>This is somehow better than bb pvp
Please explain, how the fuck this fair?
git gud
>>334397681
>Souls PvP outside of any arena
>fairness
Get destroyed or git gut, faggot
>>334397681
That guy put himself into a disadvantageous position and paid the price for it, what's the problem?
>invader talking about fairness
Yeah, it's really fair if I get invaded by two people at once without summons.
>>334397681
That should be named Justice.webm
Fuck dick-ass faggots who get their fun from ruining the fun of others.
>>334397681
>4 v 1
>WELL I GUESS I BETTER RUN IT LIKE A JOBBER
It's amazing how so many bad people are complaining that they are shit in invasions.
>invade someone's world with the intention of fucking up their game progress
>bitch about 'fairness'
I am always amused by this shit.
>>334398449
>>334398271
>>334398119
Well to be fair, that webm is showing a mound maker getting pulverized, which was summoned by the host's own volition.
In good games, like das, des and bloodbrone
I could force host to play by my rules and have more or less fair fight
And this worked fine
>>334398898
You can't summon 4 phantoms
>>334397681
Real talk, that nigga got gang raped
>phantom gank squads
This has been a thing since DeS, it's not exactly a new concept
If you're going to invade it's very likely that the host will be summoning faggots to help him with whatever, there's hardly any incentive to not have a phantom or two.
>>334398898
As a mound maker, I know what im in for when I put that purple sign down. Hosts are every bit as predatory as I am
>>334397681
>let's himself get locked down in a corner
fucking scrub
This is what it's like when you fucking cunts run away the second you start getting rekt and hide behind a giant crab.
Hello darkness my old friend
>>334399908
>Host has twice the estus I do
>WHY DONT YOU STAY AND 1 V 1 ME FAG
>No humanity to burn to keep healing.
Nah man, I'm at a disadvantage no matter which route I take. You cant fault me for using the enviroment
Is magic any good in this? I've gotten my 30 Sun Medals and not once in those thirty matches plus the countless more that went tits up have I seen a mage or someone like me who uses Miracles on the regular.
I mean, shit, I've seen more bowfags than magic users
>>334400098
Give it time, we'll eventually get to the DS status quo of OP magic one shotting everyone.
>tries to stop others from proceeding in the game
>cries like a fag when other use any means possible to stop you from doing that
everytime
I am loving all of these invader tears lately.
Almost makes me want to get DaS 3 early, but I'd much rather get it on sale.
>>334399004
>And this worked fine
No it didn't. It worked fine because you choose to be "fair".
My first PvP was in Undead Burg at starter level. Some asshole with a sicle came in and let me stab him in the back two times. Did nothing. Then he one-hitted me.
So much for 'fairness'. After that I always pulled the plug when I was invaded. No regrets.
>>334397681
That's not pvp, you invaded and complain like a retard.
If you want pvp go to the new iron keep bridge spot or drop a mad summon sign for actual PVP.
Fucking babies want everything handed to them because they're terrible at the game.
>>334400074
Then you can't fault anyone else for summoning a squadron of phantoms. Also why are you complaining about conditions when you choose to invade? Nobody asked for you to come waltzing in and cower behind the environment.
>i-i-i just w-want honorable d-d-duels
fuck you.
>>334398898
>that webm is showing a mound maker getting pulverized, which was summoned by the host's own volition
That actually makes this a pretty dick move. I summoned a mound maker out of curiosity once but then I got invaded before he summoned in. The guy was nice enough to let me 1v1 the invader before fighting him. They seem like bros to me so people who summon them in with their entourage of phantoms are faggots
What's the worst is when you get teamed up on after being purple summoned. I don't get it. what do they gain from doing it? At my level I give about 300 souls tops.
>>334397821
>>334398119
>>334398449
>>334400238
Fucking carebears are pathetic and ruining another franchises' pvp.
Guess what, faggots? Invasions have been a viable thing in every single Dark Souls game up until now. The only reason From is pandering to you skillless tards is to appeal to more filthy casuls.
I love the irony of telling us to "git gud" when the game has gimped invaders healthbars and set them up by prioritizing invading into ganksquads. This is because you filthy casuls could never "git gud" in the first place and kept complaining about invasions being "too hard" while you breeze through content with your phantom buttbuddies.
>>334400875
>>334398898
Actually that's a mound maker that invaded.
>>334400892
christ get a grip man. fucking baby
>>334400961How to tell the difference? I have 20 hours and I'm clueless about pvp and covenat stuff
I don't quite understand the Ember vs Spirit health difference? Why does that even exist?
Is PvP going to exclude Ember hosts altogether?
>>334401081
>christ get a grip man. fucking baby
Not an argument, bro.
They absolutely gimped one of my favorite features of Souls games. I like being invaded too as a solo player. It just doesn't happen with this new bullshit system.
The singleplayer is still fantastic but holy shit did they fuck up pvp.
>>334397681
It would have been better if mad phantoms appeared as white instead of purple so it was a risk to summon allys. High covenant level mad phantoms appeared as gold.
Would of been GOAT.
>anytime you invade you're guaranteed 2blue phantoms and the host can summon 3 additional
>invasions give fucking nothing in regards to souls so you can't purchase supplies like weapon buffs or hunter talismans to make it fair
Jesus christ this is getting old; I can hold my own in 3v1's but the 4-6v1's are getting ridiculous when all it takes is a single hit to stunlock you.
