Metacritic score:58
every critic is gonna bitch about how its 4 hours long.
76
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>>333924709
What. Critics are all over short games like Gone Home, Firewatch and Undertale.
>>333924709
4 hrs onrail shooter game.. quite dissapointing honestly.
>>333924996
Star Fox Zero isn't gonna have some deep underlying message that appeals to all audiences :)
>60
>Too short
>Too hard
>Controls take time to get used to
>Too much water
>>333924709
more like bitch about how much worse it is than 64 and that the controls are dogshit
It probably deserves a 60
Its nothing but Starfox 64 rehashed with motion controls
I'm expecting low to mid 80s
>>333924342
>We could have gotten a game that expanded on Assault's great foundation
>LOL here's another 64 rehash
Fuck you Miyamoto.
>>333926640
I understand both miyamoto´s and your view.
He is just detached from what hardcore fans want because he sees everyone as a casual and Im sure he hates otaku/fans
>>333924709
Okay? That's fine, considering they're charging full price for the game, and the part of the game with actual replayability, Starfox Guard is being released as a separate purchase and download.
>>333924709
SIXTY DOLLARS
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i guess it's because i haven't played the originals and not a nostalgia faggot but this honestly looks shit
and i really really want to buy a new wii u game
>e3 trailer is shown, unenthused
>clips start popping up a couple months ago, anticipation gradually builds
>see the ending earlier tonight, literally the sf64 ending reskinned
>>333924342
The shilling for this shit over the past few weeks has been really sad.
>>333926987
Link to the ending pls
Or spoil it
>>333926640
Was Assault actually good? I recall some reviews shitting on itI enjoyed Star Fox Adventures
>>333927036
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFj2rtH0mF8
Holy fuck could nintendo drop the ball any harder?
The Wii at least had some games.
Fuck this is the worst console ive ever seen and ive played most since the early 90's
What the fuck
>>333927121
it has a good first and last mission, the rest of it is janky and very meh
Why is nintendo so afraid to move their franchises forward?
Watch metroid NX turning out to be a metroid 1 remake
>>333927121
I personally liked it. A lot of people bitched about krystal being in it, lackluster story, and too many ground missions. Honestly I couldn't give less of a fuck as I don't feel it negatively impacted the game as much as people think it did
Honestly my only problems were that it was a tad short and not as much replayability due to it being story focused. adn my only gameplay complaint was the tank-like controls for the ground.
If you like starfox games, you ought to give it a go and come up with your own opinion.
>>333927152
The Wii had the best library of its generation, Im still playing it.
WiiU has fucking nothing, I mean it has 3-4 games that are decent but they are not system sellers.
>>333927121
I love Assault, yes even the on foot missions.
There isn't a metascore yet OP.
>>333924996
Starfox isn't $15.
>shit graphics
>unstable framerate
>3 hours long
>$60
No thanks.
>>333927712
At least use valid complaints. the game is meh but not for those lies
>>333927775
They're all true.
>>333927121
All-range mode for Landmaster was a good idea, the issue was the on-foot sections needing more polish. Could've used more arwing only missions, I think there ended up only being 3 total.
>>333924996
>>333924996
Star Fox is an actual game though. It's a short game full of replayable gameplay of the kind that doesn't appeal to them.
>>333927356
>woooo why did they change everything
>why don't they just a graphical update to this game
It is impossible to please everybody anon.
>>333927828
Graphics are decent
Framerate is still above most console releases these days
It takes 10 hours to unlock and beat every stage
I give you the price
>>333927882
There is this thing called gradual increments
You should pay Dragon Quest some time, keep adding stuff while preserving the core gameplay
>>333927356
Your mentality is the issue that leads to the problem your complaining about. Why should they be focusing on their 'franchises' in the first place rather than creating new good games?
You can't even argue this shit based upon business anymore since sequels and reboots are failing all over the place and Splatoon was one of their most successful titles.
>>333927828
the framerates is around 50-60, was that supposed to be bad? at least its not 30 and below
>>333927146
So safe, so boring.
>>333927951
Maybe you should play it too anon.
DQ also removes some features.
>>333927895
>Graphics are decent
lolno They're shit even for Wii U graphics.
>Framerate is still above most console releases these days
I expected the framerate to be a solid 60fps because of the shit graphics, not 40-60fps.
>It takes 10 hours to unlock and beat every stage
And that means having to keep replaying the same stages over and over again. Aritifial length. The true length is 3 hours.
>>333928040
>Why should they be focusing on their 'franchises' in the first place rather than creating new good games?
