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Is this shit really as good as you guys say? It can't be
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Is this shit really as good as you guys say?
It can't be that good.
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It's fun at least.
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It is for the first, well however long it takes you to beat O&S.

Then its questionable at best until the DLC.
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Playing it now may not yield the same results as playing it during the height of its popularity. The game is still a great singleplayer experience up to and including Anor Londo (which is over halfway through the game).

Part of the appeal of the Souls series is pvp/pve are intertwined. If you struggle with part of the game, you can summon people to help you. The moment you open yourself up to co-op other players can also invade and hinder your progress. This aspect of the game will be limited to you because online is not nearly as active now.
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>>333892710
It's been meme'd to death and ruined by fans hyping it up as the fucking epitome of interactive mediums. I know people that are completely uninterested in playing it because they are convinced it's a game that is just hard for the sake of being hard and genuinely belive the game makes anyone rage and that's the whole apeal. It's a very well made game and does things that make it very satisfying to get better at and do repeat playthroughs off. If you look for it it's got some really well implemented subtle themes about overcoming obstacles and defying the inevitability of death for the sake of living one more day. It has a plot and lore that's fun to talk about because it's not just full of holes but "holes that are fun to fill" in in discussions and come up with theories. The game play allows for a lot more freedom than other games these days and nothing is shoved down your throat and you never have to follow and objective marker. If you get good at it you'll feel it, you'll find yourself flying through the game killing bosses and looking like a fucking bad ass doing it with any weapon you want. The problem is if that it's got the undertake problem where it's been flooded with meme'd that don't actually convey the tone of the game and make it out to be something it's not. People like vattii are nice but it turns into shit like TOP 5 THINGS YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT DARK SOULS. The way they marketed ds3 with that abysmal t shirt design and vhs trailer shows how bad it's gotten. At this point you might not like it simply because all of us have over hyped it and spammed memes that don't say anything about the game any deeper than a puddle. I think you should try it. If you're on pc get a controler. It's worth a shot.
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How are there people on /v/ who haven't played this game yet? Its literally all /v/ could talk about for years.
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>>333892710
No, but its at least worth checking out
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>>333892710
Yeah, it's really fun. Don't let autistic console-warring and retarded minmaxing fuckers convince you otherwise. Shit's enjoyable and pretty unique.
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its pretty interesting / ambitious for game made in 2011.

I had a blast my first time.

then i played it 6 more times after that
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>>333892710

It's not. It's not even the best in the series in any respect beyond NPCs and world interconnection. Music is good I guess. Builds quality/volume are similar to DeS, which is good.

>Same online connectivity as DeS, worse than DkS3.
>Worse PvP than DeS, DkS3.
>Less consistent level design than BB, DkS3.
>Worse bosses than BB, DkS3.
>Second worst series final boss.
>Worse enemies than BB, DkS3.
>Worse narrative than BB.
>Worst weapons/movesets in the series.
>Poise spoils the gameplay, and is easily the most poorly implemented mechanic in the series' history.
>Worst BS spam in the series.
>Kick is useless.
>Covens are shit.
>Worse NG+ than DkS2/DkS3.
>Game gives up halfway through.
>Consumables are strictly worse than BB/DkS3.
>Spells and ranged are game-breakingly overpowered, on par with DeS.
>Tons of other shit.
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I refuse to play it. I can't even get better than 30FPS due to their shit optimization. It's not even in 1920x1200.
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>>333896415
>2016
>still using the "it has to be 60FPS to be playable" meme
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>>333896682
>2016 still thinking advancements should be banned
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>>333896415
FPS faggots are the actual biggest cancer in gaming, look at this retarded fucker right here and hang your head because there is no hope
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I hope there will someday be a dsfix update that fixes the bonfire glitch. I leave the framerate unlocked so blighttown won't be a slow mess, but still kept at 30 fps. Still has a glitch where you stay at the bonfire if you quickly get up after getting humanity/or kindling. Easy to avoid if you just wait a few seconds but still irritating.
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>>333897381
I thought I was the only one who had that issue. Happens in the parish for me which blows because of how often that bonfire is used. Feels almost like an alternative firelink shrine.
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>>333896172
>kick is useless