>>334400892
lmao your tears are delicious m8
>>334401259
PvP hasn't changed. This is just your first time playing these games with this many people in your bracket.
>>334400892
Fellow invader here,
Please man the fuck up and stop bitching. If you cant win a straight fight then use the enviroment instead of running to /v/ and whining about how the big bad world masters bullied you
>Want to Blue Sentinel
>No one uses the Way of the Blue past the undead settlement
>No one does low level invasions
>Hardly any invasions to begin with due to phantom gank squads
>one summon in maybe two hours of playtime during peak hours
Sheeeeit
>haven't summoned anyone for shit
>get invaded
>have pretty epic 1v1
Y'all just mad. And, that was in the swamp.
>>334401513
I get a summoned every 5 minutes or so but...
>Zone in at invader spawns
>Get swarmed by enemies
I liked it better in DS2 where blues were immune to enemies.
>>334397681
lmao cucked
Am I the only one that liked the unpredictable element of an invader while trying to progress? I never used summons myself.
>>334398119
>le host dindu nothin
How did this meme start? You don't have a right to not be invaded if you play the damn game.
>>334401513
I invaded a guy in the daemon ruins who was using it. Got my first forked pale tongue from it. It was fucking great because the host ignored me expecting his two phantoms and the blue fag to kill me. He freaked out and ran to a bonfire when I killed all three. Killed him right as another sunbro was coming in.
>>334401513
>No one uses the Way of the Blue past the undead settlement
Bullshit. Everyone has that if they're summoning phantoms because it instantly spawns 2 blues to fuck up any invader; There's just a million people using blue sentinel.
>>334401513
Try being a wolf bro. I've been summoned exactly once since I joined. 7 hours of play time.
>>334397681
That's just fucked. Not that things like that can happen but the fact that you all fucked that poor guy over like animals out for blood.
>>334401385
It actually has changed. Previous games in the series didn't prioritize invading into groups.
You're right though, some of these problems won't be as bad once the initial rush ends.
>>334401461
>If you cant win a straight fight
Lol, there's no straight fights to be had when the developers literally cut off a chunk of my healthbar out of spite. Just because you clearly don't give a flying fuck about game balance doesn't mean everyone shouldn't.
>>334401524
>Swamp
Was it a watchdog? The guard phantoms are pretty fun to fight, but compared to the bell tower in DaS2 it's somewhat lackluster
Both the towers were claustrophobic as fuck and had ample close quarters combat. In comparison the swamp is huge and full of shit, I dont know how anyone can find their way around much less find the host unless they get summoned right next to them.
>>334397681
Why do all you fucking retards not understand the difference between PVP and PK? Kill yourself. PvP or dueling is a 1 v 1 with respected guidelines set by the fan base. PK is literally just jumping in and trying to kill someone, if they have friends with them then you dun goofed faggot. It is like none of you have played old MMOs. Like you aren't PC gamers or something.
>>334401524
you can set full invasion exposure in the options to have great 1v1s, it used to be an item that had to be equipped
i love it when crybaby invaders get their shit smashed in by a host and his friends just trying to play the game
its even more tasty when the same faggots cry about getting their asshole widened. if you dont like it, dont invade
>>334401335
That's cool, m80. Shit's nutritious.
Just know that I've enjoyed every bit of your PvE player tears up until this game.
I have been invaded 10 times in 10 hours of play. That is more than any souls game I have played. None of the instances involved me having an ally, people need to stop making shit up.
>>334402016
The problem is though that your PK target is randomly chosen and most of the time it's a group of faggots. It would be one thing if you could only choose single players yourself.
>>334402016
>respected guidelines set by the fan base
>>334402185
You don't get to do that in other games, you have to scout the target, if they have friends you run. Same here, if they have friends leave their game. Stop. Whining.
>>334402016
>It is like none of you have played old MMOs.
It's like none of you have played previous Dark Souls installments. PvP wasn't this fucky in the other games. People complained, and we got nerfed - hard.
>>334402016
People aren't mad that it's 3v1 they're mad its potentially 6v1 and the new weapon upgrade bullshit means they can't be gearedfor that.
>>334397681
WAHHHHH IT'S TOO HARD TO RUIN PEOPLE'S PROGRESS NOWWWWW WAHHHHH
>>334397681
git gud
>>334401978
>Balance
>In a souls game
Kek
When I invade and it's 4 people together I just turn on invulnerability via cheat engine and kill them. I bet they get soooo made when that happens but fuck em that's what they get for doing coop faggotry.
>Get summoned to another world as a grape
>Can see another grape sign in their world
C-can I summon other grapes as a grape?
>>334402571
Only if you want to get graped, anon.
>>334400892
git gud, crying invader-chan.
>>334402006
Might've been. I don't know.
It couldn't have been better timing, as the invadee, I had just cleared some trash on a plot of land in the swamp. And, he did spawn pretty close to where I was already.
>>334401513
I still have Way of Blue on because theres no reason to run anything else from where I'm at right now.
Can anyone explain why can't I summon more than one Phantom for Abyss Walkers boss?
Or that fucking entire location - I cannot summon more than one guy.
What's the problem?!
How exactly do covenants work in this one? Someone told me that you can swap covenants on the fly, does that mean you're not swearing an exclusionary oath like is DaS and can just equip the emblem of whichever covenant you want to roll with at any given time?
