itt: we trigger /k/
Let me guess, it's supposed to be called a machine gun because it has a drum clip?
Except that may well be an assault rifle.
A shitty one, but nevertheless. Not going to hit much without a stock.
>>334253234
>drum clip?
>>334253090
other then ew a g36, with out a stock no less. there's nothing to be triggered at.
I don't see the issue a gun is a gun.
>>334253234
beta c mag
>>334253090
>>334253234
>>334253260
>>334253324
>>334253332
i think the point is that it's a mash of random weapon parts
>>334253380
eh, it's just a g36 with no stock for some fuck of a reason, and a drum mag. Nothing too weird.
>>334253234
triggered
Love this game.
So making guns accessible in the first place is bad enough, but why are americans against regular check-ups? What bad could possibly come of the police picking up a shotgun some hillbilly left on the veranda?
>>334253380
No it is not. That is a g36 with a drum magazine, stock removed for some retarted reason.
Op is just a faggot who has learned from new battlefield games that anything with a drum magazine must be a light machine gun.
>>334253669
in america police need a warrant or to witness probable cause to search your property, since we are the land of the free.
>>334253723
The police isn't free to search dangerous criminals
>>334253669
Explain what you mean by check up.
Where I'm from, the cops don't bother a person unless there seems to be a problem.
>>334253090
Doesn't this technically count as a pistol due to goofy ATF regulations?
>>334253669
Because fuck you Europe.
The police do not have the right to inspect my property, and they will never get it. Further they don't know who owns guns anyway, since we don't have registration.
>>334253669
Don't forget
>black child playing with toy gun in public
>executed by police
>white family brings their assault rifles to wal-mart
>muh freedoms
Don't let anyone tell you America isn't a dystopia, anon-kun
>>334253762
leaving a weapon on your porch doesn't make you a dangerous criminal, it makes you an idiot. and it's fine to be an idiot here, since we are free to do as we wish.
>>334253867
I've wanted to go there all my life but I don't want to die. Figured I'd be safe since I'm white but then I see shit like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtNgvH1Jh3A
>>334253798
It depends if the receiver was made and classified as a pistol or a rifle.
If it was made as a pistol, it's just a goofy pistol.
If it was made as a rifle, or if someone puts a stock on it, it's a Short Barreled Rifle, since that barrel doesn't look 18 inches long.
>>334253669
>why no allow the police to check your house every once in a while, i mean, you've got nothing to hide, right?
Let the police go through your browsing history anon. Surely you have nothing to hide?
This is a bullshit argument. A hick living a shotgun laying around does nothing. Either the hick gets shot with his own gun by some porch monkey, or he lives in a rural area and nobody gives a fuck.
Leave people to their own damn business. If the police visit for a legal reason, and see the gun laying around unsafely, they can tell him to put it away, and in some parts of the US it is illegal to leave guns around in public view without being supervised/cared for.
How would that trigger me? It's a shitty G36K with a 100 rounds magazine and no stock. It's still an assault rifle.
>>334253867
White people with assault rifles don't usually run up to police-officers and aim at them.
>>334253962
My browsing history isn't going to be stolen and used to kill people.
>>334253867
>playing with gun in public
No, people had called in saying there was a kid with a gun and they didn't know if it was fake. Police showed up, he pointed it at them, they shot him.
That's not "playing with toy gun in public" you faggot.
And there's a difference between pointing a gun at somebody and carrying a rifle slung over your shoulder in a non threatening manner.
>>334254041
Neither are my guns.
>>334254076
Factually incorrect.
>>334254068
>there's a difference between pointing a gun at somebody and carrying a rifle slung over your shoulder in a non threatening manner.
Yeah, the toy gun can't kill me and the rifle can :^)
>>334253582
Wut gaem?
>>334254041
But what if it could? Would you be alright with police coming into your home, searching through your PC for torrent programs and websites and booking you for illegal actions, if it meant others would be hurt/harmed?
For some reason, I don't think so.
Also, point out to me where guns are stolen from outside the home in a statistical majority or at LEAST above 25% of the time. I don't know the figures, but I'm willing to reasonably assume that stolen guns are more likely stolen from inside the home.
But once again, you're treading on people's freedoms and liberties, to justify something that is a statistical minority.
>>334253867
how about some parenting, eh? you know, not letting your nine year old fucking son wave a fucking gun around on the fucking street?
>>334254118
Not stolen, acquired from a relative. They could have known location of safe keys/safe combinations.
>>334254125
0/10, work on your baito desu
>>334254041
it baffles me how a machine which can kill people only when misused has tons more regulations and shit than tools specifically designed to kill
>>334254118
I'd like to see the security measures the proper owners took to secure their guns.
Because mine are behind several locks. Most of the info I find suggests the guns were just in a drawer or closet, and not a safe.
An estimated 14,000-15,000 people died to gun related homicides in the US in 2014.
An estimated 100,000-3,000,000 self defense instances with a gun occur every year.
Whats more important, 14k lives or 100k lives?
Don't forget to factor in that an overwhelming portion of those 14k deaths are gang crime in shitholes like chicago that already have insanely strict gun control laws.
>>334254149
Nigger if my toaster proved a lethal danger to me, my family and everyone else on the planet I wouldn't just let the police inspect it, I'd take a hammer and destroy it. Stop with these inane comparisons.
