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What went horribly wrong
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>>334307850

>posting some rando's tweet

MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
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Who is this twitter person?
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>>334307850
Romance of the Three Kingdoms XIII isn't out yet.
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>second month
it was dead on its third week.
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>>334307850
Does he mean sales or something? Can we see that? I hear Capcom refuses to comment on them.
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People are playing the better game.
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>>334307850
Racing and fighting games are dying.
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>>334308645

Mortal Kombat XL?
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>>334307850
It's going to be a terrible EVO I tell you what.
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>>334307850
It was a Sony exclusive. Street Fighter isn't synonymous with PlayStation. It's like if Final Fantasy was an Xbox exclusive. Capcom is fucking retarded.
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With Street Fighter V being a piece of shit, this pretty much confirms they are going to release a multi-plat version of Super Street Fighter V.
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>muh 4000 evo entrants
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>no sagat for at least a whole year
they asked for this
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>but it will SELL MORE THAN SF4

yeah in 6 years BURN
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>>334309746
This.
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>>334308817
They made Mortal Kombat games after 3?
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Welp, guess it's time for Capcom to axe off another classic franchise again.
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SFV is fucked. I will be amazed if its still being played by Q1 2017.
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>>334311187
Sadly in their current state the only move they could do for extra cash is killing the home console department and focus on phone and 3DS.
Their next shareholder meeting will be a riot.
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>>334311145
apparently there's a mortal kombat 40
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>>334311457
Or put out nice costume sets.

But we know they won't because that would piss tourneyfags off.
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>>334307850
>Taking Shu at their word

Whew lad.
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>>334310685
OH SHIT SON

#SHREKT
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>>334309746
>>334309849
Its on steam you know?

Seriously pretty dumb of them to not release it on xbone though.
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>Meanwhile Six million people have played Killer Instinct
>" Microsoft is calling out Killer Instinct: Season 3 for its high engagement numbers; more than 6 million unique players make this March the best month ever for that franchise".

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2016/04/14/playstation-leads-hardware-and-software-in-march-npd-report.aspx
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>>334311616
Tourneyfags need to take their fgc shit and fuck off already, convincing Capcom to cater SFV for them almost exclusively is what caused the game to flop. The fgc is tiny and irrelevant and unable to support a AAA fighting game, and it's time those faggots finally got that through their skulls.

It's just a shame Street Fighter had to die a second time for it to happen.
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>>334307850
No Wii U version. It's like Capcom doesn't like money.
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What if Ono stopped listening to tourneyfags?
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MEANWHILE KI JUST KEEPS WINNING

>Even so, Microsoft is also hailing the success of The Division as one reason why global hours spent on the Xbox One are up 89 percent over last year. In addition, Microsoft is calling out Killer Instinct: Season 3 for its high engagement numbers; more than 6 million unique players make this March the best month ever for that franchise.

ITS NOT FAIR BROS, ALL THAT MONEY WENT INTO SFV, WHAT HAPPENED
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>>334312453
that would be a good thing, sf has degenerated up it's own asshole
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>>334312560
Killer Instinct is a good game with heart and love and deserves success

Street Fighter 5 is an empty middle finger
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>>334312560
Exhibit the Ribbit
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Is the actual game any good? Or is it just the sales that are tanking
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>>334311887
well is free to try, of course there will be downloads
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>>334312560
THESE CAMEOS ARE KILLING ME
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>>334312453

we would get a new VS. game
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>Pokken almost outsold SF V lifetime sales in it's first week as well

WHAT THE FUCK CAPCOM
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>>334312730
>Is the actual game any good
it's "meh". it's too complex to provide instant fun for casuals, and too shallow to keep tourneyfags interested.
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>>334312560
i genuinely dont understand how sony can start off so strong and keep incrementally fucking up
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>>334312973
I know right. It's so weird...
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>let's listen to the obvious vocal minority and disregard what the majority wants! that will surely increase our sales!
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i was pleasantly surprised by how good ki was
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>>334313175
Sakurai was right desu
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>>334311887
Did they mean to say six bazillion?
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>>334311616
Those fuckers cant even fix Ken's face, "nice" costumes would be inconsistent as fuck. The ones we got are already a mixed bag. Not like those have ever been a problem, tourney players dont care about them.
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>>334312730
Legitimately yes. The game is quite good, and probably the most balanced of any sf to date, even the worst character in the game is viable to some degree.

