Even though Dark Souls 1 has better designed levels, more interesting and varied bosses, no bullshit auto-lock homing attacks that follow you unless you dodge at the perfect moment and arguably better lore..
I still prefer Dark Souls 2. There's something about the look, the feel and the sound of that game that I just prefer to Dark Souls 1, even though I absolutely adore that game too.
Am I the only one who thinks this?
>inb4 crucified by /v/.
Anyway, while I wait for Dark Souls 3 I did a run through of 1 and now I'm on my run through of 2. Anyone else doing the same? What build are you going for?
>>333815087
The feel of dark souls 1 is more mysterious, fantasy like. In dark souls 2 it's more empty and forgettable.
>>333815087
Same here. 5 hours and next to Anal Rodeo archers. Also skipped Depths because I didn't want to deal with papa Capra and his puppies but I'll go back later.
I doubt I will be able to run through whole vanilla DaS2 + DLCs before DaS3 launch, though.
>>333815250
You can if you believe!
>>333815087
DS 1 has better designed levels, more interesting and varied bosses whilst DS2 is more fun to play.
hey, remember when /v/ was gushing for MONTHS about this game on how it was absolutely better than DaS1 (and Demon's) because of its improvements to gameplay?
what happened?
>>333815087
What's the best version to get the first Dark Souls? I don't know which is the most complete.
>>333815991
>/v/ is one person
A few people here have taste as shit as your own; the majority rightfully call DS2 a soulless, uninspired cash grab rehash.
>>333816258
Get the Steam version. Can run dsfix and at 60fps with high res texture mod if your hardware is good enough.
>>333815392
I'd love to but I have stuff to do tomorrow, anon.
DaS2 have always felt rushed for me since launch, but I enjoyed it's gameplay a lot more than the first one and I feel Vendrick's story is more captivating than Gwyn's. About level design it has some questionable level design choices, mostly because of how rushed this game was. Not saying that DaS didn't had any bad areas, but they were few.
What bugs me is, No Man's Wharf should've been more relevant than just being the newcomers' anal-ravaging alternative to Forest of Fallen Giants.
>>333816273
>rightfully call DS2 a soulless, uninspired cash grab rehash
yeah, fuck that noise.
it doesn't pay attention to the little things as much as Demon's and DaS1 did, but you have to be fucking retard moron to discard this game as a so-called cheap production.
What controller do you guys recommend for PC Dark Souls?
People seem to say DS4 but it's like twice the price and requires unofficial software to work and the DS3 was always a pain every 6 months I wanted to use a controller for a game.
On my way to kill a butterfly.
>>333815087
You could post the RPS article to make it more obvious.
>>333816575
probably the xbone controller instead of the 360, because then you don't have to use the fucktard bumpers for crucial main functions like shield defence and main attack, respectively
>>333816575
Steam Controller, I haven't touched any of my others since.
>>333815250
If you finish ds1 in more 6 hours you can if you are good enough already
Ds2 difficulty lies in abusing you for not knowing the mechanics, its pretty short imo
>>333816273
do you taste your own shit?
>>333816575
Xbox one controller (versions with the audio jack)
>>333816508
Or, yknow, someone who cares about gameplay and wasn't shit at DS1.
Besides, it's a simple fact that dark souls is a miyazaki only type of deal. Remove miyazaki, and the only similarities between the games are in name only.
>>333815087
i respect your opinion OP, but dks1 is still objectively the better game.
>>333817046
you faggots are pretending like it's the difference between DMC1 and DMC2, which is simply not the case
I hit autistic levels of hype for DaS3 today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDrvVsSq8rE
>>333817202
It completely is that different though.
>ds1
>never ever a situation where you get swarmed unless you're impatient or shit
>be smart and you'll do fine
>ds2
>"you pull de leber and 7 monster drob on you in arena wid no escape"
>"are u habbing diffigult time? :DD"
If you can't tell the difference between cheap difficulty and regular difficulty, I don't know what to say.
>>333817510
get gud, fag
>>333817553
I did, both with 1 and 2.
If you took your own advice you'd see why ds1 is the better game.
I'm trying to beat all of the bosses in DaS2 before DaS3 launches, and all I have left is the Lud/Zallen fight and Nashandra/Aldia.
>these horses
JUST FUCK MY DLC UP SENPAI
Is there an easier way to get to the boss than just following the wall??
Apparently you can power stance two weapons. I never knew this /v/ what the fuck.
