What's the most pretentious game you've ever played?
>>334265838
>Five minutes: the game
Dark Souls
>>334265838
>game
EVE Online
every weeb game created
The Beginner's Guide.
Goes into the trash bin.
Dark Souls
Undertale
>>334266324
What's pretentious about dark souls?
Dear Esther
Bientôt l'été
>>334266324
You need to be 18 years or older in order to post on this website.
Probably Limbo.
>>334266574
The combat is shallow, and instead of interesting game design, it places a bunch of mobs in narrow hallways.
3 combo buttons is always greater than 2.
>>334266574
>>334266682
butthurt soulsfags detected
Undertale, with Binding of Isaac being close second. Although Isaac for all its pretentiousness had actually decent gameplay.
>>334266324
Dark Souls isn't as pretentious as its fans.
Undertale is pretentious but it's more obnoxious than anything.
>>334266732
That just makes it a bad game, not pretentious. These aren't synonyms.
>>334266713
faggot go read a fucking dictionary
>>334266737
Once again, you need to be 18 years or older in order to post on this website.
>>334266732
How does any of that characterize pretentiousness?
>>334265838
Difficult to say. Undertale, Bioshock Infinite and Spec Ops: The Line are the ones that come to mind.
>>334266787
>>334266817
>game's on rehash
>not pretentious
>>334266809
What?
>>334265838
Gone home
Dear esther
Lisa
>>334266787
>>334266817
>me too challenging
It's pretentious.
>>334266732
>>334266737
Ironically, your posts are very pretentious.
>>334266831
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pretentious
>>334266831
It really isn't, actually. Pretentious I mean, rehash, sure.
![header[1].jpg_t=1456770083.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/GFYSq4W.jpg "header[1].jpg_t=1456770083.jpg")
>>334265838
I have over 400 games in my steam library and I can't think of a more pretentious one.
Silent Hill 2
>>334266920
I don't have anything to prove by telling it like it is. The game isn't that entertaining. The pace is awful.
>>334266827
Not tried Undertale, but agree 100% with the two others.
>>334266936
>>334266952
>>>334266903
You don't get to appeal to the dictionary. That's not interesting discussion.
>Not making a game about some fedora core guy with a katana who fights angles and other symbols of religion
>Not calling it "Edge Lord"
Probably Bioshock Infinite. All it does is throw around intelligent sounding terms and ideas without any basis to make it seem like the story is somehow more than a clusterfuck of nonsensical shit. Seriously, the portion of the ending where you see the thousands of lighthouses is so up its own ass I couldn't believe it when I saw it. And the moment in which Elizabeth is trying to open a door and a key appears in her hand to which she sates, "Its always been there." I was actively laughing.
The worst part about it is that so many people assume that if you don't like it or saw through its bullshit you just didn't "get it". I understood the story and the themes, it's just that it didn't make any sense within its own internal logic or terms it utilized. It was such a clusterfuck of pretentious ideas thrown at the player's face to try and confuse them into thinking it's somehow too smart for them when instead it's just nonsense.
>>334266827
Honestly, I don't think Undertale is pretentious at all. Its fans are, maybe, but not the game itself. BioShock: Infinite on the other hand is super pretentious. I was a huge fan of BioShock, writing and all, but Infinite was a clusterfuck.
>>334267228
>Angles
You're waifu isacute
>>334266903
Okay sure, in that regard it's pretentious. Generally people on /v/ mean a specific kind of pretentious, and I assumed you meant the same.
>>334267228
>This will never happen
What are some fedora core vidya pham?
>>334267363
There is some connection with "edge lord" there, too.
>>334265838
Thomas was alone
The fucking story is interesting but at the same time pretentious as fuck.
Good thing I got it in a bundle for "free".
>>334267580
All of them
>>334267042
wasn't this the game from the stanley parable dev after he achieved some fame?
>>334267967
Yeah. And Stanley Parable was pretty pretentious as is.
Metal Gear Solid V
You ended your own thread on your OP, OP.
Nothing is more pretentious than The Graveyard
>>334267332
As a Bioshock fan I was entirely disappointed with that game. The story far, far worse than the previous entries, it was an outright BAD story. I dont even have time to get into why exactly, but it comes down to what hppened when they rewrote the game (same as how it went with ME3). On top of that, the gameplay not only failed to improve upon previous installments, it was WORSE than them. The game contributed nothing good to the series except for Elizabeth as fap material.
