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What went wrong? Is this what modern video games have become?
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What went wrong? Is this what modern video games have become?
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blame easy mode share
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>>333873090
Not like Blue was any harder since most of his pokèmon had fuck terrible movesets.
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>>333873090
wtf??!!?!!?!!?!!
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The only differences between those two pics is that the guy in the bottom grinded way more and is up against a much harder opponent.
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>>333873090
Neo-Nintendo thinks the only people who buy their games are 2 year olds
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>>333873090
>using an ice type move on a water type
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>>333873090
>some of Blue's Pokemon don't even have four moves
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>>333873090
So what's supposed to be wrong about this exactly?
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>>333873464
>he is too young to have played r/b
ice came up as super effective due to a bug
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>>333873090
Starters are typically the players highest level pokemon. Other team members, particularly in the earliest games, are ususally a fair bit lower unless the player has spent a significant amount of time grinding their other Pokemon to the same level as their starter.
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>>333873464
To be fair to Ash, his Pikachu can shock Ground-type Pokémon and some of his birds can resist Electric-type attacks through sheer willpower, so maybe he's just being misinformed by his own experiences.
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Genwunner here, what the fuck am I looking at?
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>>333874245
>source: my ass
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>>333874378
The usual. Someone grinding in a JRPG and then complaining about the lack of difficulty. Nothing to see here.
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>>333874245
>too young

nigger it's been like 13 years since I've played R/B sorry for not remembering outdated mechanics
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>>333874542
There was no grinding in gen6. Turn the Exp Share on once you get it and you'll be overleveled the entire game without ever needing to grind against wild mons
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>>333874658
Worse than that, if you played them when they first released it's been over 18 years.
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>>333874860
This. I wanted to test this out just to clarify that it was broken. Had an HM slave bunnelby that I never used throughout the entire run. Every level he got was through the exp. share. By the time I exited the E4 the fucker was lvl. 59.
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>>333874860
Grinding against wild pokemon was never enjoyable. In fact it was annoying, so much so that on repeat playthroughs I'd pretty much exclusively use my starter and just smash through everything with one overleveled motherfucker.
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>>333874860
Then don't turn it on?
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>>333873090
Rival's team:
>Pidgeot has whirlwind
>Rhydon has leer and tail whip
>Exeggutor has 3 moves and no STAB despite being the Venusaur replacement
>Gyarados has leer and dragon rage
>Arcanine has roar and leer and it's only STAB is ember
>Charizard has rage
>Blastoise has bite
>Venusaur has growth when it's got a fuckton of weaknesses

Diantha's Pokemon are well balanced, have moves that best use their stats, each have at least one STAB move, and their status moves make sense.

So yeah, I also can't believe the originals were so bad.
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>>333874245
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFZrzg62Zj0
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OFFICIAL POKEMON FINAL BOSS TIER LIST (not including remakes)

Cynthia = Red >>> N > Lance > Alder = Iris >>>> Blue > Steven Stone = Diantha >>>>> Wallace
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To people claiming the player in the bottom picture grinded: You're wrong.
When I played through X/Y my starter was usually at least 20 lvls higher than the enemy trainer's, without any grinding. I simply beat every trainer on every route and thanks to the ep-sharer I never had to put a different pokemon at the first position and breezed through the game without any difficulties at all. This guy's Greninja is Lv 71 when they fight the final boss, mine was about lv 80-85.
On a different note: Look at the fucking sprite of this Blastoise, motherfucker looks threatening as fuck.
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>>333875806
You must be 18 years or older to browse this imageboard
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>>333876431
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc_LIR5ExIU
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>>333876409
>Look at the fucking sprite of this Blastoise, motherfucker looks threatening as fuck.
looks like it can hardly move and has a broken hand
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>>333876409
>He used exp share

Theres your problem. Are you 12?
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>>333876612
It looks like its going to complain about sore joints and ask for a cheeseburger in an American accent
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>>333873090
>blizzard

op is either a faggot or a tard
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>>333876642
>You need to grind 20 hours with very pokemons or you are not good

Dude come on.
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>>333873090
I completely forgot what a fat fuck Blastoise was.
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>>333876409
Looks like Blastoise is about to have a heart attack and needs to check his blood glucose level.
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>>333876642
>Going out of your way just to make it artificially hard
If the game is giving me the option to use it, why should I neglect it. I might just play a regular run one of these days, but if you have the option to be lazy, it's hard not to take it.
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>>333876752
> American accent
American's don't have accents.
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>>333876409
just look at the gym leaders

emerald best gyms
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>Using the EXP Share
>Complaining the game is too easy
>Being that retarded.

