So /v/, do graphics actually matter?
I think so
Smooth FPS matters more than graphics tbqh.
Smooth FPS is better but you're kidding yourself if you don't realise good graphics enhance the experience.
>>334444535
You can have fun regardless, but graphics enhance.
Framerate does a huge number too IMO
no they don't, and neither does framerate. if you're playing a good game you will be too focused on the action to notice small details. so long as it doesn't have crashing issues, it's a good game.
>>334444535
game name?
Framerate matters more, but most people are content with a jittery 25-30 fps at below FAR below 1080p
>>334444535
of course no! and don't forget to buy oculus
>>334444535
It all PCfags ever talk about.
>>334444835
hahaha I thought it was a video game board
>>334444835
nigger is this bait
look at the filename
>>334444535
i think i might go replay gtav
it came out on pc 1 year ago today
>>334444960
jesus
>>334444956
I can't believe it was a year already
Matters enough to play all the multiplats on PC but not enough to ignore exclusive or "discuss" with people on r/videogames or 4chan
>>334444940
>>334444945
>mfw i'm so new i didn't notice the file name.
>>334444535
Not much.
It really depends on the person's preference, though.
I'm not a graphics whore, so I don't really mind if I'm not playing at the highest settings.
Some people love playing at ultra and messing with the settings for hours
>>334444535
that's just the same picture on a ps4 in a different time of day
>>334444921
"The 4 best-looking games this gen are all PS4 exclusives"
better graphics help make good games better
I can take them or leave them. They're nice, I will never argue that great graphics enhance the experience but its also expensive and tends to replace content. They will never be important to me, good art direction is enough to get engrossed.
No. Also yes if it means I get to make fun of someone who has worse graphics.
>"grafics don't matter!"
>"gotta buy the newest console!"
Good graphics don't make shit games better, good graphics make good games better
to me not very much. But I also don't have a very high end pc.
As long as I have a stable framerate and no major glitches like the character falling through the world then I'm fine
>>334444535
graphics matter. photorealism doesn't matter. style matters. visual flair. don't matter how many individual blades of grass you render if that grassy field is visually uninteresting. Have a good subject matter before you waste time rendering it.
>>334445529
You buy consoles for Japanese games, ya silly frog
>>334444535
Gameplay and framerate matter more. I can take bad graphics if it's a good experience but preferably I'd have both.
>>334445529
uh people buy new consoles because they have new games not because they want to play their old games with better graphics
>>334444960
Why do some people have this huge aversion to games going to other platforms? I remember some guy freaking the fuck out on Twitter about Ni no Kuni 2 "potentially coming to other platforms" or something, even Yoshida found it a bit extreme. Hell, what about that one Xbox faggot on YouTube who made a fucking hour long video about losing Quantum Break to PC, and had to announce an "emergency Xbox meeting" with people?
>>334444535
No. I just want to have fun :)
>>334445841
Everything being multiplat would be stupid.
We need competition in the industry
>>334445723
This
Fuck the western shit
>>334444535
they can't, or PC gaming would be dominant.
Graphics matter, but only when you're arguing about who has the better graphics between two consoles.
If you bring PC into the discussion, then graphics don't matter.
>>334446158
>We need competition in the industry
Then tell Sony to stop killing it worldwide. They have a virtual monopoly in Japan, and it’s the de-facto console for American and European gamers.
>>334444535
PC vs PS4?
no they don't matter
PS4 vs Xbox?
Of course they matter
lmao three fewer blades of grass inferior version
>>334446286
>between consoles
lel, Sony already conquered that battlefield and are now bashing at the gates of PCucks.
The best looking games are all on PS4.
>>334446286
That's right, graphics don't matter enough to be worth paying extra for an expensive PC.
>>334446342
Sony isn't pulling anything shady for all the Japanese devs to develop on their consoles. Why would any of them develop for xbone or pc when nobody even uses them in moonland
>>334446531
If you're paying for a PC for graphics then you're probably a retard.
>>334446574
>Why would any of them develop for xbone or pc when nobody even uses them in moonland
That's precisely the problem. There IS no other option in Japan.