Worst of all is that people can't stop fucking congratulating themselves on how smart they are because they love the game.
>>334266294
This
By some distance
>someone tries to use a medium in an interesting way
>gets called pretentious
The downfall of our civilisation is due to anti-intellectualism like this.
>>334268670
Depression Quest.
>>334266294
Easily this
mostly because of how many people actually believed it was thought provoking
>>334267042
>>334266294
What is it even about?
>>334268524
i feel like stanley parable was popular because of fourth wall breaking and a good narrator
>>334268747
If it was interesting, it wouldn't be pretentious
>>334268747
>"game" forces you to hold W for five minutes
>listen to some creepy singing and die
What do I get out of this?
>>334268747
>>334267076
you suck ass at the game and opted to get on some pretentious high horse to shit on one of the greatest game ever, orrrrrr you're shit posting.
Dark Souls is great fucking Vidya. You're just a cuck.
>>334266294
It's a game about pretentious games but I wouldn't call it pretentious itself, it's pretty straightforward
>>334268997
Are we trying to turn "cuck" into the next "fag" or some shit? Do we really need to?
>>334269068
the way he writes i suppose he's underage
it's a hip new word for him
The Path, gone home, the begginners guide...
>>334268747
I don't think you know what that word means
>>334268863
Beginner's Guide is basically this timeline of 'games' made by a friend of the creator who no longer makes games. This would be kind of interesting if the games were any interesting but they're ALL walking sims just guided by narration. Later we learn that the friend stopped making games for no real reason and he wanted the creator to stop playing them/being interested in them. Ultimately Beginner's Guide is the creator trying to get his friend to make games again by releasing it.
Also you have to pay for the game and the friend isn't real.
>>334269150
Well, I agree with him, but the cuck shit's getting weird.
fucking SUPERHOT, even though I thoroughly enjoyed it. Jesus that game had its head so far up its own ass.
The witness
Those random quotes in a puzzle game, jesus christ.
>>334265838
Undertale.
>>334268749
Nope, The Graveyard is still more pretentious.
>>334265838
The most recent one that comes to mind is Spec Ops: The Line.
>lol all you had to do was turn off da game
>>334269216
Yes
It would be better as a collection of levels with no plot, or if it stuck with prototype idea of you being a contract killer with a killswitch
>>334269216
I think that was kinda the point (I know this sounds pretentious in itself) just that it was obnoxiously in your face about it, it's meant to be dumb and meaningless like Hotline Miami is.
Like that whole thing in the end where its the most innovative shooter etc. thats just there to be memed about
>>334269216
That ended up being the reason I avoided it.
story/narrative always ruins these games, Just shut the fuck up and let me shoot shit.
>>334266868
oh definitely Lisa jesus christ I was cringing at some points.
>>334269323
I fucking loathe games that do that, and after Undertale I think it will be the next hip thing to do among indie devs
>>334269425
Undertale isn't as serious as Spec Ops though. Like it's cute when they do it but with Spec Ops its like "wow you're legitimately a horrible human"
>>334269187
Reminds me of Whirlwind Heist which is also by one of the stanley parable guys. It's like a 10 minute long walking simulator where you're behind the scenes of a game as someones playing it. Except there's no choices or anything and you never see the player so it may aswell just be a youtube short or something. Atleast it's free.
>>334269218
That's another San Fransico clique game right?
I saw it meme'd and shilled for a good week then that shit just disappeared, was it really that bad? (the irony in asking if a walking sim is bad is not lost on me)
>>334269323
I don't really think it was pretentious, as the message wasn't that deep to begin with. It was a baseline horrors-of-war story.
>>334269410
You get infinite mode and challenges after the story, but I feel like the game exhausts itself right after the story mode
It should have the "no story" mode where entire plot is just cut out
>>334268609
You need to play more games if you think MGS V is bad. Even other Metal Gear games were more pretentious.
Your bait is awful, heres your reply, you slut.
>>334269490
>Stanley Parable was a meta commentary on walking simulators and railroading in games in general
>Creator takes the money he earned and goes on to make legitimate unironic walking simulators
Fuck this industry.
>>334269425
Undertale is a much more transparent moral choice in that you actually have a choice; you don't have to kill anything and it's almost obvious that you're "not supposed" to. Spec Ops forces you to waste everyone you come in contact with, throws it in your face, and then tells you you could've just stopped playing to not be such a horrible person.
It's stupid and shallow and cheap, especially in comparison to some stupid fucking indie game that looks like an Earthbound rip off.