The EXP share was meant for easy mode for kids. Turn it off and you won't have a level gap. Still not difficult. Remember these games are for fucking children. Stop crying, assholes.
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>>333876752

>britfag

>language cucked by americano

>why do you have weird accent britnon?
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>>333876945
>I also use the level skips in Super Mario Bros 3 and the golden tanooki suit in Super Mario 3D World
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>>333876875
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>>333873090

Even with the terrible movesets in gen 1, the gen 6 champion was still easier.
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>>333876945
Do you always pick easy before you start a game instead of normal difficulty? You have the mental capacity to comprehend thats waht the EXP share is, right?
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>>333876871
What the fuck is your problem? What do you want exactly?
>"Pokemon sucks now it's too easy you get overlevelled"
>Turn off the thing that overlevels you then
>"But that would make the game haaaaarrrrd"
You can beat pokemon without grinding. In fact you have to go out of your way and raise a full team to make it challenging at all.
>>333876945
>but if you have the option to be lazy, it's hard not to take it.
You are just plain pathetic.
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>>333874938
>people who literally weren't born when Pokemon came out are now old enough to browse this place

Why is the passage of time so horrifying?
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>>333876832
Blizzard was one of the most powerful move in Pokemon.
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>>333873090
They realized that their target audience are braindead kids
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>>333874064
My guess is the level difference in the final fight of the game
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>>333877124
i specifically remember kakuna having arms.
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>>333877728
>Western art

reeeeeeeeee
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>>333873298
>DIANTHA
>HARD
WHAT THE FUCK AM I READING LOL
I swept her whole team with my Greninja holy shot, how awful are you?
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While gen 6 is too easy. Gen 1 inflated the enemy levels to compensate for the shit A.I, it's still piss easy. God knows how many tiers were caused by Ghestis's Hydregion and that was gen 5.

I am confused why people found it hard though, I swept him and I didn't even use the dragon.
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>>333877335
Why wouldnt I use the XP share to level my underleveled pokemons? Skymory need some leveling up!
I'm not the anon you were talking to too.
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>>333873090
>riku
>using your starter
Yeah truly a disgusting sight
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>>333877227
Yes, and I don't care. I wasn't even complaining, I just pointed it out. After having so many turn-based jRPGs, it's pleasant to be able to be spared the hassle of grinding. It's like with the FF7 remaster where you can turn off random encounters and be able to fastforward in fights. Sure, it wasn't in the original game, but it makes things a lot more convenient. And I don't need to prove my age or how much of a true gaymurr I am by playing POKEMON. Trust me, I enjoy a nice challenge, but grinding in a pokemon game is not challenging, it is just additional time spent to achieve the same thing.
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>>333878430
*Yes referring to your second question of course, not your first.
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I some 15 year old was playing Omega Ruby, I had played it and not touched it in a year or so; but I had spare IV trained I figure I'd share with him.

>It's his third playthrough and he hacked in lvl 100 mons from the start, as he did the first two times.

What the fuck, he's playing it for the story or something?

Just look up Courtney on R34 sites for chrsit sake
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>>333873090
Pokemon was never hard. It doesn't make a difference.
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NEVER FORGET ALL TERRAIN VENOMOTH.
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>>333874245
No it didn't you fucking retard.

