How much do you think this game would improve if she was taken out of it?
>>333794448
About 50%.
Either way, it's better than Wind Waker.
She's really not that much worse than Navi or Tatl. But she's still pretty bad.
It's just part of the problem with games being focus tested on complete retards. I wish they would just say "fuck you if you're not smart enough to understand simple things, either take twelve seconds to figure it out or kill yourself".
>>333794752
Elaborate. The main gripe I hear with wind waker is the world felt empty. But in SS everything except skyworld felt bland and empty in terms of exploration. The desert was the best part of that whole game but not enough to redeem it
>>333795442
>She's really not that much worse than Navi or Tatl.
3D Zelda are a cancer.
>>333794448
I like her design, just give her a character and take away 95% of the tutorial botting.
>>333795442
Tatl barely even bothers you though
>>333794448
It would improve it but not enough to save the mess that was skyward sword
>>333795870
i loved how most of the world was an extension of a dungeon
>>333794448
For me, significantly. I wasn't too bothered by some things that really got to people (Tadtones, The Imprisoned, etc.) but Fi was the one thing that was consistently awful, and it'd be even worse on a replay.
>>333795442
>She's really not that much worse than Navi or Tatl.
Hell no, she's much worse by a long shot.
At the very least, Navi and Tatl didn't chime in every time you dropped to blinking hearts.
And Navi & Tatl actually gave fun or interesting information on the enemies you asked them about rather than JUST LISTING HOW MANY YOU KILLED WITH A GENERIC REMARK FOR EVERY ENEMY.
Bouncing off that, Tatl (and to a lesser extent, Navi) had actual character instead of "beep boop I am a robot". That really wouldn't have even been that bad if they had fucking given her an arc. But no:
>Beep boop, you are my master
>Beep boop, go here
>Beep boop, wait and watch me dance. i will have nothing of value to say or remark on it afterwards
>Beep boop, I'm going to completely ignore this perfect moment to give me some character as this other robo faggot tries to rub up to me
>Beep boop, I KNOW IT'S THE LAST DUNGEON, BUT I NEED TO TELL YOU THE MOMENT YOU WALKED IN HERE THAT THERE WAS A DOOR RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU THAT WAS LOCKED. YOU SHOULD LOOK FOR A KEY TO OPEN LOCKED DOORS
>Oh link, thank you for teaching me to be more human even though this is the first time i'm mentioning it 5 seconds before the credits.
I hate Fi with a passion.
>>333795442
Navi never told you where Bos Doors were every time you wen't near one. Or opened your Map whenever something happened.
Very little. You'd still have the metal detecting shit, backtracking, water dragon, slow unskippable text, no over world and just a generally boring and claustrophobic game
>>333796102
I just got done playing MM yesterday, she does the same crap as Fi constantly telling you where to go and what to do when you've already figured it out.
Fi is even worse but Tatl is still pretty bad. Worse than Navi even.
>>333795442
I had enough of Fi when she made it impossible for me to sculpt sand with the bellows in a sandpit because there was no more treasure to find. God forbid I be permitted to play around in a videogame.
>>333795870
>everything except skyworld felt bland and empty in terms of exploration.
Skyworld was empty as fuck, what the hell are you talking about?
>>333796394
Makes me wonder why Nintendo didn't let you just have the option of turning the bitch off.
>>333796994
you can easily ignore tatl though. The only time she ever forces a "we should go this way" is every time after you save a giant and start the cycle again. Even then its only 2 seconds.
>>333801207
Skyward Sword is the hardest 3D Zelda, I guess they needed to compensate like how Galaxy 2 was harder than Galaxy but had super guides.
Too bad Fi doesn't offer any help at all when you really need her, like when fighting Ghirahim.
I wish they are going to make a Skyward Sword HD.
>>333795442
oy vey but the profit margins
>>333794448
Depends, does it also remove that annoying as fuck zooming in on things she points out? Does it take out Dowsing?
>>333795442
>she's not that much worse than Navi or Tatl
Why does the Navi is annoying meme exist? At least she doesn't fucking break the gameplay to throw out some non-important percentage.
So is it confirmed that Link is a playable female in the new Zelda?
Fi was annoying at times, but didn't really ruin my experience.
That dowsing shit was retarded, though. Leiterally forcing you to stop and waive your sword around like a fucking retard.
>>333802207
No.
It's not.
>>333802330
>forcing you to stop
>to stop
???
There is nothing that will make me chuck a video game in the trash faster than too many fucking words and constant interruptions. JUST LET ME PLAY YOUR FUCKING SHITTY GAME YOU FAGGOTS
>>333794752
first post best post
>>333794448
>Removing the sword from the game
Well I guess I'll just beat this moblin to death with the shield then
>>333802338
That's good. I don't like when established characters are changed like that.
>>333802425
You had to go in first person and point the sword around until it beeped loud enough.
