Did you kill her /v/?
>>334452385
Only after she outlived her usefulness
yeah
>>334452385
Meh. Waste of my time.
>>334452475
Of course
>>334452385
>Ventrue run
I let her live because she was useful to me.
>Tremere run
I went full Cammy for this one. Impending masquerade violations are to be stamped out.
>>334452385
Never. I have a thing for meat eaters.
Nah protected her. I thought of the role as a preservationist, running around protecting all the ghouls of the night
>>334452385
Ah, troika, truly ahead of its time. Casually dropping the dyke bomb back in 2004. Took bethesda ten years to catch up and eventually produce their instant classic "btw I have a wife".
>>334452385
She gave me two of the most useful items in the entire game, why would I kill her?
>>334452715
devilman, is that you?
>>334453425
To be fair, Masquerade was always very open about that shit. As well as sexuality and violence in general.
>>334452385
I figured most people wouldnt bother, but I like how shes sort of a hidden boss battle unto herself. Just like Mercurio.
>>334453425
ToEE already let you be a faggot and marry a gay pirate. They were forced to cut out the lesbian marriage though.
>>334452385
Being Nagaraja must really suck even compared to other vampires. As if luring people and feeding from them with risk of killing them if you lose control over yourself wasn't bad enough, Nagaraja also have to eat the flesh which basically means they have to kill in order to feed.
>>334452385
yeah. Its real handy having a living trash compactor you can brainwash people into feeding themselves to
>>334453876
Plus side is they don't lose themselves when feeding. Lore-wise a lot of them use their magic to preserve already dead bodies for consumption, the whole thing is very utilitarian really.
on my first playthrough I had an option to join up with that chinese bitch during the cab ride. I didn't take it then and never saw it come up on subsequent playthroughs to try it. What happens?
>>334452385
>Did you kill her /v/?
Did she even have /v/?
>>334452385
>afraid to give away her real name but give away her year of death and the name of her partner/lover
>>334454074
You end upin a cement block at the bottom of the ocean.Kue-jin are not vampires and don't give a fuck.
>>334453876
Rarer vampires, particularly within the sabbat and the more esoteric independant clans are capable of abandoning humanity entirely in favor of 'paths', which tend to amount to some obsessive ideal they must obey, its own laws replacing traditional moraily. (So there are still things that need to be adhered to, but basically is what allows freaky old sabbat to eat babies and not permafrenzy).
>>334454158
Names are dangerous things to just give out, man.
Don't want a Mage getting a hold of it.
>>334454176
I love that malk dialogue chain where you start spitting all sorts of advanced kuei-jin lore at her and she freaks out.
>>334454286
Or worse, infernalists/baali. Nagarajah are frequently black hand so shes probably all too familiar with that shit.
>>334452385
If my character was anything other than an ignorant fledgling, yeah I would have torched her on the quickfast
>>334454286
>Don't want a Mage getting a hold of it.
>>334454386
Why?
so I never got into the like actual RP game, and I never played the video games, but I love vampires and RPGs with good systems and gothic aesthetic, should I play bloodlines? redemption? one then the other?
>>334454286
Point being she gave away information that can lead to finding out her real name.
Why would I want to kill her? Because she risks the Masquerade by having to eat flesh?
>>334454540
She's probably from colonial Africa. Good luck with that.
>>334454490
Bloodlines is a must play for anything with a working PC. Just make sure you grab the fan patches because it was buggy as shit on release.
>>334452385
I never kill anyone voiced by MEM. <3
Pisha is best girl.
>>334454469
The more a mage knows about you, the easier it is for them to use magic on you from anywhere. Mages can fuck with reality. In one of the books there is a picture of a mage turning corn kernels into bees.
Likewise, with demon stuff knowing a demons true name gives you power over them... truth be told I dont really know if the name knowing gives demons any power over mortals, but it seemed like a good idea at the time.
>>334454719
>MEM
fucking seriously? she's in everything, holy shit, my exposure started with silent hill so it's what I know her for but damn...
