OnNeogaf, someone says they completed the new Ratchet and Clank in under 6 hours. This has harshed my buzz
>>333833856
What did you expect from a $40 movie tie-in?
>>333833856
What about collectibles?
>>333833856
wow someone rushed the game in 6 hours? incredible!
>>333833856
It's $40 ($32 on Amazon Prime), 6 hours ain't great but it's not a full priced game. It also comes with a ticket for the movie if you care about that kind of stuff.
>>333834054
I expected something the length of the original game tbqfh
>>333834165
>It also comes with a ticket for the movie if you care about that kind of stuff
lol, not unless you're in brazil
Oh that would explain the price
>>333834185
You can finish the original game in under 6 hours.
>tbqfh
Kill yourself.
>>333834054
You mean a game that is based on a movie that is based on a game franchise that has been going for ages and had a constant level of quality until now?
Someone here said they did it in 5 yesterday
>>333834294
As a first run-through? Doubt it trout it.
I wonder how much they casualized the final level
>>333833856
luckily im still in time to cancel my preorder.
releases pn the 20th in europe
You fucking retard. It isnt even full price.
My biggest gripe isn't even the fucking lenght, it's the fucking frame count. The game is capped at god damn 30 fps.
>>333834450
Hopefully a lot, because it was ridiculous, especially the boss.
How long did the game take originally??
>>333834360
The original Ratchet is like 8-9 hours to play at a casual pace, 6 hours is fucking ezy mode if you don't fuck around grinding/exploring/completing everything, which faggots these days don't.
>>333834250
>lol, not unless you're in brazil
Wait, it's a Brazil exclusive? What the fuck
Oh well, I probably wouldn't have seen the movie anyway.
>>333834523
It took me about 14 hours recently.
>>333833856
He was here yesterday, posted screenshots and shit. He said that more than half of the planets from the original game are missing, that all the levels are linear and that you don't spend not even 30 minutes on each planet.
Also that character development is not consistent because the game just assumes that you watched the movie and that many characters just appear for 5 minutes on the screen because nostalgia.
>>333834185
The original game was short as fuck.
>>333834592
I think my 100% run was around the 15-16 hour mark.
>>333834612
>He said that more than half of the planets from the original game are missing, that all the levels are linear and that you don't spend not even 30 minutes on each planet.
Jesus fuck I hope this isn't the case.
Any good reviews out yet?
>>333834612
that sounds bad but it explains why Sony thought this should be a $40 release.
>>333834767
Embargo is Monday m8
http://opencritic.com/
>>333833856
"That means that the game was so good that they couldn't stop playing!"
Also, they probably went straight to the objective of every planet
>>333834813
if it scores over a 75 on metacritic I think that will be acceptable for a discounted remake of an old game with a movie tie-in
Some random indian reviewer gave it a 9/10. Hopefully its not a disappointment as i was more looking forward to this than uncharted.
>>333835281
The original has an 88 on metacritic so it at least has to beat that.
>>333834612
A few of the planets are now merged too I believe (Hoven & Batalia, Orxon & Quartu, Umbris & g34?). I could be very wrong about those though. Shame about Otlantis and the Gemlik base though, they were great levels in the original.
>>333835510
No it doesn't, that's not a realistic goal for a budget remake.
Very few PS4 / Xbox One exclusives have scored that high.
>>333835281
No, anything below 80 means the game sucks - even in 2016 when scores have become less generous.
>a video game to promotea low budget cgi movie is bad
Probably wait for a sale, 20 bucks is the highest I'll go when I can still play the original.
>>333835805
>Believing scores make games good
>>333835684
Agreed, two of the spookier levels with great atmospheric music. Made me think a lot about Ratchet's character too, he's busy chasing down Quark to get back at him while the whole planet's burning below as Drek's army tears it apart. The thought that thousands of miles away, but still within site people are getting blown to pieces while this music plays, I haven't gotten a feeling like it since.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Go4_grJPFiQ
>>333835684
I can't really remember the original at all. This is kind of disappointing though. I was expecting it to be almost identical.
>>333833856
I finished the original PS2 game in less than four hours last time I played it.
All the games can be beat in under 6 if you rush.
Stop being a dramatic faggot OP.
>being excited for a LITERAL rehash in the first place
PS4cucks are pathetic
>>333833856
>1/3rd of the planets are missing
gee I wonder why it took him 6 hours
>>333833856
I couldn't care less if it's 6 or 12 hours any more. I just hope it's good.
I've played literally 0 games this year that I can call "good", and I'm hoping that won't stay true for another 2 months.