The only reason you think that is because Gyarados was weak to ice moves in Gen 1.
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>>333874245
wrong, ice deals 1/2 to water in gen I, the only bug I remember is ghost dealing 0 damage to psychic instead of x2.
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>>333879515
There's a bug that makes the super effective text pop up even if the seconadry type would nullify the attack. So it would say its super effective but the move would deal regular damage.
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>>333878226
>ampharos named Static

that's like having a Talonflame named Gale Wings, or a fire starter named Blaze
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>>333880512
Static all day erry day
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>>333881113
i mean you picked the right electric type but still
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>>333881416
Meh, it was the name I used in Silver so why not.
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>>333882058
fair enough
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>>333882208
Also, is it me or Black 2 really boring? It's so linear for some reason, I just want to be the very best, and they have a whole plotline about conquering the world with ships and a ton of dialog.
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every single game can be beaten by using a party of your starter and 5 level 2 pidgeys who cares
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>>333876752
Please stop reminding me that I have an accent.
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>>333879463
And this was only due to the fact that the game did not calculate dual-type effectiveness correctly. Gyarados didn't actually take double damage, it just read "super effective" and still dealt normal, neutral damage.
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>>333877530
It has no STAB from Vaporeon and it's not very effective on Blastoise. It's a shit move
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>>333877990
Throh + Superpower + Close Combat = gg Dennis

Seriously, once Bouffalant and Hydreigon are dealt with, Ghetsis is as good as dead meat.
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>there are casual fucks on /v/ that use exp share

Dear god what has this board become
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>>333883203
Yeah I remember Dig wiping out fucking everything when I was a kid because there were so many fucking dual poison types.

Almost all grass types were part poison
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>>333883651
How is using XP share casual?
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>He treats pokemon games like theyre competitive
>gives a shit a bout tryharding in battles outside of type advantages

Its a piss-easy, babbies first RPG

Why does everyone here have crippling autism?
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>>333884107
Don't ever post on my board again
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>>333873090
This image doesn't have enough of a backdrop to say anything serious.
Bottom example could be a grinder. Could have spammed Pokemon Amie. Top example could be using an under-leveled member of team, whereas bottom could be using primary slugger.

Not disagreeing with the overall point, but there are better ways to make it. i.e, Super Training babbyfying EVs.
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>>333883814
Roughly 1/3 Kanto Pokemon are poison types. This is why Bug and Psychic moves are so overpowered.
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>>333883849
God fucking dammit.
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>>333882957
that's boring though
you're supposed to form a connection to your boys
it's a band of brothers type thang ya know what i'm saying?
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>>333877016
>half the Johto Gym leaders don't even use Johto Pokemon
>the other half use just one
what
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>>333883849
I'm at a loss for words
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>>333877124
>Wiggly's high as fuck.jpeg
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>>333873090
>"We want the mobile audience"
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>>333885876
Since 50% of gamers in Japan are mobile gamers, yeah. When you have to commute 4 hours every day to go to school and work, consoles are not really good.
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>>333883651
You play meme sapphire without it.
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>>333875504
People are mad when they progress slower because they chose to limit themsekves and dont get the fulfillment of "beating" other people at the single player aspect of the game. For example these same people will bitch about fast travel in skyrim.
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>>333886242
>sapphire
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>>333877016
Platinum is GOAT
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>>333883651
>grinding is competitive
Some of us who play actual competitive battles have to level hundreds of pokemon commonly above 70. What kind of autism dies it take to bitch about exp share?
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>>333887113
bad post
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>>333887531
>gardevoir
Hue.
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>>333887837
>Using Mega Gardevoir against Wally's Mega Gallade and showing that masculine strength can come from elegance.
Best feeling.
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>>333887531
>>333885032
wait, does it just copy the exp gained instead of dividing it like normal?
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>>333888475
yes
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>>333887531
>Do nuzlocke of XY
>Turn off exp share
>Don't grind
>Only mega is Aerodactyl who was mostly only used for fly
>Still overleveled for the E4
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>>333877475
>old enough to browse
13 is not that long senpai
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Pokemon needs a real hard mode already

simply knowing the basics of how the fucking game works puts you at a game breaking advantage
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>>333873090
Pokemon was never hard
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>>333888907
They did that in Gen V. Even in B2W2 it was still steamroll tier because higher level opponents just mean more EXP.
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>>333887531
>you have to turn off features to make the game harder
you literally can't blame the player. gamefreak did make the game easier.
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>>333888558
well yeah, that is kinda casual mode then. exp share was meant to get mons that would be a pain/unreliable to train up to snuff enough to level themselves.