>>334254041
>owning gun
>inb4 muh freedom xD
>>334254143
Resonance of Fate
>>334253867
>>black child playing with toy gun in public
>>executed by police
Good, never relax around nigletts
>>334254143
Resonance of fate.
>>334254234
probably because that machine that can only kill people when misused kills three times as many people on a yearly basis.
>>334254234
That's because you're looking at it the wrong way.
Most guns weren't made to be used to kill someone. They were made to sell and be used as elaborate hole punchers.
>>334253090
If you wanted a Resonance of Fate thread you should have just said so, anon.
>>334254292
Does that stupid little jigaboo know who he's messing with?
Hugh Jackman could buy his entire fucking village. He's also a really nice guy, as shown by the fact that he's willingly putting himself around niggers.
>black people
not even once
>>334254240
>inane comparisons
I'm not talking about the machine itself. I'm talking about your privacy and browsing history. If that specifically proved to be malignant and put other people's lives in jeopardy, would you be willing to let the police violate your privacy? No, you wouldn't.
Therefore police shouldn't be going to each house and making sure guns are locked up. That is for the individual to decide how to lock up their ordinance. If somebody wants to leave their gun outside (i'd like to see statistics on this as it's almost never happened), they are an idiot and should be subject to the full extent of the law should the police be patrolling and see an issue, or serving a warrant/performing a call and see the gun, but nobody should be made to register their firearm and have police routinely inspect their private property. That is not liberty, that is a minor form of tyranny.
>>334254468
Browsing the internet has a million uses. Owning a gun has one - Killing people. I suggest you work on your argument.
>>334253921
Okay, his hands weren't exactly "up" for the most time, however idk why American police doesn't even bother with warning shots or shooting in the legs.
>>334254524
killing people has many uses.
>>334254524
>. Owning a gun has one - Killing people
False.
>>334254550
if you knew anything about guns you'd know every shot is a shot to kill. There are no real safe places to shoot someone.
>>334254524
>one
Collecting, trading, investment, sporting, hunting, historical value.
I'm sure I'm missing a few.
>>334254589
What's some others?
Killing animals?
>>334254223
Unless the relative let them use a gun in that particular instanse, it's still a theft, anon.
>>334254237
People often bring up the "if it's locked I can't get it out on time" defense.
>>334254643
Shooting paper targets.
>Americans
>>334254306
That's fucking disgusting.
>>334254638
>collecting, trading, investment
could do this with something that isn't as dangerous
>sporting, hunting
see above, and hunting isn't exactly a necessity anymore
>historical value
probably not the kind of guns he's talking about
he doesn't mean some old blunderbuss he means mass produced modern guns
>>334254234
That's because cars are way more dangerous than guns
On average in 2012, 92 people were killed on the roadways of the U.S. each day, in 30,800 fatal crashes during the year.
11,208 deaths by homicide, 505 deaths due to accidental discharge of a firearm
>>334254675
That's training. The goal is still being able to shoot someone when necessary,
>>334254638
The only one of those defined by "use" is hunting and you don't need a handgun for that.
>>334254675
Why not let me build a nuclear warhead to prop open doors with too?
>>334254550
>warning shots
So, you mean shooting indiscriminately in a stupid manner which will kill other people? How about no.
>shooting in the legs
So, shooting a moving object, a small moving object? At a downward angle where the round WILL ricochet? How about no.
When a police shoot, they are using lethal force. If you're using a gun it's lethal force. Full stop. When someone points a gun at you, you do not have time for warning shots, because by then they've made their shot, and you're dead. You do not have time for retarded leg shots that you will miss, because again, that is how you end up dead. And how you end up hurting or killing other people, people who did not pose a threat to your life. It is downright irresponsible and suicidal to fire warning shots or aim for the legs. That is why the police do not do those things, because they are not suicidal and only want to hit the person who poses a threat.
>>334254550
our police are primarily trained as problem solvers, they don't get as much combat training as they really need. they specialize in domestic disputes, burglary investigations and traffic stops. when the shit hits the fan and they're dealing with some nut running around in the streets, they get nervous. and instead of risking a fist fight that they might lose, they would rather shoot to kill.
>>334254675
Why do you need a real gun for that?
>air rifles
>paintball guns
etc.
Face it there's no reason to own an actual gun
>>334254745
What's dangerous about someone using a gun responsibly to shoot paper targets for sport?
What else could you even use to replicate this sport? BB/Airsoft guns are no where near the same.
>>334254524
Wrong, they can also kill Aardvarks, Albatrosses, Alligators, Alpacas, Anacondas, Anteaters, Armadillos, Baboons, ect. The list goes on and on, anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5TggMyoVL4
>>334254753
Not really. Sometimes it's just fun to shoot.
>>334254747
>11,208 deaths by homicide
>>334254524
Guns have more uses than that.
Besides, killing people has multiple uses:
>defending your life
>defending your asshole from being raped
>defending you PC from being stolen
>>334254757
>you don't need a handgun for that.
>need
There's that word. I can use a handgun for hunting, and in some cases, it's the more humane choice.
>>334254794
Tell that to the dude who died at a firing range because a kid who fucked up with a gun
I think it was last year, maybe the year before
>>334254792
Yes there is. Killing dirty commies like you, so you can't install commie regimes and send millions to gulags to die.
Get fucked.
>>334254854
You can use a slave to pick cotton too. Laws are for pussies.
