Is there a worse boss fight in all of video game history?
Every single boss fight from this piece of shit game.
>>333890497
This fucker
>>333890497
Mizar from Jet Force Gemini.
>>333890497
BoC isn't even bad.
>Tiny pool of health
>Only 3 points you needs to reach to kill her
>The collapsing floor is easy as fuck to avoid
The only serious issue you might have in this fight is the massive AoE attack she has, which admittedly, can kill you instantly without any kind of fire resist or if you have dogshit VIG.
>>333890497
Haven't played Souls, what's wrong with this boss specifically?
>>333892505
Took me a long time to kill him on nightmare.
I still had it worse with pic related.
>>333892765
That was a hard boss fight, not a shit one.
>>333892765
Drop the armor, learn his moves and roll around.
![v4jYjW3[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/jZGCAZc.png "v4jYjW3[1].png")
>>333890497
>BoC
>bad
lol
>>333892765
Its actually easier when you use vestaldt's helm and starts the fight like that, not even joking.
>>333893081
People wait around too long and generally end up being caught out by the floor collapsing.
>>333893081
I don't personally have a problem with this fight, but:
It's a sort of gimmick fight near the end of the game. The boss needs to be hit once at 3 vital points across the (large-ish) arena: Two at the left and right ends, and one in the middle, directly under it. The fight carries over progress, so if you hit one vital point and die, you only need to hit the other 2 every time you come in.
As it loses vital points, the floor gets large holes in it, and the boss attacks more frequently. The last center vital point requires you to make a jump across a large-ish gap onto a narrow platform, but the boss has very wide and unpredictable swings.
Essentially, it's very easy to get hit once and die, and it's hard to dodge hits.
>>333893113
This guy was harder that fact himself
Damn i should continue my YS marathon, thanks for reminding me anon
This boss is too fucking hard
tbqh
The Buebeam Trap from Megaman 2
>>333893271
It's easier just to summon for this guy. Two competent players can take him easily.
>>333893012
>The collapsing floor is easy as fuck to avoid
>parts don't collapse until you're near it
>arms constantly swinging around to knock you down
it's almost luck based
>>333892765
Overrated as fuck.
>>333893532
The floor only collapses in areas near the boss though. All you had to do was destroy a node then run away.
>>333893235
>those last 3 notes
>>333893532
The floor literally starts to wobble when it's about to collapse. This is literally fucking Mario 101. The AoE attack is by far the most bullshit thing in the fight simply because you have no idea if it'll kill you or not.
>>333890497
Easily the hardest fight on the entire series and the one which is most blatently unfair. It basically requires a summon and even then it's still hard as fuck.
>>333894273
Whoops! Forgot pic.
>>333893081
It is rage incarnate, even worse it's optional so you waste hours dying and trying to get lucky only to have your hopes completely shattered again and again for no reason other than your not genna let the game win.
>>333892765
>Buttplasted memecucki fag mad that DaS2 has objetively better bosses than DeS/DaS/BB
:^)
>>333890497
Ancient Dragon
>>333894513
>It's optional
But it isn't, you fucking idiot.
>>333894273
Lud and Zallen are easier solo, but an NPC summon helps to safely get through the Frigid Outskirts.
>>333893623
He's the only at least somehow challenging DS2 boss, what do you want from a shit game.
>>333893012
Honestly
>Has an easy to follow pattern
>Only have to hit three things
Bed of Chaos is easy as fuck, just a little frustrating.
>>333894370
Agreed, anon.
It's only easier if you summon another human, though. If you summon NPCs the fight is actually harder because the HP of both bosses increases but the phantoms don't carry their own weight and die easily.
>>333895926
I actually had a lot of fun with it , made me feel quite stupid falling in stupid ways
>>333893081
Nothing's "wrong" with BoC I suppose, the problem is that it's so different from other bosses that it takes many deaths to adjust. And then you leave with skills that won't help you in the rest of the game.
