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Before Dark Souls III, let's settle this debate once and
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Before Dark Souls III, let's settle this debate once and for all.

Two great characters and travel with you until the end before meeting theirs.
But only one can have a place in your heart.

Which is it /v/?
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>>333787442
They're both good guys, but at least Ostrava went out with dignity.
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>>333787558
You have to remember Solaire has two routes though. One where he gets to Gwyn and links the fire and one where he dies to a maggot.
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Well Ostrava isn't a meme
So Ostrava
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>>333787442
Ostrava, honestly i thought Yurt was pretty badass too
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>>333787558

Ostrava an hero'ed himself
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>>333787959
Because his country was soiled and he played a part in allowing it to happen.
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They are honestly both hard to compare to the other. Ostrava's motivation was to find his kingdom and try to understand what went wrong, only to find out that his own father interfaced with the divine being that caused all of this shit to happen in the first place. Solaire is pursuing his own sun, and for all the speculation we can infer from it, he only loses his mind when he believes he's "found it" in the form of that sunlight maggot that blinded him and made him think he truly found what he'd been looking for. Otherwise, he fights all the way into the Kiln and battles Gwyn, linking the fire in his own world and timeline, and extending the age of fire.

I'd say that Ostrava's end was far more tragic, but I prefer Solaire's overall presence in the world. Ostrava feels like a major character in the world. Solaire feels like an eccentric adventurer.
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Solaire helped you, Ostrava needed to be carried.
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>Ostrava
>That dude who can't even deal with a couple hollows
>Frequently requires the player to get him out of situations that a child could manage
>Kills himself

Solaire
>That dude who can fuck up O&S
>Throws lightning spears
>Frequently shows the player how things are done
>Gets the player out of shitty situations

Gee I wonder
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>>333787442
Ostrava is fucking useless. Solaire helps you kill a shitload of bosses, including Oreo and Smores and motherfucking Gwyn himself.
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>>333788528
>Lost Sinner
>Smelter Demon
They really weren't giving Lucy any easy fights, were they?
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>>333788451
>four
>shitload
I agree, just not with your terminology.
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>>333788528
Nah
She was unless pretty much every time you summoned her
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Seigmeyer

Although he is more or less useless for progression has literally no good ends unless you let him go out getting fucked by Chaos Eaters because at least then he believes he did something of worth

But I still enjoyed him the most because of his cheery outlook on life
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>>333788293
Demons made me care about the characters more than Dark did. You always went back to the Nexus, and every time you killed a boss dialog would change.

The best was when Ostrava was sitting up on the banister all by himself starring into the nexus and telling you about Old King Dorian and how much he missed his country and his father.

It just made you want to sit next to him and chill and keep him company.
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>>333788528
Bitch kept walking off bridges and taking a swim.
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>Ostrava
Wasn't he just a fuckup? I don't recall much of him other than fucking around in then in the first area the whole time.
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>>333788896
He wasn't cheery he was a coward, awkwardly laughing because he didn't know how else to act. He got his daughter trapped in Lordran for fucking nothing.
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>>333788658
>>333788528
>>333788915

does anything good ever happen to lucatiel ?
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>>333788528
Why was the Bearer of the curse so autistic? Was it really too difficult to tell her how to use an effigy?
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>>333789284
no
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>>333788923
What about all the areas you didn't get him through?
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>>333787442
solaire is an emo faggot
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Always thought Ostrava was much more like Siegmeyer of Catarina.
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>>333790123
You mean Ostrava
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>>333787442
I'll KEEP BOTH IN MY HEART AND YOUR DUMB THREAD CANT MAKE ME CHOOSE! :^)
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>>333787558
I mean, at least in one of Solaire's routes you get to bro up with him and take down the final boss.
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>>333788658
what anime?
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>>333789053
He wasn't a strong man, he knew he wasn't destined for greatness because he wasn't strong. He knew he would eventually become hallowed. He wanted to spend his life on something worthwhile.
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>>333790948
Konosuba
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>>333788896
He wasn't cheery, he just spent his time looking for adventure because he wanted some sort of purpose to distract him from becoming Hollow. But the continued times you saved his ass embarrassed him and made him feel unworthy of his own goal, finally culminating either him feeling like he redeemed himself by fighting the laser cheese, or you saving his ass again and him falling into despair because of his own cowardice and feeling of uselessness and turning Hollow, forcing his daughter to kill him again. He's a very sad character with a sad outlook on life.
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solaire, he's my wife's sun's favorite
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>>333787959

I've never been entirely clear whether or not he an hero'd or if the demonic false king allant wounded him and he escaped.
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>>333790990
More like got cursed and traveled to Lordran because that's what you have to do.
Otherwise you get shoved in a prison to the north to rot.
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>>333791045
>with a sad outlook on life.
He actually has a very positive and earnestly pleasant outlook on life. It's unfortunately the fault of your character that you continually destroy whatever sense of purpose he has with your unfortunate good intentions. Nobody wants to break Sieg down, but nobody wants him to die either.