Its very easy to have both you know
>>333927146
>actually feeling the nostalgia all over again at that last scene
>running in the sunset scene comes up
>mfw chicken walkers
I don't know what I expected.
>>333928081
Such as?
>>333928108
>And that means having to keep replaying the same stages over and over again. Aritifial length. The true length is 3 hours.
Clearly you've never played a SHMUP before.Half the longevity of these types of games is replaying levels to get higher scores and beat records.
>>333927895
>Graphis are decent
It literally looks like a phone game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNdQBY60Ru8
>>333928048
>50-60
So, what would you want in a Star Fox game?
So no Pepper is evil?
No Andross back story?
They just play SF64 completely straight?
What a fucking joke
funny how all these racists tranny lovers discuss and decided if something is good or not . fuck off assholes
>>333928414
Assault with online multiplayer and 50 single player missions that mix gameplay from all the previous games.
Should have integrated guard into the main game too somehow
Or anything other than another SF64 remake now with worse controls
>>333928424
The game deserves to be shat on you shill.
>>333928187
>no class system in VIII
>monster park only featured in VII
>IX only have 13 classes
>Vehicle in V gone forever
>all this damage control
Good. Pandering to a vocal minority of nostalgiafags by rehashing a 20 year old game's story and forcing gimmicks with only gamepad as the controller and no online should tell you how stuck in the past Miyamoto is. When will he just fuck off?
>>333928660
8 didnt have class system because they wanted to focus on the story
monsters belong in the monster games which has only received improvements game after game
Class system was overhauled in 9 with skill points, 7 was a mess with this
No idea what you mean with vehicle
You are just nitpicking anyways, that wasnt even my original point.
>>333928414
from the looks of this thread nobody wants starfox to be a rehash of assault which had horrible controls on foot and terribly slow in the air. For what it's worth SFZ is a step in the right direction.
>>333927146
>no ominous laughing Andross silhouette
>fucking chicken walkers
Someone put Miyamoto in one of those forced retirement spots already Jesus Christ
>>333928824
Is a step backwards
>>333927882
>tfw all I really want is a Super Metroid remake with 3d graphics or at least cool high resolution 2d graphics
>Nintendo constantly has opportunities to make new, more mature IPs to appeal to modern gaming sensibilities
>Instead they rehash childrens games from the N64 era.
>>333924342
I'm actually surprised that so many on /v/ are looking forward to this. It looks fucking underwhelming.
>>333928701
Meanwhile sony shits out:
-rachet and clack reboot/rehash
-another uncharted rehash
-still more CoD and assassins creed
-squabbling over souls rehash 4 vs 5
-rumors of a crash bandicoot remake like star fox64 remake
-DMC remake a few years back
yes, clear only Miyamoto does this and puts no effort into it. Let's just forget that without Miyamoto's input you're little splatton pic wouldn't even exist.
>>333929116
To be fair, that's all people want in general, like >>333929245 said.
It's not even limited to vidya, movies lately are just that as well. Star Wars, Jurassic World, capeshit, more Harry Potter, more Terminator, etc.
People just want what they grew up with for the nostalgia rush.
>>333929215
It looks like it's gonna be classic starfox
Cheesy banter
Charming characters
Arcade shootan
And new gameplay looks pretty dope compared to the Corneria gameplay that was shown once and over again.
>>333924938
Not bad, anon. I guess it's that kind of night.
>>333929443
Not to mention the music sounds fantastic.
>>333928869
Yeah, after Adventures, Assault, and Command, a step backwards is in the right direction.
>graphics are outdated
>story is cheesy
>too hard
>too short
Meanwhile they'll be sucking off Uncharted 4 and Gone Home 3 and The Walking Dead Season 3 and whatever the next flavor of the month pixel indie game is with both hands.
Games today don't "count" unless they're part of the AAA hype or indie masturbation zeitgeist.
>>333930294
Uncharted is more of a game than Starfox remade by a meme developer
>>333927121
It's a shitty game, but like with everything as soon as a new game comes out everyone shits on it and suddenly loves a past game they had previously shit on.
See: Twilight Princess as soon as Skyward Sword came out, Mario Sunshine as soon as 3D World came out, and so on.
>>333930615
No it's really not. Uncharted is meme Tomb Raider.
>>333930294
Don't forget the neon pink!
>>333924342
Fuck Metacritic, judge for yourself.
>>333930294
Why you so mad, nintendobaby?
>>333928239
but phone graphics are decent nowadays. Stop being a stereotypical Sony goy that put the brand and hardware type before the actual content.
>ITT: Assaultfags crying they haven't got their mediocre groundfox rehash instead
and they come on /v/ hoping their opinion to be held high as almighty
fucking pathetic
>>333931207
Isn't that what 4Chan is for?