>no arena
>no skill points (replaced by trophies)
>11 planets IIRCnot including the Phoenix which is just a chase sequence
>only 2 new weapons (a shotgun and a Sunset Overdrive reskin)
>only 2 Gadgetron weapons (one of which actually an All 4 One port w/ a different name)
>no armor
>Nefarious is the final boss
>No Drek fight
>Drek is dispatched in a CUTSCENE by Nefarious
>No Von Ion fight
>but we get a Mrs. Zurkon boss fight because it's quirky :)
I was hyped for this, but what the fuck.
>>333836243
They address it by having Quark narrate the story, so he'd omit things or get things wrong. Still doesn't make sense to me that the Blarg would show up on Veldin that early though. And I don't really like how Ratchet's immediately friendly to Clank, him being kind of distant and building a relationship with Clank over the course of the game was better.
>>333833856
Almost every ratchet game is less than 10 hours. I dont know why, though. The entire games are mostly static levels with enemies placed around them. Should be 100 hours long
GUYS YOU ARE KILLING MY HYPE STOP PLS
>>333836548
Souce or fake
>short = bad
I want this meme to end.
>>333836659
The second one has a lot of extra stuff with the arena, races and ship missions, deserts the museum and generally levelling up weapons on subsequent playthroughs.
>>333834450
>>333834489
Veldin was piss easy compared to Kalebo 3 and it's hover board race, the planet Clank was born on and the level where you don't have Clank
>>333836797
You are incorrect.
>>333833856
its the first game just wiht new graphics
and yes its very possible to beat it in 6 hours
>>333836548
That's very sad if it's true. I mean, I'll still play it eventually but I was looking forward to a full-fledged ground up remake of the entire game. Explains why it's only $40 at launch though.
On the other hand, the handful of reviews that have already leaked out say it's fantastic. I can live with a trimmed down remake if it's well done I guess. But I'm going to wait until it's cheap.
>>333836858
Visibomb Gun senpai, the areas are so open and there's no hard platforming
For the last boss Devastator, Bomb glove, blaster and you're gold
>>333837084
Don't forget the suck cannon to use Drek's needle mines against him.
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lRGDDWb.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
Why can't they just make another R&C game that was like the Future games? Those were fantastic. They were a blast to play, they were loaded with content, they had an appropriate platformer story just interesting enough to carry the games, and they ran at 60fps and looked fantastic, and that was on PS3. You can't tell me they're unable to make a fantastic looking 60fps R&C game on PS4.
I mean this new game still looks good, but not as good. Nothing after A Crack in Time has been as good as everything before it was.
>>333837647
I'd prefer a classic Ratchet in the style of 2 or 3.
>>333834321
>Size Matters
>Quest For Booty
>Nexus
>All the spinoffs
Yeah, real constant quality.
>>333837647
>The fps thing is getting on my nerves
>>333837647
Insomniac is a shell of its former self after the company restructuring following the release of CiT
I never played the original R&C games so I'll get more playability out of it, surely.
I need something to justify my PS4 collecting dust next to my PC.
>>333838409
Everything from ToD onwards felt kinda soulless too.
>>333837647
The studio's going through a transition period and changes a lot from where it came from. The success of GTA caused Insomniac and a number of other studios to change their themes and focus more on action ( see Jak and Daxter to Jak 2). The Resistance franchise was propped up by Sony, even though it underperformed as it went on in sales, although I thought the third one was really good. Attempts to branch out have not gone well, Overstrike/Fuse was a fiasco and Sunset Overdrive got a Munch's Oddysee effect; people weren't compelled to switch platform for a new game and even with marketing covered by Microsoft, the game didn't perform that well given the studio's track record. A remake of R&C 1 is a safe bet with the movie coming out and they probably won't try something new for a while.
>>333834456
What. Why is this an issue?
>>333838498
Nigger what? Tools of Destruction was great.
>>333838592
Because PCucks think that fps have to be 60 because 30 "it's to low", when, only matters and gets fucked up when goes under 25
>>333839019
It was fun, but the tone was totally different. I didn't like any of the characters and they were constantly shoved in your face. I don't care about anyone as much as I did... Say, Al.
>>333839083
Is it confirmed to be stable in this iteration?
Because it dipped all the time in Nexus.
>>333839083
>he thinks playing like this is acceptable
Kill yourself famicom
>>333838592
It's a Reddit meme that's taken over.
60 fps is superior to 30fps of course, but there's nothing wrong or inexcusable about 30fps like /v/ and Reddit insists there are.
This game is a tie in with a feature film so 30fps makes a lot more sense, since they're trying to make it look identical to the movie (and from everything I've seen they succeeded).
>>333833856
Just another half-assed game from Insomniac. Can't say I'm sad to see them fail after their press release saying they aren't going to put the resources into making games 60 fps anymore. Sunset Overdrive and Fuse was like them getting their comeuppance.