>>334454713
I'll check it out then, I think for a long time I embarrassingly confused this with a pretty barebones (but fun) pvp hl mod called Vampire Slayer
>>334454469
Well a mage can do all kinds of shit to ruin your day. And I do mean ALL kinds of shit, there's not really a hard limit to what they can do.
And Infernalists (demon worshipers) are just bad news in general.
>>334453876
Most Nagaraja live in Asia among the Kuei-Jin and can pluck one of the billions of people there off the street.
>>334452385
I just bought it anon...
>>334453876
What if she gets a ghoul so she can have someone lure people into her den and if she gets desperate she can drink his blood and eat his meat and let them regenerate later.
>>334454573
Basically. Or if you just find the act abhorrent.
Amusingly you can actually use her to preserve the masquerade (at the cost of humanity). The annoying ghoul who hangs out at club confession and begins to threaten to break the masquerade can be instructed to go to the hospital basement if youve already met pisha. Returning to the basement later will have pisha bewildered, this being the first time shes ever had a meal 'delivered'.
>Killing one of the few people that aren't out to get you
Funny how the flesh eating vampire death mage is reliable.
>>334454942
>He bought it
Pierdes un punto de humanidad.
>>334454852
Bloodlines has a fuckton of voice talent in it. Off the top of my head Phil Lamarr, John Dimaggio and Grey Delisle
>>334454852
main tip is the game has A LOT of sidequests which help you, either just from the XP, or by making allies you can use to circumvent problems in other quests, or from items they give you which just plain power you up.
and time doesn't pass until you travel to a different level, so its almost always worth sniffing around for any extra sidequests before leaving to do your actual job.
>>334455076
Can't go all temple of doom and expect to make it 200 years.
>>334455279
YO YO YO
>>334455105
Dee Bradley Baker, Steve Blum, Andre Sogliuzzo, Courtenay Taylor
Bloodlines' VA cast would cost like 10 times more today
>>334455526
NOW THAT DON'T MEAN I DON'T APPRECIATE YO BU'NESS, IT'S JUST, Y'KNOW , BU'NESS.
>>334455526
the writing in this game was so great.
>>334455526
Literally one of the few games where I actually remember shopkeepers because they were memorable characters in their own right.
>>334455279
>and time doesn't pass until you travel
Time doesn't seem to pass at all. The whole thing could take place in a single night, Santa Claus style
Would've been interesting to have seen a day/night mechanic where you have to avoid sunlight or have your ghoul do errands during the day, but I suppose that would've been similar to the Nos route of using the sewers all the time.
>>334455526
FAT SHAMING
Or some shit people would spout these days
>>334454298
Got a link?
Never did a Malk run
>>334455752
>Time doesn't seem to pass at all.
well, some sidequests become unavailable if you don't finish them before leaving, and I seem to recall a few places where you have to give someone something, then go to another part of the city and back before they actually do the thing with it
>>334455856
Yeah, I think i missed the 'daydream believer' one when I didn't get him all the stuff he wanted.
Then I just reloaded an earlier save and sent him off to kill the president. No sweat.
what game is this?
>>334455752
I think time passes. The sarcophagus is offloaded from the Dane to the museum, that has to take at least a day.
>>334456097
Read the thread.
>>334455816
https://youtu.be/mUIO8o6_POI?t=370
At about 6:10 if the time signature doesnt work.
Its a brief refrence, but a refrence nontheless to some really obscure WoD shit.
Man, i still cant get over there being a wereshark boss battle. I love the Rokea!
>>334455810
what? that's the opposite of fat shaming. dude's comfortable with his weight.
>>334456115
Yeah, I mean plot-wise sure, but with no day-night cycle it's hard to believe time really passes since it's night all the time.
>>334456294
Redemption actually had a day segment. You had to walk along shadows of various shapes or get toasted.
>>334453645
I really only know of Bloodlines, but I always hear conflicting things about Masquerade and sexuality. Some threads say vampires don't give two fucks because feedings feel better than a triple orgasm and so sex or sexuality don't play a factor, but then there are posts like yours.