>>334444535
I wish companies would navigate away from graphical fidelity and focus more on processing.
>>334444535
I feel that graphics only matter if it makes it hard to play. If a game has graphics that makes the game impossible to play then yes it matters.
I feel overall graphics are sometimes an added bonus to a game, but overall they don't really change my opinion.
What really matters is game play.
>>334446639
True, as long as it runs the latest pixel indie, you're are da masterrace
>>334444535
Graphics don't mean shit.
If the gameplay is solid, nothing matters
>>334446840
Seems to be what people think these days anyway.
>>334446701
I know that, it's not sony's fault though. Microsoft just can't market that fucking thing over there and PC isn't going to work. The only solution I could see is for them to get ported by the localization department and the Xbox One/PC version released only in EU and NA like what Tecmo Koei is doing with the Attack on Titan game
>>334444535
Gameplay over graphics but looking good never hurts.
>>334444535
Visuals, of course, it's a visual medium.
Gameplay>all though.
>>334444535
Graphics only matter if they have a connection to gameplay. There are some improvements in gameplay that could only be done because of improvements in graphics. The most obvious of these was the transition to 3D games back in the N64/PS1 era. But since then, there have been fewer and fewer examples of improvements in gameplay each gen.
Trying to be super realistic is not helping since no matter how sharp and realistic you make a game look, the characters movements and interaction with that world will never pass the uncanney valley. But most people obviously don't care. Now, just like back on the PS1, people buy games based on pre rendered cutscenes and not actual gameplay.
Oh wait, you probably didn't want a serious reply. Dur hur 60 FPS!
>>334447002
If microsoft really cared they could pay for ports of those games like they did last gen but they no it's not worth it because the games sold terrible on Xbox and will move 0 consoles
>>334446158
I get the feeling you don't actually give a shit about competition so much as you care about having more exclusives than your rivals.
>>334445758
if that were true no new consoles would be released as all new games would be released on the first console
if people actually didn't give a shit about graphics we would have maybe stopped on ps1 tier graphics for full 3d games but that just isn't the case
>>334444535
High-resolution/low-poly > high-poly jaggy shit.
Yes, along with art direction and stable framerate.
>>334444535
>PS3 version is clearer than PS4
#4theplayers
>>334446158
You would have a point if exclusives were consistently better than multiplat games, but they're about as hit or miss as everything else these days, so they really attribute nothing to competition.
>>334444535
Pro tip: When a ps4 game has bad graphics it doesn't matter but if a pc game also has bad graphics it does matter
>>334447002
I never said it was their fault. The problem lies directly with the publishers.
Why do they make games for the PlayStation? Because that's where their audience is. Why does their audience have PlayStations? Because they're anticipating their games.
Even those console ports that Steam has cannot be purchased in Japan. Why? Because that would cut into their more expensive console profits, and they don't want to lose money. I think the Neptunia games go for like 80 bucks, while they're only 20 on Steam. And before you say the Japs don't game on PC, that's true, but to a far lesser extent. Rockstar didn't publish GTA5 PC there for shits and giggles. The Japanese were actually complaining about getting Fallout 4 PC at a later date. The Japanese do play games on PC, they seem to love Planetside 2, not to mention there being quite a few PC-only, Japan-only MMOs like Phantasy Star Online and Sword Art Online.
>>334447268
Well you can't really expect them to care now, they tried it and it made them no money so there's no benefit to them. It's a flawed strategy in general. The people who are buying JRPG's generally don't give a fuck about games like Halo or Gears of War and if all the jap games they want are guaranteed on Playstation, why go for a console that will only have some?
Only in /v/ and leddit. You can blame the influx of elitists from that place getting to /v/.
Games always looked like shit even last gen and this gen and nobody really explains why a game is beautiful. Frame rate is the latest fad.
Its just that they find peace of mind when they confirm they have the prettiest of a game to date. Tomorrow something prettier will come out but even then it'll be dated.
>>334447515
Nah, exclusives on Sony and Nintendo platforms shit on everything else.
This includes exclusives made by 3rd partys developers.