It's sort of a memorisation platformer boss based on safely moving from point to point. No actual fighting involved. And it finishes with a jump (jumping in Souls is not the easiest thing in the world).
there's a worse boss in that game.
stray demon. only redeeming thing about it is that it's optional
>>333893081
it's a combination of not being a "real" fight, being at the end of a largely disappointing level, and pretty much any error ending up with you dying. it makes the floor fall out from underneath you and attacks almost the entire arena at once with huge sweeps, it comes down to 90% memory and 10% luck.
>>333896226
Stray Demon is a piece of piss if you have a shield with 100 block. Strafe right, block, and attack when there's an opening.
>>333893465
The most I've ever been able to do was beat it to near death.
>>333893081
Ultra gimmicky, very easy to die without being able to react, it also has platforming while being attacked which isn't nice either.
>>333893465
This boss isn't too hard. You just need to get good. Multiple different builds work on him, especially after you learn the patterns and gimmicks of each phase
>>333896226
>stray demon
people actually have trouble with that thing? but seriously BoC has no redeemable qualities at all
>>333892765
Why do people think this guy is hard?, beat him on my second try only because I healed at the wrong time first try
>>333896226
I honestly think that Stray Demon is supposed to like the Hellkite Drake, you're supposed to perceive it as a punishment / trap, not a boss. You can only kill it as a sort of easter egg.
Of course players don't usually see things in that way. It was a misunderstanding of player mindset.
>>333890497
>Entire game is about taking things slow and being aware of your surroundings.
>People bitch at the only boss in the game that relies on taking things slow and being aware of your surroundings.
Walk along the roots and be ready to roll/block the swipes. Literally all there is to the fight. I beat this shit on my second try on the first playthrough and it's piss easy to beat first try every other playthrough.
>>333894273
>>333894370
I still haven't beaten 2kat. I've resigned myself to never killing them. The reindeer funtimes on the way to the fight broke me.
>>333897298
>taking things slow
>bed of Chaos
rofl
The one time I "took it slow" and held my shield carefully, I got hit and got pushed off the edge and unto my death, and my stamina didn't even deplete.
>>333897384
took me 11 hours in a row but I did it
stay wrong mate!
>>333890497
>waiting for a god tier fight against a huge dragon
>fuck you just run around firing ballistae
Dragon God is worse
>>333895526
How rude
>>333890497
Yo. Just starts throwing out talent arts like crazy.
>>333897529
>Wasting 11 hours of your life on that shit fucking fight
It's not even mandatory.
>>333897694
I really think huge dragons just generally don't work in these types of games, so it's unfortunate that they are part of the lore.
The problem with huge dragons is that if you're supposed to fight them normally, you'll always be thinking "why isn't this dragon really trying to kill me"?
Huge dragons have such obvious tactics available that would absolutely destroy a humanoid. And one of the best things about Souls is that the bosses actually seem like they want you dead.
>>333897287
It drops a slab and it has a boss health bar, as well as giving enough souls for a level or two depending on when you fight him, I'd say that makes him boss material, considering Hellkite doesn't have any good drops, doesn't have a boss bar, and doesn't give that many souls for when you're strong enough to fight him
>>333897976
>for when you're strong enough to fight him
Hellkite really bothers me in terms of design. There are so many tactics to use, and every one of them is tedious and janky, no matter what level you are.
The game seems to be saying "aha! you can snipe him from below the bridge!" except that it takes five million arrows.
>>333897883
>being a man
>leaving things unfinished
pick 1
>>333897887
Kalameet and the whole Hawkeye Gough interaction was great
>>333897529
>>333897384
I did it first try.
I used 3 summons, because fuck, why wouldn't you? That place is shit and literally designed for co-op.
>>333898419
I agree, and I saw it as an attempted solution to my problem.
>>333897384
Beat it on my first try because my summon was based as fuck. Saved me multiple times with Great Heal.
>>333893241
DaScuck detected
>b-but Mitsubishi can't do anything wrong ever!
