How is the PVP in Dark souls 3?
Heard magic is weak is it true?
>>334443748
magic is shit, miracles is shit, STR builds are shit. go dex or go home
The meta right now is high poise, high stamina, spam the high speed weapon of your choice.
Should I spend 78,000 souls to cure my hollowing?
>>334445748
sure if you made a cute character
>>334445748
You lock yourself out of thesecret ending
>>334447101
If I do or don't?
>>334447357
If you do.
That lady will go away if she showed up after Yoel dies.
>>334445316
I think this is probably true there are tons of longsword fags when I invade
>>334443748
Magic has always been shit for PvP in DaS, and it's no different here. Best builds for PvP are still STR/DEX with a fast weapon with good damage and plenty of rolling. It's no different.
>>334447484
But I look like fucking beef jerkywhen I take my helmet off
>>334445316
is there videos showing what poise actually does in 3?
i only see hyper armour preventing stagger never poise
best dex weapons?
>dork souls
>pvp
>>334447729
You can buy purging stones for 4500 souls each.
Other than that, all you can do is avoid dying
Duels are fucking dead.
Purple/Red Signs will always make you spawn in odd locations as opposed to the Dragons of old and the host will ALWAYS be at an advantage due to ember mode (30%hp) and double the estus charges.
I already miss the DaS2 Iron Keep bridge.
Magic is fundamentally flawed in souls games. The only way to make magic be good would be to make it like melee, and then it wouldn't be magic.
Does the BoB arena exist in this game?
>>334447797
chaos blade
>>334445316
Easy counter is parry confirming, so may people will just spam r1 even when you have your shield up, it makes it easy to just parry while they flail away and then hit them back
>>334448052
not true, most hosts choose to summon reds soap sign only when embered but you don't have to be embered to do so
but yeah it can be hard to find each other
>>334451928
Didn't know that, but still won't help much. Not to mention the huge differences in Estus Charges.
I'm really annoyed about this, when I'm invading someone I don't expect a duel but at least I could go to the hot PVP zones like Oolacile in DaS or Iron Keep in DaS2 and get my duel fix there.
At least include a shitty arena system like AotA if you are going to leave us hanging like this.
>>334451928
I haven't seen any red signs when dead, and I only see purple signs when in ember form.
I guess a lot of people haven't even found the red soapstone because the tongue covenant is so well hidden.
>>334447484
What if she didn't? Yoel is dead for me, I only unlocked true strength 3 times, and she didn't show up.
>>334452430
I'd assume if the host summons you by red soapstone neither of you would be healing, so estus shouldn't matter
Of course, you always get faggots who summon in reds and then gank/chug but hopefully most hosts who summon reds aren't lovers of the same sex
Unless you're saying people shouldn't chug and should fight honorably when you invade them, which is objectively wrong
>>334452575
You don't buy the red soap sign, its a drop from an enemy on the way to the fingers
>>334452725
You had to do it five times, which means dying ten times
It's not really clear when Yoel's death is triggered though
I don't like PvP in this game.
People will say git gud and welcome to dark souls like they usually do but the odds are stacked way to much against invaders.
Host's have 50% extra health and you have reduced healthing items. Magic builds are dead and 90% of all invasions are phantoms.
There isn't a way to deal with mutiple phantoms because there isn't any decent spells to break up players. You can't instantly backstab, meaning you can't punish chuggers, and trying to kill that last phantom who has a fraction of health left will end up getting you kill by the other across the room.
People will disagree and spew meme's as usual but that's how I see it. Might as well not even have an invasions system when there isn't an incentive to use it, since the outcome just consists of you dying to 2 phantoms and a host.
>>334452751
I had a lot of fights with chuggers in DaS2 and I didn't mind that, I could chug too after all. Point is that both players started with the same number of charges, 12. Now here one will start with the double of the other. If the host decides to start chugging the summon is fucked and is in an objectively worse position.
>>334453074
>magic builds are dead
>sorcerer is best anti gank squad counter because other phantoms can get 1 shot
>>334453223
>the summon
Except almost all of the fights have 2 summons.
>>334445210
>STR builds are shit
Dragonslayer Greataxe disagree with you
>>334453074
I thought this and then I started using throwing weapons and Giant tree seeds when I'm host
>>334443748
>first invader
Of course those "skilled" players invade me in the swamp, where else.
While i was fighting him and a monster a blue guy got summoned and helped end the fight.
>second invader
Get invaded while fighting 2 knights shield/spear & shield/sword.
While fighting 3v1, kill 1 mob off, get invader to low health he uses estus while i keep fighting with the remaining AI, get them both to low HP and before i land the killing blow on the invader the AI kills me.
Invader claps like he actually managed to kill me. 10/10
>third and fourth
Hide in plain sight and have lunch.