>I will go and distract these fiends and provide you a way out! GRRRAAAAH!
He earnestly believes that his way to atone for his weakness is by using the full extent of his strength against fucked up monsters of chaos to provide you with a way out. He will not survive otherwise, but it's not as if he just ran in there to die. He was proving his might was truly worth it, and under the impression that he'd been saved too much to truly use it where it would count, he wanted to pick one golden moment to shine. And you take it away from him.
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>>333787825
this
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>>333787702
The only two Solaire routes I know is the one where he finds his sun and one where he doesn't.
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>>333792020
When he does find his "sun" (the maggot) you can summon him for gwyn, which implies he manged to get to the kiln in his world, like you did.
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>>333792103
I thought it was the opposite.
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>>333792495
Why would his sign be there is he wasn't at the fog door to place it like you do?
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>>333792103
What do you think Solaire is? He's from your world.
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>>333792712
"In Lordran, the flow of time is distorted"
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>>333792712
There are different worlds for every character, that's why in certain cases the body you find the person's gear isn't where you killed them.
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>>333788658
>Lost Sinner turning into a dps race to beat it before Lucatiel dies

I didn't even consider bringing her for smelter
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im here to bitch about the gaping dragon

i can never finish this boss fight while keeping solaire alive, fuckin sucks
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>>333788658
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCM69omIEpQ

B E S T
E
S
T
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>>333787825
this x2
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>>333793173
>seasonal waifu
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>>333793126
>summoning for gaping dragon
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>>333793309
i want sunlight medals for it

so i keep trying to keep solaire alive, but he always dies
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>>333788528
>>333788658
>>333792991
>What is a red eye ring
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>>333793291
>neon ballgargle 2deep5u
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>>333793126

Gaping dragon summon is a trap, the only way you're keeping Solaire alive on that fight is if you come back way, way OP for it.

>mfw I summoned both Lautrec and Solaire
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>>333793652
Probably not going to help very much since she'll still make no effort to dodge attacks and run straight into them

Especially those smelter explosions
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>Solaire or Oscar?
Benhart.
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>>333794020
nice fake sword u fat loser
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>>333787442

not really a fair comparison since ostrava actually had a story and was somewhat fleshed out while solaire was just "i want to find my own sun" which doesn't even make any sense. also solaire is a meme so nobody is going to pick him even if ostrava was shit.

better comparison would be siegmeyer or ostrava
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>>333794020
>him and Vengarl both join you for last boss
BROTHERS
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>>333794020

worst summon in the game
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>>333791072
underrated post, deserves a (you) senpai
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>>333794139
Siegmeyer wasn't as half as fleshed out as Ostrava, I mean shit. I think Ostrava was the most fleshed out Souls NPC, honestly.
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>>333787442
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>>333794267
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>>333794020

>dumb blow hard who thinks he's hot shit because of his cool sword
>sword isn't even legit

vengarl is much better

also why the fuck did they move vengarl's body in SOTFS? i thought it was much cooler having it be kind of the second boss fight after freja instead of as just a random mob dicking around in the forest
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>>333794714
oh yeah his body just being behind the boss for reasons
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>>333794714
DaSII was just a cluster fuck of lore in general.
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blatently sun bro

however Ostrava has better gear
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>>333792020
>not realizing that the linking the fire ending was him realizing that his sun was inside him all along
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>>333794364

he's definitely more fleshed out than solaire though. you know seigmeyer's motivation (going out to have a grand adventure), get a sense of his personality (bumbling but well meaning dummy), and you meet him in several places that actually involve you helping him/interacting with him in a way that's a little more than the typical "talk to guy three times and then he's gone". Not that having to give him an item or kill an enemy for him is really that deep, but its more than we get from basically anyone else. you also learn a little more about his background later on (like that he has a daughter out searching for him) and ultimately get to decide what kind of tragic fate he gets: do you let him die a hero, or go on living til he goes hollow and needs to be put down by his own daughter?

