Prove we aren't living inside some superior being's simulation vidya.
>>334452131
We don't have catgirls.
>>334452131
Incredibly complex irrational numbers are a good proof, such as pi. they would put an incredible strain on computing power, and nothing can do infinite computations.
It would be literally impossible for any computer to be powerful enough to keep any sort of code as complex as our real life from being a shitty glitchy mess that crashes a lot.
Even our own brains can't fucking muster keeping memories intact sometimes.
No computer could replicate how much of a faggot you are
Easy, I've got some ______ to prove it
>>334452367
most things calculated using pi are accurate with approximations, why wouldn't a simulation be doing the same?
Why would such a simulation vidya feature Sims 4 as such a downgrade?
>>334452440
some 5?
>>334452341
Catgirls would imply that whoever created the simulation is a benevolent person.
if this is a simulator it's either really boring or too realistic to have any players
>>334452440
Oh no! Our ______! They're gone! Even the word ______!
>>334452527
A computer able to compute multiple infinite segments would crash and burn.
>>334452131
But we are the players anon. Stuck in here with whatever being we rolled until we die.
>>334452661
Even the word...? How can someone steal a word?
>>334452713
>>334452747
I dunno senpai, but ima shove this useless wooden sword up this totally not even human looking creature when i'm finished with them.
>>334452367
Nah that's not proof.
If we're in a computer that is stimulating every atom in the universe then we wouldn't know the difference.
Besides, pí to only a handful of decimal places is enough to calculate the size of the universe to within a few widths of an atom
>>334452683
how many decimal places would a computer be able to calculate pi out to over 13.8 billion years?
>>334452367
Pi just spits out random numbers once you pass a certain point. These random numbers are then written into the system as the next "found" digits of pi. Basically, the simulation only needs as many digits of pi as we've found, and if our computers can handle it, there's are more than enough.
>>334452367
Rejected.
If it's possible to make a game where the characters believe in concept such as "universe is infinite" then it's impossible to make a game where characters acknowledge pi existence.
As for "computing power," no characters in this simulation game called life ever get to use the real pi in their Math Exam minigame anyway. They just use 3.14
>>334452131
You can't prove it, and nobody can disprove it. There are numerous essays on this that all come to the same conclusion: It's pointless to worry about.
>>334452852
>I'm an NPC
Its called working
If it's true, then how do I know you all are not just mindless npc's, and I'm the only person here with freewill being controlled by my conscience in the waking world? Prove me wrongu
>>334453156
no shit Sherlock
>>334452131
a computer program doesnt have feelings or actually think or experience anything, you fucking retards
>>334452683
>>334452367
>I cannot conceive this being possible with my incredibly limited understanding of the universe, so it's impossible
>>334453392
You can't even prove it you dipshit.
Road Runner cartoons? Road Runner cartoons? Hahahahahaha!
>>334453318
Do you even know how to make logical reasoning.
That's OUR computer program, or whatever the Maker decided to define "computer program" in our simulated world.
>>334453091
I don't follow how sentience beings unable to understand and process PI somehow rejects using it. >>334452892
>>334453016 make pretty convincing points to the computer sim theory, the universe is continually expanding and pi is "seemily" infinite, so maybe the computer is generating the "playable world" as time goes.
Because we are boring as fuck
>>334452341
>Programmer is an Oblivion-modder tier autist with fully modeled and rendered horse anuses and dumb irrelevant shit like eyelash mites.
>Wont fucking patch in catgirls.
Seriously, what the fuck devs?
>>334453392
>>334453215
>>334453096
>I don't understand how computers work, so I will take advantage of how mysterious and magical they seem to be and I will use them as a basis to talk about ambiguously defined topics that can't be given a concrete answer because of how poorly explained they are
If you had a choice for what kind of genre you would be an NPC in, what would it be?
>>334453707
Maybe we are simulated in the game of shitty dev, like Divine Bethesda or Immortal Ubisoft Montreal.
>>334453793
At least you can simulate a simulation while inside your simulation. Shit's so cash.
>>334453916
>how computers work
What you do not understand is that you are basing your knowledge of a hypothetical supercomputer on your understanding of current computing technology. Nobody is claiming the universe is being simulated by a 2009 Dell optiplex.
>>334453965
>tissues right next to it
Damn, that bitch is installing lewd mods on her Sims
I know what she's up to
>>334453916
Exactly. Waste of fucking time when you could be playing video games.
>>334453948
I don't think so, we are not that buggy
The devs would need to be a weird combination of competent and shitty
>higher race of advanced beings get to watch me sit in my room, shitpost on 4chan, and scratch my balls
You having fun with this, guys?
>>334454348
Don't draw attention to yourself. The invisible hand might pick you up and toss you in a lake.
>>334454593
>playing cities skylines
>someone tweets something talking shit about your city
>find where they live
>demolish their house
>>334452131
>This knowledge problem rears its ugly head again. What a terrifying display of uncertainty.
>What if we are all being deceived by an evil demon who is also playing video games?
>>334454348
>qt alien higher being girls fascinated with watching me fap
Hol up
>>334454026
Hypothethical supercomputers or not, the topic itself is terribly simplified: we're assumming many things about the nature of reality and consciousness, so it boggles my mind how people talk about it like it was something cotidian.
>>334455137
You mean quotidian?
>>334452852
Someone's never played Recettear
>>334455251
Fuck off, I'm trying to sound smart here.
>>334455251
>hypothethical
>cotidian
Fuck my english
>>334455107
Why would a higher being be interested in our, a simulated computer characters, dick/pucci
>>334455137
You're bitching about nothing. It's the "brain in a vat" problem. It's one of the oldest thought problems in philosophy. The whole problem is
>How do you know there isn't something beyond what you perceive that is creating everything you perceive?
>>334455390
You sound retarded actually.
>>334452131
why would a superior being keep losing
>>334455751
And? Does that make this "thought problem" any less ambiguous bullshit?
In the brain in a vat scenario, you're assumming that you are a brain and that the self has a physical place. You are ignoring the subjective experience, and the implications of having your "self" being a brain: What would happen to your "self" if every neuron of your brain was replaced with other neurons or another compatible material?
Similarly, this simulation argument is pseudo-blabbery ambiguous nonsense, and everyone discussing it seriously shouldjust shut the fuck up.
>>334452367
>pi puts strain on computers
It repeats forever. There's no curve balls
The stupidity of humans can't be emulated.
>>334455751
In the end, the whole problem is the "we can no nuffin" mindset or that our perception does not show us all of reality.
The problem is that there is no clear definition of "knowledge", "reality", or "perception". What is being perceived? Who or what is perceiving? What is exactly a perceiver or observing subject?
Even hard skepticism falls on assumptions about subjectivity.
>>334452341
This right here
>>334458943
Don't fucking bump the thread. I don't want anyone to reply to my argument and try to disprove me.
>>334459081
Catgirls are stupid like your argument. QED
>>334459081
which one is (You)