>pay for product
>blizzard anally rapes said product and forces you to pay $15 a month if you want to continue to play the mangled bleeding shit stained mess they left over
>decides to shit all over anyone that rebuilds their abandonware from the ground up so no one can play a game that literally doesn't even fucking exist anymore
LOL
As a City of Heroes and Star Wars Galaxies player, please shut the fuck up. You're MMO isn't a special snowflake just because a monkey coded it and anybody can make a private server for it.
They are legally obligated to protect their trademarks, if they don't they are liable to lose them.
>>333755950
>you are mmo
>>333756090
>you're stealing our game that literally doesn't exist anymore
how can you steal something that doesn't exist?
explain that /v/etards
>>333756064
Sorry. YOUR MMO is shit and destroyed the genre.
>>333755812
>thinks people shouldn't stop someone for distributing their IP
>>333757067
>how can you steal something that doesn't exist
>listen you're retarded just shut the fuck up ok?
LMAO
/v/etards never fail to impress ahaha
Getting a nostalrius tattoo tomorrow.
I'm still insanely depressed. Drinking myself into a rut about losing my 4 60s
Nostalrius lives on in my heart.
Fuck man....
>>333757706
>copyright something that doesn't exist in any way shape or form
lol? how can you copyright a game that isn't real?
>>333757564
I feel ya my man
>>333757067
Actually blizzard publically admitted to losing the original files for classic wow. They no longer posses the ability to create a classic server, even if they wanted to. Nostalrius was written from scratch and didn't accept any donations directly for the server. Money that was donated was sent directly to the server hosts which was not affiliated with Nostalrius.
There is some legal leeway here. Especially if blizzard can't produce the original files when they go to sue for copyright.
>>333755812
>butthurt nostalgia faggots STILL at it
can you dipshits give it a rest already
>Blizzard acts on something that's completely within their rights
>People get thoroughly anal-ravaged
Why do they feel they're entitled to their private server?
>>333758008
>nostalrius is a copy of world of warcraft
no it isn't? where's your proof? where can I play vanilla world of warcraft elsewhere? where are they copying it from?
are you high?
>>333758163
stop answering to this guy. he a fucking idiot that needed to be aborted.
>>333758048
>it's legal therefore it's ethical
this site is 18+ man, Im so sorry you have to leave
>>333758163
>I'm going to keep pretending I don't understand very simple concepts
>Failure to Police
>Trademark rights may also be lost when a trademark owner fails effectively to police its mark against eroded distinctiveness, which may occur as a result of the presence of confusingly similar third-party marks in the market. For example, if many third parties subsequently begin using the same or a similar mark in commerce in connection with goods and/or services similar to the trademark owner’s after the owner has already begun to use its trademark, and the owner does little or nothing to police its mark, the mark is likely to lose some or all of its value as a source identifier in the marketplace. As a result, the trademark will become weaker, and in some cases it may lose its distinctiveness entirely.
>To help avoid such adverse consequences, the trademark owner should police its mark by enforcing its trademark rights through various legal means, such as (a) sending demand letters, (b) initiating opposition or cancellation proceedings with administrative entities, (c) proceeding with litigation in the courts and/or (d) entering into licensing and/or other agreements with third parties, as may be appropriate under the circumstances. While some courts have determined that a trademark owner need not necessarily prosecute every infringing third-party use of its mark, such third-party uses can still affect the distinctiveness of the mark in the mind of the public. The optimal policing and enforcement efforts for particular marks may vary with the particular circumstances involved, such as the nature and importance of the mark, the nature of the trademark owner and the size of its legal budget, and the number and nature of the potential third-party trademark infringements.
>>333758297
>I'm going to cry and throw a hissyfit on a weeaboo image board because the big mean company took away my free game
![flat,1000x1000,075,f.u4[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FkHWDXF.jpg "flat,1000x1000,075,f.u4[1].jpg")
>>333755812
>tfw you're gonna have to wait 70 years after Allen Adham, Frank Pearce and Michael Morhaime die in order to play vanilla wow legally again
>>333758658
not an argument
>>333757962
>Actually blizzard publically admitted to losing the original files for classic wow. They no longer posses the ability to create a classic server, even if they wanted to.