>ctrl+f
>no david cage games
Why hasn't anyone stated the most obvious choice
>>334269586
The plot of Spec Ops was about a soldier that ruined everything by trying to be a hero and it's supposed to be a parallel about how gamers view videogames
>>334269482
And see, I'm not against devs doing something like that. When executed well, it has the effect they think it will have. But that fucking part with the white phosphorous was bullshit, they gave you no choice because enemies infinitely respawned and they didn't even try to hide the fucking spawn points. If they would've just cut off your ammo supply a checkpoint or two behind that so you couldn't keep firing, the transition would've gone a lot smoother. You can't just pull that bullshit and then LITERALLY say, "Well of course you had another choice: You could've turned off the game."
Suck my fuck, Yager.
>>334268997
>
Your argument.
>>334269738
He at least tries to work with legitimate professionals, all the indie developers in this thread that we're discussing are on some amateur hour shit. The pretentiousness imo is due to lack of skill.
>>334269628
I didn't say the game was bad, just pretentious.
The game has literal hours of audio dramas and the director eliminated the majority of the protagonists dialogue partway through (allegedly) because of his 'vision'.
This isn't even getting into the plot itself,
>>334269718
I liked Spec Ops, but it really got annoying how the game insults you for being such a horrible evil prick, when you didn't actually have any choice.
>>334269738
oh, fuck, you're right.
>>334269738
At least his games don't try to send some deep message, they're just interactive movies with retarded plot. David Cage himself is quite pretentious though
Gone Home
Fractured
The Void.
>muh colors
dear esther
what even was that game
>>334265838
Star Wars Battlefront by DICE.
What a pretentious piece of shit, you're not a real battlefront faggot.
>>334266868
>>334266638
There is literally nothing pretentious about Dear Esther. It's the story of a feverish man on the brink of insanity chasing after his dead wife.
>>334269998
But you did have a choice, just don't play the game :^)
Forget that you actually probably spent money on it
Oh by the way, people in this thread, look for the game called Sunset. That's some pretentious tripe, also devs are twats
>>334269998
That's the point, maaannnnn
>>334270137
I don't think you even know what pretensious means you dumb americunt.
>>334270250
San Fransisco faggot clique?
>>334268681
>Worst of all is that people can't stop fucking congratulating themselves on how smart they are because they love the game.
Source?
>>334270350
I don't think anybody knows anything.
>>334270350
It's pretentious in the fact that it thinks it's just as good if not better than the previous installments europoor.
And it isn't.
Firewatch
>>334269765
Is it really?
I thought it was this sort of moral commentary about a man going so far to do the right thing that he ends up becoming a monster himself, but if that is honestly the message, then fuck that.
>>334270365
Not sure what you mean by that
>>334265838
>your favorite game
Dark Souls.
>>334265838
Bioshock Infinite
>>334270478
San Francisco/Pacific Northwest has a lot of developers who make shitty pretentious games. This sounds like something that would come out of that region of the country. Is it?
>ctrl+f
>No Far Cry 3
Pirated that shit and i still felt like going up to Canada to smack the fucker who wrote that drivel upside his head.
I don't think i ever played a game that just pissed me off as badly due to it's pretentiousness. And i BOUGHT Bioshock Infinite!
>>334270185
Why not write a fucking book then, oh wait, that would take a fraction of some actual talent.
>>334270586
Belgium
>>334266920
lol they are!
>>334270686
I'm surprised, Europeans aren't usually cunts when it comes to game design.
>>334270641
http://www.pcgamesn.com/indie/dear-esther-has-now-sold-well-over-750000-copies-thanks-humble-bundle
Hahaha get fucked :)
>>334270459
Firewatch seems like the opposite of pretentious. It's just very boring.
>>334269187
I'm really not going to change anyone's mind here but might as well add my two cents.
The idea behind the game at least from I took from it was don't take abstract as instantly intellectual, and anyone who really does probably is the one with the problem.
There was this game about the little red riding hood visiting grandma, you control a little girl (read: underaged), walk in to the woods and silent hill shit happens and you get raped. That's it game ends in 10 minutes Fuck what's its name
>>334270759
I'd say it set itself up for a let down. I expected a government conspiracy of some kind.
>>334270635
Oh dude, you're gonna love this: https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/04/09/fire-away-spec-ops-far-cry-3-writers-on-criticizing-fps/
The Spec Ops guy sounds like he's pretty far up his own ass too, but oh my god. Yohalem went up his so deep, he's stuck in an infinite loop of assery.