>>334400892
git
u
d
>Try pvp.
>Guy swings UGS at me.
>Roll back
>Can clearly see it hit the ground infront of me
>Take damage
>This isn't lag it keeps happening in every match.
I can finally see what the whole 'shock waves' thing is a meme
>>334402687
>cry for 3 separate games about invasions being too hard for your delicate sensibilities
>never, ever actually git gud
>developers finally cave and nerf them into the ground for the next installment
>gloat and tell invaders to "git gud"
they should really have negatives for changing covenants. as it is now people just switch all the time for whatever offers the most benefit theres no sense of belonging.
How is it fair for you to invade them? Why should only you have an advantage?
>>334400892
When everyone's beaten the game and are playing through NG+ or just playing through it again on a fresh character, there will be less summons. I myself soloed the entire game and got invaded plenty of times and had fun 1v1s.
>>334402918
I had this problem with Aldrith I saw people even with 3 phantoms on watchers
>>334403046
>implying those are the same people complaining about invasions being hard
only thing thats certain is you always bein a bitch.
>play Demons Souls a few weeks after it came out
>get invaded for the 1st time in 4-1 or whatever it was
>o shit wtf is this
>invader uses some sort of spell which IMMEDIATELY 1hit BREAKS ALL of my equipment
>all of my fucking equipment
>have to spend hours grinding with shit weapons to afford enough souls to repair it all
>realise that fag wasted hours of my time and I had no way to prevent it without reading guides and shit
>always play offline from that point onwards
Feels fucking great not having to deal with minmaxing faggots who've read every single guide on the internet. Also don't have the fcking spoiler-ass bloodmessages and ghost baby mode easy spoiler mode. Also don't have summon faggots that turn the game into babby mode.
single player blind run with no guides/prior knowledge of the game is the BEST experience. you can always go online after ur first playthrough. anyone that disagrees is a fucking stupid cunt who enjoys cheating
>>334403046
what's worse is these retards can just NOT use a goddamn ember and then pop one when they get to a fucking boss to summon help
After 3 games they still don't realize that there are certain invasion points in each map.
>>334403295
Well, what the fug do I do?
There should be a summon cap of 1 or 2
>>334402307
>>334402327
I have had more people invade my solo game in DS 3 than I have in any souls game. You people are literally just being little bitches. I think the invader should be at a disadvantage, that is the whole point. You join someone elses game without any prior knowledge of what you are getting yourself in to, if it looks like too much for your terrible ass, disconnect.
>>334397681
Watchdogs are bunch of fucking faggots
>>334403391
>summoning for help
what are u? fucking 12?
>>334403401
you can parry watchers
allowing online play before NG+ was a mistake.
>>334403493
we da real mvp
fuck off the big dogs small guy
>>334403308
I think that is probably one of the worst things in video games: guides.
>>334403435
>should be at a disadvantage
That's what the 3people who are better or equally geared as you is, you mongoloid. They don't need 6 people if it takes a dozen hits to kill them and only one hit to stunlock you into death; 2blue sentinels instantly join any fight but another red phantom seldomly does. There's no covenant that "aids a red phantom in need"
>>334402372
>>334402423
>>334403025
>>334403301
In your heart, you know we're right.
You know you're too bad at video games to actually have a level playing field in pvp.
You know you're too bad at video games to beat any of the content without help.
That's why you're lashing out. The truth cheapens your experience. Sorry to break it to you, anons.
>>334400429
Haha, that reminds me of this one invader in Anor Londo in DS1 that camped at that infamous 2archers1bridge spot. He stood behind the pillar and spammed wrath of god (goes through walls remember) whenever I attempted to go closer, IN ADDITION to those fucking archers. Now that's ridiculous, there's pretty much no way to win unless you bait ALL his casts without getting nailed by the archers, and then somehow manage to 1v1 him while they're firing at you. A single hit at any time means you fall down and die.
Invaders usually aren't interested in duels anyway. That's what the duel signs are for.
>>334403391
It is funny to see how triggered you faggots are that it is harder to pick on people minding their own business now. I never invaded cus it was cancer imo, but I sure relished my perfect defending record, watching you pussies try to run up on me and lure me to mobs, then shitting on you. I have never once met an invader that was good at the game, people who are good duel.
>>334403308
>using game features is cheating
You wot m8? I'm more than halfway through without summoning but i admit that some parts are very frustrating and i wouldnt argue against people who just want to summon something. It's their experience and online interaction should be a part of it.
What's the most active (fastest summons/invades) covenant/area at around level 75?
>>334401513
>Join Wolf covenant
>Get summoned every 10 seconds for invasions on day one
>Have a fucking great time
>Come back to play 2 days later
>Be in Wolf Covenant for 8 hours with not a single invasion
What the fuck happened
>>334403308
Fun times.
>>334403656
I have been in blue sentinel nearly my whole play through and have yet to be summoned. You faggots don't seem to realize that most of these guys with 6 fucking summons aren't doing it to deal with you, they are doing it to play Co op. You invading faggots aren't the center of the goddamn universe.
>>334400019
I've come to talk with you again,
>>334403871
everyone leveled up
>>334403761
It'sTry to stay between SL 30 and 50 and don't use a weapon past +5. At least until the game's been out for long enough that people make characters for high level PVP.