Now my two sword wielding badass can finally be a reality.
>>333817510
>Dark Souls 1
>Never ever swarmed
Suuuuure.
Lower Undead Burg, ground level. At least 5 Undead by the gate, aggro one and 5-6 immedately aggro after you.
>>333815087
Just started a bandit knife only run in ds1. Been putting this shit off for years, it's been....interesting. The chuckle fuck brothers were surprisingly easier than I expected, but I shudder at the thought of fighting the burger kings. I have no strategy for them....i'm scared...
>>333817942
Those Deer get destroyed easily by blunt weapons. I just carried a greatclub down there with me and oneshotted them.
>>333818213
doesn't everything get destroyed by blunt weapons in Dark Souls II?
>>333818482
pretty much
>>333817510
>>never ever a situation where you get swarmed unless you're impatient or shit
Kill yourself, retard.
>>333818085
But if you take it slowly and you know how to back up, you can take them out without getting swarmed. Besides, it's fucking undead, they are easy as shit
>>333818085
Their AI allows for you to lead them away 1 at a time despite them all being in attack mode. They also die in 1 hit and have 0 poise.
>>333818657
Stay mad faggot.
>>333818771
>stay mad
I can't be so made that i make up lies to defend a game, like you're doing.
>>333818936
>getting swarmed is being against more than 1 (one) enemy
>>333815991
NO.
You are either lying through your teeth, or, more likely, you just werent here for the MONTHS of silence that followed the games initial release, you new, fucking faggot.
The base release was and is so terrible that anons refused to either make, or talk in threads about das2.
These "DaS2 is best" threads DID NOT appear until after the rerelease of the sotfs version. I guarantee you that anyone who makes these lame bait threads are Pc/nexgen Sotfs apologists who werent around for just how horrible the base game was. People who have literally ONLY played Sotfs DaS2.
I should know because ive had friends that fit into that exact category. They get shitty false memes shoved into their heads by /vg/ shills about how every other game in the series besides das2 is bad or "broken" and they pompously believe it
Without ever playing other games.
Its a fact that uner that sugarcoat of a new retexture, the base redesigns of das2s systems are objectively worse, and casualize the fuck out of every aspect of the game INCLUDING pvp. When I convinced a friend who bragged about how "mlg" he was at rolling in das2 fight clubs, he promptly got btfo by ninjarollers and just couldnt keep up, while using a shitty quality build. Adp as a stat makes people feel more "skilled" than they actually are. Das2 has bred the worst side of the souls community ever. Its killed natural invasions. Thank god das3 will have a better order to things, and return to grounded das/des conventions.
DaS2 is bullshit. It's even pathetic game compared to Bloodborne.
>>333815087
Your opinion is actually good
Things DaS does better
>originality, was a rehash of demons but at least they bothered to make a new world and lore
>story
>atmosphere
>level and world design
>overall approach to difficulty
>doesn't put 50 enemies between a boss and the nearest bonfire that you HAVE to kill or they will grab your ass as you try to enter the fog door
Things DaS2 does better
>discourages tryhard minmaxing by removing joke dump stats like RES
>weapon variety
>enemy variety
>arguably longer
>makes NG+ more interesting
>>333818936
I never said anything about multiple enemies, but i'll bite anyway.
Literally all of these "gank situations" save for maybe the crows, spincats, and oolacile mages are easily avoided by simply backing up or funneling then down to a nearby narrow point that is somehow always conveniently placed near the groups of enemies, but then again i'm replying to something in which someone is seriously calling fucking pinwheel a threat.
Lemme spell it out for you. The difference between 1 and 2 is this: You can choose to not get swarmed by swarms in one, and in two you just have to fight the poise stacking swarms because muh difficulty and perfect uncanny deadangling.
>>333817510
Thats not what makes das2 bad faggot. theres no artificial difficulty.
What makes DaS2 bad is its stat redesign, SM completely fucking you if you level up more than 1 weapon or remove agape ring, As well as uninspired bosses that somehow die in just a couple hits even in ng++. Furthermore animation lock is very clunky, and weapon combos do not link fluidly, as well as the forced stall time to any pvp interaction made to dumb the combat down for casuals. It all comes down to rolling for half an hour as a display of '''''''''''''''''SKILL''''''''''''''''' oh boy! ADP sure makes up for peoples actual lack thereof!