People actually still believe this?
lmfao.
Stop shilling for Blizzard. A multi-billion dollar company doesn't "lose" the game code for one of the biggest video games in history. So they're either liars, or they're completely and totally incompetent, and thus you should never try defending them.
>>333757962
>Actually blizzard publically admitted to losing the original files for classic wow.
LOL
No one believes this shit for a second dude
>>333757962
>Billion dollar company is incapable of rebuilding vanilla
>basement dwelling baguetteniggers manage to do it for free
No.
>>333759302
and yet you won't stop begging them for legacy servers
pathetic
>>333759302
>Blizzard has an archive department for 22 year old drawings of orcs and trolls
>"They lost the files"
If only one of the seven million 1.x vanilla discs shipped to stores worldwide could be found somewhere...
>>333759676
>a retail copy of the game is exactly the same as the developer version
>>333759676
The vanilla disc only includes all of the games assets. The scripting for each encounter, quest, any sort of interaction was and is all server side.
You're all arguing semantics at this point. Its over. You lost. Move on and either try to convince them to create their own classic servers without any bastardization, or find a new MMO.
>>333760823
What did we lose? Everybody will just migrate to a new server. Only thing Blizzard lost here is public respect, assuming they had any left.
>>333760823
>you lost
you mean blizzard forced nost to release it's server to the public so literally anyone can make the highest quality vanilla server whenever they want and blizzard can't shut down all of them?
LMAO
blizzard
B
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OOOOOO
>>333761241
Didn't work with RO. The more choices available in terms of pservers the smaller the individual populations are. They had something good going because of their quality. Now no server will take the lead and it will all be ghost towns spread across a wider range.
>>333761467
Before Nost has even gone down thousands of players have migrated to Kronos.
looool ez pz
>>333761241
>>333761153
YOU LOST. KABOOM! THE FALSE KILL HAS FALLEN!
>>333761613
Then where will they go when the hammer is brought low? Theres a reason why not as many were playing there.
>Server that hides its population
>>333758736
No but an argument is that they have to protect their copyright, otherwise they lose it
jesus fuck it's like you've never graduated elementary school
>>333761763
>he thinks you can copyright something that doesn't exist
lmao back to pre-school babby you have some stuff to learn
>>333755992
>implying that they don't only have copyright for 2 more years.
invalid disney laws need not apply.
>>333762003
Is that why Nostralius wont be copyrighting their servers in a few days?
>jagex doesn't give a shit about private servers
>they eventually decide to bring back 2007 runescape as an experiment
>boosts their playerbase and membership subscriptions a shitton
>half the overall runescape playerbase is playing OSRS now
>meanwhile Blizzard shuts down the biggest private server and tells fans "you think you want it but you really don't"
I don't even care about RS anymore but this is hilarious.
>>333762204
>THEY ARE COPYING OUR DRAWING MOMMY THEY AREN'T ALLOWED TO COPY IT THEY MADE A DRAWING THAT LOOKS LIKE MIIIIIINE
"Ok honey where is your drawing so I can see that they copied yours?"
>umm................. I lost it.....
>I SWEAR THEY ARE COPYING ME THOUGH I SWEAR IT MOOOOOOMMYYY RIP UP HIS DRAWING
>>333755812
>>333755812
>>333755812
stay mad asslord, no one gives a fuck about your shitty vanilla nostalgia rose tinted fucking server. go curl up and gry about it rather than piss about it on the internet
>>333762431
excuse me, timmy says you took his work and called it your own, is this true?
>n..no! He doesn't have his painting anymore! i can call it mine since he doesn't use it!
little mister, did you make that yourself or did you take timmy's drawing and just sign your name at the bottom
>it's not FAIR! HE'S NOT USING IT ANYMORE! IT SHOULD BE MINE NOW!
This >>333758430
A lot of people are flipping their shit as if Blizzard dropped the hammer out of spite. but the reality is that if they didn't do shit like this their copyright would have became weaker.
This is something literally all big companies must do or else knock offs can start doing whatever the fuck they want with your license and get away with it.
If I built a supermarket called Wally-Market and claimed it was "based on an earlier version of Wal-Mart." you better believe they'll be suing the shit out of me even if I don't prove a genuine threat to their brand.