They got bored and left.
>fourth invader
He had to learn the hard way that greatswords are faster than ultra greatswords.
I think its ok.
To me seems like the balance and netcode is better than previous ones or i just got better.
>>334453321
I was talking about duels. By summoned I meant the opponent, as in the Red that the hosts calls in.
To reiterate, I saw a lot of people healing during duels and I was 100% ok with that because I had the ability to do the same. Not so much now.
Magic builds being bad is a meme. You can literally get S int scaling on any weapon, meaning you'll have an insane damage output with weaponry and also optional spells on the side.
>>334453074
>Magic builds are dead
Fucking good. God you magicfags are so obnoxious.
>>334443748
Awful in all honesty.
Maybe it gets better at 120 duels but invasions are so hilariously bad at times.
There's no negatives to the host instantly summoning a phantom after the last died, there's no punishment for spamming R1 if your weapon is fast enough due to no one having poise, just like in dark souls 1 there's ganksquads waiting for invaders but this time there can be 3phantoms and as soon as you invade two blue phantoms will be up your ass immediately. The list can go on but in all honesty in the 10~ or so hours invasions I've done I've had very little fun past level 30 and a lot of anger from a plethora of terrible design decisions.
>>334445210
spoken like a true casul
greatsword is life
not the weapon class, THE greatsword
>>334453507
Not really a legitimate argument. Kind of ruins the variety in builds and just makes every invasions 3 people spamming the attack button with a straight sword that will catch you between rolls.
>>334443748
Played for 26.5 hours total to beat the game + 1.5 hours after sweeping up missed things.
I spent easily 90% of the time embered, and I got invaded all of 3 times.
Not sure why it was so rare.
>>334453530
>here's no negatives to the host instantly summoning a phantom after the last died
I had an invasion at the Cathedral where I killed the same phantom 3 times before getting the host. It was ridiculous.
>>334453223
use a undead hunter charm when they do that shit then laugh at them as they flail about with their estus like the downies they are
>>334453597
It's better than having someone oneshot you with dark bead like before. It's cheesy and you know it. There's no "fun" or "variety" in that.
Have you forgot the hexes autism at dark souls 2 release?
>>334453507
did you see OP? magic can 1 shot people
maybe only bad in fight clubs but in general pvp its best
Dark Sword is king in PVP.
>insane base damage at 10+
>b scaling in str and dex as refined
>straight sword moveset and speed
>greatsword poise special
>long reach
>>334453507
>Thank god this RPG finally invalidated every build after the last one invalidated every armour.
Question:
If a weapon I'm using has both str and dex as the same attribute grade, how do I level up my character? Do I put points into both? What if the grade changes after reinforcement? I'm confused.
>>334453723
Dark Bead is easy to punish. You aren't guarenteed to invade someone with Dark Bead everytime unlike here where you invade people with phantoms 90% of the time.
Dark Bead can be roll backstabbed as well. Also yes, hexes were bad but then again I also hated Dark Souls 2 PvP.
>>334453624
>26.5 hours
You're literally like in the top 2% of players in term of progression. Most normies are still getting through Ithylien of the aboreal valley or whatever. Roll a new character and enjoy yer pvp
>>334453835
You do a quality build, 40/40
Or you use an infusion to nerf one and increase the scaling with another.
>>334453680
Undead hunter charms are:
500 Souls each.
Very slow to throw
Very low range
Last about fifteen seconds
Can only carry 5 at a time
The only time you're going to land one is if the host is fat rollingno one ever since roll is the best it's ever been in any souls gameor you tank a hit and risk being stunlocked to death. Literally everything invasion related is stacked against the invader to untold levels.
The ganking is real this time around.
100% solid net code, though.
>>334453910
>100% solid net code, though.
Nice try, Fromdrone.
What is with the retarded fucking item limit in this game?
God it's fucking unneeded.
>>334453880
>Qualty build, 40/40
You mean put points into both str and dex evenly, right?
>>334453859
>You're literally like in the top 2% of players in term of progression. Most normies are still getting through Ithylien of the aboreal valley or whatever. Roll a new character and enjoy yer pvp
nah im a normie and i just finished the game yesterday with 25 hours
>>334453851
>people with phantoms
They're lots still playing the game. At least consider that. Ebin pp and fight clubs aren't really on anyones mind except autists at the moment.
>>334453680
Still doesn't make duels fair if one player is supposed to be keeping tabs on the other. I'm not talking about invasions.
>>334454116
>nah im a normie and i just finished the game yesterday with 25 hours
Dude I'm a fucking social outcast and I beat the game in 35 hours. You're SERIOUSLY underestimating your power level.
Imagine a partially sentient lump[ of moss. Imagine you instructed it to play dark souls 3. That's where your average DS3 player is in the game right now.
is there really way to join the moundmaker covenant if you beat the tree too soon?