Furthermore, removal of most hyperarmor, poise, shielding, parry prediction due to wonky netcode and displaced frames, as well as nerfing to any backstab or critical, means the only way to play is either
A. stack stamina for r1 spamm
B. Roll for 2 hours
C. Abuse bad netcode to magic like a nigger
and D. backstep and parry spam while doing all of the above.
Seriously. the pvp is shit, objecively casualized for mlg babbies to feel sooper eleet. i cant wait to fuck you all raw in DaS3 you miserable piles of maggot-brained shilling garbage. I WILL KILL YOU AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN. LORDRAN WILL FLOW WITH RIVERS OF YOUR BLOOD YOU DUMB, IGNORANT ELITIST IDIOTS.
>>333819548
Cool post. Too bad your ideal situation applies to the majority of "ganking" in DaS2 too. Outside that one trap room in Harvest Valley it doesn't really apply to the game.
>>333818198
man, I thought that it would be harder, but actually anon, bleeding shit out fast isnt to hard. the elite four arent too bad if you hit em with priscillas dagger, if youre up for puttin the bandits aside for one battle.
>>333818482
And in DaS as well. Normal reinforced club fucks the world up and makes level 1 runs very viable
>>333819913
Except you can't in the vast majority of cases unless you use magic or some other form of ranged cheese, and i'm not a faggot so I stick to my quality builds.
>>333818936
none of those swarmed you.
All of them came at you one by one/had a specific aggro range.
The only one that is legitimately threatening on that list is giant skeleton dogs near nitos tomb, but thats because they can quickly 1shot you if you poisestacked and you eat all there chomps.
to be quite honest, if you arent 1shotting ALL these bitch mobs, you suck at making a decent build in general.
Kingdom of the rats
>played Dark Souls 2 to the point I know the game off by heart
>decide to use Cheat Engine to mess around with it in offline mode and see what crazy shit I can do.
>open cheat engine while playing.
>"Blah blah blah a strange program has been detected by anti cheat please close it and restart the game."
>mfw I'm now gonna get soft banned and all I did was open a fucking external program.
>dark souls 3 will be final souls game
uh...
>>333820275
0.1% chance
>>333815087
so does dark souls 3 come out monday night or tuesday in the am? I'm looking for the EST time
>>333820275
final dark souls game not last souls like game from fromsoftware
>>333819350
>discourages tryhard minmaxing
KEK Adp was the biggest joke stat EVERYONE had to spec.
>Weapon variety
oh boy, a billion different reskins, this time they dont even have unique r2s like das had whooooooooo wow
>Enemy variety
copied and pasted from previous games
as for das
>overall approach to difficulty
game is as difficult as you make it for yourself.
its certainly easier once youre swinging something oversized around.
>>333820275
until sci-fi souls
>>333820275
Good. Let there be some originallity. I don't want a rehash every year or so. Trying to be as good as it's former self while just being in it's shadows and being a cashgrab like all COD games past 4.
>>333820203
Im not the guy you're responding to but
quality builds?
are you speccing dex like some kinda asshole?
faggot.
>>333820203
Except you can.
>>333820210
>All of them came at you one by one/had a specific aggro range.
They really don't. Everything has a specific aggro range.
>>333820203
Sounds like you just prefer to play unintelligently. Using a different type if attack is more cheese than gaming the idiot AI so you can melee everything?
>>333820350
Check steam discussions, it's a stickey.
>>333820365
I'm looking forward to Armored Souls
>Been playing DaS1 heaps recently
>Decided to give DaS2 another shot
>That fucking DEADZONE
Who the FUCK thought putting a massive deadzone in the controls would be good? Why would anyone even do that?
>>333819831
Woah there, bro. Watch that blood pressure.
I'm sick of modern/future setting in shooters but wouldn't mind a space age setting for the next souls game.
>mfw abandoned space station ayy lmao horror setting
Lightsabers and warhammers go go.
I missed this place.
>>333820462
Das2 is notorious for having scripted like aggros. Most enemy ganks can't be pulled one by one, not even with a throwing knife or bow.
>>333820462
yes, and by walking forward carefully, you could trip them ONE by One.
unlike in das2 where enemies have linked aggro, to the extreme in iron keep sotfs.
not that I had a problem with my great club. but it was tedious as fuck.
not to mention if I didnt have agape glued to me, my online would have been fucked.