But everything surrounding the game is awful. When you're in there punching dudes online or next to a buddy it's fucken great. Then there's everything else; the at times ridiculous queues, the up to a minute of loading screens, the colors locked behind a bullshit mode, the ragequitters, the godawful lobby mode.

It's like a delicious chocolate truffle rapped in freshly shed leper skin.
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>>334313165
*fainted
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>/v/ in typical fashion, obviously bitter over the lack of hyper-casual things to invest them in a game while simultaneously screaming about how sales are the only thing that matter
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>bought Nitroplus Blasterz
>half the price for double the content + lewd waifu animations
>two singleplayer campaigns, arcade mode, and online
Good game, SFV.
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>>334313695
>the lack of hyper-casual things
how are options bad? Why not have fun things to do when friends come home?
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>>334309746
>>334310918
>>334311773
did you retards forget about microsofts backwards policies, including no cross platform play when sfv was announced/released?
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>>334313840
>Having friends
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>early access approach where game is released while most of the content is promised as updates
>16 fucking characters at launch
>looks absolutely horrible I swear to god, the shit in the background runs at like 10 fps on PS4, some maps are fucking atrocious and nobody uses them
>still $60 fucking dollars

Gee, I wonder. If they had released the game for like $20 it would've sold like hotcakes and nobody would've complained about the lack of content. But no, they had to fucking charge $60 for it and sell a fucking season pass for $30 which doesn't even include the fucking costumes that were unlocked a month later even though they were already in the game and used in the story mode. Not even nintendo is this anti consumer.
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>>334313719
>look up game
>there now exists a fightan game where Saber can face a Senran

What a magical world we live in
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>>334307850
in the 90´s Capcom was one of my favourite, now I just want them dead.
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In other news, Killer Instinct had 6 million+ unique players for March.
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I wish i could play the game but their servers are still fucking me and many others.
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>>334314238
>did you retards forget about microsofts backwards policies, including no cross platform play
apparently for good reasons you could cheat on pc by alt tabbing and freezing up the frames up the play station players.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzrvS80JaMs
it's still in the game but effects both players giving a slight advantage to the one who does it first.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBIt_D2nJ0c

Microsoft was kind of right about the cross play thing for SFV.
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>>334314238

It's obvious now that Capcom and Sony was talking out of their ass and it was PR now that Sony doesn't seem to want to play ball now that the Rocket League devs have it working. They need Sony's permission to make it cross play with the bone as Microsoft have made it platform policy and don't need to be asked compared to Sony's "Per game" basis (And have been waiting for weeks for "Legal" on Sony's side despite it working now internally).

Also that Microsft just dodged a massive fucking bullet and sticking to their own franchise got them over six million players while SF V was a colossal and costly flop for Sony and Capcom.
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>>334314353

This is the voice of millions of fans. I am one of them. Capcom, just sell your IPs and cash out, or at the very least get rid of Ono. He'll probably thank you as he won't be so overworked, and maybe SF can get some real gameplay that has been absent since 4.
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>>334313719

Too be fair its a really fun game
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>>334314238
being honest seeing how Microsoft was able to get it to work near flawlessly on k.i capcom should've just pandered to work with microsoft to eventually make it cross play.
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>>334312975
Do you always just make up shit on the spot when you post? How does it not keep tourneyfags interested?
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>>334311145

Yeah and they all sold better than your poke children's garbage
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>>334315490
how could he question the word of the great daigo-sama
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>>334314238
maybe if they went with MS they would have a competent system with an actual following
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>>334315490
>paid endorsement

lol
dont forget to stop being a noob and eat your gamer food
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>>334313719
>Waifu/lewdfag
Opinion discarded
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>>334307850
Capcom released a half-finished game following the release of Mortal Kombat X: a fighting game filled with content out the wazoo.
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>>334315490
daigo is a corporate pawn now
that whole lupe fiasco shit was shameful
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>>334315490
That paid PR. All those guys are sponsored by the game.
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>>334313323
It really is an anomaly that KI turned out as good as it did.