>>333897887
They're not exactly "Huge", but Kalameet and Sinh were pretty great boss battles.
They were both somewhat injured as well, which could add reason to why they can't kill you instantaneously.
In honesty, half the bosses in these games could kill you in one hit by brutally dismembering the player, there has to be some level of fun/realism balance when it comes to game design with bosses.
Really though, there's no justification for shit like dragon god or ancient dragon, they had all the opportunity to make them actually decent fights.
>>333898534
terrible player detected
>b-but if I suck the game sucks!
>>333898570
Kalameet kinda sucks, Sinh is much better.
>>333897287
It's actually a callback to the gray demon in DeS, where you fight him twice (in the tutorial and in 4-1).
>>333898284
Yeah, honestly, I really don't the developers really intended you to ever bother fighting him, considering both how you have to fight as well as what you get for doing so. Even something like the Hydra prior to the DLC still offered an NPC with story, items, and spells to get from for defeating it. Hellkite just gives you an easier path to the Sunbro covenant.
>>333898626
>fight is literally entirely luck based
>boss mechanics are fucking insane
>at the end of hands-down the worst area in the series, not even lmao 2kat and reindeer funtimes are worse
>developers admit entire area was unfinished as fuck
>this game isn't shit you're shit!
>>333898501
>I did it my first try
>I cheated
bravo - bosses aren't designed for anything beyond the solo player and are always retarded with summons, did yourself a great disservice
>>333893465
This version isn't hard.
2.0 Hard is fucking ridiculous since the 2 center weapons are accessible by any crew member
>>333898871
>Entirely luck based
But that's wrong. I fucking hate everything about Bed of Chaos, but saying it's luck based is completely and totally wrong, everything in the fight is predictable and non-random.
>>333898871
>fight is literally entirely luck based
false. it's just like every other boss: avoid the attacks.
>boss mechanics are fucking insane
hitting a boss three times is LOL SO WHACKY you're right.
>at the end of hands-down the worst area in the series, not even lmao 2kat and reindeer funtimes are worse
yeah Lost Izalith sucked.
>developers admit entire area was unfinished as fuck
that's nice.
>this game isn't shit you're shit!
correct.
>>333898664
I think Kalameet is pretty good as a boss
He gives a lot of opportunities for attack while still presenting a threat.
None of his attacks are bullshit, and he has a large variety of them, with several of them giving the player various ways of getting ready to damage him
His general design is fantastic, the weird bird like beak and glowing orange eye along with the striking black and sleek body is both brutal and grandiose, it fits in with his role in the dlc quite well, and suits the area he's in.
I don't understand why anyone would say he's a bad boss.
That being said, I do agree sinh is a great boss.
>>333897782
I would say Yaldabaoth(first time) is hard as hell since you don't expect to fight the damn thing after Egil.Party was 66 at that part except for Riki who was 67. Only Riki was able to do damage
>>333899076
>random aoe attacks over collapsing floors
>not luck-based
>most recommended way to fight the boss is to quit the game halfway through
I'd challenge you to name a single good thing about the BoC fight but you probably can't speak with From's cock in your mouth.
>>333893081
it's a platforming boss in a souls game, a series notoriously for having clunky sprinting and jumping
![perfect-dark-gaia-11[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/AyVGGIy.png "perfect-dark-gaia-11[1].png")
>>333890497
>>333896226
>piece of piss if
Bleeding wrecks him, just stay behind him.
>>333899293
>random AoE attacks over collapsing floors
not random. you can see the arms move before they begin the sweeping attack. the floors always collapse in the exact same spot, and they even rumble and shake before collapsing. also the arena is large enough that you can stand near the back and never be hit.
Playing through DaS again the other day, I do agree BoC is a terrible boss.
It's awful in every way, even the music didn't really add much to the fight, and instead cemented the oddness of it in a game of standout designs and bosses.