>>333820490
They took out the Deadzone in DSIII
>>333820232
There's vert little you could have done with cheats that you couldn't have already done without them, considering you played the game to that extent. UNLESS you were planning to do some sneaky PvP'ing, in which case you were rightfully banned.
>>333815087
>eh hype hype hype look at me hehehe i mead thread on 4chinz hehehehe hype
>lets get hyped anons hehehhe
I hope you die horrible deaths, all of you hyping faggots. I hope this will be your MGSV fucking casual Soulsfags
>>333820441
Str primary with dex for powerstance and basic requirements. Bone fist is cool too.
>>333820462
Not in most cases.
>>333820474
>drag 1 from a group to fight it melee 1v1
>in danger the entire fight and it can go from bad to worse at any time
>or just range it from so far away that it cant even path to you while you're 100% safe and sound
One is smart fighting, and one is basically cheating.
>>333820592
>>333820350
Monday at midnight. Doesn't matter your timezone, it's midnight Monday wherever you're at.
>>333820594
I don't mean to sound like a typical douchebag, but multi enemy aggro is a good thing.
It forces you to get good at the game, instead of cheesing through areas one enemy at a time like a coward.
It also makes alot more sense for all the enemies to rush you at once, instead of one at a time while they watch their allies get killed.
2 isnt as good as 1 but there is a shitload of stuff to do, helping pass the time (playing sotfs)
although with 3 almost here I might play demons and 1.
ONE MORE SLEEP TO GO
>>333820490
Bothered me too, but you can fix it with a mod
>>333820474
in DeS and DaS AND bloodborne, you can pick a starting weapon, and clear the whole damn game with it. Your weapon is your erstwhile ally and companion, and you bond with it right to the moment you complete it with a titanite slab. DaS2 just had a bunch of soulless clone weapons that were nothing more than the same movesets pasted on different statted weapons.
At least I got a demons great hammer for myself. thank god for that, so i didnt have to put up with the shitshow that was every other weapon.
>>333820718
Couldn't even see my character properly.
So soothing.
>>333820689
>offline mode
>>333820849
>Steam
>>333820745
Honestly, I may never have made it through Blighttown if I couldn't aggro one or two enemies at a time. Sometimes it feels necessary to play like that, or it would cause you no end of headaches.
>>333820718
I liked the game after anor londo, "unfinished" or not it was all good desu.
although bed of chaos can eat a dick. I only beat that relatively easily cause of speedrun strats I saw (the bow).
>>333820813
Finally time to move on to Demon's Souls.
>>333820748
What a nice painting.
>>333820745
Still not a problem in either game, depending on if you have a big fucking weapon. but for unlucky people that only have +5 rune scimmys, i do feel their pain.
>>333820717
I agree with you 100% on enemy aggro, but not with your choice in weaponry.
its because dark souls 1 has a ton of areas that are to big and where nothing happens. dark souls 2 is much easier to replay since theres never really any firelink shrine to quelag type areas where its basically just a 15 minute trek of doing nothing
>no bullshit auto-lock homing attacks that follow you
wrong, dark souls is filled with that stuff
DS1 is like dragon age origins. You get a hankering to play it then remember that one shitty unredeemable part and want a mod to skip it. Then you start thinking a little harder and realize you'll need a mod to skip every part of the game because none of them are fun, especially not a second time. Besides that the game was pretty fun and you remember it well.
Dark Souls 2 is a lot more enjoyable in comparison.
>>333815991
remember when people on /v/ had opinions and didn't vehemently defend one game while shitting on the others in the series?
>>333820813
http://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls/mods/194/?
>>333820952
>but not with your choice of weaponry
I don't understand. Are you saying non-magic scaling weapons are all unsuitable for PvE? Or that melee in general is unsuitable? Something else?
>>333820926
Everything besides bed of chaos is decent.
Surprise surprise, bed of chaos was basically dragon god from des.
Personally, i found four kings, seathe, and nito to be decent, as well as enjoying all their areas throughout.
I love invading in library and painted world.
>>333820930
start with temple knight class, anon. it gives you all you need to win.
>>333820982
Pre-Lord Vessel DaS kills any desire for me to replay the game. It's such a fucking chore until you can teleport from bonfire to bonfire.
>>333821052
>http://www.nexusmods.com/darksouls/mods/194/?
Please. The dragon asses aren't a threat anymore so I'm more than happy to go blind.
>>333821076
Very first playthough was with Temple Knight.
Time to go back to the very beginning.