this just allows you to overlevel them while speeding through the game.
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>>333888620
>mermaids.jpg
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>>333889019
Basically they need more pokemon on trainers and proper movesets/AI on all of them.
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>>333889019
But you needed a key to unlock it from somebody who has already beaten the game.
FUCK Gamefreak. 1 step forward, 2 steps back when it comes to those fucking morons.
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>>333877881
umm
>>333877892
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>>333873464
>what is sheer cold?
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>>333876642
I had to turn off Exp Share since it turns the game into easy mode. I grinned twice throughout the game from memory: Victory Road (to stop returning to the PokeCenter), and for Siebold (I think he should have been the Champion instead).
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>>333876780
The gen 1 starters look like dinosaurs.

Gen 2 starters look like Savannah animals.

Gen 3 look like they would be at home in the swamp or jungle.

Gen 4 look like they are city dwellers.

Gen 5 look like they are country bumpkins.

Gen 6 look like the pets of fashion models.
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>>333873090
Better question
Why do people think of Generation 4 games as the highest tier in Pokemon?
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>>333883534
>120 power move with 90% accuracy
>bad
haha what the fuck am i reading?
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>>333889789
>Penguin
>City
What.
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Why didn't anyone call out the bullshit when heartgold came out that the level scaling for that game is truly awful if you have a full team you level equally.

Or maybe you guys did and I didn't see it because I didn't care about pokemon or gen 2 back then.

Seriously the level scaling is abysmal in heart gold/soul silver.

Leveled a full party equally til the 8th gym, and shes almost 10 levels higher than my team even though I won against every trainer I saw.

Not that a 10 level difference means anything unless of course you don't have the super effective attacks against the type that gym leader was, Dragon.

You can say grab an ice pokemon from the area right before that gym, but that defeats the purpose of deciding on a team to be best buddies with.
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>>333890074
In the situation it's being used, yes it's bad.
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>>333889994
Platinum is. It fixed the problems of DP while creating new improvements and world building.
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>>333890281
You literally just said and I quote, "It's a shit move"
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>>333889994
I will still never understand why Diamond and Pearl didn't have all the cross evos available in the main game in the first place.
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>>333890160
i think he means the style, not the animal bases.
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>>333890380
>can't into context
>even why it's a shit move in that situation is given in the same post
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>>333889994
Because HGSS are great and PT is good/great too.
BW2 is great but BW is not for everyone.
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>>333890610
Next time say "it's a shit move in that situation" instead of a "shit move".
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Not related to whatever bullshit OP is whinign about.

I haven't played a pokemon game since Pearl and I'm kind of feeling the itch. I hear everyone losing their shit over Black and White 2.Would that be a good place to jump into? Not really interested in the nostalgia grab remakes unless they're somehow filled to the brim with content.
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>Diantha is the only trainer in the entire game with 6 pokemon, their movesets are all garbage
>ITS TOTALY EXP SHARES FAULT THE GAME IS EASY DURR

Drink bleach.
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>>333890482
They were used to sell the Gameboy slot, as you had to Pal Park most of them.
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>talk with younger brother
>pokemon comes up as topic
>says something about triple battles and pokemon having characteristics
>have no idea what this is
>dude, everyone knows that, what's wrong with you?
>realize my last pokemon game I've played was silver in 1999 and feel old
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>implying the snow route Platinum wasn't the best route in any Pokemon game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpdKxBoF-ko

It was just so damn comfy and had a feeling of being far away from home into a completely exotic region. Just imagine sitting around a campfire with your Pokemon buddies eating snacks and resting on your obligatory giant mon.
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>>333890853
silver came out in 2000

>inb4 you played the jap version
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>>333887531

The game fucking hands you (Quite literally in the case of lati@s) everything. You have to go out of your way to make the game not fucking braindead, even playing R/B now you at least have to account for what type of gym you're going up against
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>>333879515
>the only bug I remember is ghost dealing 0 damage to psychic instead of x2.