>>334403554
No, I need to know how to fix this bug. I tried relaunching but I can't summon more than one guy. It's frustrating.
>Invasions
>Designed to be a fair and balanced 1v1 fight
Pick one and only one. Sometimes you destroy some poor scrub by overgearing and hiding behind enemies, sometimes you get to be the star of Poor Little Red Spirit 7 because you couldn't black separation crystal yourself out fast enough.
>>334403672
>shitter who can't handle the heat claiming I'm the casual
G
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G
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>>334403729
You cannot ensure what kind of help you'll get through. Some summons just straight up run ahead and clear the area for you when you havent even been there yet, and any boss fights with even just 1 summon is IMMEDIATELY babby mode. Cuts the difficulty down incredibly. Why would you do that to yourself and not just git gud and overcome the odds by being a badass? Let me guess, you use the invincible tanooki suit on mario 3D land too
>>334403943
I did too. I leveled from 20 to 45. Did I overlevel? Am I underleveled? What happened?
>>334400892
Meh im in the Farron faction and I just team up with 2 others to gank people.
So this is what I've learned.
>You are allowed 2 phantoms and one invader.
>Each of these slots is increased by 1 when you use the knuckle
>When you summon someone from the RSS, it counts as a phantom rather than an invader.
>My face when I just had 5 red phantoms chasing me around the map
>>334403675
>minding their own business now
lol you and everyone else who plays this game knows about invasions
you knew when you decided to play this game
either disconnect your internet from the game or dont use a fucking ember
If people don't like being invaded why do they play online?
>>334400875
I was invaded by a mound maker while a red, and a giant crab, was on me. He helped kill the invader and the crab, then waited for to heal up, before bowing. Pretty broish. He lost, but I honestly hope that doesn't make him regret letting me get ready for him.
>>334404078
lol you and everyone else who plays this game knows about co op phantoms.
you knew when you decided to play this game
either stop invading or get fucking good
>>334404061
>You are allowed 2 phantoms and one invader.
No, I got invaded by 2 reds when I was without phantoms
>>334404216
Because they are so terrible that they need help on every boss.
>>334404042
Let the person decide what they want. some people always want co-op and others only want help when they desperately need it. I don't see how using the games features are in any way not representative of the game They know they beat the boss or the area but they also know it wasn't done alone.
>>334404216
we're deep into the age of entitlement, thats why
>>334401513
>>334401513
I've been summoned like 6 times as a Blue sentinel, and lemme tell you I learned the hard way how biased I can be
>Summoned in Undead Settlement
>see a warrior of the sunlight
>he waves, oh cool a friendly, looks more orange than yellow
>forget to notice the good phantoms list on the left side
>we meet the host and his two buddies
>wait a minute
>orange bro backstabs one phantom, other two on defensive
>orange manages to parry second phantom because host runs to bonfire like wussy to summon
>i assume he accidentally summons mad spirit while I 1v1 orange bro
>invade orange runs for the host as grape arrives on the scene
>i'm an idiot and try to attack grape as he comes out, he tries to roll away from me but no attack
>new white phantom summoned
>skittles battled for like a good 15 seconds, mad phantom accidentally rolls off cliff avoiding me.
>host and his boy killed the orange invader, my deed is done as i fade away
>realize i'm racist to grapes when in the line of fire
>>334404061
man one summon i had as blue sentinel started with 1 red phantom then went to 2 and kept getting more in as someone died. it was like 4 or 5 proof of concord kept in one summon.
>>334404369
Only possible you if you used the knuckle. You are mistaken
>>334403308
Oh hi DSP, I didn't know you were still active here.
>>334404042
>Let me guess, you use the invincible tanooki suit on mario 3D land too
b-b-but, anon, it's part of the newest Mario game and a feature! T-that means it's fair and you shouldn't make fun of others for using the game's mechanics!
>>334403957
Goddamn I thought so, should have pvped as I went along instead of just rushing through the game. I guess I'll hold off from any story progress for a few days and just stay around Anor Londo.
>>334401698
No, it was a cool element of danger. I always had that "oh fug" feeling of thrill and fear when the xXxGwyndodickxXx has invaded popped up.
>>334403890
Yeah, and they have invasion priority which is why everyones angry you fucking idiot.
You don't get solos 99% of the time unless you're under or overleveled for an area.
What is the obsession with invading, just duel if you're looking for someone you want a fair fight with jesus christ
Going between WolfBro and Mound-Maker, I am more than satisfied with PvP
Being a Mound-Maker can be really hard when I wanna be helpful instead. Host are always on edge but that's part of the fun, I just like to help out till the boss door then see if they're ready. I have yet to see a host get invaded while being summoned as a Mound-Maker. Is that intentional?How long does it take to rank up in a Covenant? I want my Poise Ring damnit.
>>334400892
>twink the fuck out of my lvl 1 char
>invade some first timer pleb
>rek his ass
GIT GUD LOLOLOLOLOLOL
>DASIII prevents that
>invaders are the ones getting rekt now
>FROM SUCKS, OMG GIT GUD YOU FAGGOTS! STOP FUCKING ME UP!!!!!! QQQQQQQQQQQ
You can't make this up.
>>334404703
Get more people to invade with you if you can't handle the amount of people you are going up against.