Just a shame that they decided to crawl back to the franchise that put them on the map and drag it down with them.
>>333839264
Which one am I supposed to be mad at?
The one on the left makes me feel like I'm going to throw up.
>>333839440
you answered your own question
>>333838592
Are you serious? You cannot be serious. 60 fps is essential to have a plyable action game, I wouldn't mind 30 fps in a story-centric game. It's a fucking game not a movie you daft cunt.
>>333835905
>low budget cgi
Have you seen the trailer
It looks pretty fucking good to me
>>333836740
What do you need source on, famiglia?
The spoilered stuff I got from recent Youtube videos. Somebody uploaded all cutscenes + the final boss fight.
Levels are
>Veldin
>Novalis
>Kerwan
>Aridia
>Rilgar
>Nebula G34
>Gaspar
>Batalia
>Pokitaru
>Quartu
>Kalebo
>Deplanetizer
with a small Phoenix section.
So it's 12 levels / 13 depending on your definition. My bad.
>>333839264
Honestly the dull drab colorless and overall ugliness of everything turns me off so much I can't even be bothered to get mad at the framerate.
>>333839318
Yeah. And the movie is based on the original fucking game (which ran at 60 fps). Thus, going by your autistoc retards logic, it is more than resonble for the movie to be rendered at 60 fps.
Holy shit. You are actually fucking stupid. Kys.
>>333834767
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/reviews/ratchet-clank-review-823803
First review score is a 9/10
>>333839264
My head hurts. How can people endure that kind of an experience for more than a minute?
>>333839318
This, but it only applies to steady 30fps. If that shit drops below 25 regularly and sub 20 in action sequences it's just plain unacceptable. Period. End of sentence.
>>333839665
It looks great, animation wise, as good as any Pixar/Disney film. That doesn't mean it's not low-budget though. The fact that they didn't have to pay any A-list actors to do the voicework means it's probably significantly lower in budget than your average animated feature.
>>333839738
This, the left looks terrible. I could understand it being capped at 30 if it looked good, the new Ratchet definitely impressed, but that game is just bland.
>>333833856
That's how short they've always been. They just feel longer because you've gotta level up your weapons.
Quest for Booty and Into the Nexus were like 2 or 3 hours each.
>>333839264
I honestly cannot tell the difference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9GXxgh__3Q
>>333839865
Your head hurts because you're looking at two separate instances of people running in circles. Not because of the lower framerate.
>>333840052
That's because Quest for Booty and Nexus were 0.5 rather than another actual sequel.
>>333833856
Feel free to omit the fact that he played on normal, hardly did any side activities and exploring.
>>333839083
Fuck off if you don't think there's a tangible difference between 60 and 30fps. Fuck, I could tell the difference between playing at 50 and 60hz on the PS2 Ratchets.
>>333840036
>Sylvester Stalone
>not A-Rank
>>333840260
The RYNO salesman redesign is garbage yeesh.
>>333840391
Bear in mind this isn't a sequel either. It's a movie tie-in. Either way, I think 6 hours is fine for a Ratchet & Clank game, provided it still has Newgame +
Will the movie be good?
>>333838529
Resistance 3 had a real cool feeling to it imo. I wish they would've kept the coop from 2, but at least I still had a good time with the single player. That opening was fucking perfect
>>333840417
Wait, Ratchet has difficult levels now? wtf?
>>333840771
at least they aren't hilariously off model like the Sly Cooper movie.
>>333840810
Did you even play the first game?
Wasn't this game suppose to be in 60 fps originally?
Am I the only one happy with the direction R&C has taken? I think the new game looks great and I'm glad they put in the holo-plans and cards to unlock the boss weapons instead of grinding for bolts like in the old games.
>>333840771
Probably.
>inb4 it's Disney/Pixar levels of formulaic cancer and not Dreamworks quality
I'd be sad beyond words.
>>333840903
Uhh, yes, did you? It didn't have any difficulty levels.
>>333840952
Oh wait, your misspelling made me misunderstand
>>333840903
why would i it was gay as fuck and ugly kiddie game
just surprised they'd give a kid game anymore difficulty mode than "easy" and "babby shit
>>333840881
Why did they give Sly pants?
>>333841046
Well you're wrong either way. None of the levels were difficult, and it also didn't have difficulty levels.
>>333840918
Yeah.
What not a lot of people realize is that Insomniac pushed the PS2 to its limits just to get R&C to run as well as it did.
>>333841081
Trying way to hard friend
>>333837647
The ps2 games are better than the ps3 games
>>333834185
So... under 6 hours?
>>333840932
Dreamworks is very inconsistent with their quality, sometimes you get stuff like HTTYD and Kung-Fu Panda but other times you get this
http://youtu.be/4rdMgJJ2exQ
>>333840776
I was always bummed Killzone became the Sony FPS franchise. I thought Resistance was way more unique and better made.