It's a shame Nostalrius had to go, but anyone who legitimately thought it was going to have this much notoriety and still stick around is a fucking retard.
>>333762856
>painting a new picture because some autist decided he wanted to hide his away from the world
>NO STOP PAINTING THAT PICTURE YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PAINT THAT PICTURE I MADE THE SAME ONE
"Can you prove it"
>ummm... no i lost it lmao
loooooooooooooool lolololool
>>333763098
>painting a new picture
The elder scrolls online, Wildstar, the old republic, blade and soul, black desert online
>just grabbing the old painting and coloring over it with crayons
Nostralius
there's a difference and you probably dont get it, its actually really sad to read your posts
>>333763098
How the fuck can you possibly think you don't look retarded right now?
You've clearly lost this exchange hard as fuck because you're metaphor was stupid.
Just keep repeating yourself senpai and saying epic troll phrases, people will start thinking you were only pretending to be a dipshit the whole time any minute now.
>>333763470
>you're wrong because I say so
doesn't work like that son, sorry
>>333763579
No, you're wrong because you're argument was stupid and actively proved itself wrong with the implossably retarded premise, in addition to the other guy blowing you the fuck out like 3 times in a row.
On the flipside you think "being right" is the same thing as "being an obtuse faggot that won't shut the fuck up".
They are different things.
Don't worry Anon, we're all Anonymous here. You can just fucking walk away and the embarrassment won't stick, you don't have to remain in full damage control mode anymore.
>>333763878
Savage
>just grabbing the old painting and coloring over it with crayons
That would imply anyone could experience the painting at all to begin with. The issue is the fact the painting is gone, destroyed, lost at sea. Nostalrius is re-painting that picture so the world can experience it. And even for completely free at that.
Blizzard is pitching a fit that someone re-painted a picture they didn't want people to see because they made new ones but no body liked them as much as the original so they decided no one can see their original.
I never claimed they are painting a new picture entirely. Now you're just building strawmen in a desperate attempt to salvage your god awful argument.
>>333763878
You can keep claiming I'm wrong all you want. I can claim the moon is green but that doesn't mean it's true.
>>333763071
except private servers for other mmos have existed for years
>>333763964
in reply to >>333763414
>>333755812
People aren't playing it because it's Vanilla, they're playing it because it's free which obviously makes Blizzard lose a lot of money.
>people use an IP they don't own
>actual IP owners shut it down
Fucking shocker
>>333764996
Pretty sure the people paid $40 to use said IP. So they do own it.
When are they releasing their code?
>>333765094
What the fuck are you talking about
>>333765662
he's probably dumb enough to think he actually owns his games on steam and isn't just renting licenses
just don't respond to him
>>333765662
People bought the game, they own it.
>>333765094
>buying a game means you own the IP
Heres your (you)
>>333765775
No they fucking don't, are you retarded?
>mfw anon's are upset
Vanillacucks on suicide watch
>>333758048
>Blizzard acts on something that's completely within their rights
This is a pretty grey area, since cataclysm, mop and draenor completely changed the game to the point where nothing from vanilla exist anymore, which could categorize vanilla as abandonware.
>>333755950
>City of Heroes
THANKS FOR REMINDING ME ANON!
NO REALLY, THANK YOU!
>>333767039
>Nothing from Vanilla exists anymore
>Silithus
>Molten Core
>AQ
>Blackwing Lair
>Every dungeon they didn't bother changing
Your opinion isn't truth
>>333757962
I still don't buy that bullshit argument. Its already been proven that the game can be rebuilt and by a team of amateur programmers in their spare time not being paid no less.
The scripting needs re-done but the content is already there. The mechanics for fights has already been established they don't have to make new content they just need to get it up and working again.
I would be willing to bet if blizzard really wanted Nost to hand over their code and clean it up and finish it the Nost team would be more than happy to oblige. Blizz has too many higher ups in the dev team who are proud of the fucking mess they created and don't want their work overshadowed by vanilla because it fucking will.
I wonder if it's a different round of shills today or the same ones?