>>334400019
>member of the Way of Blue
>invades and complains about ganks
>wew
>>334400892
>Pencil dick invader mad me cna't compensate by ganking in video games
Loving every laugh
>>334404674
Even staying at those SL's don't make Watchdogs and Sentinels work, unfortunately.
The Forest Covenant worked fine in Dark Souls 1 I don't see how they broke it so fucking badly in the third game.
>>334404745
Mound lord here, put down red signs. Most hosts cant tell the difference, it makes immune to enemies and you can wait for the inevitable red to roll in
>>334404216
>If people don't like being invaded
You mistaken something
It's invaders who complain now
>>334404742
kids like to grief in games
>>334404882
>im only pretending to be retarded
(you)
>>334397681
>fair
Are you a baby? It's kill or be killed.
>>334404805
>Every invader is a twink
>ITT a bunch of entitled faggots think they should get fair fights when they force their way into others games.
>Completely missing the point of PK.
If you want something to be fair you play where there are rules, if you invade you are choosing the wild west morons.
>>334400892
>calls other people carebears
>is actually a carebear himself
you should probably get gud, if you can't fight more than one person you are probably shit
Are there good areas for invading in the late game? I feel like it'll be impossible to top the crab area and Farrons Keep. Both provide so much variety and fun with the variety of enemies and somewhat nonlinear nature. I've stopped levelling at 41 just so I can keep going back and invading there with +3 weapons. Just beat the demon ruins and got go boreal valley, already bullied the deacons for context.
>invade
>host have 2 phantoms
>ok i will set a trap here near tough mobs
>another red phantom invaded
>beacon to him to wait for them
>run straight to host and his fags
>die
And then you go to 4chan and cry like a bitch. If
you want fight someone you can place a sighn and fight with rest pvpfags. If you want to be a dick you use red orb and use all dirty tricks. But you are butthurt cuz you cant pwn noobs with op weapons twinks anymore
>>334404927
I said that because of all the people in this thread that are glad that invaders have an even harder time now.
>balancing gameplay around players who FUCKING SUCK
Franchise is kill, Its time to move on
>>334405209
>people love game mechanic
>HOW DARE THEY PLAY ONLINE IF THEY DON;T WANT TO GIVE INVADERS EVEN MORE ADVANTAGE
>>334404742
I can explain it for you, anon. Duels in one specific area get boring after a while. It's like playing a fighting game with only one map - and that map would be the Iron Keep bridge. Invasions open up the entire game world as a huge, dynamic battleground. Now that organic PVP is more tilted in favor of ganksquads than any previous game, that's why these threads are popping up.
>>334404805
>third installment of a beloved franchise nerfs one of the core pvp mechanics
>long-time fans justifiably upset
>WOW JUST GIT GUD LOL BRB GOTA SUMMON MY 4 FRANDS
You're right, anon. You really can't make this up.
>>334405012
I wish.
>Invade
>See host with 2 sunbros
>Waste one sunbro
>Waste another sunbro
>Push host off of a cliff
I don't get the problem. More players means more souls.
share gank spanks, those are more fun
>>334405325
I might be retarded but I don't think what you just said made any sense even in a sarcastic kind of way.
>invaders crying about it being unfair
This is what happens when nearly all invasions in the earlier games were faggots using endgame gear to one-shot new characters in the starter areas.
You reap what you sow.
>>334401978
>Balance
>in souls PvP
fucking kek lad
<-2015
>Lol stop complaining about invaders ganking you with mobs and git gud.
>Play offline faggot, can't beat invaders and mobs?
2016->
>Can't even invade people without them having help anymore!
>Why do people who invade other peoples games have to be at a disadvantage, this isn't FAIR!
>>334405412
It's a big problem when you suck at the game like OP does.
>>334397681
So was that you in the webm getting fucked in the ass by 4 dudes?
>>334405412
do the same and see the host run away and pull the plug
>>334405591
You don't get the souls but you still fuckin won.
>>334401102
If a host summons a maker it takes up a friendly slot
He had 3 friends, the max you can get
Thus the maker is unmade
>>334405591
Red phantoms have legit plug tho.
>>334405078
>you should probably get gud, if you can't fight more than one person you are probably shit
You're just conveniently ignoring that they cut off a chunk of my health in every invasion this game. I still win 1v3's sometimes, but it's almost comical how much they've handicapped invaders. It's like putting a 70% health handicap on yourself in a fighting game like Soul Caliber, then going against 4 different fighters at the same time.
Actually that sounds pretty fucking hardcore. At least it's satisfying when you pull it off.
>Pick hardest area in the game
>Invade
Easy peasy. Even if you don't win you just made their shit that much harder.
Holy fuck, I haven't died to almost all the bosses, and when I did I fixed my mistakes next time, but Dancer has literally and figuratively dicked me.
I went through like 12 embers trying this shit. Something about her fight just felt impossible to me.
>>334400892
LOL Y U MAD THO?!
>>334404805
>I need not only one but TWO possibly THREE summons to hold my hand through the game because I cannot possibly play through the PvE by myself, especially not fight one of those super scary invader guys
Who's the real shitter here?
>>334405328
>Now that organic PVP is more tilted in favor of ganksquads than any previous game, that's why these threads are popping up.
>Lemme call it something other than invasion so it sounds nice.
Kill yourself, you invading faggots aren't looking for Duels/PvP, you want to PK. You want to hide in mobs and gank. You are just mad now cus these guys you used to gank with mobs now gank your ass with People.