>>334452831
That's what I mean, that area was super hard to find and I was convinced I'd 100% it until I googled how to respec characters and found a video guiding me to that part of the church.
>>334451791
Yea too bad there's always 3 other dudes doing the same thing. It's like being in a blender.
>>334454384
>go to the entrance of the boss room after having defeated 3 Lords of Cinder. There you can activate the summoning sign of Sirris of the Sunless Realms and join in cooperation. If successful, you will acquire the Covenant. You must not have turned Sirris hostile towards you
from fextralife. havent tried it out meself
>>334454295
>Be normie
>don't know names of places
I roamed around a lot looking for secrets n shit. I'm surprised by how huge the maps are. Anyway I need a bit if help. I beat the big tree monster thing and I'm now going under the church into the 3rd area.
How come my health doesn't get halved when I die? It did in dark souls 2 and I thought that's what made the game be considered hard. I only got to the chariot boss in that game before rage uninstalling.
Also, on top of the... Main place with the npcs, there's this bird voice saying the same thing over and over. Any idea what to do with it?
>>334454384
you can join later but you need to do sirris questline and its easy to miss or fail(joining fingers) you can join the fingers but you cant equip the item or do anything with rosiaia (respec etc) or she will hate you
>>334454680
The life reduction thing doesnt happen in this game. Check an online guide for what you can give to snuggly or just drop shit at random if you want a blind playthrough. It doesnt affect the game.
>>334454554
This.
I think I'm giving up invasions, straight swords/katanas seem to do the same damage as greatswords and punish anyone who tries to fight them. The only real way you can win in invasions is if someone comes at you one at a time or a bunch of strong NPC's get aggro'd; which they subsequently ignore you and run back to the bonfire to insert the bonfires pommel into their ass.
>>334445210
I thought dark swords destroy shit.
>>334454295
>You're SERIOUSLY underestimating your power level.
Doubt it.
Most of the players arent so far into the game because they probably busy cooping and invading.
Like after 15 hours into the game i was a bit rushing to finish and start a new character, because got a bit bored of the claymore, since i used that in DS2 too.
I only did coop to get 30 Sunight Medals for the covenant levels and a few more just for fun.
>>334455008
Refined Dark Swords, yes
>>334454886
I'm assuming snugly is the name of the bird voice orrr what? Just discard items in the nest on top of the shrine?
And one other thing, I feel like my leveling is too slow. I see people with huge ass stamina bars and health. My health slowly goes up but my stamina doesn't seem to move at all. It would be great to just hear what the best things to level up are for a knight. I feel like I'm missing so much stuff in this game the way these discussions on /v/ goes.
Why do people spam emotes when they win a 3v1
>>334455168
Is it much better than 40 str / 30 faith build with lightning / darkmoon blade enhancement?
>>334443748
PVP is fun. Once you beat Pontius Pilate there's a great little arena right outside the bonfire. Been raping fools all night with my rapier.
>>334447484
How do I get her armor? Without killing her, I mean.
>>334455242
to trigger you
>>334455008
Dark sword is good, but why can't dark hand be a usable shield
I think it would be balanced if it was 90 or 80 all resist owing to the shitty 30 stability
>>334455168
Heavy is better.
>>334443748
Will they fix the farron covenant? Seriously I invaded like 3 people, gave me 3 "couldn't invade" and I'm at the end of the game.
I know my weapon is probably too high level, but I went to look and I'm not the only one who can't invade no matter what
please I just wantthe greatshield of artorias
I'm just so happy
I'm just so happy magic is dead.
Not that it used to be hard to dodge
I'm just so happy because magicfags btfo
>>334455883
just farm swordgrass from the goat dudes
>>334455924
Magic is only dead if it's 1v1
1v2 all you gotta do is get the kamehameha and in middle of the phantoms fighing each other you blast an asshole.
>>334455975
Wait this game has offline farming methods of leveling covenants again like DaS1?
>>334455975
Yeah but it's pretty annoying to run, kill 3 guys, make it back to the bonfire for 10 hours
>>334455883
Did you try only turning on local search?
>>334456063
forgot there was a closer bonfire
>>334456002
Demon's Souls is the only game that locks you out of items if you're not online.
>>334456002
>like ds1
Most ds2 worked offline too.
>>334456162
I don't recall there being any methods in DaS2. I had to wait until I got home from my work trip so I could get online and get my Sunbro medals.
Is it possible to grind titanite slabs or is there only a finite amount?
I usually suck at PvP in these games, but I'm wrecking people in this game. I have the Black Knight Greataxe and I kill people in one hit with a charged heavy attack. It's pretty stupid, actually.
