
>>334522654
Doesn't matter if it's good, it will stay in "le early access pre alpha special just 4 u xxD" meme state for 2 years, then get scrapped
>>334521751
THE WALL THE WALL
>>334511257
>Far too many hackers
Why do russians always ruin fucking everything for everyone?
>>334510707
>no cover system.
>wanting a cover system
Fuck you. Vegas was godawful to anybody with taste.
>>334524765
Any game that snaps the player to cover is dogshit. Shit mechanic and no game should ever use it
Uplay. If it wasn't for that I'd give the free weekend a try.
>>334516127
It also means you can get killed because somebody found a gay ass angle where you can barely see him as you're clearing a room and sorting through 20 other angles he's more likely to be at.
>>334525118
That's why you use your drones and scout with it.
>>334525276
> Using drones after the initial phase.
And get shot up the ass from long range while using it? No thanks, bro.
>>334509628
You need several friends to really actually enjoy it. I'm playing it on Xbox and I can't imagine trying to play ranked on my own, it must be a shitshow. Casuals are only fun on your own up to a point. Plus, the hacking problems I hear from PC would have doubly ruined it on that platform.
It is (rather worryingly) the only excellent multiplayer shooter around.
>>334525568
Have fun going in blind then. Good camera usage is what separates the men from the boys in this game.
>>334525568
... what rank are you?
>>334509628
Gimmick game, shit maps.
