>heals for 80% of your health even if you have a huge bar
>can have upwards of 10+ if you're the host or 5+ if you're a phantom
>animation is so quick it is nearly unpunishable
>can roll out of it and punish attempts at hitting you
>can move while doing it thus completely avoiding kukri, throwing daggers, some spells, and arrows
Why? This shit kills PvP and it makes fighting any NPC with a flask no fun either. How long do you think it is going to take until they nerf the fuck out of the recovery time for flasks? They are bloodborne fast, but without the ability to just gun parry the chug.
They wont because it doesnt
haha
>>334444139
It does unless you enjoy two hour duels
>>334443982
Just like in my collector edition, money well spent.
>>334444479
is that a gigantic butt plug?
I miss when you could trade backstabs for flasks in DaS1. It's pretty ridiculous here.
>>334444479
Why do people think estus flasks are green? They're grey/blue when they're empty.
>>334443982
this is why you need to use a huge weapon that kills people below 60% hp
There's an item you can use that prevents estus recovery
>Can roll out of it
>animation is quick
>Can move while doing it
All of these are false. The animation has been slowed down since the previous games and is very easily punishable. You can't roll out of it, believe me, I've tried. Last of all, you can't move while doing it, it keeps you standing still.
>>334444858
You might be colorblind, friend
>>334444936
the tracking/range/aoe on it is pretty horrible, and i think you can roll-dodge it
>>334443982
I will not Estus unless my opponent does it. It's sort of an unspoken code that you both agree to not waste each other's time by drawing the shit out unnecessarily.
>>334444858
Item description for Estus Flask:
"The Undead treasure these dull green flasks. Fill with Estus at bonfires, and drink to restore HP."
>>334444858
They're referred to as emerald colored in the games.
>unpunishable
>>334445086
You should try playing dark souls 3 friend.
>>334445224
>>334445432
>>334445451
they're not green though
>>334445554
oh, honey
>enemy gets below half health
>switch to Soldering Iron and go on the offensive
It's so delicious.
>>334445086
play dark souls 3 you accidentally launched ds2
>>334445086
This is for Dark Souls 3 not Dark Souls 1.
You can walk around while drinking it and they made arrow tracking so shit in this game that it can only hit standing targets. Walking is literally enough to dodge knives, kukri, and arrows meaning you can dodge them even when chugging. Haven't tried spells so I'm not sure what ones you can dodge by walking.
>>334445395
>muh honor and samurai code
Kill yourself
>>334445521
>have to use a very specific moveset to even begin to punish it
Yeah, pretty much unpunishable
>>334444936
Shitters can't handle using items. Anything beyond R1 spam is cheating to them.
>tfw let host die cause I was taking pictures
Woops
>>334445689
>using pansy as weapons
there is also undead hunter charms to chuck bro
>>334443982
>kills shit in pvp
People like you ruin the game.
>>334445521
>fighting someone bad
>specific move only thing like it in the game is the skill of some spears and then the farron greatsword L1
>this occurrence is so rare that you have to spam this shitty webm in every pvp thread on /v/
Nice
>>334445675
>muh honor and samurai code
>Kill yourself
>no fun allowed you must all play as i play
>>334445762
what sword is that and where do you find it
>>334445845
its only used during panic backwards rolls
if they're dodging to the side then I just walk up and start using normal attacks
if they R1 mash, its good to roll and use that wonderful R1 roll attack to punish lots of mash attacks
What are Lloyd's talismans. L2p fag
>>334445881
Lothric sword found off of lothric knights. Since a lot of people are asking I guess it's a rare drop
I fucking hate how stupid you fucking people are
>>334445395
>It's sort of an unspoken code
Not it fucking isn't.
That's just you projecting your autism onto others.
>Dark Souls
>PvP
hokay bud.
>>334443982
Undead charms idiot. If they sippy you get a free combo idiot
>>334443982
just heal yourself. other people aren't obligated to play by your made up rules
>Use Rapier
>No parrying because they make PvP too easy
>Countering though
>People outsustain me because they have 5 more estus than I do
I don't even care about the gank squads. I always had fun dealing with them in dark souls 1 and 2. In this one though, it's next to impossible to fight them all at once; you have to rely on the map and enemies around you for assistance.
This is why I like invading in the catacombs.
>>334446032
>>334446057
You all say Lloyds but do you know how long that lasts?
If you even manage to hit it, it's like, two minutes of being unable to heal with estus.
I'm not sure about the other talisman but Lloyd's are pretty much useless unless it's 1v1
I chug like a motherfucker and only pvp to get convenant rewards. I suck at this game and don't give a fuck. Don't understand the obsession people have with DaS pvp, the game is a single player rpg and the pvp has always been unbalanced.
>>334446182
>If you even manage to hit it, it's like, two minutes of being unable to heal with estus.
Which is fucking more than enough time to kill someone, unless you are telling me you absolutely fucking suck at PvP
Which you obvious do because you are BITCHING ABOUT SOMETHING YOU HAVE THE POWER TO STOP
Non of that is the issue. The issue is getting hit from a guys swing that is 10ft away from you. Peer to peer is fucking awful.
>>334445689
you can do the same with spears, rapiers, katanas...
They fucked up sun invaders hardcore. they could have made them reverse blue sentinels, make them only invade worlds that have 2/3 v 1 red phantoms
>>334445395
>drawing the shit out unnecessarily.
m8, at that point just play tic tac toe online if you want a quick and boring win.