This doesn't belong here ;_;
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Honestly took a while to figure the game out, but I've had more fun and more tense heartpounding moments with this game than any others since I was a wee lad.
This was a while after release on console so YMMV
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>>333892710
It's good until you beat bert & ernie, but most of /v/ didn't make it that far because they are casual PCucks.
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>>333897810
>stuck on opie & anthony on my slvl1 run
Seriously fuck that shit. Still proud I got that far at least
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>>333896415
>being too stupid to unlock the framerate
you don't deserve a PC
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Souls Dogma when
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>>333896415
Dsfix
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Its an amazing game and the pinnacle of action RPGs
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Certified good game, whether or not it's "as good as you guys say" completely depends on what guys you're talking about and what they're saying, because /v/ isn't one person and opinions vary. Just fucking try it if you want to know.
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This post exactly is why people end up hating shit. Demon's and then Dark Souls provided what was a new, unique experience to many players. The difficulty, the gameplay, the build variety, the lore, the art and monster design. It just scratched the right itch and has ridiculous replayablity. Hence the large fanbase that just keeps growing.

It is NOT godly game that will sweep you off your feet. If you're new to the series it'll probably knock you on your ass and piss you off instead. then you'll come back to /v/ with some THIS GAME IS FUCKING SHIT a bloo bloo bloo threads.
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NFL tried to rip it off
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No, it is hyped as fuck, specially now that it has been casualized to hell: you can no longer PVP against anyone or unsuspecting players whenever you wish. Where is the fun in that? Is this supposed to be PVP?

Most of all the hype is shitposting and sonnyniggers trolling mustards and viceversa. You can completely ignore this game, not missing anything world changing.
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>dsfix gives me silky smooth 60fps
>glitches out the ass

Welp, that was fun while it lasted.
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>>333896415
DSFix you cuck
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>>333896172
>not knowing what kick is for
So you just watched DSP and Pewdiepie play instead?
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>>333898973
>he thinks dark souls is focused on PVP/should be played multiplayer for that matter

This has to be ironic shitposting
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>>333895204
I avoided it because I was pretty jaded about the Armored Core thing. I'm trying to play through it now, not having much fun. Though I haven't really gone beyond skeletons yet. I've heard you need to look up a guide, but I hate doing that shit. Not having much fun exploring either. Going to keep going for maybe another 10 hours of game time. If it doesn't get better. Fuck it. Git gud or not, I ain't about boredom.
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>>333899050
Some people say this a lot. I honestly can't remember ever running into any glitches using DSFix. The only issue I had with it was a few jumps that aren't necessary, and to do them you can just hit backspace to switch to 30fps, then switch back after doing the jump.
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>>333899584
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>>333899902
>avoid the graveyard

This guide is shit
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>>333899289
I think he just means the pvp is a bigger part of the game than people think. Getting invaded and helping real players is really fun. Honorabu duels aside it's tense as hell on your first playthrough to get invaded knowing you're now being hunted by another human who wants nothing more than to murder you at any cost. Same goes for being invader. Souls games without players can feel almost dead sometimes. Especially at times where pvp was actually utilized for lore reasons like being afraid of dark moons coming after you for doing something they don't like because that's what they do.
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>>333900230
Ikr.

How else would he get the zwoodle doodle hander.
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>>333899584
>Though I haven't really gone beyond skeletons yet.
you're going the wrong way.
> I've heard you need to look up a guide, but I hate doing that shit.
you don't. DaS is basically video games 101: listen to NPCs and if you keep getting your shit wrecked go somewhere else.
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>>333900413
I came late to the party and i never saw ANY summon signs EVER , no invaders, nothing

Only some weird player-like looking phantoms chilling in bonfires before dissapearing