>>334270641
>Why not write a fucking book then
The story is told in a random way each time. There's three separate narratives told simultaneously that all relate to one another, and you hear varying pieces of each on each play through. Physically walking through the space also conveys something text can't.
>oh wait, that would take a fraction of some actual talent.
Okay so you're just retarded. Dear Esther has a 10/10 soundtrack and some amazing graphics too,
Dear Esther tells a really simple story in a complex way. You sound like a pleb TBQH.
>>334266294
>>334267042
the beginner's guide is literally a game about mocking people who read too much into games
now this game is actually a pretentious game
>>334265838
Stanley Parable.
Decent game, but you can't deny it's pretentious as fuck, on purpose.
>>334270743
Well, these are massive cunts
They made a walking simulator about a maid that tends to some rich asshole's apartment, it's full of commentary on war, rebellions and art, it's also full of dumb arguments that sometimes are factually wrong
Devs called this garbage "a game for gamers", and were praised by game journalists because of course they were. But when it failed they had a meltdown on Twitter about how nobody appreciates them and how they're quitting the industry
They're now making some VR church explorer or some shit
>>334270818
I want to know too.
Because this game sounds hilariously awful.
>>334268863
OK, so there's this fictional guy who kept dicking around in Unity and made a million half-assed walking sims, then stopped.
The guy had this friend/fan who thought he was some kind of artistic supergenius, and that his walking sims all encoded some sort of brilliant hidden meaning about, I dunno, the relationship between player and medium, or whatever. The friend is super-upset because (1) the guy never released any of his games, denying the world his artistic genius and (2) the guy stopped making games and kinda fell off the radar.
The friend is the narrator, and he invites you to explore the guy's oeuvre and try to grasp all those hidden meanings and stuff, ostensibly to give the guy the recognition he deserves and maybe get him to start making games again, or at least get back in touch with the friend.
As you play, you figure out that the story isn't actually about the guy, it's about the friend/fan and the way he imbues totally meaningless walking simulators with all sorts of deep meanings as a way of coping with some sorta existential crisis. Meaninglessness and solitude and all that. The guy was just fucking around in Unity, and he was kinda freaked out at being worshiped and stalked by some sad, lonely weirdo. The end.
Now imagine that story told over like two hours with even less grace and zero wit. The Beginner's Guide is dull as fuck. It's a walking simulator about how walking simulators are pretentious and meaningless that somehow manages to be more pretentious and meaningless than most of the stuff that came before. It's the Stanley Parable without the jokes.
>>334267054
stfu
may your mouth be filled with salt and may your soul burn in heaven, may you cry piss and piss shit, may the mighty black horse fucks your virgin corpse with bloody dick on your mother's grave 7 times..
There . curse is set.
you will die 07/07/2017.
BTW
>>334265838
easily
>>334271129
The Path
You're kind of not supposed to go straight to the house and explore the woods or whatever
Dreamfall: Chapters
It hurt /v/. It really hurt as TLJ was my favorite game as a young teen and probobly the game that made me into the man I am. Dreamfall left me with such a bad taste but I wanted to see the conclusion of the saga.
Fuck Norway.
>>334270915
>The story is told in a random way each time. There's three separate narratives told simultaneously that all relate to one another, and you hear varying pieces of each on each play through. Physically walking through the space also conveys something text can't.
walking around looking at shitty models and textures. What the fuck is being conveyed? That they're competent with development tools?
Three separate narratives, that's a cool idea, a good writer might even receive some praise for accomplishing this, sounds like it would be difficult in that medium, which means the final product would probably be a lot more interesting.
>>334271395
fuck
this
Chapters was a straight knife to the gut.
>>334270878
>In Far Cry, it’s about systems. It’s about shooting in a game. The system abstracted, what the system does to your brain. In my case, it’s about developing a frenzy, because it’s about addiction. Addiction culminates in an overdose. The game is based on an overdose structure. In other words, you can have a game where you have more and more obstacles. You can have a game where you have more and more power. I think that’s the difference. We both looked at what the studios were making and said, “Okay, here’s how we can create a meaning that’s deeper.”
>>334269656
We live in a post post-modernist world. Sincerity becomes irony becomes sincerity again, like how Michael Keaton is going to be in capeshit again after Birdman.