>>334254550
I used to think this too but the more I thought about it, warning shots and such are really only ever used in fiction and movies and such. In real life when you're dealing with someone who's possibly armed and aiming what looks to be a real weapon at you, when split seconds matter, you're not going to carefully aim away and use warning shots as a way to intimidate or subdue them; you're going to neutralize your target, plain and simple.
>>334254118
we are aware that niggs keep stealing guns off each other, but we're talking about real americans who know about gun safety
>>334254417
>Hugh Jackman could buy his entire fucking village.
anyone with $50 bucks can buy their village.
>>334254864
Great counterargument
>guns are for crazy weirdos
>"no I'm not, tell me that again and I'll shoot you"
lel
>>334254753
Nope, its a leisurely activity. I suppose you could say you're training to shoot paper targets better and improve your marksmanship, which is personally why I enjoy shooting; you get to steadily improve and the improvements are very obvious.
I shoot paper targets for fun. I'm not "training" to kill people, considering where I live I highly doubt I'll ever actually need to shoot someone but I can rest easy knowing I can if I need to. I'm more than content with shooting paper targets because it is insanely fun if not a little expensive depending on what guns you use.
Gun control is proven to be effective in preventing armed crimes.
>>334254306
after some thinking i want to say that this desing isnt as retard as it seems.
that barrel mag is just an extention of the tube, where shells are usually stored in shotguns. also it is automatic shotgun, so i see this gas-tube that clearly is connected with mag.
i am not gun-nut in slightest, but can you pinpoint what exactly is wrong with this gun, weight distribution aside?
>>334254820
What? Surprised at how few people are killed by guns each year?
>>334254820
9,000 of those were probably gang related homicides. ms-13 and 18th street gangs. they are savage mexicans.
>Liberal pussies are so scared of guns they coin the term "assault rifle"
>Now shitty writers have convinced normies that assault rifle is an actual classification
>>334253861
Dont you mean you're mummy & daddys property
>>334254858
Oh, so you mean someone not properly and responsibly handing a gun?
>>334254792
t. Someone who has never shot a gun before (and probably doesn't understand basic physics)
Shooting a shitty airsoft rifle or BB gun is nowhere near comparable to an actual firearm.
>>334254916
Explain Chiraq
>>334254892
But there are laws against slavery, and more efficient things to use than a nigger.
There are regulations concerning what kind of pistol you can use to hunt, but unless there's a specific season for them separate from rifle hunting, none specifically against using one.
>>334254524
>Browsing the internet has a million uses
Yes, it does. One of which can kill people.
>>334254745
You're right. Finally someone with some sense. After we get rid of the gunfags, we can move onto every fossil fuel powered construct of conveyance and ban the slaughter of animals.
>>334254942
>what is the sturmgewehr-44
>>334254820
Just about a 10th of the number of legal self defense cases involving guns every year in america. Whats more important, 10k lives or 100k lives?
>>334254894
You mean white loners, right?
>>334253090
What type of clip does it use?
>>334253669
>please fuck me in the ass government-sama
>>334253867
>black child waving a real looking gun around and pointing at people in a threatening way
>white family shopping peacefully with their rifles slung on their shoulders
if you can't realize the difference you are a legitimate autist
>>334254769
>So, you mean shooting indiscriminately in a stupid manner which will kill other people?
Not him, but missing isn't hard. People do it all the time.
Don't forget liberals dump suicide deaths with guns into "gun deaths" statistics and keep inflating it.
Most of the gun crime is niggers with illegally acquired firearms.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>>334254914
Eh, it works. It's why we have them. To kill dirty Europeans who want to take our rights.
You're all too suicidal (except the Czechs and Swiss) to learn from your own history, but Americans aren't. It's not like Europe's dictatorships are some far off thing. The USSR dissolved a couple decades ago. People were being murdered en masse in the Balkans at the same time. It will happen again, as it always has, and no amount of wishful thinking will change that. Quite the opposite.
>>334254929
But anon, one death by a firearm is one to many. Now pardon me while I engage in a sanctimonious circle jerk with my liberal friends.
Not surprised that a bunch of Europoor are against guns in these type of threads.
>>334254618
http://health.howstuffworks.com/human-body/parts/best-place-to-get-shot.htm
>>334254769
>>334254893
European police uses warning shots and I've never seen anyone bring up the issue of bullets dropping down and hitting random people. Isolated instances may appear but I imagine the probability of someone getting (lethaly) shot that way is astronomically low.
Furthermore, those cops seen in the aforementioned video weren't shooting at the moving target, they closed in on him and opened fire when they were within 2 meters.
>>334255090
Stripper clip.
>>334254942
Assault rifle is an actual classification
>An assault rifle is a fully automatic selective-fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.
The term is misused all the time and confused with Assault Weapon, which means it has a shoulder thing that goes up.
>>334254753
>get your self an olympic grade target .22
>im training to kill people
>with .22`s
toppest fucking kek.
>>334255065
>gunfag logic
guiz you need a lethal weapon to protect yourselves
the reason you need this lethal weapon is because others have similar lethal weapons
guiz this is important
guiz p-plz listen :(((
I win.
>>334255006
>Explain Chiraq
I don't think anyone can my man. It's a mystery.
>>334255106
Sure, so there's no need to miss on purpose.
>>334255121
In New york just a couple years ago police hit 9 different bystanders while aiming for their target. They need no help in fucking up.
>>334255086
that 60% that steal it are majority black people in urban areas, not in north dakota where they use guns to kill pest animals
>>334255121
European police shoot people to save their lives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_75uR4u5YEs
>>334255168
Stupid, but not entirely incorrect.