Although I think several bosses are nearly as bad throughout the souls series:
DeS:
Dragon God
DaS2:
Ancient Dragon
Lud and Zallen
Covetous Demon
BB:
Rom
Micolash
>>333899396
Erazor Djinn was worse
>>333893465
Get good, bitch
This boss is excellent because it's actually difficult
>>333890497
The only shit part was the jump at the end. Absolutely fucking awful jump system. Ceaseless is objectively shittier, and seath us equally lame if you have a bow and don't care for the tail.
>>333897216
I did all the DS2 dlc for the first time today.
All the final bosses were easy with my build.
Just shoved a grand lance up their asses. With Leo Ring it did tons of damage.
>>333899571
>conveniently forgetting about firestorms
>get swept into pits because you can't look up at when the arms are going to sweep if you're looking at the ground looking for which tile is going to collapse
>bearer of a lord soul and the mother of pyromancy dies in LITERALLY three hits, some fatass with a weedwhacker could theoretically kill her ezpz
literally everything about BoC is shit
shitty fight but the only good thing about it is that you don't have to redo killing the nodes every time.
>>333890497
THIS is a shitty boss.
>hurr durr let's throw hundreds pf enemies at the player while they gotta rocket this tiny hole and it sometimes shoots stuff at them
I'd say "what the fuck were they thinking" but that applies to a lot of doom 2.
>>333890497
Dragon God
>ohko gauntlet that resets if you die
>deals huge damage even after the gauntlet
>10/10 boss immediately beforehand makes it seem worse
BoC is a garbage boss, and it's a better version of Dragon God
>>333900690
forgot pic
>>333896126
There is literally no reason or need to jump. Just fall or roll off
>>333894370
I just killed them solo and helped a few people take them down on ps4 an hour ago, one last hurrah.
Lud and Zallen are easy. If you don't lose track of one you should never get hit, they're like Aava with half the moves.
>>333900165
He actual dies in 1 hit no matter what
>>333890497
Any boss fight in western games.
Jokes aside, though, Bed of Chaos isn't THAT bad, seeing as you don't lose progress when you die on that fight; you will get it eventually, and it hardly ever takes more than 2 tries.
>>333899878
There's no need or reason to jump. Fall or roll, don't jump
>>333902601
>it hardly ever takes more than 2 tries
If you're lucky or read a guide, sure.
Going in blind means at least a couple of deaths figuring out to kill the globes. Then making the jump is practically random because of the shitty arm timings. Then throw in some more because firestorm can hit you while you're breaking branches underneath. And, to top it off, the bug deals damage too.
>>333899265
I don't know, I felt like due to what level Jade Face was when you fought him the second time that the game was telling you that you had to at least be level 74 or higher to stand a chance against Egil so I starting killing Mechon until then so Yaldadabado went down easy. I had a tougher fight against Egil due to using Shulk,Reyn and Fiora all the time since I liked them the most. Should of known that in RPG's you're never to fight without a dedicated healer.
>>333890789
This. BBS has consistently shit boss design throughout the main game and it culminates with the secret bosses being the absolute worst I think I've ever seen in a game.
Fuck this boss, even if it was meant to be intentional.
>>333893465
My issue with this boss is that a run that did not provide you with items for the effective builds against it instantly prevents you from winning and is totally out of your control.
>>333898929
>bosses aren't designed for anything beyond the solo player
>He doesn't know about the literally "co-op designed area" signs in the DaS2 DLC
lmao
>>333905186
Never managed to beat him on hard mode. Only got to his tornado punch move once, and since the brief telegraph looks too damn similar to his already bullshit teleportation move, it basically becomes impossible to predict.
>>333890497
3 grave robbers in crown of the sunken king
It's optional but I feel obligated
>>333893465
First time I showed my friend the game he managed to take out the flagship in his very first run. Hasn't done it since.
>>333902996
Surprisingly you can beat every boss with any non-sharla team and be a few levels under.
Main focus is just DPS like hell