>>334271169
/v/ is full of pretentious faggots so if /v/ generally agrees that a game ISNT pretentious, than it truly is. Just like the Talos Principle. Of course they won't admit their own pretentiousness.
Meanwhile games /v/ generally calls out as being pretentious really aren't, it's just /v/ trying to seem intelligent (ie. pretentious) by calling out games that threaten their low sense of self esteem.
it's a real pleasure to share this fine board with intelligent people such as myself
Bastion.
>>334265838
That fire watch game that everyone forgot about
Gone Home
Pretty much any 3D game released by indie nu-male fags; walking simulators with no engaging gameplay.
>>334271692
How is this pretentious either? It's a straight narrative.
>>334271647
Cage choker pin is better as it's kinky
>>334271734
aka
CALIFORNIA
worst sort of liberal-progressives activists. They don't even hide that shit.
>>334265838
Braid
It amazed me that someone actually tried to 'expose' the Mario formula, and that was before the damsel post structuralists moved in the field of video games.
>>334265931
Explain further
>>334270137
>any shitty take on a franchise means pretentious
Battlefront doesn't even take itself serious, how is a multiplayer game pretentious?
>>334270137
Yesterday I played it in a long time and the first thing that happens when I join a server some shills start to praise how immersive and beautiful the game is and how the lack of content doesnt matter
>Machinarium
"-Wow look at me I singlehandley revived the adventure game genre with this terrible game with terrible art. Ain't I Cute?"
ugh
>>334270818
The Path is what I think you're referring to.
>>334266732
>The combat is shallow, and instead of interesting game design, it places a bunch of mobs in narrow hallways
Dumbass, use a spear next time you retarded monkey, you are literally too stupid for "shallow" combat
>>334270686
Larian Studios is pretty based.
>>334271963
That's a pretentious 'person'.
>What's the most pretentious game you've ever played?
pic related
>>334265838
Bioshock Infinite and Undertale.
>>334272059
But the game itself isn't pretentious it's the developers really.
>>334272032
I'm talking about Tales of Tales
Country can have more than one videogame company
>>334265838
Life is Strange
just had the waifus.
>>334272182
That we can agree on.
How is Undertale pretentious?
>>334272245
>muh moralities but self defense is bad
>if you kill someone in vidya it's bad
>>334271647
Did this "choice" even do anything?
Did it change the story or gameplay in any way other than "hey she wears either the cage pin or the bird pin lol"?
>>334272245
>>334269323
The game never once says this. Not even the devs said this.
>>334272371
It's a cheap trick to forcefully make you more interested in a character
"She wears the thing I picked for her"
>>334272312
>he can't even understand what's the point of undertale that is practially telling you the answer with genocide route
lol
>>334272245
It really isn't, but /v/ is programmed to believe that any Indie game that is highly rated must be pretentious by definition.
ITT:
A bunch of shitheads over qualify games for the label of "pretentious"
...and Beginner's Guide gets called out legitimately.
>>334272453
Game has tooltips that say "if you were a better person you wouldn't be here" or "do you feel like a hero yet?"
When people asked devs if they could avoid WP section, devs replied "just turn off the game"
So yeah, they did say that
>>334272539
>he can't even understand self-defense
Kek, what pretentious reply from a pretentious game
So what I gather is that the only games that are allowed are AAA blockbusters with an easy storyline and no subtlety or questions being asked?
In film terms it's basically that you'd rather watch Transformers over Bergman.
Metaru Giar Soridu: Famtom pain
>>334272453
>WW: There are 4 official endings and 1 unofficial ending. 1 in Konrad’s penthouse. 3 in the epilogue. And 1 in real life, for those players who decide they can’t go on and put down the controller.
http://gamingbolt.com/aftermath-crossing-the-line-with-walt-williams
![218696[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FZss3SV.jpg "218696[1].jpg")
>>334271432
>walking around looking at shitty models and textures.
A. The game is actually Really pretty B. You could say the same of any first person game
You have a goal in Dear Esther too, it's not aimless, in fact it's too linear
>What the fuck is being conveyed?
I said in my first post. It's the story of rambling, feverish man ambling towards the point where he thinks his (dead) wife is waiting for him. He talks about his wife, Paul on the road to Damascus, and random stories about the history of the shitty little island. They seem unrelated at first but eventually tie into one another. It's conveying the struggle of the MC's journey.
>>334272614
Depends what Bergman film, not all of them are good.