>>334255185
>>334255156
A knife, baseball bat, tire iron, crowbar, tons of other perfectly legal items can be used as a lethal weapon against you.
Or just being outmanned. Plenty of people get jumped for the fucking change in their pockets by packs of niggers in NYC.
Good job arguing like a redditor though.
>>334254942
>>334255134
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNjdlJxanmQ
>>334255168
>low quality gif
>>334255115
I get where they're coming from, I do. I'd make this country fascist to save my own friends and family.
We can't base policy on feelings though.
>>334255168
Is actually a neat concept provided the cylinders could be produced cheaply enough.
>>334255238
sauce
>>334255238
What's this from
>>334254774
>when the shit hits the fan and they're dealing with some nut running around in the streets, they get nervous. and instead of risking a fist fight that they might lose, they would rather shoot to kill.
Then they should reconsider their career choice. Ideally police officers should choose from those with the best composure, be better trained, rotated and of course compensated accordingly.
Knowing that legal representatives of the government may at any times shoot me in my face because he has a bad day really undermines my respect and increases distrust. Christ, in my country the streets aren't treated like open warfare grounds.
>>334254917
>that barrel mag is just an extention of the tube, where shells are usually stored in shotguns. also it is automatic shotgun, so i see this gas-tube that clearly is connected with mag.
For the shells to be moved from the drum magazine to the tube magazine would be impossible because the tube magazine has a spring at the front of it.
>i am not gun-nut in slightest, but can you pinpoint what exactly is wrong with this gun, weight distribution aside?
There is no reasonable way for a shell to be moved from the drum to the rear of the gun.
The chamber of the barrel has to be just forward of the ejection port and the shell has to be moved to behind the chamber for it to be put in there.
Also, there is zero room behind the ejection port for the bolt to move backwards into.
>>334255006
>Explain Chiraq
Yes ?
>>334255185
This is why I feel reassured that I share a shooting spot with some cops.
Because I know they at least know how to use their guns, now if only they'd pick up their damn brass.
>>334255337
>Knowing that legal representatives of the government may at any times shoot me in my face because he has a bad day
Dude get off the fucking internet for 5 minutes holy shit.
>>334255114
You do realize Europe's laughingstock is still better than the USA, right?
>>334255191
>Sure, so there's no need to miss on purpose
The use of warning gunfire seems like a threat neutralizer beneath shooting someone but above talking to someone who isn't compliant.
>>334255121
>actually start reading this
>"In Sizemore's opinion, there's no single best place to be shot. Ballistics -- the study of the projectiles, like bullets -- is too much of a gamble"
wew lad. thanks for the information
>European cops use warning shots
>google this
>about 12 million results for "not recommended". no immediate results for anyone ever saying otherwise in regards to Europeans
gonna need a citation on that.
anyways, heres this article i found that says its a bad idea
http://health.howstuffworks.com/human-body/parts/best-place-to-get-shot.htm
>>334255117
Dumbest picture I've ever seen.
>>334255376
what do you want ?
>>334255417
Not in America since everyone has a gun and you're legally allowed to shoot people on the street.
Even if it's a minor dispute, it's shoot or get shot.
>>334255305
The only cheap way I can think of is to use plastic, but they wouldn't be able to handle the pressure. A magazine is infinitely more practical, with negligible drawbacks.
>>334255401
>living near poor people
Everyone is poor in poland and they've learned to get along. In america there are things people don't have that other people are willing to die to get :^)
It always makes me smile when someone I was arguing with stops responding, educating idiots one reply at a time!
>>334255337
you're exaggerating, they won't shoot you just because they're having a bad day. they may shoot you if you are acting like a maniac and resisting arrest, which is what happened in that video. also not many people want to be police officers, most people who do it are no different from other blue collar workers. every now and then you get a military vet. but people with combat training are hard to come by, and the other aspects of their training cover the things that they will be doing 95% of the time.
>>334255168
>>334255221
>>334255295
>>334255305
its literally a part of the lore. those are ceremonial pistols for parades and shit. they were so desperate for fire arms they started converting them to live fire instead of blanks. ergo, they probably were not rimmed and therefor, the cases didnt eject properly with the ejector rod, or, it simply didnt have one. so its easier to pretty much wedge them in/glue it and just have multiple cylinders
the more you know
>>334255484
>Not in America since everyone has a gun
exaggeration
>you're legally allowed to shoot people on the street
depending on local law and individual situations
I had cops in mind anyway.
>>334255206
There's a video of an American sniper shooting the pistol out of a suicidal guy's hand, your point?
>>334255305
>Is actually a neat concept provided the cylinders could be produced cheaply enough.
No. Round things are more difficult to carry. Square magazines are more compact, carry more rounds and are probably faster to reload.
If it isn't 1863 you don't need to change the cylinder to reload fast.
>Cop stops a nignog
>Nignog chimps out and aggressively approaches police officer with a hand behind his back
>Cop takes step back, draws his gun, and tells the nog to show his hands
>Nog makes a drawing motion from behind his back and points his fingers like he was holding a gun
>Gets shot
>"HE DINDUNUFFING"
>"Cops kill because of finger gesture baka"
Kill everyone who sides with the dindu in that fucking video
>>334255630
Show me the video of a bobby executing an unarmed man.