>>334447419
This
MGS 3 on 360 looks way fucking better than GTA 5 on 360
>>334445568
this desu senpai
photorealism is overrated and kind of a meme
something can look nice without having to be realistic
>>334444535
If you don't think it matters, then it doesn't matter, but don't come storming in to a platform debate swinging that opinion around because 'even though one is objectively superior in this aspect, I don't actually care about this aspect' isn't a valid argument.
And FPS totally matters, so don't even start on that angle.
>>334445841
They feel wronged if people on other systems get to play the game. Even though it's better for consumers.
>>334447720
>This includes exclusives made by 3rd partys developers.
That's kind of mostly what Sony exclusives are though.
>>334447604
>Frame rate is the latest fad.
3 years ago /v/ was raging about devs prioritizing graphics over framerate (that's around when the "30fps is more cinematic" meme came into the picture). It's not new.
>>334447817
No shit, and it shits on all multiplat trash
>>334447171
>nothing is allowed to just look nice
>>334444535
To PC gamers: Yes
To console gamers: Pic related
>>334447968
ehhhhhh
>>334447956
It's a fairly new meme.
Nobody cared about 30fps locks here in 2007.
Neo-/v/ started in 2008
>>334448171
eh what?
>>334445841
Console warriors are immature, petty, and more often than not, literal children. If console exclusives end up being released on other platforms, it means that they have less justification for dogmatically arguing that their platform/company of choice is the best, which is terrible. Don't worry if you can't wrap your head around it. There isn't actually any logic to it.
>>334444535
Yes.
People weren't asking this in 2004 when we're all excited about what's next in store for gaming and how amazing the leap from the xbox/ps2 to the 360/ps3 was. The fact that people are starting asking this is saying something.
>>334448047
When its primary purpose is to be played, it can't just look nice. That would just be a movie. And even a movie needs more than just shiny CGI to be good. Well, unless you're an idiot who thinks a Michael Bay movie is good.
>>334444444
>>334448242
As in ehhh I honestly have yet to play anything on PS4, but that damn sure hasn't been the case for PS3. I'm assuming you're going to tell me they suddenly got better on PS4 since I don't have the knowledge to call you out on it.
>>334447720
Then why isn't there anything on PS4/PS3 as good as:
Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Wolfenstein: TNO
DMC4
RDR
GTA V
Vanquish
Red Faction: Guerrilla
etc?
>>334445841
I remember when Kingdom Hearts III was announced for Xbox One and there was this massive influx of faggots going around and saying "KH is a playstation franchise, how dare you put this out on xbox. I'm not buying it".
I do not get this mind set at all. I could only see it making sense if a sequel came out on a different platform but not the one that it came out on before. Like the people who bought a PS2 waiting for the next Oddworld game only to hear Munch's Oddysee would be an Xbox exclusive or when Bayo 2 was announced as a Wii U exclusive
I'm not entitled enough to care about graphics. I grew up in a time when a fully rendered 3D world was some mind blowing shit
>People tell me Skyrim has shit graphics.
I can't imagine being so high strung that you can actually think that.
>>334448320
Michael Bay's CGI looks like garbage though. There are plenty of people who watch and love films for the technical aspects alone, even if there isn't much in the way of storytelling, but Bay doesn't even have that going for him.
>>334445239
DELETE THIS
>>334448609
It's as if standards have changed since the mid-90s.
>>334448425
Bait
>>334448490
Westacuck bait
Here are your (You)s
>>334448497
Nigga do you not remember FF13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-uTnqYHZ-I
>>334444535
Depends, if it is a multiplat, then yes, absolutely, because otherwise PCfags wouldn't be able to brag about superiority.
Otherwise? The games graphics can be entirely ASCII, a bunch of colored lines, look like it was made in the early days of 3D or even be blocks of various shapes and nothing else. So long as the gameplay is good and the game is fun.
>>334447720
The only exclusive i bought a system for this gen was Bayonetta 2. Even then that's only worth it because I enjoyed the first one so much.
The exclusives this gen have been mostly trash in comparison to multi-plat juggernauts and even HD re-releases.