>>334397681
Most hosts with ganksquads i have seen where weaboo katfags with nicknames like "Yukiko" or "Akagi". Coincidence?
>>334405504
>This is what happens when nearly all invasions in the earlier games were faggots using endgame gear
Fuck off, kid
Go hide back behind phantms or something
>>334405550
>>Lol stop complaining about invaders ganking you with mobs and git gud.
All you have to do is not go near the enemies.
>>Play offline faggot, can't beat invaders and mobs?
This is a legitimate solution if you can't handle invaders.
>>Can't even invade people without them having help anymore!
By the 3rd (technically 5th) game in the series they shouldn't need help and people with help shouldn't be prioritized for invasions.
>>Why do people who invade other peoples games have to be at a disadvantage, this isn't FAIR!
Invaders have always been at a disadvantage, the only advantage an invader has is the element of surprise, and sometimes they don't even have that.
>>334397681
Holy mother of kek. I'm Alcrom. The grapefaggot was summoned by the host for co-op, everyone waved to the guy, pointed at the enemies, and we started killing. Then purplefag backstabbed the host while we were fighting monsters trying to be a fag and kill him, so we started to fight him. Host healed up then joined in on the rapefest.
Its what shitty griefers deserve.
>>334405926
Please be true.
>>334401513
I just want them to fix blues and darkmoons, the queue system for it seems bugged.
>>334405907
>All you have to do is not go near the enemies.
Are you being retarded on purpose? What do you want the person to do if the invader just sits in mobs?
What the fuck is this? And how do I fix it?
>Go to Anor Londo
>Pop ember
>SCREEN FLASHES RED WITH ONE MILLION RSS SIGNS
I've found their birthing chambers
>>334406130
i dont know but its happened to me like 4 or 5 times now when i've done pvp.
its really fucking annoying.
>>334404495
I have been invaded by two Aldrich cucks in Anor Londo.
I hadn't even bought the fucking knuckle thing.
>>334397681
that's a gangrape not an invasion
>>334406253
Havent messed around with forest covenant style areas so I cant comment on that
>>334405827
LOL IDK xDD!!11
>>334405838
You really are incapable of nuance, aren't you? Look, you're clearly not into PVP, but try to at least see the other point of view. I enjoy GETTING invaded randomly through-out the game too. It's not just about griefing, sugartits.
>>334404495
Special covenants like aldrich and farron don't count towards your invader, you can have 2 specials and 1 red even without the dried finger.
>>334406173
I got 6 invaders in less than 30 minutes in the sleeping giants and roof sniper area. I cucked them all but it just goes to show how fucking pathetic invaders are.
The whole weapon upgrade really pisses me off.
Why does it have to be tied to summoning/invasion?
When I first decided to play as a sentinel I never got summoned - ever.
>>334405926
I can understand suddenly betraying the host as a purple. After all, their duty is fulfilled by killing someone, which the host should know. If they help you with mobs, you should really just assume they are waiting for a good chance to murder you. Still, attacking when it's almost certain you'll get your shit pushed in is retarded.
>>334406130
It's happened to me a couple of times too. They need to fix that shit ASAP.
>>334403039
>rolling back
>ever
found the newfag
>>334404887
I don't see where he complained about being ganked.
Wew right back at you, retard.
>>334397681
Dear salty invaders, can you show me on this undead where the big bad world master touched you?
>>334406128
Wait for him to leave? Use a bow/magic and either shoot him or pull out one of the enemies? You make it seem like an invader sitting in a group of enemies is actually sitting in a big steel dome that shoots you with cannons if you get to close, people really exaggerate how difficult Invader+Enemies is since if the invader needs enemies he's probably shit.
>>334406130
Also if this happens while you're the phantom, you can't pass through the fog door before a boss fight.
I don't get the problem. As an invader you have all the mobs in the area on your side. It's only fair that there's a higher chance you invade players who already have friends in their game.
>>334406345
I don't care if people invade me, It has happened many times thus far. But guess what, they all tried to lure me into bad situations. Sleeping giants with fire sniping mages. Great bow faggots on the roof top run. Cunts hiding near the goat giants in the swamp. Hugging awkward cliffs. Invaders have 0 honor and should have the favor returned.
>invader shit lord always telling people to "git gud" to deal with them invading them
>faced with the fact that they are indeed shit now that the odds are even
>sperg out and cry in their diapers when they are told to "git gud"
Oh the irony. Invaders are literally the worst type of people. This shit is too good
>>334406452
It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't fucking within 1 point of you. Apparently if you have a +3 weapon, it doesn't matter what kind of weapon, you can really only invade people with +2 or +4 weapons.
Regardless of if you use a +1 Broken Sword and they have an unupgraded Fume Greatsword.
>>334406702
>Odds are even
They are far from even, invasions have always been in the hosts favor and thats kinda the point. I agree that the bads need to stop whining but calling it even is a farce
>>334406649
>>334406818
>literally every mob in the zone is on the invader's side
Yeah okay dumbass kek
>>334406601
>Wait for him to leave?
What a fun game.
>Use a bow/magic and either shoot him or pull out one of the enemies?
I think you miss the point of them hiding behind difficult enemies. If he hides behind a giant, and you pull it, you just did the work for him. it then goes on to do insane attacks with high damage while he attempts to stun lock you with fast weapons. Please stop being retarded.