>>334457327
I'm not really talking about that as much as franchise as a whole isn't your typical treat sexuality with kid gloves or anything. It's part of humanity so it gets explored as well. Just because vampires don't really get any thrills from it by default doesn't meant they avoid using it to their advantage whenever they can and shit.
>>334457327
It's pretty simple. Vampires don't get much pleasure out of sex, but they can still have it. And you can't have a vampire game without the element of sexy vampire seduction, so the tabletop game has ample opportunities for you to indulge in that particular aspect of vampire culture (though noting that in the setting, sex is still viewed as pointless diversion at best and disgusting at worst).
Even if they don't get off on sex, vampires are still intensely sexual creatures. The first vampire novel was about a lesbian vampire.
Please understand that VtM's audience has pretty much always been loser goth girls wanting to act their fantasies.
Is VtmB very linear?
>>334457856
rather than a railroad, its more like a series of parks arranged in a line
>>334457856
Yeah, I'd guess I'd say so. You can't just straight up go to LA or Hollywood or Chinatown, you have to do the main story.
There's still a good degree of exploration and stuff though.
>>334457856
yeah
>>334457723
Oh yeah, that makes sense. I also forget there's more going on than just vampires.
>>334457805
I see. Thanks, anon.
>>334457856
It's linear in the GTA sense that you can just fuck around doing sidequests but sooner or later you'll need to do the main quest line that advances the plot.
You do have a surprising amount of flexibility in terms of how you do a lot of the quests though, through stealth, charming your way past people or just straight up violence. That said, the closer you get to the end of the game, the less you can talk your way out of battles.
>>334457805
>Please understand that VtM's audience has pretty much always been loser goth girls wanting to act their fantasies.
Have you ever been to a Masquerade LARP? Good god. I didn't think it was possible to cram so much cringe in a single room, but it apparently is.
>>334456176
What the fuck are those Yama Kings?
>>334458234
What do you expect when you cross tabletop gamers and goth kids?
Although I myself am a goth tabletop faggot so I have no room to talk.
>>334458234
I imagine that was some easy way to get women back in the '90s when finding a finding a girl who was into roleplaying was the equivalent of finding a holy grail. I mean, provided guys participating weren't just as awkward.
>>334458548
spooky lords of the chinese underworld I think
Am I bad if I play a gangrel and have her yell 'wryyy' when she fights/frenzies?
>>334458753
>Am I bad if I play a gangrel
Yes.
>>334458548
Ancient evil spirits looking to control and subdue the Kue-jin. It's kinda long winded, but you need to understand that Kuei-jin are not vampires. They're merely classified as such by ignorant white devils and for mechanical convenience. They're more like spirits riding their dead bodies and aren't really made through embrace or anything, they simply come to exist for certain reasons.
>>334458234
WoD tends to attract the worst kinds of players, for some reason.
Most Hunter folks seem alright, though.
Most LARPs are just a nonstop flow of cancer in general.
>>334458753
am I bad if I prefer how the Gangrel's super long red finger claws look compared to the psuedo-werewolf you become at the higher tiers of the power?
>>334458234
>Admiral Stevens
A Malkavian believing himself to be a Ventrue. "Admiral" is not a title, but his actual name.
>Medusa Shadowsprite
A Tzimisce and a master of koldunic sorcery, Medusa bears a different ideal of beauty than her fellow Fiends. To this end, her brand of flesh-craft involves the use of genitalia of questionable origins, as evidenced by the "horns" attached to her mask.
>Laura
She was told there would be cupcakes.
>One-Eyed Agatha
A master of Auspex, despite her appearance. She uses her superior insights to seduce men, mortal or otherwise. Her successes are few.
>>334458881
If it helps, the werewolf thing is non-canon. I think they get something like that with protean 7 or 8
In the tabletop they can turn into animals instead
>>334458548
Yama Kings were essentially entities created by the "August Personage of Jade" (God) to watch over the underworld. Part of their job was to punish the dead and extract their chi. This is actually what many Chinese Buddhists believe happens in the afterlife.