>>333821059
Bonefist trenchcoats and fedoras are choice weapons for people that think themselves special snowflake fashion souls edgelords.
I usually swing with anything drakekeepers, fumes, and loyce armor, personally.
End it in 1 blow, or not at all, aye?
>>333820982
>DS1 is like dragon age origins
yeah and DS2 is like DA2
>>333821145
I dont understand how; everything you need is reached in sequential order, there's no real reason to backtrack especially if it's not your first time.
all I know is in every preview video ive seen for 3, it looks smooth as fuck and the hitboxes are great.
makes sense though, it is using the bloodborne engine. and if a much faster game has good hitboxes, they have to work well at a slightly slower pace, no?
besides, play 2 then play 1 or bloodborne: you can literally feel the difference with rolls/etc.
>>333821145
Unless you remember the shortcuts.
The backroads linking blighttown to valley to new londo to firelink to parish to darkroot and back to new londo again shave an incredible amount of time off. as long as I keep this in mind, i dont mind as much. I also get myself hyped to get whatever weapon im basing my build around
>>333821240
theres gonna be good hitboxes and shit hitboxes just like every game ever made
>People bitch about DaS2 bosses all being dudes in armor
>DaS3 is nothing but Gwyn reskins
This fanbase is silly sometimes
>>333819951
I'll definately try to do it with the bandit knife the first couple go arounds, but if it is too much then that is like the only boss i wouldn't feel too bad breaking the rules just once.
>>333821145
wat
You're aware that the game was rushed after anal rodeo, right? That's why the four lord dungeons feel so barren and unfinished.
>>333821339
Golem cant 1 shot ya. though his grab, like every grab has a massive spot in front of him.
I remember to simply bait the swing then roll behind him for free hits.
>>333821187
I main the full drakekeeper set with their greatshield, ugs, and their straight sword as a backup if the ugs is inadequate against the people I fight. Before that I mained the stone twinblade because nobody else used it and I wanted to be a special snowflake who styled on people while using a low tier weapon. Bone fist exclusively is a meme, but on multi-weaponswap loadouts it can be fun.
>>333820232
things that never happened
>>333821190
epic meem
>>333821438
Not so barren when Im invading people in them hyuck hyuck.
>>333821339
It seems like a result of unlocking framerate more than anything.
No game in series has such a horrible hitboxes as DS2.
>>333821475
respect then. Do try the warpick though. If you get decent with it, the damage you can do with a proper hit with the tip is borderline absurd
>cosplaying as ruin sentinal and mowing people down in pvp on the bridge with that pick for 2 years straight.
My friends wonder "why doesnt anon do any bridge pvp in sotfs?"
if only they knew how much i did in the base game.
>>333821237
There's plenty of reasons you'd wanna backtrack.
>Upgrade weapons
>Buying specific items
>Encountering an area you can't progress in
You ever been cursed down in the Great Hollow without a purging stone? Or been in Blighttown in dire need of Blooming Moss? Or got yourself trapped in Tomb of the Giants? There's a million fucking reasons you'd wanna fast travel.
Legit question... Why are these games so popular? Is it simply your brag factor goes up if you have those trophies unlocked?
Army guy here... just got back from a long tour. Have tons of games sitting in front of me unopened and I definitely have some catching up to do. Friends keep telling me how much I need to dive into this series, but from what I hear, it's just one big try, fail, try again game dominated by frustration.
I already have a lot to brag about in my life, so what makes this game worth "playing"?
Thanks anons.
>>333821145
>Pre-Lordvessel
>Bad
>>333821545
yeah, its called dark souls. it has just as many awful hitboxes as dark souls 2. its just that no fanboy has gone out of there way to spend hours finding fucked hit boxes and spamming them on /v/ for a year straight
>It seems like a result of unlocking framerate more than anything
grab attacks are notorious for being shitty in the souls games. that happens frequently on every version of dark souls. stop being a fanboy
>>333821442
yeah, he can, he throws you off the side of the edge. pretty obvious one shot
So is everyone looking forward to invasions?
Personally I would love invasions to be like this again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icFTtXi0RlA
Ahhh good times.
>>333821735
for you armyfag
>Mfw Solarie memes can finally die
Thanks From
>>333821834
I saw one video where there was like, 6 or 7 people in a pvp situation, with multiple covenants.
I think we're going to have some fun.
>>333821691
I cant say i've ever had any of those issues, no. You get to do all that shop stuff after you get done ringing each bell.