>>334397681
You cat like an asshole and you get treated like one.
does anyone know why mobs would attack you as an invading phantom? i was in the wolf covenant for a while and it was mostly fine but one time the crabs and crazy cross people were actually targeting me. not just like collateral but actually chasing me.
70% of people complaining are invader twinks
>>334406847
Right, so because someone *can* get that item, it means everyone you will invade has it?
>MUHHHH HONORABRU DUELLUUUUUUUUUUU
>>334406901
git gud faggot
because of retards like you, who can't into pvp< invasions in das3 ruined forever
>>334406847
Surefire way to get me to black crystal, only tryhards use these
>>334406875
>Host has access to infinite phantoms
>Host has twice the heals of any invader.
>Most zones have a short cut that will give you 20 seconds of running and you're at the boss door.
>Invader health is gimped unless he's summoned with a RSS while he has embers consumed.
>Dont even get me started on giant tree seeds
>Red phantoms can use the environment to help them, which is situation based on the zone he's invading in.
yeah man. Even.
>>334406650
>Invaders have 0 honor and should have the favor returned.
No doubt, I know I usually gave them a chance to finish off whatever mob they were fighting, but I'm probably the minority.
I'm fine with getting fucking wrecked when I invade people, I just don't like how now the game mechanics are deliberately trying to fuck me over. A little more of a disadvantage is fine, maybe even warranted, but the shortened healthbar is just silly desu senpai.
>>334406702
>now that the odds are even
You can't really believe this, right? You know I'm invading you with less than max health, and you can have more allied phantoms than ever before.
People are mistaking my legitimate grievances for unwarranted butthurt. They rigged this shit too far in the opposite direction, anon-chan.
>>334407016
There's an item the host can use that causes enemies to target invaders.
>>334407106
If you aren't spanking 2v1s all day you suck, 3v1s are very doable as well.
>>334407106
>WAAAAHHHHH I CANT GRIEF SUPER EASILY. ITS HARDER TO RUIN SOMEONE'S EXPERIENCE AND TROLL THEM!!!!
This is you. :/
>>334397681
It's like breaking into someone's house and complaining when they shoot you.
>>334400875
I was invaded by a red after summoning a mound maker.
Then another red invaded and they killed me.
>>334407210
>>334407218
Thats never the point I made, it's still plenty do able and I enjoy my invasions. But that Anon claimed its an equal fight and it simply isn't. Nor has it ever been in any Souls game
>>334407106
>any invader
I think you can twink estus flasks. That's a pretty big advantage when you have 10 +5 estus against a host that has 3 standard ones.
>>334407093
>git gud faggot
because of retards like you, who can't into pvp< invasions in das3 ruined forever
Are you retarded, where did I say I lost these fights? I am saying that they should get shit on for being ass hats. if a guy with his bare hands beats the shit out of a guy who pulled a gun, it doesn't mean the guy who pulled the gun is any less of a faggot piece of shit.
Can red phantoms summon purple phantoms?
Because if not, I don't know whats the point of purple covenant.
Keep the salt coming, I am enjoying the collective red asshurt.
Orange and Purple bros, you're alright though.
>>334407334
PvP in Souls games has never been an equal fight. Literally never.
But now that the tables have tilted slightly in favor of the host, griefbabbies are losing their shit, because they can't GiantDad new players to the game anymore.
>>334405926
Except that's wrong.
You can't summon 4 soapstone's worth of people.
>>334406901
>What a fun game.
Then don't play online.
>I think you miss the point of them hiding behind difficult enemies. If he hides behind a giant, and you pull it, you just did the work for him. it then goes on to do insane attacks with high damage while he attempts to stun lock you with fast weapons. Please stop being retarded.
I think you don't understand why invaders hide in the first place, unless they're playing against someone who literally has no idea what the fuck they're doing, they have zero advantages besides the enemies, and even then there's a fucking item for the sole purpose of going "fuck you" in the form of the giant tree seed.
Invaders have no fucking advantages, if you have a problem with them don't play online.
>but I need muh help with bosses
Stop being shit.
>>334407347
> twink estus flasks.
There you go faggots, stop fucking crying and start twinking. Enjoy your advantageous invasions.
Got my 30 pale tongues from low level invasions in the high wall. Best place for it since most of the players are dumb as shit and don't understand that their attacks can be parried.
>>334397681
my issue is that if someone has an ultra greatsword and you dont have a long stab for them then they win thanks to god awful netcode
>>334407462
Well, I appreciate you agreeing with me Anon
>>334407361
To summon into gank squads in an area with infrequent invasions
>>334400892
Holy shit, get triggered more bitch.
>>334407623
UGS arent the problem. No pose is the problem. If the enemy has a rapier, gg its over.
>invaded in belfry sun by bellbro in 2
>nobody else coming, we have a fair, enjoyable 1 on 1
>during it, someone upboats a message I left and that gives me the upper hand
>mfw
>>334407462
It's always been in favor of the host.
>Invade to get some tongues so I can respec
>Archdragon Peak
>Guy with a single phantom
>Phantom is stuck in t-pose, floating all over the place
>Kill them after a little bit
>Host bolts down the hallway
>Wait a bit
>Same phantom I just killed gets resummoned
>Bait them over to one of the big axe snakes
>It fucks the phantom up and I finish her with a crossbow bolt
>Run down the hallway to find the host
>He's hiding near the bonfire
>Fat rolling all over the place attempting to hit me
>Charge my weapon art on my Fume Ultra Greatsword
>One shot him
People with phantoms are always retards.