>>333930760
Neo-Tomb Raider is meme Uncharted. Uncharted predates memes
>>333931207
>robertson
kek
didn't he claim the game was getting another delay cause of NoE, then backpedal and say it's gonna be shit when proven wrong?
>>333928416
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XkulJbiFJY
what nigga?
>>333928414
make it like Mass Effect
![[a] thinks they still rule this place.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wN9wD5Y.jpg "[a] thinks they still rule this place.jpg")
>>333931341
/v/ isn't all of 4chan so not always
>>333931439
>yfw you don't destroy gigarilla because you need to use it in the final battle with Andross in the project Robot gameplay fashion
>>333924709
I fucking wish that would be twice as long as 64
>>333924342
Cons
>No online multiplayer
>half baked co-op option
>The helicopter vehicle levels look teidus
>Forced gyro controls
>Not solid 60fps
Pros
>physical copy comes bundled w/guard
>cool amiibo vehicles + unconfirmed unlockables
>game looks a lot better than E3 build
>seems to have a lot of replay value
>>333931651
>no title
>no legend
>no source
Nice circle you got there, jackass.
>>333927419
so the standard nintedoh library isnt worth playing on wii u?
Wew what about pikmin 3 and mario shart 8 and whatever smash bros
>>333932053
>Amiibo as a positive
Agree on the other points though
>>333932105
go to /qa/
>before star fox zero was announced
>why cant they just make a game exactly like sf64 and stop with the gimmicks!
>they do exactly that
>it's shit, too short, why isnt it like assault!
I dont even own a wii u nor did I even play a single star fox game, but why is this industry full of fucking idiot consumers?
This is literally what I have seen over the past 5 years on this place and other places over the web.
>>333931651
>/pol/ that big
The cancer is spreading.
>>333924342
Probably even less
It seems like utter trash
>people care about graphical fidelity
Get fucked.
The mechanics look tight. The artstyle is nice. What exactly is the issue here?
>>333931651
Where is this data coming from? And why the fuck is /trash/ bigger than half the boards?
>>333930149
>Yeah, after Adventures, Assault, and Command, a step backwards is in the right direction.
All three were below average at best. Command basically killed the series.
>>333931651
>that /tg/ size
Slow and comfy
>>333924342
nah itll be 77/78
the nintendo fansites will prop it up to at least 70+
>>333932292
I mean it does suck having to use them in the first place, but if you own them already and have been using them in other games, it's good news.
>>333927152
>>333927419
>Wii U has no gaems or only 3 - 4 decent games
I can count at least 6 decent to great games on the platform.
>Sm4sh
>Splatoon
>Mario Maker
>MK8
>Fatal Frame
>Bayo 2
That's as far as I'm gonna go despite having more to list because I know you'll both just say
>implying those are good
The real complaints about Starfox Zero will be journos not taking the time to learn the controls as Gamexplain mentioned receiving phone calls from fellow journos on asking how to play the game well.
>>333931428
He never said it was gonna be shit. He said a lot of people aren't gonna like the controls, which he's right, and NoE pushed hard for another delay to 'fix' them.
>>333933685
Not getting a good grip on the controls after the tutorial and the first few levels is fine, but playing half way through the game without enjoying it solely due to control issues is dog shit and lacks intuitivity. I dont want to defend babby journalists, but they often put the consumer before themselves.
>>333925828
But it's just like Gone Home and Firewatch in how it preys on feelings of nostalgia for the 90s and 80s!
In all seriousness it's going to catch shit for that adjustment period at the start thanks to the new controls, and the matter of how long it might take to master it. A lot of reviewers are starved for time and patience as it is, and some of them really really hate having to play video games in order to write or talk about them.
>>333924709
And rightfully so. There's a reason they're shipping a seperate mini game with it. Same reason why TP HD has an Amiibo packed in.
i still cant belive they have the gaul to charge more than $20 for a hd remake of starfox 64.
>>333934336
>The Last of Us HD
Can't say it doesn't work.
>>333927121
On foot missions.
When you touch the ground in Star Fox the game becomes shit. Landmaster missions are shit, Adventures was shit, Assault was shit and the chicken mode will most likely be shit.
I'm mad they rewrote the dialog
>>333928515
>everything is shit
welcome to 2016
>>333935132
>You're good,but not good enough
>>333929116
and other companies don't make enough of those?
>>333926431
a lot of people don't understand but this is exactly what starfox zero is. we aren't getting a starfox 64 2. we are getting a remaster of starfox 64 with a few added gimmicks like an air to land mode and motion controls. and of course a few extra bosses.