I don't remember that at all, but I do remember that the weakness was practically useless, as the only ghost move that actually could deal super effective damage was Lick, which is fucking worthless. The only other offensive Ghost move was Night Shade, which always dealt your pokemon's level in damage.
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>>333873090

>On Lance
>bring out Muk
>computer AI is so stupid it keeps spamming Agility because it is a Psychic move

WOW SO HARD!
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>>333890915
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So how are they going to make sun/moon incredibly, insultingly easy like X/Y was.

Are they gonna give 3 starts, a Metagross, and a a Mewtwo before the fucking mid game? They are gonna do something ridiculous to up the ante from the stupid shit they throw at you in XY with two starters and a Lucario.

So what are they going to do to make the game super easy for the kids this time you think?
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>>333890714
>I am dumb, detail everything to me
>even when it was already detailed
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Pokemon games were never exactly hard.

That said when I play them now I either do Nuzlocke or purposely play only with average to garbage pokemon and box my starter as soon as I can.
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>>333875504

the game's levels scale as if you are using the EXP Share. Turn it off and you are making it frustratingly hard.
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>>333891237
Don't get mad at me because you fucked up at explaining things.
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>>333891174
With the amount of bitching, it would be nice if they finally added a difficulty setting at the start.
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>people in this thread actually used the EXP Share in X and Y before post-game
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What's the appeal to Nuzlockes? I don't like ugly shitmons, I like using Pokemon that I think are cool.
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>>333876114

>Lance that high(since FireRed/LeafGreen doesn't count when he had a good team)
>Wallace that low
>Iris not dead last
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>>333877956
>Lol, she isn't harder! I grinded more
>What are levels?

She's technically harder, but the game's share levels you so fast it prepares you quicker. But you're still a faggot.
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>>333891326
you're the one that fucked up at basic reading, the one thing you really need to play pokemon in the first place.
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>>333891485
I didn't fuck up at basic reading. You flat out stated it was a shit move and I said you were wrong, and now you're backpedaling by saying I was wrong somehow.
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>>333877956

okay and?

you can sweep Gen 5's Elite Four with an underleveled Scrafty.
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>>333873236
Oh yeah, totally fucking forgot how much I love grinding for hours. It's not like there aren't other games to play or other thingsI wanted to do with my day. Muh dick ain't gonna jerk itself off.
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>>333876114
>Iris that high
>Iris above anyone
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>>333891341

I doubt that.

>recently decided to emulate white 2 since i'm trying out the previous gens i didn't play
>beat white 2 a few days ago
>get up to take a piss while credits roll
>come back
>you unlocked easy mode
>just calmly close the emulator and have a long sigh for like 6 seconds, out loud, trying to figure out why the fuck that is even a thing
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>>333889994
>there were so few gen 4 fire types that flint was forced to use the starter, a pokemon from a past gen, and 3 non-fire-type filler pokemon

fuckin lol
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>>333891618
>You flat out stated it was a shit move
After explaining why.
Good god man, learn to read.
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>>333891458
>what's the appeal of doing a challenge run
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>>333891458
You get that "what am I gonna get this time?" feel that makes every run different.
You can use Pokemon you never thought of trying before. Nicknames gives them more sentimental value, if you're into that.
You can actually focus on the maingame instead of rushing through it to get to competitive.
The game can be easy or hard depending on the Pokemon you get, making the game more challenging than a regular run.

Just some things I think about when nuzlocking.
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>>333873464
>>333874245
It has nothing to do with typing.

It has to do with the fact that Freeze was broken as fuck in RBGY and that Blizzard had 90 base accuracy for some reason.