>>334272612
The game is pretty straightforward with the intentions behind 4th wall breaking. I'm not calling it smart, because it's not, you're just as dumb as a brick
FFVI
>>334272673
Being straightforward or not has LITERALLY NOTHING with being pretentious. What makes you even assume anyone calls it pretentious because of that?
>>334267580
most weeb shit
>>334271579
This almost stops sounding like pretentious artsy fartsy douchebaggery and begins to take on a tone of schizophrenic nonsense.
The Walking Dead
The Last Of Us
>>334272668
Point still stands. The Americanisation of culture has meant anything that isn't explosions, good vs evil, or just brahs hanging out is considered pretentious.
>>334272614
Pretentious means that there is no subtlety, ergo nobody here bashes a game for being subtle.
>>334265838
Spec Ops The Line
>>334272614
>that are allowed
what kind of point are you making, no one is saying what is or is not "allowed." This is a thread for shitty pretentious games that railroad the player into doing something, then browbeating the fuck out of them for doing that thing (spec ops, undertale, etc) or even worse, games trying to convince you that walking slowly down a path while a narrator drones on is somehow deep
>>334272608
I swear people only think shit like this is "pretentious" because they think the game is calling them a bad person for continuing. It's merely supposed to be an analogue for pressing on in spite of better judgement. Just like the "Genocide" shit in Undertale. A bunch of idiots got butthurt because they read too far into the game and thought the game was shaming them.
Then they took real offense from an inanimate object. How pathetic.
>>334272921
Pretentious means giving more merit to something it shouldn't have it, and we have heard the same story and same reasoning and same conclusion 100000 times so it makes sense. There's only so many times you can watch a film about man climbing impossibly tall mountain.
Shantae and the Pirate's Curse
>>334272921
Holy fuck you actually think this lmao
What is wrong with you? Did your shitty moral quandary 2d pixel art indie game not sell very well on steam? Did someone criticize your walking simulator made with blender and unity?
>>334265838
>>334268747
>posts nigger scinece dude
>anti intelectualism
Nah the downfall of civilization is due to happen because sissies like you, enjoy your muslims future whereever you live.
>>334273249
He's an idiot, but so are you. And obnoxious as all holy hell, to boot.
>>334273083
Undertale's genocide run isn't pretentious. You don't have to do it, the player knows that killing someone like Toriel is a shitty and mean thing to do in the game's world. Spec Ops on the other hand whines and bitches at you and tells you you're a bad person even though you have no choice in the matter, past not playing the game anymore and getting a refund for your shitty 6 hour long linear cover shooter. The game presents the player with situations that the player knows is bullshit and unnecessary, then doesn't give the player the option to proceed unless they do BAD THING. Then the game cries at you over it.
>>334273319
Are you perhaps one of those enlightned moderates that will save everyone with their moderation?
>>334273249
You're more of a nigger than Neil could ever hope to be.
>>334273393
Sure.
>>334268747
Making a video game where all you do is slowly walk down a path while a narrator drones on isn't interesting, nor is it intellectual. Would you say the same shit if a 90 minute movie was nothing but white scrolling text telling an uninteresting story on a black screen?
MGS2
FFVIII
SMT Digital Devil Saga 2
>>334267580
Hatred
Stanley's parable. What a waste of 7 bucks.
>>334273393
I love how butthurt overly-politicized morons get when someone says they don't like either side of an argument. It completely rocks their "us-vs-them" worldview, causing them to immediately go on the defensive in order to avoid having to think about things differently.
>>334267580
Obsidian games
Blizzard games
>>334272614
No frankly I don't care that much about a story in a game, gameplay is the most important thing. But the problem with those pretentious games is that they don't even have good gameplay and focus instead on the story. A story is always a nice thing to have and a good story is even better but it's not necessary. A story shouldn't be over complex just for the sake of it especially in a video game.
And then there's the characters, a game becomes much more enjoyable if it has a cast of likable and memorable characters, a character doesn't have to be complex just to be likable. The problem with those pretentious indie games is that they barely have any likable characters, and most character interaction. happens through notes / audio logs which is cheap game design.
>>334265838
Probably the MGS games, the stories are always cringe.
>>334273393
>not shoving your head two feet deep inside your own ass and not calling every black person a nigger makes you an "Enlightened Moderate"
>>334273710
Didn't you hear? You can either be a full blown white nationalist race warrior, or a self flagellating liberal cuck social justice warrior. It's impossible to be anywhere in between.
>>334273836
Which side makes the best vidya?
>>334266294
This.