>>333821751
Best part of the game in terms of areas, sure. But also feels like a massive chore sometimes. I think From Soft would even admit to this, given both DaS2 and 3 both have fast travel from the beginning.
>>333821903
>solaire memes ever going away
neversunbros can invade now, btw
>>333821834
>All those people wearing Arty's armour
kek
>>333821903
JOLLY INVASION BRO'
>>333821903
>Ornstein's armor is laying right behind the boss
>You can summon Solaire for the O&S fight in DS
Solaire confirmed for Nameless King
>>333821875
But that sums up why the fanbase is so horrible in the first place.
>>333822071
JOLLY CO-OPERATION
JOLLY CO-INVASION
BLOOD FOR THE WAR GOD
>>333821735
its not really a thing of it being hard, it really isnt, it just requires attentiveness, something ADD riddled kids seem to have forgotten. its the weight and impact of combat that makes it satisfying. you will love every time your weapon connects with a solid smash upon the enemy.
its doubly satisfying when against another human player.
>>333821926
You can try. Most of the time you will get a cowardly host and 2 or 3 yellows. If you happen to kill any of them, the host will just run back and summon more.
>>333821827
good thing i always keep the long pathways behind me, and never the edge of the platform.
my innate fear of heights saves me yet again
>>333816696
Killed it a few days ago too. Beatric didn't do a thing.
>>333821834
>Not posting best Emarrel video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ob0hV4JWonM
>>333822225
Cutest character.RIP
>>333822124
Dont't worry about the fanbase or bragging rights. That image portrays how you'll feel afterwards playing both skyrim and dark souls. It's not about bragging rights because it's just some stupid video games after all.
>>333822458
That image is still false.
TES and Souls games are apples and oranges. The only people who would compare them are those that fell for Bandai's "UR HARDCORE" marketing stunt.
I even bought SotFS to play it before DaS3. I'm loving it so far, enemy placement is more fair.
Except retarded Heide.
Also I genuinely laughed when I saw pic related
>>333822245
100% based.
>>333822535
It's still somewhat true, but it's stupid to compare them yeah, just because they have both a 'medieval fantasy' setting. If you were to play skyrim you'd have a fun time just walking around from town to town doing some quests and gaining some loot and just fucking around. In dark souls you'll defeat a boss and you'll feel like you've accomplished something, or at least that you made a bunch of progress in completing the game.
>>333821735
>army
>giving you any right to brag
Sure thing, cuck. Go die for your country in some god-forsaken third world shithole some more
>>333822759
not him, but bullshit
taking on a dungeons of casters as a melee character is fucking terrifying
now everyone get back to shitposting
>>333822783
Hi tumblr. Did you play any video games today?
>>333822783
>>333821875
Mommy's calling... your lunch is ready, bitches! :D "Gamers" who are anti-military... literally cowards with a hero complex. Your opinions are irrelevant.
>>333822139
So you need to hunt down that satisfying moment... I think I'll pass.
WHERE IS MY KEY GMG REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>333822915
Not really, i plowed through skyrim multiple times, you just run straight towards them and hit them in the face. Unless you crank up the difficulty this shouldn't be a difficult way to go about things.
>>333819283
what the fuck is this kid talking about, i'm confused guys.
>>333823109
after release
>>333815087
I'm really aching to play DaS1 again, but I think if I start marathoning it now i'll be burnt out for DaS3. Better to capitalise on my want to play a souls game with the new one.
>>333823203
good way to pass the time anon
>>333823169
Anons talking about how after DaS2 came out, it was so bad, no one even bothered making generals for it, and promptly went back to previous games in the series.
Pre dlc prepatch DaS2 was bad, not just by souls standards, but by overall standards, and From outright lied and paid people off to shill the game.
People who only played the Scholar Of the First Sin edition wouldnt know.
>muh git gud
Surely I'm not alone in the belief that Souls (dunno about DeS as I haven't played, but I wager it's along the same lines) isn't about le "gitting gud lmao why aren't you killing every boss with bare fists on NG99+", but rather about being resourceful and witty? You guys call it "cheese", I call it tactics. Why would you, realistically, want to pull a bunch of foes to fight all at once? Why not back the fuck off a seemingly insurmountable challenge, as the graveyard teaches you? Why not play smarter, not harder? I feel like a lot of the game is build around that concept, not "git gud" in the sense "bang your head against the wall for hours on end until either breaks".