sounds pretty fleshed out to me, fampai, by souls standards at least
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>>333794198
Do you think that was meant to imply that they both beat the game in their own worlds, like Solaire?
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>>333787442
Solaire. Ostrava is a faggot in every step of the way.
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>>333795193
I... I am... the sun!
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>>333795193

Now I'm just imagining the pokemon Solrock with the glowing ET finger going "remember Solaire, your sun will always be right...here"
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But which one is cuter?
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>>333795678
And then they both and Lucatiel appear in the DLCs to help too. Just as summon signs though.
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>>333794364
That's becuase he's the Oscar of DeS. In fact I'm assuming that's why he was cut, they would have been too similar.
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>>333787442
I thought the one on the Right was from DSII because i didn't recognize him and i've only tag teamed a bit of Demon's souls on my m8's PS3, so i didn't know most the characters.

Not because i hadn't played DS2, but because on release there was a massive bug that cause all of the npcs you meet throughout DS2 to not show up properly, or only show up once. Meaning the multi-stage questlines in DS2 never occurred on lots of people's playthroughs because they went the "wrong" way first.

No joke. I'm still let down, and don't intend to play it again.
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>>333794714
I don't know it kinda makes sense for his body to be closer to his head.
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>>333794020
I never met this guy in DS2 and i beat the game, who the fuck is he?
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>>333796148
I really wish he got to see Oscar, that fight at the kiln would have been gud.
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>>333794020
wait the wiki says this guy was from DS2 and had a huge questline, i don't remember any of that shit.
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>>333787442
>help me
>help me
>muh dad
>sudoku
>lol i am gonna kill you
There is only one choice.
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>>333796571
>lol i am gonna kill you
wat
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>>333796641
Pretty sure that faggot tries to kill you at the end.
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>>333795915
you tell me, im not the faggot.
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>>333796798
I like to think the time is helmet is off with the maggot is how he really looks. His face is different then.
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I played DaS once. The last time I saw Solaire was at the start of Lost Izalith and all he did was mumble some shit. Where was this "he tries to kill you" shit everyone talks about?
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I'll pick Solaire
>inb4 picking a meme
Everything is a meme with you guys. Look at pic related. Oscar is a meme.
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>>333797387
Did you kill the bed of chaos and look literally behind you where the bridge that goes across the lava is? There is a tit demon on it, run past or fuck him off and hollow Solaire is on the other side.

You also have the choice of keeping him from going hollow but you probably have no idea how to do that.
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>>333797387
There's a shortcut between Quelaag's sister and Lost Izalith where he shows up
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http://strawpoll.me/7290387/r
http://strawpoll.me/7290387/r
http://strawpoll.me/7290387/r

We settled this in /dsg/ forever ago.
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>>333797541
So, Mr. Know-it-all Cool McDude, how did YOU figure out how to keep him from going hollow?
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>>333796641
Probably means the red phantom that shows up after he kills himself
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>>333797842
By using the wiki.
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>>333797929
Alright.
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>>333787825
this senpai
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>>333797835
>http://strawpoll.me/7290387/r
gross
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>>333797895
old old controlled and man phantoms tho
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>Kind of alright guy who you need to save all the time
>Really awesome friend who even confesses his love for you and will help you out of the toughest of boss fights

NO CONTEST
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>>333787959
No, he died from his wounds.
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I preferred Laurtenius over both.
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>>333798947
>old old controlled and man phantoms tho

You ok anon?
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>>333799270
>who even confesses his love for you

Poor Solaire fell in love with a mute protag.
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>>333796278
How? You have to walk past him, you absolutely have to have him on screen at some point in a small well lit area where there's literally nothing else of interest.
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>>333799894
no
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>>333787442
Reminder that Solaire canonically dies to the CU
Reminder that Tarkus died opening the way into Anor Londo
Reminder that Beatrice died after helping you against the Four Kings
Reminder that Laurentius turned hollow because of you
Reminder that DaS2's entire plot is your fault because you killed Manus
The Link the Fire ending is canon, and the Chosen Undead is a boss in DaS3, twice
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>>333800865
Reminder that Solaire doesn't have a canonical death and he helped me kill daddy-sunlight.
Reminder that Laurentius never went to the swamp because I didn't want to lose him.