>>334255401
>more likely to die as a baby
>make 60 percent less money
>7 percent less free time
>die 3 years earlier
>have less sex
>be 40 FUCKING PERCENT more likely to be jobless
>but your 80% less likely to be murdered
>as in, your chance could be .001%
>and your odds droped to .002% or such
thats fucking horrifying
Loading my clipazine.
>>334255401
>better
I don't think you understand the term.
>poorer
>can't afford gas or electricity
>no class divide, everyone is poor
>die younger than a 700lb landwhale, despite glorious European healthcare
>less free time
>less likely to be murdered, but will be murdered by Russians or Germans within the next 20-30 years anyway
>>334255593
Alright, but the way he flicks it is still retarded.
With an unsecured cylinder, he's likely to just hit himself in the face, and the way he spins it leaves it possible that it won't align with a chamber.
>>334255401
Those are literally nigger statistics.
>>334255449
>if you knew anything about guns you'd know every shot is a shot to kill
does not equal
>there's no single best place to be shot.
"People get shot in fatal areas and live, and others get shot in non-lethal areas and die,"
"Hearts can be repaired. There is such a thing as an artificial heart. But as far as I know there are no artificial brains."
"But the brain isn't necessarily the most lethal place to be shot. From 1982 to 1993, 66 percent of patients treated at Cook County Hospital in Chicago for gunshot wounds to the head survived"
"Based on their location and relative distance from vital organs, your hands or feet appear to be the best place to take a bullet. Getting shot in a foot or hand would certainly shatter most of the many bones there, and it would be an extremely painful experience, but it would pose little deadly threat. What's more, although you have plenty of bones there to shatter, the fragments are less likely to travel easily to your vital organs, like your heart. Plus, with your hands and feet as relatively thin as they are, a bullet also has a better chance of passing through your body before it transfers the full extent of its power. You might suffer a disability, but you'd be more likely to live through the experience."
You didn't even read the whole article, just found one sentence that was somewhat close to your stance and called it a day. You're not a dumb American, you're a dumb 4channer.
Also I see the mention of at least 4 instances of warning shots in my first google page:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/american-cops-lethal_us_565cde59e4b079b2818b8870
http://hudoc.echr.coe.int/app/conversion/pdf/?library=ECHR&id=001-83764&filename=001-83764.pdf&TID=thkbhnilzk
http://hrlc.org.au/failure-to-adequately-investigate-claim-of-excessive-police-force-a-violation-of-echr/
http://hudoc.echr.coe.int/app/conversion/pdf/?library=ECHR&id=003-2541693-2753471&filename=003-2541693-2753471.pdf&TID=ihgdqbxnfi
I think this is mexico or some other latin south america shithole.
>>334255006
>Explain Chiraq
What a man.
He didn't shit but he was a real human bean.
>>334255689
>Show me the video of a bobby executing an unarmed man.
Just because someone is unarmed it doesn't mean that they shouldn't be shot in self-defense.
There is something called theory of mind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_mind
Now realize that the police officer doesn't know everything you know in posterity about the situation. If a person presents a credible threat they can be taken down. A credible threat can be an unarmed person who is acting like they are armed. They give reasonable pretense to believe they are armed. The officer must act with that assumption.
>>334255872
Anon, that's a woman. It's not fair to judge any people by that.
>>334255401
80% less likely to be murdered doesn't matter if the statistic is already low. Lets assume this means that you are twice as likely not to die or be present in an event which would cause you to die.
double nothing is still nothing.taking a 0.002% chance down to 0.001% is nothing.
Everything else is fucking horrifying. 40% more likely to be unemloyed, when the unemployment rate for america is already abysmally low, and you make 60% less money. The money part isn't so much a problem as the average wage is fucking pennies in america, but still.
You gain 0.001% chance of living, over a loss of lifestyle, income and equality of opportunities.
I'd rather live in the US, and I'm australian.
>>334254417
Good thing he is aussie and could handle the banter
>>334256046
This can't be real, it's something you'd expect to see them post on April 1st.
>>334255938
>Just because someone is unarmed it doesn't mean that they shouldn't be shot in self-defense.
>>334256046
think about intent rather than the weapon lethality.
And yes you can still kill someone with a butterknife. #lurpakshakur
>>334256128
you ever been in a fight with a guy who is high on pcp, heavier and taller than you?
Why can't /pol/ stay in /pol/? How is this video games?
>>334255689
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3a2_1346852084
7 shots point blank back of head. turned out he was carrying a newspaper
so uh, where do we backtrack from here
>tfw lots of guns
>tfw a tenth the homicide rate of USA:ians thanks to registration
Americans don't know this feel.
>>334255974
Story?
>>334256251
>thanks to registration
Tell me your population, poverty level, and demographics
>>334253921
There is no more evil, corrupt and dangerous entity than the police
I would rather be in the custody of a drug dealer than those fucking pigs - at least if I die, my death will be investigated
>>334255825
how do you know its unsecured, and that it isnt designed to self align on the trigger pull, it being specifically designed to be safe to shoot in a parade or ceremonial event? its a science fiction game. thats a handwave away, "thank god for the one use latches" or something equally as meaningless
>>334256248
You just shot yourself in the foot, because now you can no longer claim regulation leaves you undefended.
>>334256179
Yeah, but I still love my dad.
>>334256273
got the bicycle wheel one?
>>334256251
or maybe it's thanks to the fact that you don't have half a billion people in your country, tens of millions of them immigrating from countries like el salvador and honduras.