My ds3 and steam keep crashing whenever i even touch a summoning sign. help me please
>>334407862
Git gud
>>334407470
>>but I need muh help with bosses
>Stop being shit.
Why are you building strawmen in the middle of your response. At least do it when you aren't conversing with someone specific. Invaders do have advantages, shit I have had multiple invasions appear without a fucking warning in this game. They also shouldn't NEED the mobs help, they should get fucking good. But because every faggot used mobs now they have to deal with the other person having a chance to even the odds. Giant tree seed isn't given to you in the same way red orbs are, it isn't some thing the game gives you to help with invaders, but the game gives invaders and item to invade you. So the game gives everyone a chance to summon help when someone wants to invade you. If you walk into a bar and pick a fight with me, then tell the other guys in the bar you will pay them to help you, am I a fucking pussy for calling my friend in the bathroom to come help me? Gtfo out faggot you just sound retarded.
>that guy in the group who tells you (not asks you) to take off an item of clothing thats the same as one hes wearing
Good, I fucking hate invaders, they should all get wreck like that it's what they deserve for shitting up other people games.
>>334407752
No it hasn't. Literally ever. It's always been in favor of the invader, because he has all the NPC mobs on his side.
>>334401268
Isn't there a ring that shows you and your sign as white?
>>334397681
>yet another souls game
>>334407862
Do you have an Nvidia card?
So are those guys with the big mass of black flailing fuckery on their backs designed for you to ignore them?
>>334407237
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin_%28farmer%29
>>334407106
>Red phantoms can use the environment to help them, which is situation based on the zone he's invading in.
Spot on, I can't tell you how many times I've invaded into a group of 4 just camping out by the bonfire or fog door.
I'm going to need more arrows.
>>334407462
>slightly
kek
>>334407717
Carebears have consistently ruined PVP in every MMO or multiplayer RPG in the last decade. I saw world pvp decline in World of Warcraft, and now I'm getting to watch it get nerfed in Dark Souls. No franchise is safe. Any organic pvp outside of a duel box is just griefing to these people.
>>334408008
This is my favorite line of reasoning right here
>I WANT ALL THE PERKS OF ONLINE PLAY WITH NONE OF THE DOWN SIDES!!
>>334408085
Yes. The wierdest thing is, that it also happends in SOTFS
>>334406130
QUALITY FROMSOFT NETCODE
>PvP is unfun for invaders because out numbered most of the time
>PvP is unfun for hosts/friendlies because the invader has to run around looking for mob help
Great system
>>334408217
Well of course I do, I paid for the game and I want to have fun. That's like serving shit food in a restaurant and telling customers they're entitled for complaining.
>>334408160
Loving this salt.
Get good.
>>334408224
I've had sporadic crashes as well GTX760.
Lowering resolution to 1600x900 seemed to lessen the amount of crashes for me.
First I tried updating to the new driver, but that just made everything worse. So if you've tried the game-ready driver, I suggest you try and rollback to an earlier verison.
>>334405828
Then they wouldn't even be in ember form.
>>334408369
And I'm enjoying all the (You)s with no arguments whatsoever to back them up.
I've only been invaded twice, never summoned a phantom. The first one was in crab swamp forest place, the laggiest fuck I ever saw destroyed me spamming with a rapier.
The second was two fuckers who got me right after Pontiff Swingsalot. There was no lag there, I put up my best fight but 2v1 is pretty grim.
It's anecdotal, but it definitely supports the idea that summoning effects invasions. like 30 hours in btw.
I think they were purple, but they looked more like blues with a red outline than purple. I don't know what the fuck is going on covenantwise.
>>334408530
Argument is simple, you stop being a shitter and deal with the fact that you're invading into someone's world.
>>334408408
I only crash when I try to summon an online person tho.
>>334407969
>They also shouldn't NEED the mobs help, they should get fucking good.
The same way hosts shouldn't NEED help, but here we are.
>But because every faggot used mobs now they have to deal with the other person having a chance to even the odds
Just don't engage them if they sit in a sea of enemies. If you think that's really annoying then don't play online.
>Giant tree seed isn't given to you in the same way red orbs are, it isn't some thing the game gives you to help with invaders, but the game gives invaders and item to invade you
But you can still obtain and use it, so you really have no point here, the Red Orb doesn't give invaders an edge it allows them to invade the Seed however DOES give an advantage to the host.
>So the game gives everyone a chance to summon help when someone wants to invade you. If you walk into a bar and pick a fight with me, then tell the other guys in the bar you will pay them to help you, am I a fucking pussy for calling my friend in the bathroom to come help me?
You are when you have something that turns the fight into You+Friends vs Me vs Everyone else
>Gtfo out faggot you just sound retarded.
If I'm retarded then you're brain dead.
>>334408595
You got invaded by the dark souls 3 bellbros in both places, anon. They're black phantoms with a red glimmer
>>334408340
Invading people isn't "PvP". Invading people who are trying to clear the game is just griefing.
If you want to PvP, make a PvP character and actually find a place where people put down their red summon signs, and then fight each other, not hard.