The Yama Kings became corrupt and started harvesting their chi with even more horrible torture methods, and the August Personage of Jade turned his back on them.
They essentially carved out a chunk of the Chinese afterlife so they could harvest chi from the dead Chinese.
Kuei-Jin are dead Chinese who have managed to escape these Ten Thousand Hells.
>>334458872
>WoD tends to attract the worst kinds of players, for some reason.
I think they're really just different stereotypes, just little D&D.
>>334458989
No party is any good without Radical Larry.
>>334459017
>some dude gives the middle finger to god
>now the world is fucked up in some way, usually monsters
Why the fuck does this happen so many times in WoD?
>>334458872
I have a feeling I'd be a lot more partial towards LARPers if they weren't so fucking disgusting. No matter how many slim fit corsets and girdles you wear I can still see the rolls spilling over and triple chin. At least get into shape first so you don't look like a joke.
>>334459204
Overarching themes.
Though Changeling and Werewolf don't do this.
>>334458859
but they are best clan
>>334459017
That's... interesting. And the Demon Emperor, what's it?
>>334459125
Honestly though, I feel like there's a lot more of the 'magical realm' types into WoD than usual.
>>334452385
No she gave me a neweye_______fetish
>>334459418
To be fair old Changeling never really fit into the setting. Old Werewolves pretty much did themselves in with War of Rage and have never recovered since.
>>334459204
I blame mages
>>334459452
The Demon Emperor is the title of the most powerful and worst Yama King, who will only appear at the end of days. All Yama Kings are aspiring to be him.
The Yama Kings are pretty neat. There is one that is a Japanese man with cyborg hands whose Hell is a cyberpunk dystopia of constant suffering because the city is designed to be specifically out of feng shui, disrupting harmony at every turn.
It's complicated and ambiguous lore stuff, but either the Ravnos antediluvian or one of his childer became one of the Yama Kings.
>>334459764
>whose Hell is a cyberpunk dystopia of constant suffering because the city is designed to be specifically out of feng shui, disrupting harmony at every turn.
that sounds like a bitching dungeon
>>334452385
No. She was just acting according to her nature and she served a useful function by helping me maintain the masquerade.
>>334452715
Well, congratulations, you got yourself in this thread. What's the next step in your master plan?
>>334455526
For some reason I never found that guy on my own and when I started reading these threads I was very confused when he popped up.
>>334459764
Thank you for explanation.
>>334453685
>Mercurio
Huh
>>334459017
Question; Why are they called Kuei-Jin with Japanese aspects to it, but most of their lore is centered on Chinese culture?
>>334459964
The Japanese have always stolen shit from the Chinese.
Reminder to download the oWoD rule books if you enjoyed this game. They're fascinating at best and hilarious at worst, but always entertaining.
>>334459964
It's a new made up term for eastern vampires. They have their own traditional name.
>>334459818
Imagine Tokyo on top of Bangkok with Hong Kong stuck half way through and Singapore balancing precariously on its edge, mixed with buildings from ancient China and Japan, all so slightly askew. Fill it with sweatshop workers and harried salarymen whose job is to painfully extract chi from other workers, constantly monitored by omnipresent cameras and hunted down by cyborgs if they try to escape. All people in this wicked city are connected to a network that allows for constant surveillance as well as continuous pumping of excruciating sensory data.
This is almost as bad the regular Chinese underworld.
>>334460316
forget dungeon, you could set a whole game there and it'd be tits
>>334459964
Kuei-Jin is a combination of both Chinese and Japanese terminology. Kuei is Chinese for ghost and Jin is Japanese for person.
It's heavily Chinese because China came first, so of course their Hells are more prominent. Don't worry, Japan has their own hells.
>>334460090
>This bait
>>334459764
That's wild. I just beat Shadowrun: Hong Kong, too.