>>334255885
Do you want a bunch of black examples? Come to one of our county jails or state prisons. FUCKING. ANY. Your puny yuro mind will be blown the fuck away.
>>334256324
100% islamic
>>334255870
>safest place
does not mean
>safe
sorry, try again. as per fucking stated, by YOUR source
>"In Sizemore's opinion, there's no single best place to be shot. Ballistics -- the study of the projectiles, like bullets -- is too much of a gamble"
>>334253921
Tasers for 1000$, Alex
>>334256308
>south america
drugs
>>334256324is this gun any good because it looks totally retarded
>>334256402
What website?
>>334256379
Just proving you wrong. Go ahead and rephrase your argument before you humiliate yourself any further.
>tfw not american
>tfw noguns
>>334254942
>being this fucking stupid
>>334254550
>shoot someone in the legs
>hit femoral artery
>they bleed out to death in minutes
This >>334254618
guy has it right.
>>334255870
>huffington post
top lel, the guys who argue agaisnt gun rights but carries guns themselves and their security gaurds because
well, guns are fucking helpful? oh well
as for the other two, nah, cant open them on my phone, sorry.
again, youve confused, safer, as safe. right after he stated that its literally, a gamble.
>>334256364
>half a billion people
:/ m8
>>334256402
kek
>>334256251
Where? Chances are our murder rate, even with all guns taken completely out of the equation, is higher than yours.
Americans are just more violent. We're plenty content to beat eachother to death if there are no guns available.
It's mostly due to niggers but not entirely. It's part of why we're so great. Europeans are pussies. Americans are dicks, and frankly we've been quite successful because of it.
>>334256128
Yeah. Just because someone is unarmed, it doesn't mean that lethal force can't be used. The officer, like all people, has a right to defend themselves. If a person gives reasonable indication that they are armed and about to attempt to harm, they are a credible threat and should be neutralized. Such as if they put their hand in their pocket and stand in such a way that suggests they are armed.
If someone is agitated and yells that they are going to get a gun, turns around and reach into the trunk of their car, they are a credible threat. Even if there was never a gun in the first place.
Theory of mind is something that most children develop by age 5. You should try to master it. The police officer does not know as much as you do about a situation because you have the benefit of posterity. He has to make a decision within seconds with scant information. You have days worth of investigation to look at.
>>334256329
Because he can drop the cylinder just by poping it out. And that simply isn't how revolvers work, like shutting a cylinder then spinning it. It's increasing the likelihood that you won't be able to fire.
And if they couldn't figure out a better way to reload than dropping a cylinder, they can't work out that kind of problem.
>>334256128
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=one+punch+kill
>>334255676
None of your
>implications
happened the way you described them in your video.
>"nignog" is running away from them with his hands spread out
>cop keeps approaching him
>there's no "drawing motion", he keeps his arms away from his tights at all times
Etc. etc.
>>334255156
>guiz if you don't get a lethal weapon those other guiz that don't respect teh law surely won't bother you
>>334255771
Plz anon, I'm not a gun-nut by any means but that gif hurts to watch
>>334256575
Americans are Europeans though. And Europeans have been killing each other practically non-stop for the past 2000 years.
>>334256567
we have more people living here than the entire european union combined. literally more people than an entire continent.
>>334256480
>Go ahead and rephrase your argument before you humiliate yourself any further.
I said it right the first time cuck and I can't humiliate myself because i'm anonymous. Anything else I can help you being wrong with today.
>all these people replying to the bait
>>334256460
>low recoil
>high capacity
>low weight
>light ammo
>difficult to maintenance
>a fraction the effective range of an m16
>other stuff i invite others to mention.
It's good for fun shooting and vidya not for war.
>>334256460
It's more needlessly complex than most german guns.
Let that sink in, then learn about Kraut Space Magic.
>>334253090
>>334254942
>>334256460
>is this gun any good because it looks totally retarded
Developed by a Germany company. It used caseless ammunition. Some of the mechanisms inside are insanely complex. It feeds from the rear, from a magazine mounted parallel with the barrel. The caseless ammunition has been a long time desired thing because of the weight saving of not using the brass cartridges.
The U.S. military trialed it for adoption as a service rifle. They did not accept it. It's an interesting but flawed design.
>>334256576
You can't kill someone just for being threatening.
>>334256713
Yes, but not half a billion people. 314 mil+ is still not half a billion people.
>>334256798
>IM GONNA BLOW UP THE ENTIRE BLOCK WITH THESE EXPLOSIVES
>lel its just a threat
>BREAKING NEWS, 142 DEAD IN CITY BLOCK EXPLOSION
>>334255974
Brutal
I never understood why police here wear green uniforms instead of the classic blue most police forces wear.
Also, why are they called carabineers? They used to carry carbines at some point?
>>334256798
>You can't kill someone just for being threatening.
...Actually you can. And it's better than taking the chance that the crazy, pacing, yelling guy in front of you with his hand behind his back that just said "IMMA STAB YOU BITCH!" "WITH MY KNIFE!" is just joking.
>>334256797
>mfw some other dude just hollowed out the inside of the bullets and put the propellant there and invented, and used caseless ammunition before the germans did
>>334256808
so what? have you ever had a conversation outside of the internet? sometimes people slightly exaggerate numbers so they don't have to say the exact amount. and in 20 years it will be half a billion people.