>>334448609
But they're objectively correct though
>>334448206
Probably correct. If anything 4chan's April Fools this year shows the people who run this place are very self aware of the influx of newfags carrying Neo-/v/ culture, who likely come from reddit.
Just play games man. If its pretty that's a big bonus. A lot of the best games I've actually played recently over the years aren't the graphics heavy types.
I find animation, storytelling, game design, and as a bonus "fun" as having more sway in me.
If graphics were so important I don't get why people play games like for example, Minecraft and Mobas instead because they look significantly worse than many other games during their launch years.
>>334445568
that's precisely the problem with Crysis
>>334448609
So did I, which is ehy everything Bethesda puts out just disappoints me.
>>334444774
I agree. Better graphics and enhanced performance are a great way to compliment a game, but alone do not make it good.
>>334447726
You're retarded
>>334444535
A balance of everything is important.
Having more of one thing over the other can really ruin the overall product your trying to achieve.
>>334449035
What am I looking at? What did he change if he didn't change the texture/resolution?
>>334449207
Texture quality, probably. I still think detailed textures on low poly environments looks weird as fuck, though
>>334448925
Is this serious? This looks like a fucking comedy skit
>>334448872
>Westacuck bait
Lol I know you're trolling but imagine if you actually were this much of a weeb.
>>334449081
I always thought of the Crysis franchise as a really involved tech demo rather than an attempt at an actual game.
>>334449170
Prove me wrong faggot
>>334444535
Framerate and art style matter more to me than graphics.
>>334449207
Nothing. He changed the UV map on the model.
>>334449297
It's the same texture at the same resolution it always was, Bethesda just fucked up the UV map and stretched it across the model at 4-5 times the scale it should've been.
It's just typical Bethesda laziness.
>>334444535
Depends. I can look over graphics if the visual style is done well.
inb4 totalbiscuit
>>334449347
This was by the same guy who did this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxY8yQRJW08
Which was reciting an actual forum post. It might be plausible that someone out there did indeed write whatever he was reading, unironically.
>>334449463
I'd call that incompetence rather than laziness. It doesn't even sound like a difficult fix (not that I'd know).
>>334449207
Just the placement and scaling of the texture. Imagine if a character model had it's face texture flipped 180 degrees and expanded, it'd obviously make the character's face look like an ambiguous blob of shit, even though the texture wasn't actually fundamentally modified
>>334449507
Here's the forum post in question.
http://smashboards.com/threads/lets-end-the-delay.137150/
>>334449427
Why would I? I can't fix you, you need meds
>>334448609
I can still enjoy games from the N64 era without caring much about graphics. But Skyrim had bad graphics because the limitations of the game engine actually made gameplay worse. Everything from shitty wall textures that covered up switches to horrible clipping on objects that made your character unable to walk up some hills or caused arrows to get stuck in invisible walls. The game is the epitome of how bad graphics (and no play testing) can make a game bad.
>>334444535
why does the ps4 pic look more realistic?
what the fuck...
>>334449642
You can't say anything cause you know I'm right
>>334444535
Not to that extent. But yes, they play a role. Aesthetics play a larger one
>>334449507
I'd write it off as fake but this was back in 2008 so anything can fly
>>334449748
The PS4 version of GTA V does not look better than PC, m8
I would love to have better graphics and physics. But good graphics can't save bad modern games.
>>334449641
At least it had a happy ending.
http://smashboards.com/threads/awesome-gamestop-stories-smash-brawl.137916/#post-3744924
Purple Rose even gets an encore performance to vindicate herself on how much of a faggot he is.
>>334450704
Actual forum posts.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11960243
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/950899-final-fantasy-xiii/44292945?page=1
>>334448943
>I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert)
Jesus christ.
>>334444535
if the pc version looks vastly superior it doesnt matter and only gameplay and style matters, if it looks about even or if it is an exclusive(i.e bloodborne, uncharted) then yes it does
>>334444535
I couldn't play Dark Souls 1 because it was such a shit port. Even with DSfix. So, yes, graphics do matter at times.