>>334456063
Just go get the unlimited homeward bone to remove the run back.
can't even connect online
>>334453074
>you can't punish chuggers
EVERY FUCKING TIME
EVERY FUCKING GAME
LLOYD TALISMAN
RETARDS I SWEAR
>>334455883
you kidding? this covenant fucking spams me and summons me every minute. it's been cooling down lately but it's insane.
>>334453074
Cry some more, gankbaby.
>>334455993
Still not possible to get hit by it.
>>334455883
Ive never been summoned once for this and the dorkmoons.
>>334456496
I had the covenant equipped through the entire game and lately its just failed summons that I got
>>334443748
Its shit. PvP has been shit in every Souls game except for early release Demon's Souls. And that is only because no one knew how to play or about stats or anything else.
As soon as people figured out that the invincibility frames you get from rolling are an enormous crutch every meta has just been tumbleweed simulators until someone lands a hit into a stun-lock with their huge anime sword.
I cannot understand why anyone would PvP in souls games.
>>334456548
Thanks for proving my point.
>game has half decent graphics
>uses shitty glowy effects that just paint your characters a shitty piss yellow or orange instead of any actual cool magic effects
>>334452894
Yoel dies when you get to the catacombs
I wish it was more than longsword spam. UGS feel kickass when you hit the full charge on someone, but then you realize that you could have killed them with a one-hander with a lot less effort in the time it took you to punish one off-timed roll..
>>334456684
>I cannot understand why anyone would PvP in souls games.
Tiny dick compensation from killing people who are trying to PvE. Similar to PvP servers in MMOs.
>>334456752
>Game has lighting engine
>Just resorts to post processing effects to make an area appear dark
>>334456684
PvP in DeS was god tier because the host couldn't enter the boss fog if there was an invader present
god knows why they changed that, you can just book it to the boss now especially with closely placed bonfires
>>334456213
you could farm the medals off the fat guys in harvest valley, drop rate was ridiculously low though
Has anyone had any luck being summoned as a darkmoon?
I've had this thing flashing for hours while I've been fucking about but no summons.
>>334456518
>>334453890
500 Souls is fucking nothing I have like +250 charms and i'm invading at SL20 with a +2 wep. There is nothing else I'm using my souls on apart from upgrading other weapons to +2.
They are slow but they hit through shield, through rolls and even have an AoE effect, you're literally shit at the game if you miss. The range doesn't matter because you're supposed to throw it DURING combat or it's pointless.
I have invaded many times but not once I've ran out of these, git gud retard.
How would a dex weapon like, say, a scythe or one of the faster longswords do with a heavy transfusion? Would the bump in scaling in STR outmatch the lost scaling from DEX if your stats were like 50/20?
>>334457445
Nope, never. Neither as a blue sent or a swamp protector. Makes me think these covenants are broken or something. Its weird that I can invade as a red phantom in the swamp but not get summoned to protect it.
>>334457559
Trying to use a talisman during combat is suicide since you will just get gangbanged by the phantoms. Being slow is just a death sentence.
>gitgud
Proving my point further desu senpai.
>>334457614
I've been summoned as a watchdog twice but both times were just phantom gangbangs so I wasn't really too into that.
But then that kinda sums up all pvp in this game.
>>334457445
No, Darkmoon is almost impossible to get summoned by the time you find the covenant honestly. No god damn player is in way of the blue by that time in the game.
>>334457445
Dorkmoon here. I ain't seen shit for four plus hours. I made a big mistake joining them.
>>334455924
The only magic type not feeling it is Pyromancy since its basically demoted to Melee magic.which is fucking amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na92ny72j4M
>>334457963
I had summons every 20 minutes or so as level 70+ and +10 weapons at dragonfaggot mountain
Also I just started a second playthrough as assassin. Vordt is a lot harder when you don't have a good shield. I couldnt understand why people were having trouble with him before. but now I realize it's because vordt has shockwave bullshit on par with DS2 in his second phase.
>summon mad phantom
>pretend to be afk
>they do the HEY gesture, and i do nothing
>they gesture by the bonfire and wait for me
>stab them in the back, then throw undead hunter charm
>thrust until they die
>give my own HEY gesture as they die
>summon them a second time
>my phantom buddy fucks him up this time
I don't know why i did it. I feel guilty.
>>334455168
>>334455008
Pretty funny conseding it was by far the shittiest straight sword in dark souls 1
>>334459480
no worries mate they're probably writing a salty greentext story about it somewhere right now
For some reason I'm still here while the host and his buttbuddies fight the boss.
>>334457110
I have an 8.5 inch dick and I love ganking faggots such as yourself in PVP.
>>334455883
I get invasions literally every 5 seconds my good man.