If britcucks still had guns, then Rotterham and the literally thousands of other cases of child sex slavery couldn't have happened
The parents could have went in and executed all the son of bitches after their corrupt pigs refused to do anything
>>334256860
>Wooow how was I supposed to know I can't shoot children
>>334256860
>I'M GONNA KILL YOU WHEN I GET MY HANDS ON YOU
*one shooting later*
>WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU DONE JOHNSON, SHE WAS JUST ANGRY AT HER KID FOR JOYRIDING IN HER CAR!?!!??!
>>334256496
>tfw retards listen to 4chan instead of their own countries laws
Name one country where it is illegal to own ANY gun, the overwhelming majority are just heavily regulated. A lot of the cool guns are banned in a lot of places, but guaranteed you can still legally get a shotgun or a .243 Rifle to shoot rabbits and shit with.
>>334256708
>Americans are Europeans
Nah, we're something else. A little crazier, a little more violent, a little less content, a little more belligerent. There's no American alive whose culture lines up with a European.
>And Europeans have been killing each other practically non-stop for the past 2000 years.
And they're finally tired of it. At least for now.
>dislike guns
>think they aren't really needed
>eventually get curious about them
>go with dad to one of his friends' houses, he's really desperate for money, so he sells me a hi-point .45 for about $80, no questions or forms to fill out
>grandfather/father take me out to shoot
>full course about firearm safety
>emphasize never to aim the weapon at anything you are not willing to destroy
>emphasize to always keep ammunition and the firearm in separate conditions
>always keep the weapons pointed at the ground or on a table whilst waiting to fire/etc
>basically respect the damn thing you're holding, it fires bullets that are designed to kill
>very scared of the gun, but I'm shown how to load and fire it
>endd up being a really fun experience
>If you've never owned or fired a firearm you seriously need to, it will change your opinion really quick.
>nothing compares to the feeling of the recoil and seeing that whatever you just fired at now has a hole in itit means fuckall now that I keep the firearm stashed in my room, easy access and always loaded, nobody knows where it is but I can reach it from where I am sleeping, what's funny is I don't really feel any safer but at least I know I can defend myself now.
>>334256308
in order to fight crime, cops increased the punishment for crimes higher and higher. eventually, simple theft was punishable by on the spot executions. now, if you know you can be killed for just stealing a doughnut, when you DO steal the doughnut, are you going to leave any witnesses?
nope. moral of the story, stop wondering why crime is so bad if you create an enviroment where anything worth more then a buck is worth murdering over. you think people are going to STOP stealing food to survive, if they are just gonna die anyway? fuck no. they will take the loaf, and because of self preservation instincts, cap the owners.
>>334256989
I looked it up. gun laws here are sort of heavily regulated and expensive.
>>334256478
filename
>>334256886
>I never understood why police here wear green uniforms instead of the classic blue most police forces wear.
Probably to give a threatening army look.
>Also, why are they called carabineers? They used to carry carbines at some point?
Policing in the countryside used to be done in many places by dragoons, gendarmes, carabiniers, carabinari, etc. Dudes riding horses. Horsemen always carried carbines because a longer gun is a big hassle on horseback.
>>334256928
Of couse, but I've been on /his/ for a while. Being wrong by over 100 million is an issue.
>>334256557
What if they don't hit the femoral artery? Not every gunshot is lethal, as evidenced in the very same source the guy is quoting in a vain attempt at proving me wrong.
>>334256562
>huffington post
I just showed you that warning shots are part of the normal European police procedure - which is exactly what we were "arguing" about. What are you rambling on about and how is that relevant?
>right after he stated that its literally, a gamble.
If every shot is a shot to kill then it's not a gamble.
>>334257047
Punishment doesn't exist. Nobody benefits from punishment. Law enforcement is all about the two Rs, Rehabilitation or Removal.
Usually a court of law is more qualified at deciding between the two than you and your handgun.
>>334257083
Learn about anatomy, targeting, and bullet expansion.
>>334257076
and you probably took the number from the census from 6 years ago, so you are also wrong. now go suck a bag of dicks.
To all the people who actually argue against guns, explain this to me
How is it that even though gun sales in America have continued to grow since the 90s, overall violent crime has gone down? Also, if the advancements of gun technology have become more and more dangerous, why has there not been a school shooting/massacre in America that ended with more fatalities than Bath School in 1927?
>>334257190
b-because the news said so
>>334257124
Not for normies
All they care about is revenge
They see a criminal, they want them to suffer and die
>>334257190
crazy fucker used explosives for the bath school disaster, not guns.
>>334257001
I was the same anon
>tfw riding around in a 4WD at 1am spotlighting Rabbits and Kangaroos with a 12 gauge pointing out every window
I really want an O/U Short barrelled 12 guage now.
>>334257050
Where's here?
>>334257069
Thats makes sense
>>334257243
And anyone can go buy fertilizer. 5 minutes of google and you got yourself a bomb.
I know nothing about guns, but are guns really as inaccurate as they are in video games?
And what about reload times, when you take the magazine out of the glock does it always take super long to put it back in with all bullets inside the magazine?
>>334257190
I'll answer if you can explain to me why school shootings have increased 5000% the last two decades without guns being the issue.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States
>>334257291
>>334257291
The police tracks and registers anyone who uses the internet for bomb recipes.
Gunfags are literally special snowflakes.