Fucking dowsing.
>>333801207
Apparently she's more likable in Japanese. It probably just didn't translate that well I guess
>>333794448
It would hurt a lot of the game. Fi made it great when it was already good.
Your post should have been "How much do you think this game would improve if we removed the underwater forest to collect music fish"
>>333802920
Not being confirmed doesn't mean it can be true.
But
>Emily Rodgers
>rumour
>>333803131
Hurts me.
>Fighting Demise
>Have Fi chime in
>"Master your skyward strike won't work here"
>Completly forget about that ability
>Can't land a hit on him. Resort to shield bashing like a mother fucker
>Most intense fight of the whole game, having a blast
>Later find out you can catch lightning and shoot it at him to make it a cake walk
Thanks for being a lying motherfucker Fi. You made the boss fight ten times better
>>333794448
>Get to Sand Sea
>She shut her trap on spoiling almost all the fun
>That Boss fight who don't have any cut scenes despite being the very same boss fought in the third dungeon
>Get into a shitty mood once the dungeon intro music kicked in instead of not advertising the player when you get on the dungeon ship
Without Fi, the game would definitely be more fun.
>>333802920
Well each link is a different one in each game. I could see a selectable gender in the future, though not as Linkle since she's got an established personality
Reminds me of that time this dad modded Wind Waker for his daughter to change all the dialog to refer to link as a Girl so she'd have someone to admire easier
>>333794448
If they toned down Fi, or made her more optional
Made the shadow realm parts optional
Made the underwater forest optional
Had actual fucking things to do in the sky world
I think the game would have been much better. However it's still good as is.
>>333794448
-99%
That's right, negative, as in it would suffer. How could you possibly NOT want this cutie in the game?
I'm really curious how dramatically they'll change SS when they inevitably make an HD version. They'd just need to cut 2/3rds of her dialogue and I'd be a happy camper.
>>333803387
IIRC that's because Skipper explains most of the boat shit.
Mas I the only one who loved that portable Timestone dungeon? (The Pirate Cave thing) Why is it the only minidungeon in the entire game?
>>333803079
Good ol' NoA picking shitty translators again, I guess?
>>333803526
You're gonna hang on the DOTR
>>333803819
It's okay, because I've been taught that I'll just need to do my very best until the end.
>>333795870
Actual combat, actual dungeons, actual boss fights, non-shit aesthetics, much less tedious overworld. SS basically trumps WW in every category.
>>333796994
ding ding>HEY LISTEN
she also had something closer to a personality
>>333803761
Nice me.me
>>333804338
niceme.me
>>333804294
The DINGDINGDING was infinitely more annoying than Navi's voiced lines, and Navi at least gives you tips rather than "so tsun" sass. Tatl was shit.
Midna > Ezlo > Navi > Ciela > Tatl > Fi > Tetra/King
>>333803460
Why can't people admire the other gender? I understand that the case of it being a child, I just hate this include evryone mentality. When I see a character that I like I don't think to myself "they would be better if they had these traits that I like more, so they should change it."
>>333802425
You can keep going, but the game handles so clumsily in first person that you're not able to do anything beyond walk around slowly.
>>333804027
That is fucking adorable. God.
I haven't even played the game and it's cute as hell.
>>333804636
Eh, I can kinda see it. There's not much choice out there for a kid-friendly female protagonist, and this was just a private mod a dad made for his kid. It's not like he was lobbying for Sonic to be a chick to Sega or anything like that.
>>333794752
>about 50%
holy shit
>>333804859
No. That instance is completely fine but spending development time on something so insignificant is plain retarded. So do we get a male Samus, Peach, Rosalina, and Toadette in every game now?
>>333804636
It's a pretty narcissistic traits to want those on the screen to have traits that resemble you, people in general do not have an issue with empathizing with characters that don't look like them, the real deal it's their actions or characterization.
You hear this "Change this to be more inclusive" only in America, the rest of the world does not give a fuck, if they did no franchise could get popular in a worldwide scale, it is a nice touch to see someone like you but it should not be an issue.
you don't think Fi had autism?
>>333803761
I really wouldn't be surprised, considering what they did to Ghirahim.
Remember how Ghirahim kept acting like a Saturday morning cartoon villain? "Drat, I should destroy you now, but instead I'll leave you alive for no reason!" That was all NoA.
>>333805434
Fi was a cute autistic sword-spirit-robot.
I want Fi to sit on my fucking face.
>>333805770
I do love bottom heavy programming
>>333805770
>Smiles
>Emotion
>an ass
That ain't the Fi from the game in the slightest.
>>333807206
you're right, its better
>>333805770
I wanna fuck that sword.
>>333804116
>Actual combat
You mean slice in 6 directions or stab? Most enemies you can waggle trough except for ones like the electric moblins and the lizards