>nostalgiafags still THIS assmad
>still pretending that people played private servers because vanilla and not just because it was free
>>333767909
>making it sound easier than it is
this is really the epitome of the shitposting that's been going on lately. the fact of the matter is that most of the people playing on a "blizzlike" vanilla server weren't around for the real thing so they don't realize how inaccurate it is
you were on 1.12 and half of the raids weren't even accessible
>>333768000
But there's other private servers that are more recent versions of the game that weren't nearly as populated as nost.
>>333767943
>the nostalgic pandering didn't even last a full expansion
>downward trend continues
>numbers are now even lower than pre-WoD
god damn blizzard is pathetic
>>333763964
>still no rebuttal
LMAO
blizzdrones BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
>blizzdrones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR20QH5UHoM&index=1
>>333768614
They were getting butt blasted yesterday too. I don't think I've ever seen a paid shill force like the one we've seen over the past few days.
>>333768079
I'm not making it sound easier than it is. I'm pointing out that if a bunch of amateurs can do it there's no reason blizzard can't.
I'm aware of the differences there were I started WoW on patch 1.6.
Blizzdrones are amusing. So stupid.
>>333768079
>Shit posting
What is "shitposting"?
Shitposting is "knowingly contributing low quality, off-topic, or ill intentioned posts."
>>333769384
So these threads that have been popping up non-stop since Thursday then
go back to /wpsg/
>>333769650
They'll go away after the server goes down and this all dies down and everyone realizes blizzard will never make legacy servers.
>>333755812
>forces you to pay $15 a month
Yeah, I remember when the armed Blizzard goons would show up in my neighborhood to demand their money. It was always on a Thursday, so we just started calling it "Extortion Thursday."
Fucking idiot.
>>333770070
>what is hyperbole
wow people told me /v/ was retarded but... damn........
>>333755950
>CoH
Man those were the days...
>>333770189
retard
>>333770070
not retard
>>333770189
>what is hyperbole
I'll let you look that up for yourself. I will tell you, though, that "hyperbole" is different from "making factually incorrect statements."
I had no idea there were this many blizzcucks on this site.
>>333770801
literally nobody talked about nor gave a shit about WoW in general until some shitty private realm nobody gives a fuck about got shut down
Kronos literally was better in every single way except population anyway. Guess that's solved now, too. I will never understand why anyone would prfer Nost over Kronos.
That being said I have a freshly leveld 60 UD warrior on Kronos with a blue mount and like 70 gold left, all talents too iirc. Haven't touched him in months because as soon as I hit level 60 I recognized I've wasted enough time to World of Warcraft in my life and playing on another Private Server gets me nowhere. Leveling to 60 was extremely fun, felt like back in the days with the x1 rates.
Anyway, anyone interested?
>>333770801
What do you mean you don't want to slobber on their jew dicks? What do you mean they're ``forcing'' us to pay 15$ a month to play their shit game?
>>333768807
sauce on the guy laughing?
holy shit my sides
>>333770903
I'm down
[email protected]
>>333755950
SHUT
THE FUCK
UP
Why don't you people quit bitching about your dead games in every wow thread and go make some servers?
>>333770903
Nost got a point where the population made the game nearly unplayable. I only raid logged because it was completely unenjoyable to play with 6k minimum players and all the gook gold farmers, horrible draw distance etc.
I find it pretty ironic when people were spamming world on Nost that Kronos is dead and a fun server after they did the 7x rates event. I'm honestly not wasting anymore time on private servers. Kronos will get shut down next, the pop will move again and it will just be a never ending cycle.
>>333762431
people like you are honestley so dumb. it really goes to show just how poor the education system is if you really believe blizzard was wrong. nost literally took the same game, re released it and offered it for free. all while current wow is still up and running and is offered as a service. surely you can see why they shut it down after it got more players?
and a proper anology would be
>"mommy that smelly mouthbreather took one of my old drawings and wrote his name over it"
>>333771450
Exactly. Not just because of Kronos being next (it will eventually happen, though) but private Servers just...they just don't do it anymore. WoW doesn't do it anymore. It was fun because everyone was shit. Nowadays, everyone knows the game inside out. The PvP is literally only rock paper scissor anymore because everyone knows how to do it and it really takes no skill, just knowledge that everyone has.