>Dark Sword, Farron Greatsword, and DEX shit will go un-nerfed while FROM nerfs large STR weapons even more
>mfw next patch nerfs the FUGS even more
just fucking remove huge STR weapons from the game if you hate them so much, miyazaki
Where are your favorite areas to pvp?
>>334460568
Is it possible to invade on the huge stretch you fight the firstborn on?
Probably not because it's a former boss arena
>>334460568
Lothric Princes
Opening the fight as a dragon walking down the stairs breathing fire as my ancient dragon stando does as well can't be matched
WHY ARE SHIELDS SO USELESS NOW
HALF THE SHIELDS FROM DS1 THAT HAD 100 PHYSICAL REDUCTION NOW HAVE LIKE 60
THIS DOESNT EVEN BLOCK HALF OF BOSS ATTACK DAMAGE PLUS YOU GET POISE BROKEN. YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST STAND THERE AND TAKE THE HIT UNBLOCKED BECAUSE IT WONT STAGGER YOU AS LONG
I WANTED TO DO A SHIELD ONLY RUN AFTER MY FIRST, BUT NOOOOOO.
I UNDERSTAND SHIELDS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A CRUTCH FOR CASUALS BUT THIS NERF WAS TOO FAR
>>334460568
anor londo because i can snipe people easy
>>334443748
Spacing + Poise = King
If you control both, you win.
>the PVP has been irredeemably shit in every souls game and bloodborne
>hmm I wonder what we'll get this time
>>334460568
I like to do red eye invasions in Irythill because it's the only place I stand a chance of having other invaders to counter the two phantoms that are always with every host. Usually an aldritch bro or even two will show up.
Failing that, it's also one of the few places with mobs that are dangerous enough to be worth retreating into. Silver Knight archers are srs bsns when you also have to watch an invader.
>hardly get any souls for PvP
Thats annoying as shit. A red sign duel should net the winner at least 50k souls.
I found that hermit guy collapsed in his corner, is it because I never took his free levels? I feel kinda bad he just up and died.
>>334454957
>straight swords/katanas seem to do the same damage as greatswords
Anyone confirm? Is the kill time of monsters faster with let's say a longsword instead of the greatsword?
>>334443748
Shit
>Everyone wearing cloths or really light armor because they nerfed heavy and medium armor to shit
>Magic and Faith are shit
>pyromancy is impossible to hit people with
>Everyone is full ganksquad form, so you are not going to get 1 or even 2v1 matches, just 2 or 3 phantoms, plus a bluenigger if you get unlucky
>The most help you will get is another invader, but you are still fucked since you have less health, less estus, less people, and you can hurt each other with your attacks
>Most people are dexfags since strength weapons have gotten nerfed and poise is shit again
>No one uses unique weapons or boss soul weapons because they have shit scaling and are overall inferior to regular boring weapons that have been infused.
>>334462112
[spoilers]he dies anyways, but another NPC replaces him[/spoiler]
![drang_hammers[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/DmMnwAa.png "drang_hammers[1].png")
>>334445210
>STR builds are shit
Say that to my maracas not online see what happens cuck.
>>334462830
yuria only comes if you take the free levels so no nobody replaces him
>>334443748
>THOSE BIG DAMN SPLASH SCREENS BLOCKING 25% OF THE AREA
so glad I threw in the towel on this shit at DaS2. Fuck them. This is bad fucking programming on a base level, and has been a shit design choice since the first one.
So, really, fuck them all.
>>334462461
>>No one uses unique weapons or boss soul weapons because they have shit scaling and are overall inferior to regular boring weapons that have been infused.
Does everything have shit scaling in this game? Every time I got a weapon I checked it only to see a C or D on it.
>invade
>get myself low enough that they mindlessly chase me
>lead them to area with difficult enemies
>smash them with sorceries/pyromancies whenever they're mid roll
HA HA AHHHHH LOVE IT MAGGLE
>>334463464
Butcher knife can get S I heard
>>334461247
Get a greatshield if you want to block
Why is the online down right now in ds1 pc? Does anyone know?
>>334463061
You get stun locked by a faster weapon, then whine like a bitch on the Steam forums.
>>334445316
Poise doesn't seem to do shit. I've noticed nothing going from like 0 - 20.
>>334443748
Currently it's a gay ass straight sword R1 spam meta, better start practicing those parries.
>wear the fat armor with tons of poise
>still get staggered after two hits from anything
>greatshields mostly have 60 stability instead of 70
>hyper armor is only decent on charged R2 that will be interrupted by DEX fags or easily avoided since any idiot can see you winding it up
>>334456309The three golden wing Knights on top the castle have a chance to drop them
>>334443748
iduno about magic. My intelligence is about 40 and a soul greatsword takes about a quarter of most invader's health.
>>334443748
Magic isn't weak, magic is balanced. You can't pick a Sorcerer and expect not to die ever until 70% of the way through the game like in Dark Souls 1.