Reminder that fate is what we make it, and it is fully possible to end the game having saved everybody.
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>>333800865
>Reminder that Solaire canonically dies to the CU
Why? He dies either way so why does it matter?

>The Link the Fire ending is canon
That's obvious.

>the Chosen Undead is a boss in DaS3
lol no
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>>333792985
then how is the body even in your world in the first place?

stop being a fucking retard and applying gameplay to lore
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>>333801189
>stop applying gameplay to lore
It literally says "the flow of time is distorted"
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>>333801302
So why did you kill their phantons in your world and then find their bodies ALSO in world world, if they all have their own worlds?

Its just some meaningless fluff Solaire says to justify multiplayer summons.
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>>333801703
Timelines are crossed and fucked so what happens in their world also affects yours
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>>333801938
There are still multiple worlds.
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>>333800865

Man Tarkus is so fucking cool.
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Ostrava gets stuck and needs your help in certain sections
>kek what a weak faggot, he deserved to die

Sigmeyer lays down like a useless sack of shit until you solve some simple puzzles
>onionbro is so kawaii, mai husbando
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felicia is cute!
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>>333803550
It's a shame she's a blind retard that can't stop committing suicide.
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>>333803980
They never patched the pathfinding?
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>>333804165
It's better in SotFS from what I've seen, but I played the original a week ago and Lucatiel drowned herself before I could even reach the boss fog in No Man's Wharf, so I'm guessing not.
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>>333787442
Neither. I choose Siegmeyer of Catarina.
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>>333804165
No amount of tweaking would make the summon AI not look like retarded.

Nice to see her sign for Ruin Sentinels.
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>>333788658
>lost sinner
>hard

It's one of the easiest bosses of the game, i did 3 playthroughs of sotfs and never died to him. Literally a retarded artorias
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Solaire honestly.

Ostrava lacks something. He's a very serious which of course makes sense in the context but Solaire's laughing and lightheartedness in the face of death that surrounds you and the player is just charismatic.

Also his development is more impressive.

In the end Solaire is more iconic for legit reasons.

Otrava isn't bad, Dolaire is just better and more memorable
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>>333788528
Literally who?
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>>333788896
>x or y?

>7!!!

What's so hard about answering a simple fucking question?
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>>333792103
>When he does find his "sun" (the maggot) you can
No.
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>>333805450
Yes you can
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>>333804816
>him
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>>333787442
Did Demon's Souls literally only have that one armor?
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>>333792103
>When he does find his "sun" (the maggot) you can summon him for gwyn
it is the other way around, he will go mad if you let him find the maggot, you can only summon him if you manage to take the maggot first.
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i choose biorr
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>>333805561
no, what?
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>>333795246
>you know seigmeyer's motivation (going out to have a grand adventure
I don't think that's quitw6 right.

Siegmeyer was essentially banned from his home because he became undead.
It's a course and people who have it are treated like shit.

He wanted to give his "life" purpose so he doesn't hollow but you solve every problem for him.

In the end he wants to even things out but then you help him again and he goes hollow.

His daughter finds him and kills him the 2nd time.
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>>333800865
>Reminder that Tarkus died opening the way into Anor Londo
Wrong.
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EileenShe was basically a female version of Solaire/Ostrava
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>>333805552
Nope. It's the exact opposite
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>>333805862
Its honestly kinda tragic. You either let him die by not solving his problems and giving "purpose" to his life or you solve his shit for him, make him lose his purpose and then hollow out and get slain by his daughter.
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pretending like the lore in dark souls is something absolute is so fucking pointless. everything about the story is for plot convenience and to explain why multiplayer is happening. its all an excuse to explain the multiplayer feature!
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>>333806079
You mean Alfred.
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>>333792712
i popped into the game just 6 hours ago and the first thing he tells you is that your worlds are seperate yet intwined, and that the flow of time is distorted
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>>333806217
what? when you help him he disappears because his questline ends
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>>333806231
Not really. Solaire nor Ostrava killed themselves because of what they believed in.
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>>333806304
Anon...
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>>333806489
He says, "Hey thanks.. darn wish I could have done more for myself." And then he disappears. The only way to have an ending with him is to save his daughter and find him dead in Ash Lake.
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>>333806304
There are multiple outcomes to the last part of his quest
1. He dies
2. You help and you defeat the monsters but he has less than 1/2 hp
3. You help and he has more than 1/2 hp
4. You kill the mosters before he even enters the fight
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>>333787442
Rune sword and shield look much more like sun-themed weapons than Solaire's stuff.
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>>333806886
The third is the one where you find him at ash lake later and in my opinion is the true ending
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>>333806886
those aren't outcomes, those are the player inputs
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>>333807092
Which cause outcomes. Those are criteria. Don't be stupid.
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Ostrava was a weakling but I just could never dislike him.
Poor guy really.
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>>333803162
>>333800865
EXPLAIN
WHAT DID TARKUS DO
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SUN BROS FOR LIFE
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>>333808359
he fell off the fucking banister above the painting
he didn't do shit
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>>333808359
He and Bruford were willing to accept execution in order to save the queen's life.
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>>333808359
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbHtRggFsNA
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>>333787442
ostrava