>launch title
>xbone exclusive
>started with minimal content and would gain more over time
>an old Rare IP being rebooted, the first two games are objectively mediocre
>developed by Double Helix and then moved onto Iron Galaxy
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>>334315960
Stay salty, cuckaroo.
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>>334311887
It's because it was heavily advertised and S1 was free to Gold. I mean I love KI but let's be serious here
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>listen to the FGC
>game ends up selling like complete shit despite it being pushed hard on the best selling console this gen

what a joke
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>>334316108
I dont have either game, doesnt change the fact you're a still a bitch ass nigga who thinks they're better for buying garbage.
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>>334313719
where did you get this picture of me
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>>334311887
>>334312560
Were there even six million Bones sold?
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SAKURAI WAS RIGHT
FGC/TOURNEYFAGS BTFO
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>>334316429
sf4 selling well was a fluke
it got the casual audience once, then they played it and were like "oh that's right I hate putting effort into things" and then promptly dropped it never to look back
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>>334316606
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It's ugly. Tourneys don't care but that grotesque anatomy isn't gonna sell to kids and casual gamers.
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>>334316606
Bone has outsold Wii U actually
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>>334313719
Are you literally me?
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>this thread
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it's 2016 and no one outside of japan really cares about 2D fighting games?
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So this is why ryu bailed to smash and why akuma bailed to tekken
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>yfw anime fighting games are all that's played anymore again just like the golden era of Turd Strike
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>>334309746

Capcom's got no money man, Sony's the only reason SFV got made.
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>>334317083
Isn't MH one of the top sellers on 3DS, what are they doing with that money? Obviously it isnt going into making MH better.
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>>334316769
That's not really saying much. I bet Trump's steaks sold more than the Wii U too.
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>>334316627
>a fluke

It really wasn't. There was a reason Capcom brought all the World Warriors back. It was the first SF game on "HD" consoles and there hadn't been a SF game in years.

Capcom just royally fucked this game over by releasing it in the state that it was. I'm never buying it for personal reasons, but Capcom botched this game hard. This game could have easily used another 6 months of development and polishing. Even when Combofiend assured everyone that the game would ve "way different" day one and it wasn't.
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WHeN cAN I fUCKing plAy as bearded FucKing RYU??????
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>>334317083
>Sony's the only reason SFV got made
sonys the only reason SFV got to launch earlier than 2018.
capcom says this themselves, you're severely misinformed.
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>>334308645
ded game
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>it's illegal to raise rent on your tenants

I thought America was anti socialist
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>>334317239
It's way easier to find a ranked match in Pokken than SFV
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>>334317187
>what are they doing with that money
phone games. They keep sinking any cent of benefits into phone games.
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>>334317187
They're using that money to barely keep the lights on.
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>>334312560
>KI
>Comfy as fuck
>Can be punished for button mashing
>If you git gud you don't have to sit through 5 minute combos
>Can tell the developers give a shit from the ground up
>Each character feels unique and flushed out from story to moves, not just "muh honour/I must FIGHT in the STREETS"
>Cross play and unlockables to give people a reason to keep playing

I don't know how to feel about the seasons, but $65 for all characters and retro outfits is alright, considering you get 8 characters and they aren't shotos rushed out every week
Jumped on the game when it came to W10
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>>334317187
I remember they spent alot of money on an R&D facility for mobile shit.
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>>334307850
No Single Player content. Most players are "dirty casuals".
It's doing well in competitive scene, gets constant tournaments and already got several shows, pushing out Tekken out of Korean TV scene.

They will release Street Fighter Vx or something with SP content and casuals will pick it up.
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>>334317236
Well from the looks of this game it could have used that two years. This game was an embarassment and all it accomplished was damaging the reputation of SF
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>>334317443
>and casuals will pick it up.
or not. Since the whole internet told them to fuck off. SFV has the worst, most closed fanbase ever. Even meleefags don't close doors in your face so hard when you begin.
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>>334317239
>Fights in friendly and ranked every 15 seconds
>"ded"

You haven't played it all have you?
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Maybe Nintendo will be charitable towards Ono and give him some money to make Nintendo vs Capcom
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>>334317293
what board's meme is this?
also rent = signing a contract = rules.
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>>334312560
Killer instinct is a diamond among the shit of xbone exclusives. I don't even remember the last time we had a thread about that console but goddamn is that game great.
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>>334317763
That'd probably be easier than another Marvel game from them. And sell like hotcakes.
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>>334317895
Xbone has a fucking good library
Its stupid to discard entire games just because of the Win10 fusion
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>>334317895
>>334318035
Nice try Phil.
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>>334317224
6 month they don't have. They need this game for Capcom Cup. And they can't reschedule it, because they have a contract with Sony.
Single Player stuff is coming this summer, we'll see what happens then. Summer is also pretty shit on releases, so they have a release windows.
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>>334317224
This. They really should've fleshed it out with a proper SP mode.
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>>334317236
>Sony's money saved two about two years worth of production time
>Product is still shit