You want a game where magic is weak, try playing Bloodborne and actually using the shitty magic.
>>334445316
>tfw meme weapon this time around is Uchi
>the Uchi is actually one of the slower weapons, the Claymore is better at spamming
I'm planning on a quality build for my first build, like a sword and board with a bastard sword or something.
Should this be okay guys? Please answer
I think I might be addicted to summon farming the ancient wyvern send help.
>>334467091
>Poise doesn't seem to do shit. I've noticed nothing going from like 0 - 20.
I've gone full Havels and still I get staggered nearly instantly.
>>334468180
Ancient Wyvern and Deacons of the Deep are excellent summon farming spots, got all my Sunlight Medals there and a shitload of Embers.
Is long sword good for pvp?
people don't know what's coming for them with this build. it'll suck once the population wisens up tho. but the estoc is op as fuck
>>334461352
>that health bar
Yeah, magic is totally viable
>>334460483
>thinking the farron greatsword needs to be nerfed
Darksword is an actual problem, but the farron GS is pretty much just a free parry machine
>>334467886
>You want a game where magic is weak, try playing Bloodborne and actually using the shitty magic.
Half the magic in Bloodborne are buffs.
Pretty incredible buffs. Quickening slaps a nigger.
>>334461352
Isn't that the spell Gwyndolin uses during his boss fight?
>>334460568
Is that fucking Harsh? Haven't seen this pic in ages, fuark
>>334461247
To be fair spider shield was pretty damn OP. 100% physical + poison and toxic immunity? I'm surprised that was never nerfed through the course of the game.
>>334468750
Your character looks liek roadkill deer coming for revenge. Also why do you think estoc is OP when its shit compared to previous games?
>>334470336
yeah i used the twinkling dragon transformation and had not died yet. looks ugly as fuck but the ffire breath with the twinkling dragon head is neat. estoc seems strong to me because it is super fast, does tons of damage as chaos on my build and staggers everyone so far. tracking is also pretty good, you can easily catch rolling people if you delay your hits a bit.
the main part of this build is one shotting people with the grab tho. pyromancer for life
>>334462260
Yes at least when they're not upgraded.
Even upgraded considering the faster mobs and bosses faster weapons seem a more solid choice.
>can't have been using Executioner's Greatsword with Demon Fist and Talisman off hand
>want to make use of simple and blessed gems to have a constantly regenerating build
>can't decide what to use
Any spears with a moveset like Yorgh's?
Any hammer of axe with the moveset of the Chime Hammer?
Any weapons to recommend for the build?
>>334470336
>Your character looks liek roadkill deer coming for revenge
r8 character
and what about the netcode?
>>334470806
I hate what they did with pyromancy. Fucking japs. Although the visual effect have never been better. I just want to get 93 atunement and cast 7 forbidden suns while investing nothing to int,faith,dex or str and still be able to use a nice sword.
>>334467886
Magic is shit for PvP AND PvP you lying moron
>PvP
>get off one soul arrow or homing soulmass before the invader is right next to you
>after that it's a melee fight because you will never get an opening to cast again
>PvE is the same deal, you get one spell off on a boss and then he's comboing you, you MAY have time for a spell once or twice a minute but at that point you may as well use a real weapon
>>334471457
again, why I said it's not weak, it's balanced.
no more using Soul Arrow and Greater Soul Arrow to easily beat every area up until Demon's Ruins without dying once because it's overpowered and broken.
Magic isn't a newbie crutch anymore, deal with it.
>>334471006
>using ez mode swords
I just hope to fuck the stupid gooks fix the PvP in a patch soon and don't wait until the first DLC to fix it like they did with SM in DaS2.
>>334471346
there is none. multiplayer is a lie. it's all just NPC's
>>334471346
Same old awful Fromsoft shit.
>>334443748
It's fun if you make it fun, you're at a huge disadvantage as the invader because you have less estus and less hp than the host, and the host almost always has help. But if you play dirty or do theme invading, it's enjoyable.
>>334471346
Netcode is actually more terrible than DaS2 somehow. It might just be me but I'm getting probably 50% of my invasions/summons failed. Also it doesn't help that when the summon actually works another 50% of the time the fogwall glitch happens.
No idea how From haven't refined the netcode after 5 fucking games but whatever.
In terms of difficulty, this feels like that hardest yet. I didn't finish 2 though, just SOTFS tho.
>>334471571
>it's balanced now because it went from overpowered to not even viable
You don't even know what balanced means you retard
>>334443748
Aggressive straight sword/rapier players rule the PvP right now, ultra greatswords are extremely easy to avoid, do shit damage for the effort it takes to hit people and some of them won't even keep enemies stunlocked for 2 swings. It's an unbalanced shitfest
>>334471571
How is it balanced when it's straight up weaker than everything else? The damage is absolutely shit, you have super slow attacks and you have less healing because you need FP flasks. The only reason to go a caster now is so you can buff your melee weapon.