Does Pyromancy have scaling or I can just have it as a backup and only level ATN occasionally?
>>333823169
He's right, DaS2 was either ignored or laughed at until SotFS started being shilled, and this is from someone who enjoyed Dark Souls 2
>>333820275
>dark souls 3 will be final souls game
Goddamn, i don't have the patience to deal with all you asshats.
DARK SOULS 3 IS NOT THE FINAL GAME IN THE SERIES.
>"First of all, this is not the final product for the Dark Souls series," Miyazaki said in a roundtable interview at E3 attended by Eurogamer's Aoife Wilson. "However, I believe it's the turning point for the Dark Souls series. First of all, Dark Souls has a really unique worldview. It's not a good idea, continuously releasing titles for this series because of that factor. And this will probably be the turning point of From Software as a whole - it's the last project we started working on before I became president. It's basically From Software, they started working on this project when it was an older generation. So it's a turning point. It'll be a turning point, but it's not final."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-06-17-dark-souls-3-isnt-the-last-in-the-series-but-it-is-a-turning-point
>>333823432
But I played the original ds2 on release and I wasnt paid by From. It was a good game, better than DS1 for sure simply because the other half of the game was actually finished.
I don't understand why the fuck everyone here is so contrarian when it comes to ds2
>>333823169
DaS2 was shit, and hyperarmor/invasion orbs/backstabs/deadangled attacks from DaS are coming back.
Fuck das2
>>333823179
FUCK, WHY DID I TRUST GMG,actually I've never bought anything pre-release there before, so I have no idea how competent they are with these things
>>333823482
pyromancy works same as in ds2 with faith
>>333821948
The fast travel effectively ruins Dark Souls' atmosphere. The main tension of the game is the question of moving forwards or going back. You are always striving for the next bonfire, when you get to it it's a relief, but there's a certain tension. You could go back through the area you just came, maybe even relying on a few shortcuts if you found em, but you're a long way away from Firelink shrine and all the comforts it supplies where you can get repairs and sort your gear and whatnot.
Nowhere is this better felt than the Tomb of Giants. It's a dark oppressive feeling of constantly going deeper and deeper, knowing there's a fucking gauntlet of enemies behind you, feeling like you're getting further and further into shit you might not be able to get back from. THAT is what the atmosphere of DS1 is so good.
When you can just use a homer boner to warp back to the bonfire, then warp back to majula in ~10 seconds, you kill all the tension. Yeah, you're thousands of miles from home in the middle of a tomb, but no worries lol lemmie just warp back and upgrade my fuckyousword +3.
>>333815087
P/V/P In Das1 now?
Set up a fight club somewhere
>>333823440
I play smarter though. I swing a big sword and kill droves of enemies all at once with a singular, precision hit.
>>333815250
For DS2, kill the armor merchant for tseldora set and get the covetous serpent ring.
You get so many extra souls everything is piss easy. Makes the same easy.
Just beat anor londo bosses.
That chick has some big ass titties up stairs.
So how close am i too finishing this?
>>333823575
I doubt you played pvp in either.
I also doubt you found all the weapons in either.
Take this from someone who invested 400 hours into das2 and between 3-400 in DaS.
Theres huge issues in DaS2s weapon animation mechanics. the only reason netlag isnt an issue is because bs was nerfed into the ground.
Also, "second half of DaS being unfinished" is mainly a meme spouted by Sotfs shitters. which you are sounding like. Lost izalith does not constitute an entire second half of the game, or even a fifth of it. hell, not even a tenth.
That said BS meta in DaS is both a blessing and a curse. its a casual filter.
>>333823938
Half way
>>333823938
Plot spoiler,Shoot her with a bow and arrow. Do not believe her lies.
>>333823797
No. you get that ring elsewhere, and that merchant eventually sells quality armor.
tseldora set is also grindanle.
having extra souls in das2 is a bad thing.
>>333823797
why would you lie like this?
>>333824032
are you kidding? I don't d-don't know how much more of this game I can take, it's just too hard
>>333824125
Edgy Darkwraith detected.
>>333815250
Why do people still have so much trouble with the archers in Anor Londo? You roll under their arrow then run up to them and kill them. What's so hard about that?