I'd love to see what we would've got purely from Capcom's nobudget.
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>>334308818
USF4 will take back its throne next year.
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>>334318259
Summer = post E3 = they are praying God, Buddha and Hallah that someone doesn't announce a fighting game with any amount of casual hype.
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>>334317623
Sf always had "cool kids" audiences, they were always frat boys in Fighting Games University.
Right now there are less of them and they take everything personally, because their favourite game isn't doing as well as they hoped.
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>>334318492

Injustice 2 will likely be announced at E3 never mind their own hardcore audience wants to switch to KOF 14

Capcom's fucked.
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>>334318469
absolutely no one wants to play that piece of shit anymore
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>>334318492
Well, Tekken 7 FR will be out on arcades this summer. But Harada and Ono are fuckbuddies, so I guess we won't see Tekken 7 on consoles this year after all.
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>>334311187
Real shame. It's not even a bad game but people crying about MUH SINGLE PLAYER MODE were loud enough to give a shitty impression and drive people off. Well done, /v/.
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>>334318612
>never mind their own hardcore audience wants to switch to KOF 14
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>>334318696
It's a legit complaint. when you want to sell you must consider most people only want to fool around.If they wanted tourneys alone they they shouldn't invest so much in the game to begin with so they can profit with a million sale cause that's all they'd get.
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>>334318623
Marvel will never die.
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>>334318612
KoF is a dead franchise tbqh
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>>334318696
>real shame
>FGC playing something other street fighter
Was it a real shame when 3rd strike failed too? That game was ass.
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>>334318797
kof14 looks like a decent fighter. remember, tourneys don't give a shit about graphics. and at least kof is visually clear and easy to get.
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>release unfinished Early Access game missing big chunks of game content
>early release is "for the esports crowd"
>the esports crowd thinks the game is shit and go back to playing whatever the fuck tourneyfaggots play.
>since it's missing all the parts that made it popular with a casual crowd they don't buy it either

how could it gone wrong?!?
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>>334311896
What could they actually do to make it appeal to non-fighting game fans? The only thing it's "missing" that it doesn't already have is a story mode and you faggots are getting that anyway. It's not like SF4 had more than what SF5 has aside from the larger roster and it sold great. But faggots online whined about lack of irrelevant features and did it loudly which likely created a negative impression of the game which means people avoid it and now Street Fighter's dead again unless it manages to get a boost from Evo and then continue selling well.

But seriously, tell me what it needed to "appeal to non-FGC" people? Story mode? More waifus? More useless and overpriced costumes that Capcom can use to Jew you out of your shekels?
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>>334318938
This.

Like, everything wrong with SFV, every complaint is just going to be magnified 10 fold for KoFXIV.

I think all said and done, SFV will do decent. They're playing the long game.
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>>334318965
>"decent"
Decent my ass. Now where did you get that part about people wanting to switch to KoF14?
Your ass?
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>>334318973
I think Sony bullshits their devs into believing games will sell as good as the console itself. Without showing the actual demographic.
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>>334316321
Pretty much this
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>>334319113
Not him but Twitter. I doubt SFfags will cut it in the KoF community. A lot of people don't really like how SFV turned out.
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>>334319068
looking better and less "gritty but not really" would help. flashy story mode with anime movies. Stupid solo minigames like breaking cars and bricks. SF used to be a "fun" franchise in its past. Cosplay fighter, puzzle figther and the like. They should get back to treat it more lightly.
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>>334319082
People bitching about SFVs netcode will be in for a great surprise when they pick up KoF14.

SNK DEFINITELY didnt learn their lesson.

But I also fully expect SNK fanboys to make excuses, just like they are ignoring the grafics now after they were so smug about how KoF13 looked compared to the competition.
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>>334319082
EVERY complaint?
Like small roster?
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>>334319292
>Not him but Twitter
You're a fucking joker
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>>334319298
>SNK DEFINITELY didnt learn their lesson.
based on... your epic meymey picture?
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>>334318875
If anyone is playing a fighting game for the story mode they're legitimately retarded. The last 10 years has seemingly convinced people that play video games that the thing that matters least in a game (any game) is the actual gameplay. Fighting games had, mostly, avoided that but then MK9 came around and ruined that too.