I had a lot of fun with the game but yeah i wish i had not missed multiplayer im still playing ds1 nowadays
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>>333893092
Why did accessing the DLC have to be so cryptic? Never even found any DLC stuff except for revisiting the tutorial level
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>>333896172
>DeS PVP
>better
Stopped reading here, anyone one that thinks grass eating contests and Second Chance make good PVP should be shot
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>Game is bad after Anor Londo
No it's not. More linear, yes. Not as polished, maybe. But not bad. The ONLY bad part of the game is Lost Izalith because of the eye-rape and shitty """boss"""
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>>333900746
download PVP watchdog, hang around the forest and Oolacile Township for PVP. something like 7000 people still play every day.
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>>333900746
You need to change your Steam region to something like Japan
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>>333900825
>Never even found any DLC stuff except for revisiting the tutorial level
that's not part of the DLC, that's in the base game.
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>>333900825
You seriously cant miss the golem in dukes archives, and by youre entering dukes archivea you should already have killed the hydra unless you were a pussy too much to go a fight him to realize its easy as hell

Coming back to the hydra cave is just assumong players wanted to inspect it after going somewhere else
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>>333896415
The Framerate is solid though and the animations are well suited to hiding the framerate
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>>333892710
watch matthewmatosis' commentary on the game to understand how masterfully crafted the first half of dark souls is

it's seriously something to behold. and the latter parts of the game aren't even THAT bad
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>>333900908
What if i want to co-op? Does it help that too?
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>>333900708
>you're going the wrong way.

There's no wrong way. My first run was New Londo, being mad for finding nothing, doing the catacombs and the tomb of giants. Being mad at the end of it. Back to top and into easy mode for a good third of the game.

Granted, I would advise against doing the same if you can't take the frustration. There are other ways. Always.

>>333900413
>Souls games without players can feel almost dead sometimes.

Which is par for the course, mood-wise. Myself I prefer offline. I tend to play those games like I'd play King's Field. Other players breaking the slow, methodical pace of the game kills it for me. Not to mention the messages.
To each their own, obviously.
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>>333901094
I did all of that stuff, checked the cave and thought ulit strange it was empty, never thought to go back and was in a rush to beat the game before DaS3 released
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>>333901264
yeah. PVP watchdog displays how many nodes (players) are on/near you at the moment. co-op will be harder though because there are probably less new people playing right now, and people who played before won't be interested.
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>tfw not getting any nodes

Are the servers dead or something?
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>>333900908
dude DaS1 beats DaS2 even to this day in steam stats. Its close though.
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>>333901396
>There's no wrong way.
there is. you're intentionally stopped from proceeding in those areas because it's the wrong way.
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>Managing to beat the bed of chaos without dying once.
I'll never be that lucky again.
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>>333901445
Whats the sl meta

How do i initiate or engage the process of pvp, just join a covenant and place down my red sign?
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>>333901470
same here, tried restarting router/pc, changing regions, etc.. stil nothing
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>>333897107
>>333896682
>shills paid so they don't have to optimize games.

My computer is capable of it. Why is it so hard to code. And yes, it's twice as fast, fucker.
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>>333901579

Which doesn't matter much in the long run if you value exploration and overcoming obstacles. You'(re always going to have to backtrack at some point or another.

Going raw without a guide in those games is great I find.
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>>333901815
I just want to keep invading people in the township, man.

they wouldn't shut down the game servers just like that, would they?
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>>333892710
it would be pretty hard to make an argument against it being the greatest game of all time
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>>333901717
i think the meta is still 100-120, but yeah you just need the red eye orbs to invade.
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>>333896415
autism intensifies
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>>333892710
Kings field is better
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>>333901717
People usually use sl 125 as a "level cap"

>>333902012
It's still the Souls games with the highest player count, according to steamcharts
does it have to do with DaS3?
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>>333901470
>mfw got good and beat DS with no summons when I summoned for every DS2 boss
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>Dark souls babies

Play fucking demon souls. No estus flasks, no poise, lose a level if failed an invasion.