Blizzard and Hyper Beam could be the best moves in the game if you used them right and got lucky. A turn-1 freeze would basically guarantee you a kill.
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>>333877956
HardER you retard. The movesets on Blue's pokemon are retardedly bad.
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>>333882738

>play Black and White when it came out
>thought it was okay but dropped the series until Gen 6
>go back to see what I missed and everyone raves about BW2
>found it kind of boring and not as good as the first one
>great post game content tho

is this the same thing as disliking Ruby/Sapphire but loving Emerald for what it did right? Because that is how I feel about BW2.
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>>333877124
Nostalgia from Japan's sprites... Must have been fun reading all that Japanese text.
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>>333887531

>tryhard team
>picking Mudkip

c'mon you know the tryhard always go with Blaziken who are you fooling?
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>>333875430
The reason why grinding in Pokemon is such a chore compared to other RPGs was simply due to how the game handled it. For example, in Final Fantasy 3, you have the option to run. However, you won't run as soon as you use the command, and enemies will likely be faster than you are. To make matters worse, running doesn't work nearly as effectively as it does in Pokemon, meaning using the Run command was often in vain. Finally, your defenses turn to 0 when you attempt to run, so you could easily lose a few party members, all so that you avoid running.

Pre-Pokemon RPGs punished running, like in Ultima, your valor would go down if you flee, skewing your progress. RPGs after Pokemon punished engaging in random encounters, which gave birth to the term 'grinding'.
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>>333876114
>Blue
>not at the bottom
I think it's been a while since you played Gen 1. He has 4 pokemon with worthless movesets and 2 pokemon with bad movesets.
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Why do people forget the free EV minigame in XY/ORAS?
That's one of the main things that completely broke the single player game imo.
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>>333891839

I get that doing the Battle Factory.

Nuzlocke is just the MUH ADVENTURE version.
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>>333892682
I honestly kept forgetting that existed because I'm not really an EV/IV fag. Because I'm not a competitivefag.
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>>333873090
>Play older pokemon games
>Finish elite 4 with level 50s and a 60
>Spend time with what little post game there is
>Nothing in the game can touch you past 70

It just felt like wasted time or missing content getting a pokemon to level 100 if you didn't have friends who bred to perfection the perfect team

I like that in the newer games the highest level required for an evolution is like a good bit past 50 or 60
I hated that by 4th gym in every older game, you had pretty much fully evolved everything you had

I'm not even sure why I feel this way, but I like it.
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>>333892473
>RPGs after Pokemon punished engaging in random encounters
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>>333892841
I'm not a competitivefag either, I just can't ignore game mechanics.
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>>333892682

you can get EVs whenever in any game. soccer just made it shorter and tracked it. that shit was a godsend. CAN'T FUCKING WAIT FOR GAMEFREAK TO TAKE IT OUT IN GEN 7 BECAUSE THEY LOOOOOOOVE TAKING AWAY USEFUL FEATURES!
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>>333893004
Same. But once my curiosity is satiated, I realize its something I won't use and move on.
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>>333892926
I completely agree with you.
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>>333893007
You could, but that thing allowed you to get perfect EVs from the very start of the game.
There's literally no challenge when your Delfox already has maxed sp atk and spd from very early in the game.

In other games, you at least had to get the macho brace then grind to get EVs then grind BT to get the power items.

It's a useful feature, don't get me wrong, but it would be better to unlock it after beating the E4.
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>>333892943
>post meme pic

nice rebuttal bro
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>>333892026
Pokemon Adventures is shit.
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>>333877728
>>333877124
I never understood why they redid every single sprite for the US and JP release
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>>333892926

>5th Gen
>hate Unfezeant
>want MURRIKA BIRD
>doesn't Evolve until level 55
>Rufflet is useless until then compared to the rest of my team

fuck Gen 5 with its late evolving pokemon
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>>333893208
I'm not disagreeing with you I'm asking for some examples, because I really don't think it's accurate.

maybe YOU'RE the one who doesn't have a rebuttal, bro.
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>>333892682
They don't break the single player game because the stats you get from them are tied to level. So they won't make a huge difference until later on when you probably would have maxed them out just from fighting anyway. In Gen 1, you could max out the EVs of all stats. That's way more broken.
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>>333892687
>MUH ADVENTURE version
That's one of the main appeals: actually enjoying the main game. It doesn't sound like much, but with Pokemon games getting easier and easier, nuzlockes are becoming much more fun since the challenge lets you enjoy each and every trainer battle. If you don't like trying new things, maybe you should stick to competitive battling.