It's just like with comics. I'm sick of people who don't actually care about the thing they're bitching about throwing tantrums because they're not being pandered to.
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>>334319082

Nigger there's a good possibility Capcom will be gone from gaming by the end of the year never mind the "Long game". They fucked up now.
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>>334319415
Based on their latest game releases and their shit as fuck netcode.
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>>334319396
That's where the FGC congregates. Fighting games are a social genre, of course they use social media. Deal with it.
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>>334319293
Looking better? SFV looks fucking fine.

Story mode and other modes is a legitimate complaint.

"Treating it more lightly" is irrelevant because SF has never treated itself all that seriously. It's always been over-the-top martial arts ridiculousness. Takes itself less seriously than MK.

>>334319354
The only thing KoF objectively has over SF and even then, balance will probably be worse than SF's.

>>334319508
You're fucking stupid, holy shit.
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>>334319508
Microsoft might buy them who knows.
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>>334319082

But KoF is actually fun.
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>>334319491
>I'm sick of people who don't actually care about the thing they're bitching about throwing tantrums because they're not being pandered to.

isn't that what you're doing
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>>334316321
i mean its not like its a bad game. i enjoyed season one from that and got season two. im sure plenty did as well so it is still some sort of feat
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>>334319538
>deal with my asspull
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>killer instinct actually somehow won

im so happy
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>>334317236
They didn't even say that either. That 2018 quote came from a Capcom guy's explanation of Street Fighter's unpredictable release schedule. The gaps between numbered SF games have gotten longer and longer over the course of the series' history - something like 3 years between 1 and 2, 6 years between 2 and 3, 9 years for 3 and 4, so by that logic they couldn't start talking about SFV until 2018, 10 years after SF4. It was some playful "We have nothing to announce at this time ;^)" PR-bullshit that gave some perspective on how the series generally works.

People just took the remark out of context and twisted it to be about money, needing Sony's help whatever, when he didn't even say SFV wasn't being made, just that it was pointless to get antsy about new Street Fighter when SF4 had only been out for like 5 years.
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>>334319293
So yes, in other words minor shit that in no way actually effects the game. God forbid Capcom spend their time on a fighting game making something that plays pretty well and is fairly balanced since gameplay is the least important part of vidya. No, what the game REALLY needed to make it great was shit gameplay and no balance covered up by the ability to punch cars and more Chun-Li costumes.
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>>334314238
Anon, if the game didnt have crossplay, online play would be better simply because it would find matches WAY faster, hell SF4 online was better on Xbox than on Sony, it was tied with PC until they decided to use steamworks for the online
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>>334309746
>>334310918
Yeah, it's synonymous with Xbox.
lmaoing @ u xcucks
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>>334314276
WAIT A MINUTE, Homura is in Nitroplua?....is it on ps4? must have
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We are all cursed to main Zero Dante Vergil forever.
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>>334319491
That's actually a very good point.

Most people really into fighting games might play through the story mode once or twice, then just play the game with friends or online.

NO ONE buys a fighting game for the story except for casuals. People into fighting games might care for the lore, but they know the real draw is always the gameplay.

Tons of people put 100s of hours into fighting games and don't give two fucking shits about the story.
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>>334316321
...and?

How does that detract from it's quality in anyway? Its fully deserved
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>>334319783
yes, if you want to sell you make games that are games. Also equating fun with "shit gameplay" proves how juvenile and downright incompetent you are as a gamer.
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>>334319708
Fun is subjective. I agree but then I also find SF fun as well, so...
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>>334319736
>can't even fathom SF not being the main game
I thought you were in Japan you fat fuck
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>>334319657
SFV looks like absolute shit. The fuck is your problem? Background models and textures are terrible, there's clipping issues on fucking everything at all times, hair looks fucking laughably poor meme-quality, hands and feet are still gigantic as fuck. It looks like shit by any standard but especially so when compared to other games out today.
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>>334319827
It is. Everyone played Street Fighter 4 on 360 fucking retard. And over the years Playstation has had the shittiest ports of Capcom fighting games.
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>>334319827
nobodys saying that, but they definitely made a huge mistake throwing away the xbox community.
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>>334319990
Looks fine to me, dummy.

I never hear anyone complain about that shit except for /v/.
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>>334319895
Dunno about casuals these days, but back when I bought some fighting games on the SNES or PS1 we primarily played them with friends.
Casually. Not sure why thats such a hard concept for people these days.