>tfw you can parry while facing the opposite direction
PVP is literally nothing but sprint R1 katana faggots and R1 spamming straight sword cunts.
Literally the worst fucking PVP in the series by far.
>>334472839
>Expecting anything else from the brain dead Souls PvP community
If it's isn't a shirtless 40/40 build with a long sword, they think it should be made nonviable or be removed from the game.
2handing a claymore/wolfsword/Greatsword seems to be pretty viable. The reach on the r1s and roll attacks gives you some good options. I like having a fast weapon in my off hand as well like Estoc.
>get to Crucifixion Woods
>want to kill NPC dickwraith to get his shit
>suddenly get invaded by 2 additional schmucks who think they're hot shit for ganging up on one guy and killing him
Every time.
Why is this allowed
>>334471269
I'm not an iggy azaelia fan.
>>334478598
... But 3 people can't invade you at the same time
>>334452430
What are you even talking about?
Nothing you say makes any sense
Just go outside the Pontiff's Room, there are constant fight clubs there. Get summoned, wait for a partner, then have your honourable duel.
The host isn't going to be fighting you, he's too busy summoning more phantoms.
Are you saying you need to summon somebody 1v1 for it to be a "proper" duel? Come on dude, that's dumb.
>>334479134
They did. Watchdogs.
>>334471720
If I need tongues I just lurk at the catacombs bridge, then it doesn't really matter how many phantoms they have.
estoc is king
>>334453074
Nah. Maybe invading in the early areas is a bit harder. But when you get to places like Irythil, Anor Londo, or that forest with all the goats the enemies are so strong it's very easy to use them to your advantage. I win 9/10 invasions on Irythil just because of the Armored Fire Spellcaster guys.
>>334447101
Seriously who gives a fuck about this? Its always better to get the most out of your character. Souls games have never been about the endings.
>>334470806
How is Pyromancy in this game? Whats the scaling on it? I heard its not like the first game where pyromancies scale with the flame hand directly.
>>334443748
Regular Invasions favor the host way too fucking much, if you use the red soapstone you get ganked into oblivion and auto-invasion covenants are broken and don´t work, atleast for me
It´s pretty shit, just like every game
>>334471598
weak should fear the strong !
>>334481661
You need some investment in Faith/Int for the higher stuff.
I would say it's arguable the strongest of the three magics, outside of high Int Soul Spear. Still doesnt decent damage with a good range and AoE.
In contrast offensive Miracles are utter garbage and 90% of the sorceries aren't worthwhile.
Attunement is still a garbage stat so I would just go to 18 ATT and use the +attunement slot rings.
So, what's the pvp cut off for this one? 100? 120?
>>334483164
I would argue 100 is probably fine. Any more would be absurd.
>>334443748
What do i level up for a butcher knife build, I'm new to dark souls
>>334445210
>STR is shit
I suppose my Great Club did jack shit against 4 Gank Squads in a row.
>Estus healing is instant again
>Lloyd's / Undead Hunter Charm doesn't last long enough
>Backstabs are too slow to punish it now
>People are even healing in soapstone duels now
>>334475065
fucking beautiful
i find it sad people are already trying to make a fucking sl meta, and they want it 120 because they are dark souls fags
cancer ass community
So where are good PVP spots? Farron area seems good
>>334483164
The SL meta has generally been, since Demon Souls, whatever SL is needed to make a proper quality or magic build.
That SL for DaS3 seems to be 120.
You can make decent pure STR or pure DEX builds at SL100, but you would be leaving a few builds out.
How do I get the secret ending besides be hollow and follow the Londor lady's questline? Please no big spoilers.
>Get invaded
>The guy is animationless and sliding across the floor
>taking like a billion fire hits from seemingly miles away
Fucking Christ. I'm glad that this is only the first time that happened to me after 60 hours. I've seen people do the sliding before in Webms , shit looks funny with spells, but it is not fun to be on the receiving end.
>>334484143
I guess but limitations are the heart of creativity.
I'm at level 75 and I basically don't need any more stats.
Past about SL100 all you would be levelling is health.
>>334484463
What are you stats right now?
>>334484452
I had it happen with a Warrior. I ended up beating him, thankfully.
>>334484452
I've had someone slide across then suddenly become invisible. He did shit damage too so if it wasn't for the god damn cloak of invisibility he would of died.
>>334455883
how do you get summoned?
What are the best dex weapons?
And is the sharp infusion the only good infusion for dex?
>>334472658
2 is casual tier, not hard at all.