I love the Battle Factory too. Me and my brother played that non-stop just getting random mons and working with them.
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>>333892926
Pretty much this. I agree 100%.
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>>333890732
Play Y.
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>>333892682
...like the EXP Share, just ignore it until post-game. Both make the main game boring, but they're a godsend in post-game.
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>>333893451
Hi the guy you replied to isn't me, I'm this guy
>>333891458
I think I understand the appeal. I suppose it could be fun to use a ragtag gang of Pokemon instead of gathering the best of the best to steamroll every trainer. However the one thing I still don't understand is "death". It just doesn't seem right to me and should be a part of a different challenge altogether.
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>>333892926
I'd rather have pokemon that can evolve around the early to mid 30's but reward you for waiting by making it learn stronger moves earlier. That's usually incentive enough for me to wait. The late evolution is the main reason why I've never had Mandibuzz in my team even though it's one of my favorite pokemon.
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>>333893802
The xp share can be completely ignored, but EVs can't, since there's so many EVs a poke can get and you get them at every battle, so you're supossed to try and max the good ones as early as possible.
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>>333890732
platinum is good but not much is new compared to pearl and diamond, black and white are good, black2 and white2 are slightly better. x and y and ORAS are not very good.
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So do you think the new game will finally have a dark type gym, or will it be forever E4?
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>>333893902
well nothing is set in stone, the rules are entirely self-imposed so you could make a permutation that fits your desires.
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>>333892682
How do EVs break single player if they don't take full effect until level 100

dumb kid
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>>333879797
blastoise has one type
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>>333890732
platinum is great, black and white are the worst but still worth playing, and yes black 2 and white 2 are God tier.
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>>333894128
I may give it a shot one day if I ever feel like playing a Pokemon game again. To be honest I'm really burnt out on them nowadays.
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>>333893207
EVs need level 100 to take full effect
All other games had EVs as well except gen1

Stop talking like you know things
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>>333894218
the 100 power and 90 accuracy with good chance to freeze makes it worth it.
I remember plowing through blue with a starmie that had blizzard.
Either i was the luckiest man in the world, or blizzard was actually good enough to freeze anything I needed.
I always used to speculate if the game just always skewed the odds in the players favor or something.
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>>333873236
Yeah thats definitely the only reason. It can't be because of the nerfed gym battles or all the fucking hand holding.
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>>333889789
wut

none of that makes any sense except for 2/3 of the gen 1 starters looking like dinosaurs (squirtle's clearly a turtle)
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>>333891773
Damn, retards arguing on an anonymous website will never cease to amuse me.
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>>333893902
Sorry for the confusion. Anyway, the whole "death" part is the main challenge of nuzlockes. Keeping your men alive means that you have to treat every fight with focus. It also ends up molding your endgame team because with every dead mon, you have to reconsider your entire team. Like I said before, it also gives most of your Pokemon sentimental value because that random mon probably saved your bacon a few times.