So many dont even play them with friends anymore. They buy the games, go online in ranked, get shrekd and then they cry, rather than duking it out with buddies who are as shit as they are.
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>>334319491
>If anyone is playing a fighting game for the story mode they're legitimately retarded.

you are the problem. you are what they should never listen.
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>>334320053
They didn't have a choice. Capcom is dirt poor and needed Sony just to make the game.

Remember that the decision to fuck over Xbone was made before Xbone flopped.
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>>334320079
Shitpost lazier please.
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>>334320017
>Everyone played Street Fighter 4
I lel'd, famie.
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>>334320112
Why are you trying to hard? They'll never listen.
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I feel like I'm missing something, but is it well known that Capcom is in the red or going to possibly pull a Konami?
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>>334320084
That's another good point too.

But even still, the long-term money is with the FGC and those looking to enter it.

Problem is, Capcom being Capcom went full retard and completely went after the hardcore audience instead of trying to target both audiences like NRS has been doing since MK9. KI too.
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>>334315960
That's literally the only reason i play SF
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>>334320324
No I think what NRS does is wrong and it warps peoples expectations in a negative way.

Casualization is not acceptable. Thats how you get awful games like Mortal Kombat and then casuals start demanding stupid pointless shit that doesnt even play well because playing against the CPU ALWAYS sucks.
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>shit launch
>shit content
>shit servers
>shit community
That's that.
Capcom relied on the franchise's name too much. Serves them right desu.
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>>334320367
I feel sorry for your mother.
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>>334320549
Why shit community?
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Alpha 3's time has come again.
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>>334312560
>Got the supreme edition.
>Have no time to play it because of work and Dark Souls 3.

From what little I played Aria, Spinal, Kim Wu and Cinder seemed fun though.
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>>334320084
>Not sure why thats such a hard concept for people these days.
Again, the last 10 years or so has put such an emphasis on presentation (realistic graphics, symphonic scores, "epic" stories, etc.) which is also the same time period where video games really blew up as a mainstream thing that it's effectively convinced an entire generation of video game players that a game is shit if it's not filled to the brim with extraneous shit even if it has the greatest gameplay known to man.

I fucking suck at Street Fighter 5, and most fighting games at that, but so what? The entire appeal of fighting games is the actual head-to-head experience and I have fun playing even if I'm getting BTFO. But again, most people think every video game now needs to be the equivalent of a blockbuster movie so if it's not style over substance then it can get fucked.
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>>334320676
alpha 3 sucks
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>>334320670
Something something the blacks, elitism, and no Smash.
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>>334312560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6gGXTN9RpM
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>>334320530
That's another good point.

I mean, I like MK but I prefer SF and Capcom's other fighters. I think SF is a better series overall and has always been, more or less.

You're basically right, but it's too bad that's where much of the money is.

Here's what they should've done: released it later so that they could've had a full game on release, advertise the fucking hell out of it, get it out in time for EVO 2017 and Capcom Cup 2017.

As it stands, the majority of the FGC loves it so far, but they completely missed the mark with casuals.

I think it'll turn around as SF gets more updates and gets more complete but I don't see how they thought releasing the game in the state it was in as 'okay'.
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>"Street Fighter V had a horrible second month"

Like do we have actual data over this?
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>>334307850
The biggest problem with SFV was going from a huge roster in SFIV down to a roster of almost nothing in SFV with a lot of the characters being ones people literally don't give a shit about.

See: Mika, Birdie, Zangief, Dhalsim, Necalli, Alex, and even others could be brought up for debate as well

We got all of that garbage instead of characters from SFIV that people actually did care about and enjoy playing.
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>>334307850
GOOD THREAD MY MAN BUT CONSIDER THIS
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Commercials
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Have they released the 2nd DLC character or are they holding off till the end of the month like faggots last time?

Have they released any info? Is it Balrog?
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>>334320897
>Having taste this shit.
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Surprised nobody has brought up the shitty artstyle yet
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>>334320759
I'm your prom date you ugly sack of shit.
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>>334320670
People force quitting or disconnecting when they are about to lose a fight, so a loss doesn't show up on their stats.
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>>334320974
No. They haven't released another DLC character yet.
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They were so smug thinking it'll just print money with no work put in
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>>334321009
well memed my friend
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>>334320749
You basically see this any time some kind of old school game comes out and doesn't have some kind of feature people think of as "mandatory."