>>334257083
A bullet doesn't just make a clear hole through your flesh and bone anon, I remember reading a story about a woman who miraculously survived being shot by a pistol at point blank in a carjacking, the article went on with research saying that a point blank shot with a weasly 9mm will tear up all the flesh and arteries from the entry point into an orange sized sphere. Imagine what higher caliber bullets can do to you from any range?
I don't know what the term is for the damage but hopefully some /k/ommando can steer you in the right way.
>>334257143
How is this relevant to the "discussion" at hand? Would it tell me anything new compared to the source I just provided?
Or maybe you should, for once, provide a valid source of your insane "every shot is a shot to kill" claims?
>>334257083
no, you didnt, actually, the article mostly talked about spain. i mean, besides the fact the huffington is hypocrites to begin with, and all.
>If every shot is a shot to kill then it's not a gamble.
exactly. why? well, heres a man with a knife killing a cop who wouldnt shoot first because "they might kill him".
https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtectAndServe/comments/3y2r67/one_police_officer_killed_one_critical_after/
oh, and heres another of an american cop getting wasted because he was being disciplined for being too triggy happy. you can hear the brain damage kicking in after a small cavity is made in his skull.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1150706/WARNING-GRAPHIC-Police-officer-shot-dead-Vietnam-veteran.html
and you know what, what if, when you saw a cop pull a gun, you...stopped committing a crime. i mean, if you know your going to die, why keep goi-oh, right, because since you cant just shoot criminals, they have a chance to get away.
hmmm. funny that.
>>334257001
>>If you've never owned or fired a firearm you seriously need to, it will change your opinion really quick.
>Pretending his opinion is universal
In NZ we don't have any gun culture, literally at all. It's only in USA and South America that it's almost mainstream to jack off to guns and the idea of shooting things/people.
I say that because I've done exactly what you describe, here in school trips you're taken out to a rifle range, you learn about guns, you learn about shooting. I fired a .22 and .303 then as a young teenager, spent an afternoon trying different ammo, enjoyed watching my tracer bullets fly through the air and even learned how retarded "Gangsta style" pistol shooting is for trying to actually hit anything. Some years later my dad brought a slug gun and I used it to ping at cans or such every now and then when bored.
And I still have zero desire to own a gun or to fire anything more than a novelty (might be fun to try a bazooka or AK47 once sometime, could check that out next time I'm in Thailand).
Gun culture in America is literally fucking crazy. And your wacked out belief that "You just need to try it mang!" is both stupid and a really blatant "No true scotsman."
>>334257304
Psychiatric drugs
>>334257292
Some guns are more accurate than other, and there's a lot of factors involved.
And reload time is mostly personal. I don't see why the amount of bullets in the mag would matter much.
>>334257304
Honestly, I can't explain why the rate has increased so much, maybe kids are getting the wrong ideas thanks to bad influences over the internet, but if these kids didn't have access to guns and really wanted to kill, they would have found another weapon like a knife
>>334257246
3rd world shitholePhilippines
we still got plenty of WWII firearms though
>>334257304
because attendance of schools and quantity of schools increased by about 5000%, as well as minumum required attendence and such.
>>334255298
Why not base them on the fact that they work?
>>334254239
Nice sourced facts.
>>334257292
>I know nothing about guns, but are guns really as inaccurate as they are in video games?
No. Try out Arma 3. It's not perfect but pretty accurate.
A standard m4 like the US army uses is effective out to 500m. Meaning a trained shooter is expected to be able to shoot things at 500m. You can go well past that range, but the 5.56 round loses shitloads of power and fails to fragment, meaning you're basically shooting .22's, which isn't all that effective. A really good shooter could make shots at 800m though.
That's not even a specialized long-distance rifle, it's a short, carbine length rifle with a round hardly designed for long distance shooting.
>and what about reload times, when you take the magazine out of the glock does it always take super long to put it back in with all bullets inside the magazine?
No. You can reload very quickly if properly trained.
>>334257304
>overall gun deaths go down
>even through an economic recession
>even through the expiration of a national assault weapons ban
>school shootings go up
Clearly the issue isn't guns. The issue is, and has already been recognized before, the goddamn news. Copycat attacks are hardly an unknown phenomenon. Glorifying school shooters and reporting on them 24/7 is bound to have an effect.
>>334257501
>I don't know what the term is for the damage but hopefully some /k/ommando can steer you in the right way.
I think it's called wound cavitation.
>>334253867
>caring about niggers
>>334257540
Just like in the Netherlands, right?
>>334257567
Just like in Europe, right?
>>334257648
Just like in Europe, right?
>>334257692
Just like in Europe, right?
How about I rephrase it as this - How come America is the only country in the world to see school shootings on a weekly basis?
>>334255238
>they're white and not migrants
nah m8
>>334257527
>one in four
>no gun culture
lel
![[freedom ringing in the distance].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BzGOMG0.jpg "[freedom ringing in the distance].jpg")
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>>334257292
>can AWP fags like nothing in CS
>first time using a Scoped Rifle
>use my brother in laws .243 with Scope to try and shoot a beer can 100 metres away
>whoah this gun is heavy to hold dead straight
>rest it on something
>try and line up shot
>crosshair is moving all over the place despite breathing slow and trying to keep it still
>try and AWP it like I do in CS JUST as the crosshair moves onto beer can
>gunshot sounds EXACTLY like the AWP sound
>shot landed a foot below it
I have a newfound respect for people hunting and target shooting with scopes, shit is pretty hard to get used to, for a newbie anyway.
