>Game start with exposition instead of gameplay
>20 minutes of movie to put the gameplay in context is a problem now
ok wow do you want games to be super mario bros forever or what?
>>334484096
Nice strawman
See: how Shu Takumi revolutionized point and click adventures.
>>334484096
>buy game
>just want to get to playing
>get movie with a side of game
>>334484282
>point and click
You think Im some sort of fag or what
>>334484479
Are you saying Ghost Trick isn't the best game in the last 10 years?
>>334484298
That's what I'm saying, horrible pacing in an interactive medium is often the case.
>>334483898
Most games do. So?
>>334485534
Most games are shit
>>334483898
FF 8
>>334483898
fifa
>skipping the game's opening cinematic the first time you play it
scum of the earth
>>334487120
>playing the game for the non-interactive elements
objectively wrong
>thread starts with non video game related picture
Pic unrelated
>tutorial has the player with 70-100% of their powers
>lose all of them immediately after it's over
>muh gameplay
>>334483898
Holy shit is that the new prometheus?
>>334487416
>it's an aspiring janitor's response
quaint
>>334487576
the old one
noomi isn't in the new one
>>334485681
Now prove that those two groups are the same, as you undoubtedly insinutate.
Any second is a videogame that doesn't have the player in full control is a failure and should be skippable. So are interactive cutscenes that lock you up or have your character walk for 20 minutes while characters have their stupid plot conversations.
Out of maybe several thousand games which I played in my life I remember the story of maybe 8. Vidya has the worst quality of storytelling, and even if it didn't, I paid money for that part where you press buttons and shoot things, so fuck off and let me skip your pathetic attempts at artistry
>>334483898
Metal Wolf Chaos did it and is still a good game
>>334483898
Game devs are too lazy to learn proper worldbuilding, and just assume the same kind of bullshit carries over from other media. It doesn't.
It's like how B^U writes fucking novels and ignores the visual aspect of comics in their entirety, shunning the medium yet clinging to it for some vestigial purpose everyone has forgotten.
Just saying, if you don't know how to make a game function as a game instead of a novel/movie, then write a fucking novel/movie. Game devs are fucking lazy as shit with this, especially the godawful indie ones.
>>334488138
What about audio / text logs?
>>334483898
>Astronaut archaeologist Noomi is ripped
>>334488557
She's sexy.
>you can't skip tutorials in RPGs
The start of RPGs are so fucking boring, just let me get to playing for fucks sake
>>334488661
Even maximum edge mode doesn't make her unattractive
>>334488938
no but a severe case of deflate-jacks do
>>334488470
Audio logs you should be able to listen to while playing. Text logs depend upon the game and whether it suits it, but should always be a choice and assuming it's a game game(fps, fighting game etc) and not some sort of point and click etc (not dissing them, just saying they lack gameplay and focus on other areas) it should rip any relevant info out of it and gives you a very minimal tldr, such as: X door combination is 6154.
>>334489758
Have you played iji? you should.
>>334490791
Did she play the gypsy in that Sherlock Holmes movie where they jump off that balcony in the end?
>>334490901
dunno and don't give a shit
>>334487498
Darksiders.
My soul wept.
>>334487498
castlevania SotN did this and i hate it
i hate this trope so much
>>334491081
>>334487498
metroid zero mission as well
i'd argue that gaining items along the way is only slightly better design. i'd give the player a variety of moves that he can finish the game with outright and put the special stuff in as secrets.
>autistic kids too stupid to know how to press start to skip cutscenes
>m-m-muh gameplay muthafukka
>>334487504
yeah I want to play the game. It's half of the word
>>334483898
>game starts with character creation
>drops you in the game
>no tutorial
>no exposition
>no nothing
>>334492250
>game starts
>immediately ends
>>334483898
>>334484096
>video game
>video first
>game second
learn2playvideogames
>>334490901
She sure did.
>>334483898
>Game starts with gameplay
>then goes into exposition with kickass music
>>334491757
>just skip the story
I actually like story in videogames, but cutscenes are a lazy way of doing it. Story should mostly be told through in-game elements, like newspapers, character dialogue, e-mails, etc.
>>334493064
>newspapers, character dialogue, e-mails
>text, recited text, text
Fuck dude, video games have graphics now.
>>334493064
I like scripted events going on while you still have control of the character
Double Dragon has the best opening cuscene to date.
>>334487498
>Prototype
>Start out by tearing up Manhattan with all kinds of awesome powers
>10 minutes in SO THIS IS A STORY ALL ABOUT HOW
>listen to my story
>this may be our last chance
>otherworld.avi
>Hey guys, guys.
>What if
>We started the story in the MIDDLE?
>OR EVEN AT THE END?
>THEN HAD PLAYERS PLAY TO THAT POINT!
>I mean, of course there's not going to be any suspense or any possibility of events not unfolding in a way that leads to that part of the story, but who needs that?
Only game to do it right was Uncharted 2, since they gave nothing away and had you wondering how the hell he got into the situation rather than waiting until it happened.
>>334488138
This tbhfam
>>334491081
At least SotN gave you a code that allowed an exploit that retained your start-gear, which breaks the game in two
>game starts with gameplay accompanied by exposition
Main example I remember was Bayonetta 1 and 2
>>334483898
>Game has no box cover
>Starts up seemingly innocent
>Shit gets real
My half life did not come with a manual or box, it was a corporate freebie I got for bullshit with 90's era computer companies.
After the resonance cascade I sat in my computer chair twitching from my first premature ejaculation.
>tfw noomi was the only good thing about Prometheus (dat surgery scene)
>tfw she's cut from the "sequel"
>>334484096
ayyy lmao
>>334496726
Going into a game completely blind is such a gamble but boy can it pay off
>>334496705
Too bad bayo first level after that his filled with way too much cutscenes.
They're fun and all, but you barely tasted the gameplay and want more, so they're not really welcome so soon.
>gameplay can never tell a story
>story must be told in cutscenes always
Excessive cutscenes are bad game design, but balancing story and gameplay is not a zero-sum game.