solaire has been too memed out
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>>333808503
I mean, he clearly didn't otherwise there'd be a splatter.

He probably got killed and that one ninja guy next to him was dragging him across the room considering how far he was from the entrance. It makes sense. Fast little ninja guys would be a major weakness to someone like Tarkus.
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>>333808549
I meant how he died. They said he opened the way to Anor Londo.
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>>333808641
Well anon, what happens after Iron Golem dies?
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>>333788382
>hollows
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>>333794402
literally best girl
i hope there will be a fist npc in ds3 that has summons
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>>333787442
I don't know, this guy though
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Trust me on this one bruh... the man if a bro
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>>333794714
>>333794769
>>333794960
>Just random mob dicking around in the forest
His body is right above his head. His head just didn't know it.
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>>333809492
This fucking guy
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>>333808359

He got offed by the painting guardians, proving dex>strength.
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I choose death incarnate
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>>333805775
Which makes no sense, because if you can only get thr Sunlight Maggot when you kill the red eye bug, and he only gives you one per playthrough, how did Solaire get another one?
I mean, if you take the shortcut and kill the bug before Solaire, you get the only Sunlight Maggot, but when he goes crazy, he has the maggot in his head, and the red eye bug still drops it.
Makes no sense really, they should've made Solaire drop one when you kill him.
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>>333811389
If you take the shortcut and kill the Sunlight Maggot, he never finds it and never goes crazy.
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>>333787959
>Ostrava an hero'ed himself

Common mistake. The SHINK is the standard death sound.

He fought False King, stumbled out woudned, talked to you and then died.
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Ostrava > Solaire

Easily.
Solaire is an annoying cunt.

Yuria still the best NPC.
Followed closely by 'Quelaan'
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>>333792712
>>333806291
Got 4 hours and I second this. He literally explains time is distorted there and that you're not from the same world, though you may meet again.
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>>333787702
Well the maggot is one of the sisters of izalith so it's not that embarrassing
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>>333801089
>lol no
He is, the final boss is him along with any other retard who linked the fire after Gwyn AND Gwyn.
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>>333813795
>the maggot is one of the sisters of izalith
Man you have been lurking lore(fanfiction) threads to much.
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I liked the characters in Demons Souls more because due the Loading Screens talking about the Stories of them until you actual manage to meet them.

They had more personality than anyone in Dark Souls which is why Solaire is basically the only character that got turned into Meme.
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>>333814106
Are you retarded ? Why do the bugs kill solaire then? And why is the bed of chaos actually a fucking bug? Why did quellag and the fair lady become bug people?
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>>333788337
This.

Ostrava was the Siegmier of DeS. I don't even think DeS had a Soliare counterpart. Bjor of the Two Fangs helped you with a single boss, everyone else just needed saving.
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>>333814361
Chaos Magic
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>>333814385
Exactly
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>>333814361
Why do you think there is a specific reason for the bugs to kill Solarie? The description states that jumping on people heads is the shit they do.
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Solaire is a faggot and so are his memespouting retarded fans.

Kill that shit on sight.
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I like Solaire or rather the optimistic idealism he represents in what might be a really shitty setting to be an idealist.
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>>333793126
>not skipping depths through undead church > darkroot basin > valley of drakes
Bet you can't even kill the black knight at the top of that tower next to the bridge dragon bonfire
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>>333813991

Jesus, what does it take to kill Gwyn? Why won't he die?
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>>333814538
What description? Sunlight maggot doesn't mention it
"A loathsome parasite that inhabits Lost
Izalith. It is completely immobile, yet still
lives.

When worn on the head, it emanates
blinding light, which is why it is known
as a Sunlight Maggot."

Unless you're getting all that from the word parasite.
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>>333815007
He had a dream and not even death will take his will to do it.
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Have not played. Don't super spoil me.