WoW was good. Vanilla was excpetional for a long time. But once it's so overplayed, once you go through gearing up and all that stuff for the 5fth time on the 5fth Server, you realize that it's a waste of time. It will never quite be as when you started again.
Just go and find something new, hold the memories you have with it dear, watch some videos from back in the days every once in a while. Move on, guys.
>>333771738
Private servers never "did it" to begin with
None of them have ever been accurate to the real experience and you're lying to yourself if you think they were
>>333771721
I've already btfoed you here >>333763964
read the thread
>>333762423
runescape has had a population of around 100k players (give or take a few thousand dpending on time of year) since 2009. i still remember playing in actual 2007 when runescape was at its peak and remember the highesty i ever saw it was 200k.
so you cant compare rs to wow. also rs3 changed the core of the game which wow has never done
>>333771290
Because we don't have the privilege of such an easy to emulate game.
I hope these threads keep getting made, if only because then it'll get to the point where WoW threads in general will get deleted or auto-pruned and the board will be a whole lot better off
>>333772443
>i can't wait for when /v/ after all these years will finally get quality control then my containment board will be so good!
holy shit /v/etards really are delusional
>>333772650
>stop talking about the things I don't want to talk about!!!111
>>>/r/eddit
>>333763964
vanilla isnt lost at sea. if you really believe blizzard doesnt have at least one copy of pre BC then youre retarded. They only said "its gone" so the tards who cry about muh vanilla shut up.
and these mental gymnastics are insane. its not re painting a picture when a majority of its assets still exist in the original painting.
and once again you're still comparing warcraft to fucking drawing. apples and oranges my friend. a vaguely similar analogy doesn't prove your point. The warcraft IP is still run and offered by blizzard entertainment for $$$. Nost was in the wrong. they did not own vanilla, warcraft or anything about the servers. slapping a new bit of code on something that has a fucking copyright doesnt make it yours or something new.
and before you call me a blizz shill, i quit wow in 3.1. Im simply telling you that your all fucking retarded and wrong. Is what blizzard is doing ethical ? probably not, but again blizzard isn't your cool uncle who buys beer for you. theyre a business.
and if you really want to know why theyll never make vanilla servers look at how many people ACTUALLY played nost. maybe 15k active on a daily basis. saying they had 700k accounts made is like runescape saying they have hundreds of millions of accounts made. it means shit all. and 15k - 8k players is nothing compared to current wow. and dont forget that wod has literally had 1 patch do sloy of nody id bored players who still play retail.
tldr : your retarded
>>333768612
It's not entirely their fault. How in the fuck are you going to keep a game like this going for 10 years without people getting bored and moving on? It should have closed down after Wrath.
>my pal whose guild unironically farmed world resources on a schedule wanted me to play on nostalrius
>mfw the news
>>333771975
>>333764535
>>333768614
grade a autism my friend.
>>333774116
>do sloy of nody id
thats supposed to be so a majority btw
>you will never be blinded by nostalgia or be this salty about a shit private server
Feels great
>being this mad that you couldnt farm your 40k wow token before your sub ended
wew lad
>>333774116
>if you really believe blizzard doesnt have at least one copy of pre BC then youre retarded
It is the same thing as it being lost at sea. No one has access to it and Blizzard has said no one ever will have access to it. The point is that no one will ever get to see or experience it again, not that it's literally wiped off the face of the earth.
> its not re painting a picture when a majority of its assets still exist in the original painting.
The world is blank. The assets exist but everything must be scripted from scratch. Why do you think each server is so drastically different from the next one? Why do you think people have such a hard time sticking to a single server? There are a thousand bugs and issues and things that people aren't clear about whether it's blizzlike or not. But at this point you're really just nitpicking the analogy to a silly level.
>and once again you're still comparing warcraft to fucking drawing. apples and oranges my friend. a vaguely similar analogy doesn't prove your point.
That is the point of an analogy. It makes sense and you've yet to prove otherwise.
cont.
>>333774116
>>333775231
>Nost was in the wrong. they did not own vanilla, warcraft or anything about the servers. slapping a new bit of code on something that has a fucking copyright doesnt make it yours or something new.