>>333823956
I'm not that guy but I played ds2 on release and loved the shit out of it including the pvp, dual halbers, monscims and all. I wasn't on /v/ making threads about how great it was because I was busy playing the fucking game and didn't want to be spoiled. Evidently I should have been because after a few weeks of playing when I decided to check out /v/ the meta of 'ds2 sucks for bullshit reasons' had already taken hold.
>>333824161
>having extra souls in das2 is a bad thing.
Only if you care about pvp
>>333815087
I've actually just finished my run through both games
In DaS1 I went with a dex build using Priscilla's scythe while wearing simple black thief set
In DaS2 SOTFS for PvE I went with another dex build using the curved sword (Flexible Sentry's weapon) while wearing Ramie's set
For PvP and jolly coop instead I went with GRORIOUS NIPPON STEEL build, Sir Alonne's set while using either his katana or dual-weilding Uchigatana and Black Steel Katana
I'm just gonna keep doing PvP or coop in DaS2 until Amazon delivers my copy of DaS3
>someone sends me a hate mail over my strong katana game
>reply with ''pssh''
>>333823956
>Also, "second half of DaS being unfinished" is mainly a meme spouted by Sotfs shitters.
Except you're wrong, retard. Almost everyone but the most blind fanboys can at least fucking agree that the second half of DaS is unfinished, rushed, and feels hacked together. Nobody sincerely enjoyed Lost Izalith and shit.
>>333824350
Because up until that exact point in the game they would have been able to tank their way through absolutely everything with 100% block shields and overleveling stamina. The anor londo archers are the first time in the game you actually HAVE to roll.
Alright, time to move back down to Gaping Dragon.
>I buy dark souls for the pvp!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8Yj_pCthek&nohtml5=False
>>333820808
Started and finished SOTFS using only mace and morning star.
>>333820275
Trust me on this senpai, it won't be. They will just make another dark souls game and not name it 4.
Would you put a golden milk cow to death?
>>333823076
I bet you don't even know what you even fight for
''Protecting the country'' you might say when in reality you are playing the game of rich people who stay hours in their cozy office
You are just a pawn
>>333824350
Nothing, its just the archers have rng going for them. they will randomly decide what to do, and if they feel like stopping shooting when you make it up to them. I have been at point blank with one shooting his bow in my face before.
then Ive had runs where the one on the right literally suicides himself.
its completely at random
>>333824385
Lets see those das stats, faggot.
>>333824509
>>333824509
Lost izalith isnt a whole half of the game.
You are forgetting
Seathes archives, nitos tomb, as well as New londo.
Why is parrying and jumping in DaS2 so fucking wonky?
>>333820745
Im still pretty new to the game, but I do feel that certain enemies are kind of spammy in sotfs. Allready in heide's tower of flame you will encounter a heide knight and 3 sentinels in the same room. When i compare this game to playthroughs of the original das2, there doesn't seem to be so many rough encounters at the very beginning of the game.
>>333825472
to nerf actual skill in order to make pvp more accessible to casuals
>>333825662
wait till you get to iron keep..... oh boy.
I find its not more difficult, just more tedious.
>>333825472
Jumping is better in ds2 since you do not need to let go of the sprint button to do it.
>>333825127
Most of my das1 time was with steam offline (back in the gfwl days you didn't need it) so here's an ingame screenshot.
>>333824580
Now I have to figure out the fuck to do next.
>Start PS3
>Put in Demon's, make new character
>Game stuttering like crazy
>Frozen
>Restart, XMB is lagging
RIP PS3 phat, you will be missed
Jesus christ, how can you leave something like that in the re-release of the game with improved graphics?
SotFS is awesome but what the fuck
>tfw basic DaS combat is just so enjoyable to me that I can still genuinely enjoy DaS2 regardless of its flaws
>>333816575
xbone
stay away from logitech
>>333824250
>Dorkmoons
What's the matter? Can't successfully invade someone higher level?
>>333815087
what were these things i havent played ds2 scince launch but did the game even have these enemy's? were they in the DLC?
>>333826950
clench your sphincter and use that key
>>333828307
Just did, I went inside, kill a few things and decided to use my souls before I went any farther.
>>333815991
I actually don't. Most people liked it a lot, but the majority felt it was a bit of a downgrade, with some solid improvements to the mechanics being balanced out by a less cohesive world, more generic enemies, and weaker lore. As always, reactions got more extreme either way as time passed.
>>333820275
On our way to sci fi souls like. I'm ready. And fucking hype.
>>333820592
WOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSHWOOSH
That sound is the sound of an incomplete game.