>>334484907
Equip the covenant item. Just chill and be summoned. Keep in mind it will only summon you for invaders of the forest within your SL range. Given that the game just came out, if you're not SL 20-30, you'll never get summoned for it. I just capped out the covenant today on an SL 20 guy. Was getting summoned an average of 10 times an hour.
I've been playing the game a lot.
Strength builds are fine for PvP and PvE
Dex builds are good for PvP and fine for PvE
Pure Magic/hexes/miracle builds are bad, but when backed up by one of the many faith/int scaling weapons they're fine
Pure pyro builds work okay, but you still want a backup weapon.
Chuggers are a bit of a problem, although loyds are pretty usable this time around (hit people in rolls and through shields) but you only have 5, so you have to use it when it will hit, not when it might.
Invaders have a rough time, invade at low levels or find fight clubs, don't bother otherwise.
The PvP is the best out of all soulsborn games IMO
>Its a "Invader hides behind pack of mobs and plays the waiting game" episode
How good is the Moonlight Greatsword in this game? Worth leveling my INT for?
>>334453910
>100% solid net code, though.
Yeah, invading a hovering Ghost is 100% solid
If DEX increases casting speed, would that be a good idea for faith?
>>334486528
>It's a "host summons ten guys for one invader and expects him to just attack them" episode
>>334484420
A-anyone?
>people actually think magic is bad
Top lel
Get good, nancyboys.
http://youtu.be/M-R3-n5p6t0
>>334486528
>>334486690
I guess no side of the PVP is fun then
BETTER INFUSE OR NOT YOUR WEAPON.
>>334487080
It's fun for whites and sunbro's. Also there are tons of fight clubs and you can do some cool tricks, for example you can put sunbro thing in your covenant slot, put down a red sign and it looks yellow to others, so hosts summon you thinking you're a sunbro. You can use the ring that makes you look like a white phantom with this for a free backstab a lot of the time too.
>>334487469
The sun bro red sign is pretty fucking clearly marked as red, and the test says DARK SPIRIT
Anyone know if there are palestones in this game or some way to remove infusion? I fucked up and put a raw gem.
>>334443748
Magic isn't weak, it just barely tracks at all, and almost all spell casts need to be twice as fast
>>334487080
are you kidding me Purple Parrots are fun as fuck to play
Any suggestions on how to upgrade the Uchi? I'm still a bit new to the series, but unsure about upgrading.
>>334443748
i made a shitty video of some matches i had today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSuPG0Jtp88
no bully pls
>>334487837
shriving stones
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Shriving+Stone
>>334488774
Thanks m8
>>334488619
WARZONE
>>334483895
>People are even healing in soapstone duels now
This shit is the worst, why summon if you're just gonna heal?
>>334488273
Depends on your preferences, familia. You could either add a scaling gem like dex/magic and boost the respective attribute for that sweet damage bonus. Or you could just go with something like raw/fire, ignore scaling and spend those levels on something else.
>>334488619
sacred flame is so fucking satisfying to land
>>334488619
Pyro vs soul stream snipe
My only grievance with PvP is how fast you could heal with Estus.
I don't care that the enemy has twice as many Estus uses as I do, nor do I care that the person I'm invading has a max cap gank squad.
I use the wolf greatsword and dominate groups like that easily.
My issue is that I could do these massive AoE attacks to deal damage but then end up just getting outsustained because I couldn't 100 - 0 them.
>>334489053
thanks! i'm trying to go for a dex build with a bit of pyromancy, so i guess i'll try something for nice dex bonus. will look it uo now
>>334445210
>STR builds are shit
git gud.
>>334486625
Okay, more like 95% solid. Every single other game in the series had me fighting with 100+ ping, but this one feels like local multiplayer with almost zero lag and no real problems. In the 50 somewhat matches I played last night, only one host had stuttering movement but even he wasn't too bad of a fight.
>>334453890
>Can only carry 5 at a time
thats a huge fuck up. this needs to be patched
>Someone invades
>They find me
>Go run off and stand next to the strongest enemy in the area
>MFW its one of the enemies that do friendly fire damage and they end up killing themselves
Crystal Lizard says fuck you.
Is there any way to get the lady from Londor's armor without killing her?
>>334489153
And before anybody could say "b-but muh charms.. !", people who aren't PvP shitters will literally never get hit by them.
They're slow, they have a small AoE that could be negated via I-frames, and they don't last long enough even when you do manage to land one.
The only time they're useful is if you're fighting 1v1. 1v2 just means their buddy will cover them for the ten seconds it takes for the effect to remove itself.
I'd be fine with the Estus usage if Talismans lasted like.. 5 minutes or so. At least it'd be worth risking my neck for. But it doesn't. They literally just need to defensively roll for ten seconds until they can heal again.
is everyone who invades only tactic to run attack with rapiers and katanas?