>>334273083
People have these feelings towards the writers, they feel the writers aren´t allowed to feel accomplished for creating a bullshit situation and then claiming there is a choice. Similar to picrelated.
I think all these situations like Spec Ops forcing to firebomb civilians would go over better if there is an alternate ending or way to do it, even when it is half-assed like Catwoman leaving Gotham in Arkham City or keep sitting down in Farcry 4. Having this would bring the point of having a choice across and I would find it more interesting to belittle the smarter/logical gamers by cutting out their gameplay rather than ignoring them alltogether.
>>334273083
>implying
Genocide route is a completely optional method of playing the game and even rewards the player with the most challenging bosses. Spec ops isn't helped by it's "ironically" generic tps gameplay either.
>>334271619
Basically this.
Pretentious is a synonym for 'I don't like it' round here.
It's funny because in the desperation people have to call everything SJW if it's not titties and guns means that games that are actually doing something interesting and aren't just walking simulators get ignored or just labelled with buzzwords.
Throwing the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak.
>>334270368
Different anon, but here's a couple good ones.
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/in-game/51264143#51264143
"BioShock Infinite" dares to tackle racism, nationalism and religion while creating a completely original and beautifully evocative world."
"Bioshock Infinite not only goes places no games have thought to before, but goes places other games have feared to tread and they do this with a sense of artistry."
"The game never stops being deeply fun and provocative."
"Bioshock Infinite is a masterpiece of story and game design and I give it a 10 out of 10."
http://www.gamesradar.com/bioshock-infinite-review/
"Through a combination of affecting voicework, convincing facial animations, and brilliant AI, Elizabeth feels like a completely autonomous companion--a friend. Her body language delivers emotion without words"
"Blended into these gorgeous locations are messages of repugnant bigotry, and the stark contrast between the idyllic cityscape and the prejudice that pervades it tells a story all by itself."
http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/pc/reviews/1025731.BioShock-Infinite-review/
"Infinite doesn’t break the fourth wall and question the player’s actions within the game the same way the original BioShock did, but it tells a much better scripted story"
"Infinite puts it beyond a shadow of doubt: BioShock is the most important new intellectual property of this hardware generation."
Bioshock Infinite had poor gunplay, worse implementation of plasmids/vigors, bad boss fights, an incredibly mediocre story, choices that didn't matter, an incredibly dumb protagonist (like not covering up his marked hand with a glove and taking the numbered baseball after being instructed not to), and wasn't provocative with it's depiction of racism in the slightest.
Despite all that, reviewers lapped it up anyway and gave it unanimous praise. These ones I linked are only the tip of the iceberg.
>>334266732
>le hate dark souls meme
Does /v/ even like video games?
>>334272643
>for those players who decide they can’t go on and put down the controller
Faggoty nümale detector
>>334272663
You are more pretentious than any game in this thread. Even a mediocre teenage vampire romance author could write a more compelling book on these subjects than any game ever will. Why people like you think video games are a good medium for deep philosophical questions and emotional breakthroughs is beyond me. Do you even read?
>>334267332
>The worst part about it is that so many people assume that if you don't like it or saw through its bullshit you just didn't "get it"
Is there anything worse than this type of thinking about any form of media? Are people really so up their own ass that they think understanding any type of story with existential elements means theyre some type of deep intellectual?
>>334274108
>"BioShock Infinite" dares to tackle racism
The only part I remember that even remotely approached this was the baseball thing. Which didn't even matter.
None of this matters.
>>334273918
One does awful vidya,other wants to ban all vidya.
There is no good choice here
>>334273918
Neither. People who make good vidya don't have time for stupid political shitflinging.
>>334274156
Well, check this post:
>>334272539
So yeah
>>334272663
That all sounds pretty pretentious imho
>>334271787
Only REALLY answer.
>>334267332
Don't forget the dumbass ending. The game mentions the infinite alternate realities numerous times, then it tries to tell you somehow killing you would kill every Booker/Comstock in every universe, as if that makes any sense. As if one foot in the devs' mouths wasn't enough, they stick another one in their with DLC that retcons that stupid nonsense not even a year later iirc.
>>334274108
This is why people don't take gaming journalists serious.
>>334267332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_u18_BKczg
Obligatory.