Everyone including me knows what blizzard is capable of and has the right to do within the law. They are capable of and have exercised their ability to destroy their entire franchise and tank their sub numbers. This is not what we are discussing. We are discussing how private servers should be seen by blizzard and what the implications of it's success are. The ethics behind them, not the legalities. I'm well aware they can take down whatever server they want at will.
To me bringing this up is on the same level as the people saying "omg stop crying about WoD it's their game they can do what they want with it! dont like it unsub!!" It's a moot point.
>Is what blizzard is doing ethical ? probably not
So we agree.
>saying they had 700k accounts made is like runescape saying they have hundreds of millions of accounts made
You're right. It's also the same thing as blizzard claiming to have what we can only assume is around 3 million subscribers now. The reality is that more than half of those are from a region that has a completely different subscription model from the west. If you only counted western sub numbers WoW would probably have as many as that new final fantasy MMO has.
>15k - 8k players is nothing compared to current wow
This is the average number for the biggest WoW realms that exist currently. If you compare it server to server Nost is very successful.
>tldr : your retarded
Nah
>>333775306
>>333775231
holy shit kill yourself
>>333775482
Nice argument
>>333759676
>If only one of the seven million 1.x vanilla discs shipped to stores worldwide could be found somewhere...
Not quite.
The absolute biggest issue for vanilla emulation isn't disk content, it's content that was only stored server side.
There have been fan projects going since Cataclysm changed the world to try and solve the mysteries of things that were stored server side. The absolute biggest one is enemy stats.
You see every mob in WoW has stats like players, Str, Agi, Stam, Int, Sp. These stats heavily influence the flow and difficulty of fighting mobs. These stats were only stored server side and are the cause of most vanilla servers having mobs that are either much easier or much harder to kill than they were on live. The private server devs either ignore the stats and make them easy, or just inflate attack power and health to compensate and make them too hard.
The only way to try and solve this was experimentation on live servers to try and deduce the stats of enemies. Back during WotLK, when Paladins had their Vindication talent changed to reduce enemy Stamina, people started going back to vanilla content on live (Yet unchanged as Cataclysm wasn't here yet) and proccing Vindication on enemies to see how their health was affected to determine the stat. It was a lot of work because you had to proc it to see how much their health reduced, then do the math on how much that reduction equaled in Stamina but also make sure you were accounting for Base Health (Which could only be truly determined for tamable enemies since they had datamined base health stats) leaving all non-tamable enemies (a good 90% of all enemies in WoW) without reliable base health numbers.
Even then only a fraction of a fraction of enemies Stamina was determined. Str, Agi, Int and Sp were essentially impossible to accurately determine from the player end and even now are a shit chute of random guessing by the community.
Frankly I don't believe Blizzard, so I'm not a drone.
>>333755812
So stop playing it you stupid fuckstain.
Jesus Christ.
>>333768612
>>numbers are now even lower than pre-WoD
Actually his chart is out of date and doesn't include the final report. Pic related.
Numbers aren't just "pre-WoD" they are pre-WoD, Pre-MoP, Pre-Cata, Pre-WotLK, Pre-TBC, PRE-FUCKING PATCH 1.9.0
>>333771185
It's in the comments.
they should hire the people that host emu paradise to host nostalrius since that seems to exist outside the law
>>333770903
>>333775231
>It is the same thing as it being lost at sea. No one has access to it and Blizzard has said no one ever will have access to it. The point is that no one will ever get to see or experience it again, not that it's literally wiped off the face of the earth.
like i said they still have a sopy of pre bc. wether or not we'll have access to it is up for debate, but your original point was that it was gone and in reality it isnt. if the demand is high enough (which it isnt) theyll release it like disney re relreases movies from their vault.
>The world is blank. The assets exist but everything must be scripted from scratch. Why do you think each server is so drastically different from the next one? Why do you think people have such a hard time sticking to a single server? There are a thousand bugs and issues and things that people aren't clear about whether it's blizzlike or not. But at this point you're really just nitpicking the analogy to a silly level
im nitpicking the anology because every argument, yours included, uses one to try and justify nost. and again changing code still doesnt make it theirs when every asset was ripped from the og copyrighted material. if nost was so great at coding they shoulda created their own assets and made their own game. also the code was "blizzlike" so even that is more black then white in the legal grounds.