This game is soul crushing
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>>333902568
Highest player count changes nothing, because if it was something to do with DaS3, they'd go through with it anyways. I really hope this is just a minor thing though, I was gonna do some co-op with some friends
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>>333893092
I can confirm this,

maybe when the game first come out things was different. but as a latecomer, this is all there is.
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>>333902720
When I don't need a NO GAEMS station to play it I will
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>>333899902
here is a tip ignore the internet and all these bullshit guides and play it like a n64 game.blind
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>>333902720
stuck at the perpetrator, haven't passed it since
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>>333897381
There is a fix for this on the nexus, no joke.
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>>333896172
>trying this hard to be a contrarian
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>>333896415
le FPS meme was cool in 2014 familia
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Does online work again yet?

I wanna PvP in the forest or maybe the undead berg.
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If you have to ask, you won't like it

anyone who actually cares about the series played that shit back in 2011
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>>333904330
Checked a few minutes ago, still dead anon.

can't wake up
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>>333896172
>>Spells and ranged are game-breakingly overpowered, on par with DeS.

Hahahahhahahahhahah no
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>>333904432
jesus fucking christ that sucks. i wanted to PvP some more before 3 comes out tomorrow.
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>>333901409
Yeah, the fact that you need to reload the area to have the crystal golem spawn is kinda shitty.
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Here's my top 5 best games
1. Dark Souls
2. Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri
3. Splinter Cell Chaos Theory
4. GTAV (formerly San Andreas)
5. Riddick: Butcher Bay

I ain't bullshitting when I say Dark Souls is the greatest artwork yet wrought by human hands. Bloodborne came close, if it had better character development I think it'd be #1. Dark Souls 3 might beat it, fucking hyped.
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>>333896415
I personally preferred DaS in 30fps, though maybe I had just gotten so used to it when the 60fps patches came out that I couldn't switch.
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>>333904697
I know the feeling, just got to 120 on a new guy a few days ago, and now there's this.
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>>333892710
i thought it was a meme until i caved and tried DS1, then i realized its not hard and fun as fuck - its just not a 'hit A then get told youre a good boy good job for pressing A' simulator like some people are used to. personally, i feel like dark souls is the morrowind sequel ive always wanted but never got.
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>>333899289
Dark Souls should be played multiplayer. The devs went through the trouble of integrating the matchmaking/covenant mechanics into the plot and fabric of the world. Every element is relevant in Dark Souls, every option should be used.

It's the dueling community that sucks. Playing in tiny simple arenas when they could either be invading or ganking with a whole level at their disposal. Plus Dark Souls is honestly too simple of a game to be taken serious for PVP. Every move is slow enough that barring internet latency, you can parry them every time on reaction to startup. It was only through dumb shit like dead angling that the duelfags lasted as long as they did in the first place.
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Let's settle this here and now: which one is the true template of the franchise: Dark Souls or Demon's Souls?
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>>333895661

>for a game made in 2011

The hell is that supposed to mean?
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>>333906121
demon souls? get outta here j-pop idol poster.
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>>333892710
Its pretty good.
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>>333906284
dude, DS1 looks and plays better than 75% of games released in 2015
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>tfw the first time i played it i used a walkthrough
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>>333905465
>The devs went through the trouble of integrating the matchmaking/covenant mechanics into the plot and fabric of the world.

With the most bullshit retarded excuse possible. Plus they also forgot to balance summons. Also multiplayer absolutely shits on the lonely atmosphere of the game. The player messages especially while novel are a terrible idea.
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>>333903912
Well shit, it's real. Jump distance fix when?
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k guys
I'm playing on a PC though
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>>333901621
witchcraft
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>>333896415
I played a fucking Atlhonx2 4600 with 3gb ram and a GTS 450.
I played with decent fps almost all the time, only Blighttown had horrible 23fps.
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I can play this prepare to die edition right?
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>>333900825
its not cryptic its just requires you to have half a brain kid
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>>333896415
total biscuit sure destroyed your poor limited brain
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>>333903830
Perpetrator
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>>333904765
You're going to just die when you come across some of the bosses anon. Feel the hype, it's a great way to end the series
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