Like Vanquish. It didn't have multiplayer, so people complained even though it was probably one of the best TPS games of the 7th generation. "Probably," it was definitely one of the best, if not THE best.

We're seeing this now with Star Fox Zero. People bitching that it's only 11 chapters long despite the fact that it's pretty long for a rail shooter and long for a SF title. Not to mention iirc it even comes with another game entirely anyway, so the complaining's kinda retarded.
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>>334321009
Fuck you.
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>>334321084
>it's only twice as long as sf64
people can't be saying that are you serious
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>pander to waifufags with R.Mika and Karin
>shove it everywhere how many waifus you have
>surprised when no one buys


Any game that shoves too much waifushit at launch is doomed to fail. SFIV hid all of the retard-tier waifushit like Cammy and Sakura behind unlocks, MK isn't waifu heavy and sure as hell doesn't use it as marketing, KI started off with 2 girls like SFIV, etc.

Games like Guilty Gear only sell 300k in their lifetime unless they count $5 steam sales, Nitroplus is recorded to not even sell 50k, a triple AAA game like DOA needed multiple rereleases and yearsto even break 1 million when it had a story to rival MK.

Waifushit doesn't sell to gamers, stick to non-games like VNs or JRPGS.
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>>334319969
he posted while unironically lamenting the lack of gimmick trash modes instead of enjoying the actual game
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>>334314268
FYI, the choppy and inconsistent background animations are because of complaints that the SF4 stages caused framedrops or something. Which is why every tourney match you see is on the boring ass training level.
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>>334320974
You should see how fucked Alex is right now. He literally breaks the game by reverting it to the old version until you to the main menu.
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>>334321206
People forgot how short Starfox64 actually was.

Or they never played it and shitpost about it anyways.
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>>334309746
That really has nothing to do with it.

Nobody owns an xbone anyways.
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>>334320897
It's literally a new fighting game entirely and basically the first season. Pokken Tournament launched with about the same number of fighters and KI launched with even fewer. Give it some time and cut it some slack.

Also lots of people wanted Mika and Alex back. Zangief and Dhalsim too, they are literally World Warriors, being some of the originals.

Necalli is a new character and if anything, SF should have more of those anyway.

We're also getting more characters from SFIV again, like Juri, Ibuki, Dudley iirc, and maybe C. Viper anyway.

I really think that by the time SFV is 'complete', it'll have sold about as well as SFIV.
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>>334321287
>>334321206
well it's more like 50% longer but whatever
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>>334321207
It sells alright in Japan. But true, Mika and Karin need to be removed.
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>>334321207
fucking retard
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>>334320862
It was released early because the pro tour events were all booked and the game wasnt finished by then.

Whoever set that CPT up fucked up.
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>>334321287
This. You can literally sit down and beat SF64 in like, an hour and a half. Maybe even quicker if you're really good.

Rail shooters have NEVER been a genre that's been built on being long, being more about short replayability.

Most of the people bitching about that game have know idea what they're talking about and have no intention on picking up the game as well.
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>>334321302
20 mil+ isnt "Nobody"
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>>334317239
you fucking meme spouting pieces of shit are getting rekted now that everyone is realizing how pathetic and gay SFV is. you're going to be living on the streets once capcom finally kicks the bucket you useless paid shill.
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The way SFV handles DLC characters is straight up grifting. Coming off the bullshit that was incremental SF4 releases, I think people are tired of this shit.
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>>334319781
>believing capcom
>doesn't remember no other editions of MvC3
>does't remember p2w SFxT
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>>334321376
>It sells alright in Japan

No it doesn't. Nitroplus can't even sell 50k in Japan and America combined. How is less than 50k good?


>>334321387
Posting facts to back up my theory. You're just salty waifushit is for a certain kind of casual that's a minority.
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>>334320994
You have shit taste if you think any of those characters deserve their roster spot over characters that were in SFIV.