>>334266205
No weeb games take themselves seriously. You're thinking about gears of war: gay muscle men in bondage gear with guns
Bioshock infinite for its 2deep4me story
>>334274387
It;s funny how /v/ hates Bioshock Inifite for all of these bullshit infinite universes,while praises Dark Souls which have exactly the same problem with lore
>>334274205
>>334274191
I'm so glad that we're finally getting to the point where rational people are calling out both /pol/ types AND SJWs for their hysterical 'you're either with us, or against us!' bullshit.
It's about time their stranglehold on the discourse was broken. Now people have realised how ludicrous they are and are no longer scared of speaking their mind. People now just brush off insults like 'fencesitter!' or 'cuck!' or 'nazi!' because it's obvious these people are dunces.
>>334274527
The pretension comes from the developers assuming their rule systems are good when they're actually shit.
>>334273359
The genocide run maybe not. But the whole "oh the monsters are just expressing themselves, with magic, that hurts you, and you're a monster for defending yourself!" is a dumb as shit bait and switch.
>>334274643
I've been doing it for at least two years. Annoying these retards has never stopped beingfun
>>334266732
You dont know what pretentious means, do you?
Silent Hill 2
>ctrl+f
>fez
>no results
FEZ was pretty pretentious.
>>334274829
What's a fez?
>>334274108
>>334274481
This is the same thing that happened in comics industry, people were desperate to validate their hobby - well, some of them - and so they invented the term called 'graphic novel' disregarding the fact that most of the writers couldn't be published even in the lowest of the low genre fiction circles. It worked. Gaiman even got Hugo for 'best novel' with fucking Sandman. Pic related is Talbot, one of graphix novel staple authors, shitting on the visual form with his horrendous writing.
Of course, this influx of shit writing about video games stems from clickbait business model and bunch of diploma factory grads having nothing else to do but jerk each other off. In fact everything sounds like it was written like a teenage redditor, and then you look it up and see a bald cocaine addled man doing a similar review.
Stuff like that is nothing new, it's how literature studies were killed from the 60s onwards, death of the author, death of the gameplay, you name it. Read Bloom's preface to Western Canon, it summarizes this phenomena nicely.
>>334265838
Fifa 2012
That shit was pretentios as fuck, evwn by fifa standards
>>334274758
Same here, it's just nice to see that it's becoming much more prevalent.
>>334272371
The devs said it was an "experiment" in "manipulating" player decision making. As it turns out, players will avoid picking the cage pin if you make them watch people being tortured to death in cages beforehand. How profound!!!111
Flash game called Beauty of Colors or something
Pixelshit where you're a monster grabbing balloons, accidentally blow shit up, maybe drown a kid. It's implied some other kid is imagining you in their dreams.
>>334275014
Or because it's a fucking cage.
>>334267332
Watch this. Very well done critique of the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdNhwb7iuI4
>>334275040
I liked that game.
>dark souls and undertale bait
I hate you fucking people
Dark Souls is a good game
Undertale is up its own ass but it's not pretentious, pretentious doesn't mean indie with dialogue. It fucking sucked but kept things very small in scope, it knew exactly what it was doing.
The Witness, but not really the actual puzzles or anything just the fucking audio logs with "SO SMART" quotes from people that aren't actually insightful or intelligent in the slightest and drone on for fucking 10+ minutes at some points.
>>334275298
>pretentious doesn't mean indie with dialogue
And nobody said that's why it's pretentious. You sound like an assblasted memesoul fan.
>>334275040
It was just a bunch of dreams about fucking around as a giant ocean monster. It didn't even have a message other than maybe people don't like it when you drown them and then you wake up.
>>334275153
I liked it when I was first getting into games beyond gamecube/PS2, but looking back it's probably real dumb
>>334265838
Biocock: Inflated
Can you imagine how many of the classic games of the 90s would be labelled pretentious by post-gamergate /v/?
>>334274129
>>334274368
I don't think you guys know what pretension is, or you're really reaching for what counts. Is silent Hill 2 pretentious? Something isn't pretentious just because you dislike it or you perceive it to be so.
>>334267076
And that just makes a bad game. You are just parroting pretentious at games you dont like.
>>334275401
Nobody said anything about why undertale was pretentious. The fan base sure as fuck is, thinking it's way deeper than it actually is, but that's just what happens when something is popular on tumblr
I've never played a souls game but they look neat, as soon as the last guardian comes out I might get a PS4 for that and bloodborne
>>334275298
Undertale constantly tries to look smart and aware of video game cliches, but it does so by using those same cliches and sticking dialogues about how stupid those cliches are. That's typical pretentiousness: trying to appear smarter than you actually are.