Just tell me if the basic questions of the series are answered and if there's closure.

If it ends with the protagonist Linking the Fire and the cycle continuing I'd throw my controller at the screen.
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>>333805561

Plate set
Mirdan set
Chainmail set
Fluted armor
Yurts armor
Biorr's armor
Ancient Kings set
Garl Vinlands set
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>>333815007
He is the top dog m8, he has the biggest, brightest and strongest lord soul, fought an army of dragons just to get a life of freedom for him and his people.

But really, the last boss is like Ermac of MK, an amalgamation of thousands of guys plus Gwyn, doing to much damage to the last boss must trigger the strongest soul within him to take control.
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>>333814843
>skipping Lower undead burg, Depths and upper blighttown
>skipping 3 best areas in the game
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>>333815850

Gwyn hasnt' been a big dawg for a while. He was at a fraction of his power when the Chosen Undead met him. Then CU beat him to death. Somehow he manages to linger on.

I think it really takes away from the ending of Dark Souls, bth if he just sort of lingers on. He probably doesn't have any kind of ego anymore. Just a mindless creature.
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>>333815945

>Blighttown
>Good in any way

MEMES
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>>333815993
Well since everyone is resurrecting at their prime is not unlikely to think the full soul of Gwyn is inside the last boss, not to mention the CU is also in there and he gathered all the shards of Gwyn soul.

Those lighting spears attacks did not came from Solarie that I am sure off.
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>>333815945
>Blighttown
>Good at all
You can even fall through that small gap on the elevator at lower blighttown by just walking, or rolling, or anything ffs and I have plenty of fucking times. That area is cheap as fuck no matter how you see it.
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>that guy who linked the fire

Destined to be a cuck
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>>333816425
>That guy who left
Accomplished nothing in his life or was a beta orbiter.
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>>333816425
Indeed, Dark Lord ending is where it at, my fellow connoisseur. *tips Pharis' hat*
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Sir Daniel Fortesque.

Solaire and Ostrava don't even come close.
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>>333787442

Here's a better question, Biorr or Solaire?
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>>333815993
Why does Gywn or whatever he is now still fight anyways? Despite the linking the world is dead already, there's only burned out hollows, monsters and corpses.

Pretty much every "sane" person you meet during the game dies off and there's just nothing left.
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>>333816484
>accomplished nothing

Not delaying the inevitable, Being a prophet ending the age of light, putting the lord of absolutely nothing (ash) out of his misery, not doing what all of his servants tell you to do, not dying, not walking through hell having to get assblasted over and over again back and forth in different worlds and times just to end it with having accomplished nothing but creating more hell for a short span of time.

Age of dark best age. Age of light was shit for everyone involved.
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>>333816795

I dont' think Gwyn has any ego left. Just vague emotions and instincts.
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>>333816795
I guess it's just Gwyn will for survive still kicking, one must wonder how shitty life was when there was nothing but dragons.
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>>333816818
>Not delaying the inevitable
Nigga, age of dark is confirmed the bad end, linking the fire is the short term solution.

The abyss is no different from the flame of chaos, the answer lies beyond life and death.
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>>333816995

the Lords lived underground in caves, building up their army, plotting to kill the fucking dragons.

it's fascinating how much story is released in the 5 minute intro.
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>>333796181
I believe somewhere it's stated the duke paid Vengarl to fuck shit up for him and more than likely experimented on him which resulted in his head and body living on.
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>>333795193
>"Wow we did it Undead we finally became the sun."
fucking really
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>>333817039
>age of dark is confirmed the bad end, linking the fire is the short term solution

The entire age is about a grayscaled world. There's no inherently good or bad. Everything contains both sides. Would you consider the age of light perfectly good? That's why the age of gray was the time of "peace". It was a balance. That balance was tipped over and the world fucked up. The age of dark is the way of the pendulum to swing back.

Gray is boring and meaningless, and it's void of motion and eventfulness, both in a good and a bad way. The age of light isn't good, and neither is the age of dark.
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>>333789428
I think only chosen can use those.
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Ostrava easily.
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All I want is sweet sweet gwyndolin
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>>333817771

Got bad news for you. Bad, bad news.
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>>333817860
One man's bad news is another man's good news.
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>>333817771
>>333818080
Gwyndolin possesses the trap soul. I want a secret ending where you take her to the kiln, make her link the fire, and bring about the Age of Traps.
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