They actually dedicated this to Iwata. They don't specify his name in particular but in the credits it says "Dedicated to our wingman who fell in battle"
Now they could mean they dedicate it to the Wii U since it's dead after this year, but that would be in poor taste.
They dedicated a rehash to a dead man.
That's pretty sad.
>>333924709
It's sixty fucking dollars.
>>333930615
>plays like a slowed down game from the 90's
>linear levels
>but it's okay, it has top notch writing and acting and dem gfx
truly the future
>>333935502
It's dedicated to James McCloud idiot
>Fewer areas than 64
>b-but version 2 of planets, like Corneria at sunset!
Jesus Christ are they fucking serious?
>>333935502
James McCloud.
>>333935595
>>333935694
It's obviously to Iwata you idiots, games aren't dedicated to dead fictional characters
>>333930294
>Complaining about cheese story
>Fucking Star Fox
If you want story Star Fox is probably the wrong series
>>333935661
Source on fewer areas faggot
where were you when wolf died?
>>333928414
Pretty much Zero but with multiplayer dog fights. Or if they plan on revisiting Assault's style of play then retool on foot entirely and make the story mode not 10 missions long.
>>333935962
reminds me of one of those leggo games when they have an explosion.
shit one of those magical fireball explosions that hide how shitty of an animation that they cant do would be better.
>>333928414
>No motion controls
>Sequel to 64 and Adventures that ignores Assault
>Orchestra soundtrack (like Assault) that includes Assault tracks and SF64 covers and new music
>Online and LAN multiplayer. With good maps.
>Krystal IF no stupid romance
>Keep all the Star Fox Assault voices actors away from it all costs
>Keep Panther
>New Antagonist
>No Gyrowing
>Miyamoto has no input
>Platinum has full creative control
>>333935961
Look at the fucking map on the official site
Those alt paths they show don't lead to all new planets or zones, they just change the color of the planet you are on.
are we really delving so deep into role play threads these days or did I miss something? What eceleb told the game is bad now?
>>333924342
why everything with zero as a second title is shit
is it because they've put ZERO effort?
>>333936223
we saw the gameplay and our eyes and own minds did a knee jerk review.
>>333935418
>gimmicks
no wonder games are so flat these days. You won't accept anything that isn't "inventory/jump/roll/attack" without crying at gimmicks.
>>333934034
>I dont want to defend babby journalists, but they often put the consumer before themselves
is this gonna save wii u?
>>333934765
At least TLOU HD contains all of the DLC, 60FPS and is actually a very good looking game.
>>333936281
we saw the gameplay a while ago though. Or are you only allowed online on sunday?
>>333935961
SF64 has 15 levels, each on a different area.
SFZ has 11 areas but double the amount of levels. The levels are also longer since they're split into multiple missions.
>>333936375
its monday brah
>>333936313
you know instead of designing a game to be fast and fun they just had to use the gyro control to be "different"
we have that pro controller, that one that is collecting dust, that would have been perfectly acceptable to use.
but no, nintendo has to be special and different, just like using a hammer to paint a mural on a glass bottom boat.
Really hyped for it.
>still no music rips
I want that Star Wolf theme
>>333928414
Pretty much Zero if I'm going to be honest. It lets me aim and move in different directions. I can't believe it took this long to do this.
>>333936347
Too bad none of that stops it from being a mediocre game that puts it's generic "muh feels" story before its gameplay.
sooooo is this like the star wars ep 4-6 remake rerelease of videogames?
>>333928843
>laughing silhouette
>this nigga never beat Venom's hard path
>>333936994
Oh I have, multiple times, but I doubt that guy already did so
>>333936313
Fuck you. as the self proclaimed biggest star fox fan it's fucking disgusting the gymnastics you fags do to justify getting star fox 64 which was just star fox snes with better graphics and a few more features again and again and again. when the fuck do I get a new punch out or a new star fox instead of just constantly shitting on me and my wallet with this fake sequel shit and shitty spinoff shit.
Why couldn't they just make another on rails shooter with cool shit without having to rip pages out of the old playbook just to be sure they were making a safe enough decision. I've already played star fox 64 countless times and the formula isn't even that fucking hard. fucking capcom shat out some on rails RE shooters in a year.
>>333936879
This will be the first thing i do once someone makes a scene release.
i want my goddamn OST damnit
>First Nintendo-made Star Fox in 20 years
>It's literally Star Fox 64 HD
>The only unique part is an eShop minigame + Amiibos
>>333938087
Like StarFox 64 was the first one on SNES but with 64 bits?
>Muh Neo Nintendo