Honestly, I love playing nuzlockes. You get to see the game differently every time. Sometimes you'll get lucky, others you're going to have to train that Bidoof. It's that variety that makes it so interesting.
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>>333894429
Gen 1 did have EVs. They just worked differently and you could max them all out instead of having to spread a set amount of points. They were the reason why traded pokemon were weaker.
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>>333894469
that's not what that reply chain was about, though
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>>333874245
Telling the lies again, Jhonny?
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>>333875158
Nigga my HM slaves werr a Poliwrath from wondertrade and a Farfetch'd the game gave you and since they were traded they were at the same level as my party. Poliwrath solo'd the dragon elite afrer he was switched in due to Dragon Tail.
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>>333883651
>there are retards on this board who think pokemon games have ever been hard
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honestly the first pokemon games were kind of held together with twine and wood glue, there was a lot of code that could only work by relying on another piece of code that only works by relying on a third piece of code and so on. so you get weird shit like types not working how they're supposed to. I wouldn't be surprised if that's why there are no pure flying or ghost types in gen 1. Hell ghost barely worked at all. I mean do you have any idea how little data fits inside an original gameboy cartridge?
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>>333894603
Oh, my bad.
I haven't slept in like 2 days.
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>>333894014
You can always reset the EVs for post-game with one of those white training bags. You don't NEED to get good EVs for main game because the game isn't too hard as it is.
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>>333876585
You must be 18 years or older to browse this imageboard
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>>333889789
>Gen 2 starters look like Savannah animals.
Chikorita is clearly a dinosaur and those flowers look more like jungle stuff than Savannah
>Gen 3 look like they would be at home in the swamp or jungle
Yeah, all those jungle and swamp chickens, right?
>Gen 4 look like they are city dwellers.
Penguins are city-dwellers? And a tortoise and monkey? What?
>Gen 5 look like they are country bumpkins.
How is an otter a country bumpkin?
>Gen 6 look like the pets of fashion models.
Yeah, I'm sure fashion models love frogs.
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>>333894678
Mystery Dungeon's post-game ones that follow typical Mystery Dungeon mechanics?
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Im just gonna go ahead and say it.
GF was never a competent studio. They were just a bunch of nobody programmers that got lucky. Even Iwata, programming genius, had to save there asses by fixing all their bugged out games constantly. Now that they are an established studio, and given the fact that those same shit programmers from the 90's are still working there, they decided to stick with the same formula, but more dumbed down. Especially since Iwata isn't here to save them any more if they make a bad egg.
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>>333889994
probably because it's the one they first played as kids.
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>>333895057
>implying my perfect clean waifu doesn't shave
fucking ape
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>>333884359
>Bug moves overpowered
What the fuck are you talking about? Bugtype attacks were completely worthless in Gen 1.
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>>333884928
Almost like the gen 2 games are tied in to gen 1's region heavily. Also, there's only a hundred Gen 2 mons, so...
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>>333883814
If I'm not mistaken, tangela was the only pure grass type.
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>>333895230
Jolteon is go fast enough that non-stab Pin Missile is anti-Psychic technology.
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>>333895230
>Playing Gen 1
>Using Parasect
>Spore
>Swords Dance
>Leech Life sweep everything
It was a different time.
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Idk last pokemon game i played was omega ruby from nostaliga. Hadnt played one in year bought a 3ds just to play it. I do very little if at all grinding. I dont pick natures i use what i catch. I do ev train but not crazly with thr super trainer. When i made it to victory road i was expecting a gay ice slide puzzle. It wasnt there and i stomped victory road. Normally i would lvl up some before the elite 4 but i just healed and went at them right away. Swept them like they where shit on my shoe. These games are alot easier then i remembered.
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>>333890732

BW2 are excellent. There is a save import feature so I recommend finding a Pokeautist you know IRL to download their BW save.
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>>333895210
She's a beautiful, elegant, mature woman. Her beauty is only made more extreme with a natural, hairy anus and underarms. You can't handle her choice to not shave and you can't handle her as a woman.
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>>333895436
>btw I had exp share on the whole time
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>>333894678
nice strawman, never said that

But you're only proving the point further by basically saying that pokemon is casual in the first place, and there are people that are so casual that they need to use exp-share in fucking POKEMON
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>>333895542
Might as well just say she shouldn't take a shower or wear any attractive clothing because it's unnatural.
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>>333896561
Your right, she shouldn't shower. My tongue is all she needs.

>clothing

laf.
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>>333896695
So basically you want a fat slob who smells like farts and is covered in her own grease stains. Again you're a fucking ape.
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>>333896825
Fuck, you're retarded son.

I'm done with your strawmanning ass. Go outside and lick some cow pies, boy. It's all a simpleton like you could possibly be good at.
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My team is kind of underleveled (8-11 behind Sidney's Absol, lvl. 52), should I level up the weaker ones or just try again? I made it up to Steven, but I couldn't get past his Cradily.
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>>333891270
you are fucking horrible at pokemon if you honestly think this. it's basically the exact same curve all the pre-gen 5 games have.
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>>333897042
You are basically saying you don't want a woman who takes care of herself. You are a fucking ape.
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>>333894678

Colosseom was tough at times and Gale of Darkness has a meaty final boss if you play the fight properly.
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