>>334459936
Shitposting.With no survivors
>>334460440
In Werewolf, the spirit world (which is not the underworld) is called the Umbra. One part of the Umbra is the Cyber-Realm, which is essentially the spiritual gestalt existence of the internet.
You can enter the Cyber-Realm from the Wicked City, though you probably won't because of the torture cyborgs.
>>334460689
Weaver>Wyld>Wyrm
lawful neutral master race
>>334461047
Werewolf plays way too loose with their cosmology for me.
I'm pretty sure I'm the only person that likes Wraith.
>>334461047
>>334461047
If you got make all the races into categories of Lawful good neutral good chaotic good etc alignment. Where does each one belong?
>>334452385
The scum has been purged.
>>334461245
>Bond
>lawful neutral
isn't he always getting shit for being a cowboy cop?
>>334461245
mages in general probably close to chaotic neutral
technocracy are pretty lawful neutral
vamps are generally somewhere along the evil parts
all I got tho
>>334461245
>>334460460
But that's true though
>>334461380
Hello fellow Troper
>>334452385
Does anyone know the mod that gives the game more music? For example the song that plays when you find the surfer vampires on the beach.
>>334461245
Vampires don't really have morality.
The only good ones were eaten by other clans.
Camarilla are typically more neutral while Sabbat and Independents are typically more evil.
>>334460447
>Don't worry, Japan has their own hells.
Yeah they do.
>>334460090
Other way around.
>>334462747
>European education
>>334463039
You seem in pain. Are you Chinese, or just baiting?
>>334463328
Japanese kanji is Chinese hanzi
Buddhism was imported from China
The Japanese Imperial Court was modeled off the Chinese Imperial Court
Even the kimono is based off the hanfu
Are you seriously going to argue that some shitty chink industrial espionage since the 1970s overrides that?
forget
>European education
this is full-on
>Australian education
>>334463328
>Are you Chinese?
>Or Japanese?
>>334452493
this. fuck lesbian feminist vempires.
>>334463482
>Are you seriously going to argue that some shitty chink industrial espionage since the 1970s overrides that?
yes
plus the fucking chinks stole my volcano
>>334452385
Of course, bitch was breaking the masquerade. I don't care how she tried to excuse her lunatic behavior.
>>334463721
Fair enough
>>334460689
I can't lie to you, anon. I'm not sure what any of that meant.
>>334453876
>people are currently figuring out how to culture meat and milk from animal cells/yeasts and sugar
>vampires do this with human meat and blood
>don't have to kill/feed on humans anymore
i'm pretty sure they would never add this because it would be such a big change, but it would be interesting to see how a vampire setting dealt with this and other modern advancements
>>334463990
Wouldn't a really old bloodsucker not give a fuck about science? iirc they don't really like shit unless it's from their era. So a vamp who shits on the side of his wall will hold the bathroom in disdain, someone who was embraced during a time where scrolls were still used wouldn't exactly like touching e-books or computers or newspapers etc.I could be wrong though.
>>334463990
The show True Blood does this.
>>334463990
>it would be interesting to see how a vampire setting dealt with this and other modern advancements
WW actually released rules for playing a cyberpunk World of Darkness game.
>>334464156
yeah, damsel mentions old vampires still using candles instead of light bulbs but some of them might embrace ithehbecause it would prevent masquerade violations or problems with people disappearing, frenzying, etc.
>>334464457
intredasting, although i find most vampire stuff corny except for the movieblade, i forgot they had a serum in the movie though so he didn't have to feed on people. i think that movie is the film equivalent to vtmb, it's pretty good. the sequels are dreadful though.
>>334465140
>i think that movie is the film equivalent to vtmb
The movie equivalent of VtM is Underworld. Not in terms of quality, but in terms of how much they ripped it off.
>>334466221
Underworld was released before VtmB, what now?
>>334467958
the PnP predates the movie by a solid decade
>>334468095
The wording was a bit ambigious. If that post meant that Underworld did the ripping off, then I agree.