Yeah, I know Dhalsim and Zangief were in SFIV but out of all the world warriors those ones are played the least by far.
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>>334321207
>MK isn't waifu heavy and sure as hell doesn't use it as marketing

blatantly false
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>>334321285
wut
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>>334307850
>cater to SJW's
>censor game
>try to appeal to everybody, which meant releasing a non finished game because tourney fags
>Ono wants the FGC to be compared to the Olympics
What the fuck is Capcom even doing?
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I'm loving SFV so far. I hope the online doesn't die too quickly. It's the first fighting game I've tried to seriously get into.
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>>334321540
for some random waifu shitter anime garbage that literally no one takes seriously that's not even remotely bad
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>>334321540
What facts? Waifu shit has made games like Fire Emblem more popular than ever.
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>>334307850

>EVER buying a censored game
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>jewgay liang
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>>334321603
>Wanting an SF game without Sim and Gief at launch
Fucking kek buddy, your opinions could not be more worthless.
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>>334321632
SFV is a broken piece of shit filled with glitches. Alex will be banned at most tournaments until it's fixed.
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>>334307850
Nobody.
Plays.
Fighting.
Games.

Literally the button-mashing equivalent of rock paper scissors.
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>hardcore SF fan since SF1
>tfw tourneyfags ruined the SF franchise with SFV
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>>334321713
What does Alex do though
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>>334321540
That's literally one example, out of i'm sure many but the point is still that there are cases where it sells.
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>>334320897
FANG aside most of the new characters are actually quality though. I'll take a well-designed, fun character like Rashid or Laura over garbage like Rufus, El Fuerte or Hakan.
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>>334307985
Kongming
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>>334321632
"versions" of characters exist in separate folders for each patched version. there's currently 2 for everyone except for alex, who's only folder shares naming convention with everyone else's previous patch versions. when alex is picked as the "favorite character" in battle settings, for whatever reason this causes the game to pull from the outdated folders for all the other characters.
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>>334321207
I bought USF4 solely to play as Cammy, Makoto, Juri, Decapre, Ibuki. They are the only characters I play
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>>334321758
Nothing. Just selecting him does it. The only way for it to not happen is to not let people use Alex at all, even for button checks.
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>>334321707
>muh sim and gief
>but i'll never play either of them

Right, you can fuck off now. How can you demand they be in but not get sand in your vagina over Guile, Sagat, Boxer, Honda, and Blanka not being in?
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>>334321713
picking or scrolling over alex isn't the problem you fucking retard, there's no reason to ban alex.
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>>334321658
Tumblr and Smash has made Fire Emblem popular
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>>334321792
>Rufus, El Fuerte or Hakan.
Check your thin privilege
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>>334321792
I'd take all three of those over Laura. She's even more boring and non-existant as a character so they just gave her gigantic tits to try and make up for it.
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also
>major publisher promises the rest of the game's content will be released later
>not realizing that's PR speak for "we're going to release single-player mode as an extra $60 DLC later"

smarter to wait a year for the GOTY version, or at least for when Crapcom is desperate for sales so they mark the base game down 90% hoping to make the money back by people buying the DLC. you'd have to be stupid to buy an unfinished product when you KNOW they're going to double-dip and charge you again to finish it, sort of like those guys at Double Fine
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>>334321207
Son are you retarded?

Waifushit actually sells.
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>>334321792
FANG is actually one of the better new characters though. Necalli is trash looking, Laura has a retarded haircut, and Rashid has a dumbass DBZ scouter for no reason.

SFIV had way better newcomers.
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>>334321931
>Maybe if i make some assumptions, i'll be sure to prove myself right
You can stop posting now.
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>>334320127
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/no-street-fighter-v-until-2018-capcom-producer/1100-6412556/
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>>334321637
>try to appeal to everyone
>by appealing to one small subset of the playerbase, while simultaneously alienating waifufags by appealing to SJWs because of censoring
does your handler know that you're using the internet right now? they should definitely step up their supervision.
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>>334321207
Mika and Karin aren't even good SF waifus though. They're shit tier.
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>>334321970
>i have no information on what i'm talking about
>but let me tell you how it -really- is
great job
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>>334322067
Not an assumption when it's true.
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After the huge blunder sf5 was, I actually switched to melee and it's been a fucking blast. Faster paced, characters are more fun, no corporate dick ruining the game
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>>334322050
>SFIV had way better newcomers.
Only truly great SFIV newcomers were Juri, Abel, Decapre and Oni I guess, if you count him.

Hakan was cool too I guess.

Everyone else was fairly forgettable. El Fuerte had potential as a luchador but they fucked him up by making him a comedic joke character instead of a complete badass.

Out of all the SFV newcomers, the only one I don't care for much is Necalli.

I hope they give us more newcomers.
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>>334322221
Truth is based on facts, not assumptions.
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>>334322221
>>334322225
You had one job
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