>>334446057
Pro tip of the day; if you throw one at a mimic it puts it to sleep
>>334446182
>2 minutes of being unable to heal with estus
Thats a fuckton of time to kill someone, even if its not 1v1 you shouldn't have a problem with healing.
>>334446057
I always walk around with these, I use them every fight and they are fucking shit.
Fucking impossible to hit if the enemy is rolling like mad and they last very little. It's shit and a terrible solution.
>>334446182
>Charm wears off
>throw another one
Now how hard was that?
>>334446284
Its dedicated servers
>>334445597
>honey
The use of this word is retarded and you should feel retarded.
I'd be OK with the current mechanics if the number of Estus charge was the same for both parties. I can only imagine how duels will be in the future when the host will always have the advantage of Ember mode + double Estus charges.
>>334446457
>i cant aim
>pls rape my face
You know you dont have to lock onto the enemy right? you realize you can fucking throw it anywhere and predict where they will roll, right?
Of course you dont, shitter.
>>334444858
They're green.They are supposed to be made out of forest glass since presumably in the dark souls area there's no source of potash outside of ash.
>>334446503
does not seem like it. Seems just as ass as the other games.
>>334446547
Alright dear.
>>334446547
Bless your heart
>>334446547
Chickpea, please
>>334446673
that would be because from are shit at making games
>>334446660
>Actually aiming this shit with analog controls
Maybe if I was playing with a mouse.
>>334446691
>>334446718
>>334446760
Two can play this game.
>>334446846
Kappa We all know japs dont know how to do online stuff
>>334446279
>>334446415
Two minutes is a guess but it isn't really long at all.
1v1 or 1v2 would be fine, but the fact that, on top of being semi-difficult to land against people who aren't retarded, lloyd's just don't last long enough against people who can hide behind two other phantoms.
You people fight against scrubs or PVP shitters and act like the same things could be done to those who PVP constantly.
>>334446660
Most roll forward or backward from whenever I tried it.
Even if you manage to land one through luck you still have to kill them before they can heal again. If you're attempting to use this against somebody who has half/low health already then good luck, too. The travel time between the talisman and the recovery is greater than it takes to heal
>>334446930
MH4U works pretty well
It actually works really really well, like, its kinda scary how there is no lag
>hollow infused warden twinblades with carthus rouge on a dex + luck build
>any time someone takes a sippy I L2 them for 1000
Healing ain't a problem
>>334447219
How is a luck build by the way? Whats your attack rating?
>>334447219
Where do I get warden twinblades? I've only had sellsword since the start of the game
>no ugs with warcry ability
fucking mad as fuck.
>>334447351
You have few options until late game.Murder Anri for her straight sword and it'll carry you the whole way. 400 AR with 40 luck and way more with actual str/dex.
It's the BBS of DaS3.
Besides that, Corvian Great Scythe has hidden scaling with Luck and it can be obtained somewhat early.
When you get the Hollow infusion, you become godlike. Any weapon with innate bleed that can become infused is amazing.
Warden Twinblades are already amazing just sharp, when infused with hollow and with carthus rouge, you will bleed things in one L1.
There is no bleed cooldown. You can bleed someone twice in a L2 chain on a dex/luck build.Hollow weapons at +10 give you +5 luck, but you need to be 15+ Hollowed. So with two Hollow weapons, you have 10 free luck points.
>>334446093
nah both dark 1 and demon's had it as unwritten rule. when dark 1 broke out on pc, that tight knit community got dissolved because of aspies like you.
>>334443982
>They are bloodborne fast
Not at all.
>mfw 3v1 ganksquads have the audacity to demand that I fight them all at once instead of letting me use trash mobs to my advantage
>>334446547
Darling, please.
>>334448392
>>334448385
>Ganksquad chases me through the map
>Come across a small mob of rats
>They all run away
>They don't even try fighting the rats
>Camp out in a safe spot previously cleared out and wait me out
>Laugh as I play Risk of Rain on my Vita until they do something
These people waited for forty minutes before anybody even dared to move, only because a small mob of rats came by.
>>334443982
>>animation is so quick it is nearly unpunishable
This is wrong actually, figured this out today.
When you are fighting a nigga and he runs off to heal, literally just keep following him. If they are stupid they roll around like crazy and waste all their stamina, or try to heal right in front of you which results in instant death. If they sprint, sprint with them until they get low on stamina.
It's annoying sure, but I've found it's working pretty good so far. Most shitty players don't know what to do. Very hard to do against gankers though.
I wish it was like BB where attacking mid-heal results in a riposte.
>>334445395
were you one of those guys who hated havel/chain moms in dark souls 1 or?
>>334448672
>>334448385
Just do pvp in anor londo/boreal valley.
>invade host and his shit phantom
>not today fuckers, run to giants sleepover party
>sit down, host and his phantom taunting me for not going to get cucked by their gankery wankery
>"Alrdrich Faithful semenlicker420 has invaded!"
>host starts panicking and they retreat back to bonfire
>perform top quality gankspank with my aldrich bro.
That's how 50% of invasions go for me, and it's great.
>>334449371
Honestly every time I've been invaded, I never had a phantom with me.
And usually (not every time, but a lot of the time), the person that invaded me has been cool enough to let me deal with the enemies I was fighting when he invaded before trying to fight me.
I know I've been lucky. Just waiting for the shit community to catch up with me
>>334449910
Chances are if you're alone without a phantom an invader would be more likely to engage you
>>334449965
Yeah you'd think so but these people were pretty cool.
Like I said, I know I was just lucky.