A new Resistance on PS4 would make my dick perma erect. But after Fuse bombed I doubt Insomniac would try again.
>>333841274
>trying on 4chan
gay little weebs cant handle a nigga keepin it a stack
>>333841518
Just looked that up--apparently Sony filed for a Resistance trademark in early 2015, as they own the IP
Umhhhhhhh, why people forgetting that the first game was also under 6 hours?
>>333841497
Yeah, but Disney at their best has never been as good as Dreamworks at their worst.
Why does history give so much emphasis? Walt Disney was an animator, not a storyteller. He never wrote a single work, and he rarely credited source material, and his company has become just as cancerous.
Just to keep things /v/, Disney equivalents of vidya...
>Inafune
>Miyamoto
>Nomura
I hate this culture of praising nobodies who just doodle goofy (no pun intended) characters and receive credit for decades of projects they didn't work on.
>>333841518
Resistance ended. It wasn't a case of Sony not wanting IG to make a sequel and we all know how Burning Skies turned out.
>>333841843
Hmm could mean there getting someone else to make it. Could be bad or good.
>>333841882
you fucking hipster
disney is much better
>>333842090
That's true. It was mostly just me wanting to say that world again. Insomniac really made a destroyed world beautiful to look at. Plus I loved the mixing of WW2 weapons with alien tech.
>>333842108
Yeh bruv. Tbh after shadowfall I wouldn't mind never seeing killzone again. Resistance is crazy underrated
>>333841882
>Yeah, but Disney at their best has never been as good as Dreamworks at their worst.
You are a rare breed of contrarian faggot.
>>333841882
The only one counts in there is Inafune who has never directed a single video game ever.
>>333833856
NeoGAF is a gaming enthusiast forum. Your average joe would probably take longer.
>>333839440
>>333839865
Laying it on a bit thick, don't you think?
>they made the game 30FPS so that it would be longer than 2 hours
Nice remake sonytards
>>333840436
>tfw dirty european ratchet player
>mfw watching some american footage on youtube
Holy fucking shit that fucking smoothness
>>333840276
My heaf hurt from looking at the left image you cuckold.
>>333842870
There's something wrong with you.
Get your eyes checked.
>Ratchet and clank 1 = 7 hours
>Ratchet and clank 2 = 7 hours
>Ratchet and clank 3 = 6 hours 45 minutes
>Ratchet and clank TOD = 7 hours 18 minutes
>Ratchet and clank ACIT = 8 hours
>Ratchet and clank Nexus = 4 hours 16 minutes
Those were my times, the new game being around 6 hours seems to be right, of course everybody has their nostalgia glasses on and remembers the originals being 20+ hours or something stupid like that.
>>333839264
So the one of the left looks like it feels like an actual video game while the one on the right looks like it was made in Blender by some student for his animation class, got it.
Does the remake use the original OST or is it all new music?
>>333833856
so when do you guys think there going to release the remakes of 2 and 3?
>>333843167
I hope it's as replayable as 2 and 3.
So is it confirmed to have an unfunny, pixar tier dialogue?
>>333843478
They would have to make a remake of the 1 first
This is a reboot
>>333843167
>of course everybody has their nostalgia glasses on and remembers the originals being 20+ hours or something stupid like that.
>The first three games were 30 hours I swear!
>>333843293
New stuff. Going for the more orchestral stuff used in the Future series.
>>333833856
I remember playing 2&3 back to back in the same day when I was like 13 years old. These games have always been pretty damn short.
>>333843167
the older games had a fuckton of replayability.
>>333843639
Damn. I never really thought that the music in R&C was particularly remarkable, but when they replaced the original composer it made me realise how much better the old stuff was.
>>333839264
You're gonna have to actually use a good game for that kind of comparison famalam.
>>333843774
So will the new game, it'll still have gold bolts along with other collectibles and you can just replace skill points with trophies.
>>333843814
Ya the older games had more unique music for sure. The stuff in Future wasn't bad. It's all composed well but it certainly lacks the unique flavor of the older games.
>>333840036
James Arnold Taylor is pretty A-list.
>>333843975
the new game doesn't even have NG+
>>333844108
Yes it does. Stop spreading bullshit.
>>333844108
Yes, it does.
>>333843639
>love songs with unique and not to often heard instruments, and soundfonts
>all of that gets turned in to orchestra shit
>tfw no courtney gears
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4SsMtmcf4w
>>333844481
To be fair she doesn't appear in the first game
>>333841497
>that half second of the fat troll twerking
>>333839264
The left one doesn't look like solid 30fps. It looks like inconsistent sub 30 fps.