>That is the point of an analogy. It makes sense and you've yet to prove otherwise.
i actually have proved my point, you're just plugging your ears
>>333776257
The Nost devs were retarded to begin with. They seriously hosted a DMCA infringing server in FRANCE. Just as stupid as hosting it in the UK or Canada or any other close ally to the US who will gladly assist in DMCA takedowns.
They could have hosted that server in Ukraine or Russia, not very far away latency wise, 2 countries which are the home to practice immunity from DMCA takedowns and used for many things illegal in the US.
>>333771848
This.
Private servers have never been able to emulate WoW properly.
>>333776503
I've already agreed with you that Blizzard had every legal right to shut down the server, and any server they want. I've already explained that this is a discussion about the ethics behind it, hence the analogy about letting the world experience something that blizzard refuses people to have access to.
You've already said yourself that you agree the ethically the whole thing is still up in the air. I'm not sure what you're still going on about. To me it seems like we've come to agreement and you're still flinging shit and just repeating yourself despite the fact that I've already addressed every point you are making.
>>333775306
>Everyone including me knows what blizzard is capable of and has the right to do within the law. They are capable of and have exercised their ability to destroy their entire franchise and tank their sub numbers. This is not what we are discussing. We are discussing how private servers should be seen by blizzard and what the implications of it's success are. The ethics behind them, not the legalities. I'm well aware they can take down whatever server they want at will.
alot of the people arguing for this dont know that blizzard was legaly right. and alot of people would disagree with you in that current wow is shit. current wow like you said probablly has around 3 million people which is insane for a mmo in 2016. if you havent realised mmo's are going the way of the do-do because the current market isn't interested in them anymore. blizz probably views private servers as a breach of intellectual property. and for the most part they dont shut them down unless they get too popular. or they do something super illiegal... nost was shut down after the gold selling incident.... and the herds of tards publicly announcing the servers existence.
>This is the average number for the biggest WoW realms that exist currently. If you compare it server to server Nost is very successful.
dont forget wow has like a hundred servers and the game is 12 yeras old and hasnt had content in a year
>You're right. It's also the same thing as blizzard claiming to have what we can only assume is around 3 million subscribers now. The reality is that more than half of those are from a region that has a completely different subscription model from the west. If you only counted western sub numbers WoW would probably have as many as that new final fantasy MMO has.
doesnt matter where they live, theyre still people who play the game. of course if you take away subs from a different country it would lower
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>>333777408
and finally, lets look at wow numbers once legion comes out and has been out for a few months. then we can see how many people rally hate neo wow and love private servers.
you think you want these, but you really dont. your just bored
>>333774187
Was it NOPE or dreamstate? Because I wouldn't put it past either of them to do that shit.
Mfw im drubj and gonna an hero cause I had 5 well geard 60s on nostalrius.
>>333755812
Fucking vanilla fags.
Take of your rose tinted glasses already
>>333779764
>fuck you stop having fun in a game I can't enjoy
dude whats the problem? just go play retail get to 60 and turn off your xp. there instant vanilla experience without the server shutdown issue :^)
>Actually surprised Blizzard took down yet another WoW private server
Ethical or not, justified or not, it's Blizzard intelectual property. They have legal right to do so. Even as someone who hates the state of WoD with its 6.1 SELFIE camera patch and 1year and a half of HFC I can understand why Blizzard did it.
They're a company, owned by fucking Activision. They need to make money. Loads of people who played on Nostalrius where getting their WoW fix without paying shekels to Blizzard.
That said, the most important question at this time is "will blizzard ever have official legacy servers?". I don't think so. The amount of bugfixing and optimization they have to do to the Naxxramas patch version of the game would be horrendous. Another thing is would be balancing and outright making some specs work. Ret, Balance and Prot Pally for example where complete dogshit. Shadow Priest wasn't a lot better either.
The moment Blizzard launched the servers, people would be expecting a clean, bug free, decently balanced and smooth experience because they would obviously be paying for it. And you know retards would start demanding unjustified shit like extra content that isn't expansions like TBC.
It would just be too much of a hassle for 0 gain and fracture the community even more.
Also enjoy some a shitty image I edited in Paint.
